Not everyone wants all electric automobiles

[Dana7360]

Not everyone in the world wants or can accept all electric automobiles. Why are certain factions in the US trying to force this all electric cars on the entire world?. It is not right or logical.

A lot of people drive more than 250 miles a day and cannot wait 6 hours to charge their so they continue their journey

most don't and that's where EVs make the most sense

Yep......but again.......there is no reason to force people into EVs......when people want them they will buy them....it is the forcing people that is the issue.

There will be an eventual transition and I think more people will have at least one EV and one gas powered car there is no way all automobile companies will phase out all gas powered cars as long as people still want them.

I would consider an EV as a daily driver. To me that makes the most sense and it will have the most impact on air quality than the occasional long trips people make with a gasoline powered car

The chevy Volt already does that.

We bought one for my ex in 2013. The range on his electric isn't that far but people don't really drive that far around town.

When the electric is drained, the gas engine takes over. So the car has a range of a few hundred miles. If you don't have time to recharge on a long trip, just keep filling the gas tank and keep driving.

The only time he filled the tank was when we went on a long drive but day to day, he very rarely used the gas.

It's small car for the kind of long trips I take.

Usually with a couple dogs and a lot of stuff

Yes that wouldn't work with a couple of dogs and a bunch of stuff.

My Prius has more room in it than the Volt.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

I think tidal power will always be rough to sustain especially with increased climate change. But we could do a lot more with geothermal if the govt really got behind it instead subsidizing oil, gas, and coal exploration. Iceland runs on it.

Norway is quite content with their tidal power. Along wind and hydro. The do a bit of Solar as well but are pretty far north but everything helps. They will be net zero in 2025.

 

[the other mike]

Norway is quite content with their tidal power. Along wind and hydro. The do a bit of Solar as well but are pretty far north but everything helps. They will be net zero in 2025.

All 250 Norwegians will save the planet.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Not everyone in the world wants or can accept all electric automobiles. Why are certain factions in the US trying to force this all electric cars on the entire world?. It is not right or logical.

A lot of people drive more than 250 miles a day and cannot wait 6 hours to charge their so they continue their journey

most don't and that's where EVs make the most sense

Yep......but again.......there is no reason to force people into EVs......when people want them they will buy them....it is the forcing people that is the issue.

There will be an eventual transition and I think more people will have at least one EV and one gas powered car there is no way all automobile companies will phase out all gas powered cars as long as people still want them.

I would consider an EV as a daily driver. To me that makes the most sense and it will have the most impact on air quality than the occasional long trips people make with a gasoline powered car

The chevy Volt already does that.

We bought one for my ex in 2013. The range on his electric isn't that far but people don't really drive that far around town.

When the electric is drained, the gas engine takes over. So the car has a range of a few hundred miles. If you don't have time to recharge on a long trip, just keep filling the gas tank and keep driving.

The only time he filled the tank was when we went on a long drive but day to day, he very rarely used the gas.

It's small car for the kind of long trips I take.

Usually with a couple dogs and a lot of stuff

Yes that wouldn't work with a couple of dogs and a bunch of stuff.

My Prius has more room in it than the Volt.

I was looking for a used car and a salesman actually got me to glance at a Prius. He was one hell of a salesman. I ended up kicking my own ass.

 

[sealybobo]

Part of our problem is no one

Its a cleaner energy for starters.

that has yet to be proven,,

Maybe in Qannon circles but the rest of the world already knows this.

how can you know the long term effects on something that hasnt ever existed before??

Electricity has been around a long time.

you cant be that stupid can you???

Youre the one claiming electric powered devices have not existed before. Are you stupid or just being paid to pretend you are?

where did I say that???

Post #6 you idiot.

Not everyone wants all electric automobiles

Not everyone in the world wants or can accept all electric automobiles. Why are certain factions in the US trying to force this all electric cars on the entire world?. It is not right or logical.

www.usmessageboard.com

you should go back and read it,, cause thats not what I said,,

What were you saying hasnt existed before? We were talking about electric powered cars.

correct,, and then you started talking about electricity and other devices,,,

You do realize an electric car is a electric powered device right?

You do realize that the only way to generate enough electric power is through coal and oil...right? And the mining needed to make those batteries is as dirty or dirtier than using coal, oil and natural gas....and the batteries are environmental disasters when they are old and no longer working.......

You guys are so dumb........you don't think anything through...

"You do realize that the only way to generate enough electric power is through coal and oil...right?"

False

that has yet to be proven,,

Only if youre a Qannon believer. Other people already know the facts about solar powered cars.

Complete guide to solar vehicles: how do solar-powered cars work?

Here's all you need to know about solar-powered cars and how they work.

interestingengineering.com

not really inspiring there bub..yeah they are working on it but arent close

Its hard to inspire conservatives. They have trouble visualizing anything past the next day.

