Nord Stream Pipeline Explosion

[toobfreak]

Tucker is a HUGE fan of Vlad.

What is your evidence of that?

 

[beagle9]

What is your evidence of that?

Anyone not a fan of the left has got to be, that's his evidence.

 

[Ringo]

Sorry, Ivan, but Russia blew up the fucking pipeline. The end.

That's the problem. The Western population has degraded catastrophically.
When the Americans brought Pershings to Europe in the 1980s, Europe responded with thousands of protest demonstrations, simply out of a sense of self-preservation.
Now, after decades of degenerate liberal propaganda, the brains of the western population are damaged. They were even convinced, that sexual perversions are a matter of pride, that is, the primordial biological human foundations have been violated. Now, millions of morons are being told that it is profitable for Russia to blow up a gas pipeline that brings her money and idiots believe.
I am sure there will be enough idiots, who will demand to launch a nuclear strike on Russia first... Worthless cretins.

 

[surada]

That's the problem. The Western population has degraded catastrophically.
When the Americans brought Pershings to Europe in the 1980s, Europe responded with thousands of protest demonstrations, simply out of a sense of self-preservation.
Now, after decades of degenerate liberal propaganda, the brains of the western population are damaged. They were even convinced, that sexual perversions are a matter of pride, that is, the primordial biological human foundations have been violated. Now, millions of morons are being told that it is profitable for Russia to blow up a gas pipeline that brings her money and idiots believe.
I am sure there will be enough idiots, who will demand to launch a nuclear strike on Russia first... Worthless cretins.

The Nordstreams can be repaired.

Nord Stream repair may take at least six months, says lawmaker

Four Nord Stream gas pipeline leaks have been uncovered, with the most recent one being pinpointed by Sweden’s coast guard

tass.com

 

[Ringo]

Secretary of State Tony Blinken on the Nord Stream explosions: "In the end, this is an incredible opportunity to get rid of dependence on Russian energy resources once and for all"

Any questions? Not from idiots, of course

 

[Stann]

That's the problem. The Western population has degraded catastrophically.
When the Americans brought Pershings to Europe in the 1980s, Europe responded with thousands of protest demonstrations, simply out of a sense of self-preservation.
Now, after decades of degenerate liberal propaganda, the brains of the western population are damaged. They were even convinced, that sexual perversions are a matter of pride, that is, the primordial biological human foundations have been violated. Now, millions of morons are being told that it is profitable for Russia to blow up a gas pipeline that brings her money and idiots believe.
I am sure there will be enough idiots, who will demand to launch a nuclear strike on Russia first... Worthless cretins.

Russia has acted deviously and ruthlessly through all of this. I would not put it past them to blow up their own pipeline ( easily repairable ) in a further attempt to create chaos and distrust among those in the West. Fortunately it is not working. Russia is digging itself into a deeper and deeper hole.

 

[MagicMike]

What is your evidence of that?

His words.

But not that you are going to accept his actual words as proof of anything.
Next you will deny that what he said is what he meant.
Kinda like you do with Trump.
It also helps to attack the source doing the reporting.
In this case Rolling Stone.
Ignore the fact that the same reporting can be found in nearly every other CREDIBLE news outlet is reporting the same thing.

There used to be a time when voicing sympathy and suppoet for America's enemies was considered treasonous.
Not anymore. This is how low MAGAt Trumptards have moved the bar.

 

[MagicMike]

His words.

But not that you are going to accept his actual words as proof of anything.
Next you will deny that what he said is what he meant.
Kinda like you do with Trump.
It also helps to attack the source doing the reporting.
In this case Rolling Stone.
Ignore the fact that the same reporting can be found in nearly every other CREDIBLE news outlet is reporting the same thing.

There used to be a time when voicing sympathy and suppoet for America's enemies was considered treasonous.
Not anymore. This is how low MAGAt Trumptards have moved the bar.

Russian State TV Can't Get Enough of Putin Sycophant Tucker Carlson

Russian state-controlled media have broadcast clips from Tucker Carlson's Fox News show where the host pushes anti-Ukraine narratives.

www.rollingstone.com

 

[Stann]

His words.