USual BS...difference between inspire and force. Have posted on this site an EV i might buy if it lives up to its claims. Early Leaf buyers had nothing but regrets,

No one is forcing you. You can keep your fossil fuel burner long after electric cars become the norm. I said inspire. Early adopters of most technology have regrets. However, those with vision can use that to change the world and make it a less poisonous place to live.

Like I’m sorry I bought a beeper. Or 8 track. Or mp3.

You wanna buy my Betamax?

Probably is worth some money like old radios...I'd hang on to it if I were you. Non sequitor. Are you aware that US emissions per capita are at 1950 levels? Now think what life was like then compared to now and marvel at that accomplishment.

I don't have to look anything up. I can go by my own life. BlackSnow, Dirty Air, polluted water and more. The Industrial Revolution of 1895 for the US had gotten completely out of control. Oh, lt's add mud slides where there once were forests. And let's not forget the dead fish and the gunk in the rivers. Corporate America gone crazy. Capitalists destroy everything if allowed all for a short term profit. Capitalism without the desired amount of Socialism (regulations) is a disaster.

We've come a very long way and we have not corrected it all yet. We owe it to Mother Earth to do better. I am High Country. While most of our beliefs coincide with Conservatives, one thing that is the MOST conservative of all is that we don't own the land. We are stewards put in place by God.

There is no mother earth. Quit the psycho green babble and celebrate whats been done. No need for more onerous regulations with things heading quickly in the right direction.

I come from a time long before the New Green Deal when we were caretakers. We took what we needed and protected everything else. In my younger days, I put out more feed than the cattle could eat just to help feed the Deer and the Elk during hard winters. I took a tree, I planted a tree. I cleared a wooded area only to help another wooded area. When forest fires started, WE were the first ones there long before the BLM or the Forest Service and many times, would contain the fire before it got out of hand.

We don't live up there anymore but we still have to make sure that we continue to be the stewards. It has nothing to do with politics.

I remember this commercial when I was a kid. What did conservative kids think when they saw this commercial? Instead of getting the message, they probably had a problem with the indian in the commercial because their parents were raising them to be racists.

View attachment 451412

I was a kid too when that commercial came out.

It was a very effective ad.

I can't speak for all parents but my parents loved and agreed with the commercial.

Come to think of it, I have never encountered anyone who didn't like and agree with that ad.

I never considered that someone wouldn't like or agree with it.

I don’t think republican voters were such assholes when we were younger like they are today. Reagan was for going green.

 

[Blues Man]

Not everyone in the world wants or can accept all electric automobiles. Why are certain factions in the US trying to force this all electric cars on the entire world?. It is not right or logical.

A lot of people drive more than 250 miles a day and cannot wait 6 hours to charge their so they continue their journey

most don't and that's where EVs make the most sense

Yep......but again.......there is no reason to force people into EVs......when people want them they will buy them....it is the forcing people that is the issue.

There will be an eventual transition and I think more people will have at least one EV and one gas powered car there is no way all automobile companies will phase out all gas powered cars as long as people still want them.

I would consider an EV as a daily driver. To me that makes the most sense and it will have the most impact on air quality than the occasional long trips people make with a gasoline powered car

The chevy Volt already does that.

We bought one for my ex in 2013. The range on his electric isn't that far but people don't really drive that far around town.

When the electric is drained, the gas engine takes over. So the car has a range of a few hundred miles. If you don't have time to recharge on a long trip, just keep filling the gas tank and keep driving.

The only time he filled the tank was when we went on a long drive but day to day, he very rarely used the gas.

It's small car for the kind of long trips I take.

Usually with a couple dogs and a lot of stuff

Yes that wouldn't work with a couple of dogs and a bunch of stuff.

My Prius has more room in it than the Volt.

I was looking for a used car and a salesman actually got me to glance at a Prius. He was one hell of a salesman. I ended up kicking my own ass.

The Prius is just FUGLY

The remind of the old Chevy Citations

 

[sealybobo]

Part of our problem is no one

Its a cleaner energy for starters.

that has yet to be proven,,

Maybe in Qannon circles but the rest of the world already knows this.

how can you know the long term effects on something that hasnt ever existed before??

Electricity has been around a long time.

you cant be that stupid can you???

Youre the one claiming electric powered devices have not existed before. Are you stupid or just being paid to pretend you are?

where did I say that???

Post #6 you idiot.

Not everyone wants all electric automobiles

Not everyone in the world wants or can accept all electric automobiles. Why are certain factions in the US trying to force this all electric cars on the entire world?. It is not right or logical.

www.usmessageboard.com

you should go back and read it,, cause thats not what I said,,

What were you saying hasnt existed before? We were talking about electric powered cars.

correct,, and then you started talking about electricity and other devices,,,

You do realize an electric car is a electric powered device right?

You do realize that the only way to generate enough electric power is through coal and oil...right? And the mining needed to make those batteries is as dirty or dirtier than using coal, oil and natural gas....and the batteries are environmental disasters when they are old and no longer working.......

You guys are so dumb........you don't think anything through...

"You do realize that the only way to generate enough electric power is through coal and oil...right?"

False

that has yet to be proven,,

Only if youre a Qannon believer. Other people already know the facts about solar powered cars.

Complete guide to solar vehicles: how do solar-powered cars work?

Here's all you need to know about solar-powered cars and how they work.

interestingengineering.com

not really inspiring there bub..yeah they are working on it but arent close

Its hard to inspire conservatives. They have trouble visualizing anything past the next day.

USual BS...difference between inspire and force. Have posted on this site an EV i might buy if it lives up to its claims. Early Leaf buyers had nothing but regrets,

No one is forcing you. You can keep your fossil fuel burner long after electric cars become the norm. I said inspire. Early adopters of most technology have regrets. However, those with vision can use that to change the world and make it a less poisonous place to live.

Like I’m sorry I bought a beeper. Or 8 track. Or mp3.

You wanna buy my Betamax?

Probably is worth some money like old radios...I'd hang on to it if I were you. Non sequitor. Are you aware that US emissions per capita are at 1950 levels? Now think what life was like then compared to now and marvel at that accomplishment.

I don't have to look anything up. I can go by my own life. BlackSnow, Dirty Air, polluted water and more. The Industrial Revolution of 1895 for the US had gotten completely out of control. Oh, lt's add mud slides where there once were forests. And let's not forget the dead fish and the gunk in the rivers. Corporate America gone crazy. Capitalists destroy everything if allowed all for a short term profit. Capitalism without the desired amount of Socialism (regulations) is a disaster.

We've come a very long way and we have not corrected it all yet. We owe it to Mother Earth to do better. I am High Country. While most of our beliefs coincide with Conservatives, one thing that is the MOST conservative of all is that we don't own the land. We are stewards put in place by God.

There is no mother earth. Quit the psycho green babble and celebrate whats been done. No need for more onerous regulations with things heading quickly in the right direction.

I come from a time long before the New Green Deal when we were caretakers. We took what we needed and protected everything else. In my younger days, I put out more feed than the cattle could eat just to help feed the Deer and the Elk during hard winters. I took a tree, I planted a tree. I cleared a wooded area only to help another wooded area. When forest fires started, WE were the first ones there long before the BLM or the Forest Service and many times, would contain the fire before it got out of hand.

We don't live up there anymore but we still have to make sure that we continue to be the stewards. It has nothing to do with politics.

I remember this commercial when I was a kid. What did conservative kids think when they saw this commercial? Instead of getting the message, they probably had a problem with the indian in the commercial because their parents were raising them to be racists.

View attachment 451412

I was a kid too when that commercial came out.

It was a very effective ad.

I can't speak for all parents but my parents loved and agreed with the commercial.

Come to think of it, I have never encountered anyone who didn't like and agree with that ad.

I never considered that someone wouldn't like or agree with it.

I’m starting to see a pattern. Without evidence, they deny evolution and global warming. Without evidence they believe an election was stolen from them. 75% do. That’s a lot of brainwashed Americans.

This is why I hate religion. If you can get them to believe the Bible stories then it’s probably easy to get them to believe global warming is fake, the coronavirus is fake and the election was rigged. God told pat robertson trump would win re election. If you believe pat robertson then there’s no way trump could have lost. God said

 

[Asclepias]

Not everyone in the world wants or can accept all electric automobiles. Why are certain factions in the US trying to force this all electric cars on the entire world?. It is not right or logical.

A lot of people drive more than 250 miles a day and cannot wait 6 hours to charge their so they continue their journey

most don't and that's where EVs make the most sense

Yep......but again.......there is no reason to force people into EVs......when people want them they will buy them....it is the forcing people that is the issue.

There will be an eventual transition and I think more people will have at least one EV and one gas powered car there is no way all automobile companies will phase out all gas powered cars as long as people still want them.

I would consider an EV as a daily driver. To me that makes the most sense and it will have the most impact on air quality than the occasional long trips people make with a gasoline powered car

The chevy Volt already does that.

We bought one for my ex in 2013. The range on his electric isn't that far but people don't really drive that far around town.

When the electric is drained, the gas engine takes over. So the car has a range of a few hundred miles. If you don't have time to recharge on a long trip, just keep filling the gas tank and keep driving.

The only time he filled the tank was when we went on a long drive but day to day, he very rarely used the gas.

It's small car for the kind of long trips I take.

Usually with a couple dogs and a lot of stuff

Yes that wouldn't work with a couple of dogs and a bunch of stuff.

My Prius has more room in it than the Volt.

I was looking for a used car and a salesman actually got me to glance at a Prius. He was one hell of a salesman. I ended up kicking my own ass.

They take some getting used to. I realized I wasnt being neutral and objective about driving one and when I did it was no longer a big deal. The only thing that bothers me is when it seems to shut off when you stop. The first time it happened I was like WTF!

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Not everyone in the world wants or can accept all electric automobiles. Why are certain factions in the US trying to force this all electric cars on the entire world?. It is not right or logical.

A lot of people drive more than 250 miles a day and cannot wait 6 hours to charge their so they continue their journey

most don't and that's where EVs make the most sense

Yep......but again.......there is no reason to force people into EVs......when people want them they will buy them....it is the forcing people that is the issue.

There will be an eventual transition and I think more people will have at least one EV and one gas powered car there is no way all automobile companies will phase out all gas powered cars as long as people still want them.

I would consider an EV as a daily driver. To me that makes the most sense and it will have the most impact on air quality than the occasional long trips people make with a gasoline powered car

The chevy Volt already does that.

We bought one for my ex in 2013. The range on his electric isn't that far but people don't really drive that far around town.

When the electric is drained, the gas engine takes over. So the car has a range of a few hundred miles. If you don't have time to recharge on a long trip, just keep filling the gas tank and keep driving.

The only time he filled the tank was when we went on a long drive but day to day, he very rarely used the gas.

It's small car for the kind of long trips I take.

Usually with a couple dogs and a lot of stuff

Yes that wouldn't work with a couple of dogs and a bunch of stuff.

My Prius has more room in it than the Volt.

I was looking for a used car and a salesman actually got me to glance at a Prius. He was one hell of a salesman. I ended up kicking my own ass.

They take some getting used to. I realized I wasnt being neutral and objective about driving one and when I did it was no longer a big deal. The only thing that bothers me is when it seems to shut off when you stop. The first time it happened I was like WTF!

What bothers me most is the image. Next would be the fact you have to time it's accelleration with a calendar or the hour hand. Things have improved but me driving a prius? I think I would rather kick my own ass.

 

[Desperado]

Not everyone in the world wants or can accept all electric automobiles. Why are certain factions in the US trying to force this all electric cars on the entire world?. It is not right or logical.

A lot of people drive more than 250 miles a day and cannot wait 6 hours to charge their so they continue their journey

most don't and that's where EVs make the most sense

Yep......but again.......there is no reason to force people into EVs......when people want them they will buy them....it is the forcing people that is the issue.

There will be an eventual transition and I think more people will have at least one EV and one gas powered car there is no way all automobile companies will phase out all gas powered cars as long as people still want them.

I would consider an EV as a daily driver. To me that makes the most sense and it will have the most impact on air quality than the occasional long trips people make with a gasoline powered car

The chevy Volt already does that.

We bought one for my ex in 2013. The range on his electric isn't that far but people don't really drive that far around town.

When the electric is drained, the gas engine takes over. So the car has a range of a few hundred miles. If you don't have time to recharge on a long trip, just keep filling the gas tank and keep driving.

The only time he filled the tank was when we went on a long drive but day to day, he very rarely used the gas.

It's small car for the kind of long trips I take.

Usually with a couple dogs and a lot of stuff

Yes that wouldn't work with a couple of dogs and a bunch of stuff.

My Prius has more room in it than the Volt.

I was looking for a used car and a salesman actually got me to glance at a Prius. He was one hell of a salesman. I ended up kicking my own ass.

They take some getting used to. I realized I wasnt being neutral and objective about driving one and when I did it was no longer a big deal. The only thing that bothers me is when it seems to shut off when you stop. The first time it happened I was like WTF!

What doe that do to the AC? Does the compressor still turn?

 

[Asclepias]

Not everyone in the world wants or can accept all electric automobiles. Why are certain factions in the US trying to force this all electric cars on the entire world?. It is not right or logical.

A lot of people drive more than 250 miles a day and cannot wait 6 hours to charge their so they continue their journey

most don't and that's where EVs make the most sense

Yep......but again.......there is no reason to force people into EVs......when people want them they will buy them....it is the forcing people that is the issue.

There will be an eventual transition and I think more people will have at least one EV and one gas powered car there is no way all automobile companies will phase out all gas powered cars as long as people still want them.

I would consider an EV as a daily driver. To me that makes the most sense and it will have the most impact on air quality than the occasional long trips people make with a gasoline powered car

The chevy Volt already does that.

We bought one for my ex in 2013. The range on his electric isn't that far but people don't really drive that far around town.

When the electric is drained, the gas engine takes over. So the car has a range of a few hundred miles. If you don't have time to recharge on a long trip, just keep filling the gas tank and keep driving.

The only time he filled the tank was when we went on a long drive but day to day, he very rarely used the gas.

It's small car for the kind of long trips I take.

Usually with a couple dogs and a lot of stuff

Yes that wouldn't work with a couple of dogs and a bunch of stuff.

My Prius has more room in it than the Volt.

I was looking for a used car and a salesman actually got me to glance at a Prius. He was one hell of a salesman. I ended up kicking my own ass.

They take some getting used to. I realized I wasnt being neutral and objective about driving one and when I did it was no longer a big deal. The only thing that bothers me is when it seems to shut off when you stop. The first time it happened I was like WTF!

What doe that do to the AC? Does the compressor still turn?

Yeah the car still works like normal. Its just unnerving when it sounds like the engine shuts off

 

[Asclepias]

Not everyone in the world wants or can accept all electric automobiles. Why are certain factions in the US trying to force this all electric cars on the entire world?. It is not right or logical.

A lot of people drive more than 250 miles a day and cannot wait 6 hours to charge their so they continue their journey

most don't and that's where EVs make the most sense

Yep......but again.......there is no reason to force people into EVs......when people want them they will buy them....it is the forcing people that is the issue.

There will be an eventual transition and I think more people will have at least one EV and one gas powered car there is no way all automobile companies will phase out all gas powered cars as long as people still want them.

I would consider an EV as a daily driver. To me that makes the most sense and it will have the most impact on air quality than the occasional long trips people make with a gasoline powered car

The chevy Volt already does that.

We bought one for my ex in 2013. The range on his electric isn't that far but people don't really drive that far around town.

When the electric is drained, the gas engine takes over. So the car has a range of a few hundred miles. If you don't have time to recharge on a long trip, just keep filling the gas tank and keep driving.

The only time he filled the tank was when we went on a long drive but day to day, he very rarely used the gas.

It's small car for the kind of long trips I take.

Usually with a couple dogs and a lot of stuff

Yes that wouldn't work with a couple of dogs and a bunch of stuff.

My Prius has more room in it than the Volt.

I was looking for a used car and a salesman actually got me to glance at a Prius. He was one hell of a salesman. I ended up kicking my own ass.

They take some getting used to. I realized I wasnt being neutral and objective about driving one and when I did it was no longer a big deal. The only thing that bothers me is when it seems to shut off when you stop. The first time it happened I was like WTF!

What bothers me most is the image. Next would be the fact you have to time it's accelleration with a calendar or the hour hand. Things have improved but me driving a prius? I think I would rather kick my own ass.

I thought about getting one but I hate buying new cars no matter what. I have never been into the image thing so it doesnt matter to me. As long as it gets me from point A to point B. I havent noticed any difference in the acceleration but then I dont drive race cars either.

 

[Dana7360]

Not everyone in the world wants or can accept all electric automobiles. Why are certain factions in the US trying to force this all electric cars on the entire world?. It is not right or logical.

A lot of people drive more than 250 miles a day and cannot wait 6 hours to charge their so they continue their journey

most don't and that's where EVs make the most sense

Yep......but again.......there is no reason to force people into EVs......when people want them they will buy them....it is the forcing people that is the issue.

There will be an eventual transition and I think more people will have at least one EV and one gas powered car there is no way all automobile companies will phase out all gas powered cars as long as people still want them.

I would consider an EV as a daily driver. To me that makes the most sense and it will have the most impact on air quality than the occasional long trips people make with a gasoline powered car

The chevy Volt already does that.

We bought one for my ex in 2013. The range on his electric isn't that far but people don't really drive that far around town.

When the electric is drained, the gas engine takes over. So the car has a range of a few hundred miles. If you don't have time to recharge on a long trip, just keep filling the gas tank and keep driving.

The only time he filled the tank was when we went on a long drive but day to day, he very rarely used the gas.

It's small car for the kind of long trips I take.

Usually with a couple dogs and a lot of stuff

Yes that wouldn't work with a couple of dogs and a bunch of stuff.

My Prius has more room in it than the Volt.

I was looking for a used car and a salesman actually got me to glance at a Prius. He was one hell of a salesman. I ended up kicking my own ass.

The first Prius I bought was in 2001. At that time I made the decision to never buy another regular gas car again.

It's a great car. The one I'm driving now is my 4th hybrid car.

 

[Dana7360]

Part of our problem is no one

Its a cleaner energy for starters.

that has yet to be proven,,

Maybe in Qannon circles but the rest of the world already knows this.

how can you know the long term effects on something that hasnt ever existed before??

Electricity has been around a long time.

you cant be that stupid can you???

Youre the one claiming electric powered devices have not existed before. Are you stupid or just being paid to pretend you are?

where did I say that???

Post #6 you idiot.

Not everyone wants all electric automobiles

Not everyone in the world wants or can accept all electric automobiles. Why are certain factions in the US trying to force this all electric cars on the entire world?. It is not right or logical.

www.usmessageboard.com

you should go back and read it,, cause thats not what I said,,

What were you saying hasnt existed before? We were talking about electric powered cars.

correct,, and then you started talking about electricity and other devices,,,

You do realize an electric car is a electric powered device right?

You do realize that the only way to generate enough electric power is through coal and oil...right? And the mining needed to make those batteries is as dirty or dirtier than using coal, oil and natural gas....and the batteries are environmental disasters when they are old and no longer working.......

You guys are so dumb........you don't think anything through...

"You do realize that the only way to generate enough electric power is through coal and oil...right?"

False

that has yet to be proven,,

Only if youre a Qannon believer. Other people already know the facts about solar powered cars.

Complete guide to solar vehicles: how do solar-powered cars work?

Here's all you need to know about solar-powered cars and how they work.

interestingengineering.com

not really inspiring there bub..yeah they are working on it but arent close

Its hard to inspire conservatives. They have trouble visualizing anything past the next day.

USual BS...difference between inspire and force. Have posted on this site an EV i might buy if it lives up to its claims. Early Leaf buyers had nothing but regrets,

No one is forcing you. You can keep your fossil fuel burner long after electric cars become the norm. I said inspire. Early adopters of most technology have regrets. However, those with vision can use that to change the world and make it a less poisonous place to live.

Like I’m sorry I bought a beeper. Or 8 track. Or mp3.

You wanna buy my Betamax?

Probably is worth some money like old radios...I'd hang on to it if I were you. Non sequitor. Are you aware that US emissions per capita are at 1950 levels? Now think what life was like then compared to now and marvel at that accomplishment.

I don't have to look anything up. I can go by my own life. BlackSnow, Dirty Air, polluted water and more. The Industrial Revolution of 1895 for the US had gotten completely out of control. Oh, lt's add mud slides where there once were forests. And let's not forget the dead fish and the gunk in the rivers. Corporate America gone crazy. Capitalists destroy everything if allowed all for a short term profit. Capitalism without the desired amount of Socialism (regulations) is a disaster.

We've come a very long way and we have not corrected it all yet. We owe it to Mother Earth to do better. I am High Country. While most of our beliefs coincide with Conservatives, one thing that is the MOST conservative of all is that we don't own the land. We are stewards put in place by God.

There is no mother earth. Quit the psycho green babble and celebrate whats been done. No need for more onerous regulations with things heading quickly in the right direction.

I come from a time long before the New Green Deal when we were caretakers. We took what we needed and protected everything else. In my younger days, I put out more feed than the cattle could eat just to help feed the Deer and the Elk during hard winters. I took a tree, I planted a tree. I cleared a wooded area only to help another wooded area. When forest fires started, WE were the first ones there long before the BLM or the Forest Service and many times, would contain the fire before it got out of hand.

We don't live up there anymore but we still have to make sure that we continue to be the stewards. It has nothing to do with politics.

I remember this commercial when I was a kid. What did conservative kids think when they saw this commercial? Instead of getting the message, they probably had a problem with the indian in the commercial because their parents were raising them to be racists.

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I was a kid too when that commercial came out.

It was a very effective ad.

I can't speak for all parents but my parents loved and agreed with the commercial.

Come to think of it, I have never encountered anyone who didn't like and agree with that ad.

I never considered that someone wouldn't like or agree with it.

I don’t think republican voters were such assholes when we were younger like they are today. Reagan was for going green.

I don't recall reagan wanting to go green.

I do remember reagan removing the solar panels on the White House that Jimmy Carter had installed.

I remember him reversing other environmental policies of Jimmy Carter.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Without evidence, they deny evolution and global warming.

It's true, evidence is lacking for AGW.

 

[Dana7360]

Not everyone in the world wants or can accept all electric automobiles. Why are certain factions in the US trying to force this all electric cars on the entire world?. It is not right or logical.

A lot of people drive more than 250 miles a day and cannot wait 6 hours to charge their so they continue their journey

most don't and that's where EVs make the most sense

Yep......but again.......there is no reason to force people into EVs......when people want them they will buy them....it is the forcing people that is the issue.

There will be an eventual transition and I think more people will have at least one EV and one gas powered car there is no way all automobile companies will phase out all gas powered cars as long as people still want them.

I would consider an EV as a daily driver. To me that makes the most sense and it will have the most impact on air quality than the occasional long trips people make with a gasoline powered car

The chevy Volt already does that.

We bought one for my ex in 2013. The range on his electric isn't that far but people don't really drive that far around town.

When the electric is drained, the gas engine takes over. So the car has a range of a few hundred miles. If you don't have time to recharge on a long trip, just keep filling the gas tank and keep driving.

The only time he filled the tank was when we went on a long drive but day to day, he very rarely used the gas.

It's small car for the kind of long trips I take.

Usually with a couple dogs and a lot of stuff

Yes that wouldn't work with a couple of dogs and a bunch of stuff.

My Prius has more room in it than the Volt.

I was looking for a used car and a salesman actually got me to glance at a Prius. He was one hell of a salesman. I ended up kicking my own ass.

They take some getting used to. I realized I wasnt being neutral and objective about driving one and when I did it was no longer a big deal. The only thing that bothers me is when it seems to shut off when you stop. The first time it happened I was like WTF!

That is the gas engine turning off.

I love that feature.

What took me a while to get used to was it not making much sound when driving it and that stupid beep when you're in reverse. That beep was on the 2001. They added it later.

 

[Dana7360]

Part of our problem is no one

Its a cleaner energy for starters.

that has yet to be proven,,

Maybe in Qannon circles but the rest of the world already knows this.

how can you know the long term effects on something that hasnt ever existed before??

Electricity has been around a long time.

you cant be that stupid can you???

Youre the one claiming electric powered devices have not existed before. Are you stupid or just being paid to pretend you are?

where did I say that???

Post #6 you idiot.

Not everyone wants all electric automobiles

Not everyone in the world wants or can accept all electric automobiles. Why are certain factions in the US trying to force this all electric cars on the entire world?. It is not right or logical.

www.usmessageboard.com

you should go back and read it,, cause thats not what I said,,

What were you saying hasnt existed before? We were talking about electric powered cars.

correct,, and then you started talking about electricity and other devices,,,

You do realize an electric car is a electric powered device right?

You do realize that the only way to generate enough electric power is through coal and oil...right? And the mining needed to make those batteries is as dirty or dirtier than using coal, oil and natural gas....and the batteries are environmental disasters when they are old and no longer working.......

You guys are so dumb........you don't think anything through...

"You do realize that the only way to generate enough electric power is through coal and oil...right?"

False

that has yet to be proven,,

Only if youre a Qannon believer. Other people already know the facts about solar powered cars.

Complete guide to solar vehicles: how do solar-powered cars work?

Here's all you need to know about solar-powered cars and how they work.

interestingengineering.com

not really inspiring there bub..yeah they are working on it but arent close

Its hard to inspire conservatives. They have trouble visualizing anything past the next day.

USual BS...difference between inspire and force. Have posted on this site an EV i might buy if it lives up to its claims. Early Leaf buyers had nothing but regrets,

No one is forcing you. You can keep your fossil fuel burner long after electric cars become the norm. I said inspire. Early adopters of most technology have regrets. However, those with vision can use that to change the world and make it a less poisonous place to live.

Like I’m sorry I bought a beeper. Or 8 track. Or mp3.

You wanna buy my Betamax?

Probably is worth some money like old radios...I'd hang on to it if I were you. Non sequitor. Are you aware that US emissions per capita are at 1950 levels? Now think what life was like then compared to now and marvel at that accomplishment.

I don't have to look anything up. I can go by my own life. BlackSnow, Dirty Air, polluted water and more. The Industrial Revolution of 1895 for the US had gotten completely out of control. Oh, lt's add mud slides where there once were forests. And let's not forget the dead fish and the gunk in the rivers. Corporate America gone crazy. Capitalists destroy everything if allowed all for a short term profit. Capitalism without the desired amount of Socialism (regulations) is a disaster.

We've come a very long way and we have not corrected it all yet. We owe it to Mother Earth to do better. I am High Country. While most of our beliefs coincide with Conservatives, one thing that is the MOST conservative of all is that we don't own the land. We are stewards put in place by God.

There is no mother earth. Quit the psycho green babble and celebrate whats been done. No need for more onerous regulations with things heading quickly in the right direction.

I come from a time long before the New Green Deal when we were caretakers. We took what we needed and protected everything else. In my younger days, I put out more feed than the cattle could eat just to help feed the Deer and the Elk during hard winters. I took a tree, I planted a tree. I cleared a wooded area only to help another wooded area. When forest fires started, WE were the first ones there long before the BLM or the Forest Service and many times, would contain the fire before it got out of hand.

We don't live up there anymore but we still have to make sure that we continue to be the stewards. It has nothing to do with politics.

I remember this commercial when I was a kid. What did conservative kids think when they saw this commercial? Instead of getting the message, they probably had a problem with the indian in the commercial because their parents were raising them to be racists.

View attachment 451412

I was a kid too when that commercial came out.

It was a very effective ad.

I can't speak for all parents but my parents loved and agreed with the commercial.

Come to think of it, I have never encountered anyone who didn't like and agree with that ad.

I never considered that someone wouldn't like or agree with it.

I’m starting to see a pattern. Without evidence, they deny evolution and global warming. Without evidence they believe an election was stolen from them. 75% do. That’s a lot of brainwashed Americans.

This is why I hate religion. If you can get them to believe the Bible stories then it’s probably easy to get them to believe global warming is fake, the coronavirus is fake and the election was rigged. God told pat robertson trump would win re election. If you believe pat robertson then there’s no way trump could have lost. God said

A lot of harm, destruction and suffering have been caused to people by people who misuse religion.

I don't think it's the religion as much as very bad people abusing and misusing religion to brainwash, control and lie to people.

 

[Dana7360]

Not everyone in the world wants or can accept all electric automobiles. Why are certain factions in the US trying to force this all electric cars on the entire world?. It is not right or logical.

A lot of people drive more than 250 miles a day and cannot wait 6 hours to charge their so they continue their journey

most don't and that's where EVs make the most sense

Yep......but again.......there is no reason to force people into EVs......when people want them they will buy them....it is the forcing people that is the issue.

There will be an eventual transition and I think more people will have at least one EV and one gas powered car there is no way all automobile companies will phase out all gas powered cars as long as people still want them.

I would consider an EV as a daily driver. To me that makes the most sense and it will have the most impact on air quality than the occasional long trips people make with a gasoline powered car

The chevy Volt already does that.

We bought one for my ex in 2013. The range on his electric isn't that far but people don't really drive that far around town.

When the electric is drained, the gas engine takes over. So the car has a range of a few hundred miles. If you don't have time to recharge on a long trip, just keep filling the gas tank and keep driving.

The only time he filled the tank was when we went on a long drive but day to day, he very rarely used the gas.

It's small car for the kind of long trips I take.

Usually with a couple dogs and a lot of stuff

Yes that wouldn't work with a couple of dogs and a bunch of stuff.

My Prius has more room in it than the Volt.

I was looking for a used car and a salesman actually got me to glance at a Prius. He was one hell of a salesman. I ended up kicking my own ass.

They take some getting used to. I realized I wasnt being neutral and objective about driving one and when I did it was no longer a big deal. The only thing that bothers me is when it seems to shut off when you stop. The first time it happened I was like WTF!

What bothers me most is the image. Next would be the fact you have to time it's accelleration with a calendar or the hour hand. Things have improved but me driving a prius? I think I would rather kick my own ass.

The Prius had that problem on the first ones.

The 2011 I had and the 2017 I have now don't have that hesitation when you put your foot on the gas.

 

[Dana7360]

Not everyone in the world wants or can accept all electric automobiles. Why are certain factions in the US trying to force this all electric cars on the entire world?. It is not right or logical.

A lot of people drive more than 250 miles a day and cannot wait 6 hours to charge their so they continue their journey

most don't and that's where EVs make the most sense

Yep......but again.......there is no reason to force people into EVs......when people want them they will buy them....it is the forcing people that is the issue.

There will be an eventual transition and I think more people will have at least one EV and one gas powered car there is no way all automobile companies will phase out all gas powered cars as long as people still want them.

I would consider an EV as a daily driver. To me that makes the most sense and it will have the most impact on air quality than the occasional long trips people make with a gasoline powered car

The chevy Volt already does that.

We bought one for my ex in 2013. The range on his electric isn't that far but people don't really drive that far around town.

When the electric is drained, the gas engine takes over. So the car has a range of a few hundred miles. If you don't have time to recharge on a long trip, just keep filling the gas tank and keep driving.

The only time he filled the tank was when we went on a long drive but day to day, he very rarely used the gas.

It's small car for the kind of long trips I take.

Usually with a couple dogs and a lot of stuff

Yes that wouldn't work with a couple of dogs and a bunch of stuff.

My Prius has more room in it than the Volt.

I was looking for a used car and a salesman actually got me to glance at a Prius. He was one hell of a salesman. I ended up kicking my own ass.

They take some getting used to. I realized I wasnt being neutral and objective about driving one and when I did it was no longer a big deal. The only thing that bothers me is when it seems to shut off when you stop. The first time it happened I was like WTF!

What bothers me most is the image. Next would be the fact you have to time it's accelleration with a calendar or the hour hand. Things have improved but me driving a prius? I think I would rather kick my own ass.

I thought about getting one but I hate buying new cars no matter what. I have never been into the image thing so it doesnt matter to me. As long as it gets me from point A to point B. I havent noticed any difference in the acceleration but then I dont drive race cars either.

I'm with you on that.

The only thing I'm looking for in a vehicle is for it to get me from point A to point B safely and without breaking down.

I don't care if people don't like the way my car looks. They aren't driving it so they don't have to look at it if they don't like it.

I liked all the hybrid cars I have bought through the years.

What I like best, I'm not harming the environment the same way a regular gas car does.

 

[BlackSand]

Yep, Larry mo and curly there have no argument other than the child that doesn't like his vegetables. But mommy I don't want em. Thats fine natural selection has a tendency to rid us of those types over time. Hopefully for them they will be those people that can afford the classic car or truck over time. I have my doubts though the could not come up with one verifiable fact to support any of their arguments between them. Hillarious

You just don't understand the argument because you are trying to argue something different.

No matter how much you like electric vehicles ...
No matter how many links you can post to their specifications ...
No matter how superior you may think they are in any way ...
That's not the argument I was was making.

It's really a lot more simple than a whole bunch of idealistic bullshit.
I simply stated I have over $150k worth of vehicles sitting in the driveway that work just fine and do everything I need them to do.

I don't need a Tesla truck or car.
Until you plan on paying me for the vehicles I have ...
That I don't have a problem using, do everything I need them to do, and that are already paid for ...
Or plan on buying me an electric vehicle when there is one available that can suit my needs and desires ...

... You can go pound sand you fucking nit-wit ...

Edit:
Dang ... I even owned a Prius until I decided to take it on a trip to Red River, New Mexico.
and thought I was going to have to Fred Flintstone that sorry piece of crap up the mountain.

I'm not saying that might not have been the case because I had been blowing across West Texas at 80 mph non-stop before getting to New Mexico ...
But the Dodge handled it fine the next time I took the trip under the same conditions.

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