But not that you are going to accept his actual words as proof of anything.
Next you will deny that what he said is what he meant.
Kinda like you do with Trump.
It also helps to attack the source doing the reporting.
In this case Rolling Stone.
Ignore the fact that the same reporting can be found in nearly every other CREDIBLE news outlet is reporting the same thing.

There used to be a time when voicing sympathy and suppoet for America's enemies was considered treasonous.
Not anymore. This is how low MAGAt Trumptards have moved the bar.

His words are worthless. We're in his troops mobilize on the border of the Ukraine he said they were just exercises he said they were not going to invade the Ukraine. So much for his words.

 

[Rambunctious]

Who ever did this is an idiot... and who is the biggest idiot on the worlds stage today?.....

 

[toobfreak]

His words.

So, no actual independent evidence at all since any other time all you claim is that Trump lies and you cannot believe anything he says.

 

[evenflow1969]

The Russian police have just released this sketch of the suspect.

View attachment 702416

Oh, shit I didn't think anyone saw me. Lol

 

[evenflow1969]

Nord stream AG: Three strands of the Nord Stream gas pipeline system have been damaged Nord Stream AG: it is not yet possible to estimate when the gas transportation infrastructure will be restored Russian gas supplies via Nord Stream have been completely halted.
Danish Energy Agency puts the energy sector on orange alert, the second highest level, amid the multiple Nord Stream gas leaks.
BT: The Danish Energy Agency says that people should stay far away from the Nord Stream gas leaks: "It's life-threatening"

— Danish Newspaper Berlingske says that Danish Royal Air Force F-16s aircrafts spotted that the the sea was "bubbling" over the southeast of Bornholm island Professor Simon Pedersen "There is a risk of an massive explosion at the leak area"

German goverment "Our imagination no longer yields a scenario that is not a targeted attack." Such a suspected attack has to be carried out with special forces, for example, navy divers, or a submarine, according to the German government's assessment.
Leak hapenned on a "very strange place",miraculously ended up in international waters...Near and around Denmark, but not inside.

There is an unprecedented situation on the Nord Stream that requires investigation, the situation affects the energy security of an entire continent -Kremlin
The Kremlin does not exclude the possibility that a diversion occurred on the Nord Stream and Nord Stream-2 gas pipelines Now it is impossible to exclude any option until the conclusions of experts have appeared,- Dmitry Peskov stressed.

Sweden has limited the altitude of flights over the "Nord Stream" The Swedish Maritime Administration-"Appropriate warnings were sent to everyone," Recommended that the aircraft fly at an altitude of at least 1000 meters in connection with the emergency on the Nord Stream.
Danish prime minister Mette Frederiksen suspects the leaks in the Nord Stream pipelines may be caused by sabotage. "It is hard to imagine that it is accidental. We cannot rule out sabotage, but it is too early to conclude,"
Polish Prime-Minister Morawiecki: Today we faced an act of sabotage, we don't know all the details of what happened, but we see clearly that it's an act of sabotage, related to the next step of escalation of the situation in Ukraine,"

Bloomberg: Germany suspects damage to Nord Stream pipeline is the result of sabotage.

Germany Suspects Sabotage Hit Russia’s Nord Stream Pipelines

Germany suspects the Nord Stream gas pipeline system was damaged by an act of sabotage, in what would amount to a major escalation in the standoff between Russia and Europe.

www.bloomberg.com

The German government does not rule out that the reason for the pressure drop in the Nord Stream pipelines could be a deliberate sabotage, the purpose of which was to create uncertainty in the European gas markets, the Spiegel newspaper reported, citing its own source.

It all comets together as we say all the time...Wall Street doesn't like long-term gas contracts between Russia end EU countires so it can make money with speculations with gas prices, because with long-term contracts there could be no price speculations...That is the main reason


November 14, 2018 17:39
Washington has once again promised to stop the Russian gas transportation project Nord Stream-2. US Ambassador to the EU Gordon Sondland said on November 13 that his country has the means to slow down the construction of the pipeline. The Ambassador explained this position with concern for the Europeans themselves and their security.

"When Europeans are vulnerable, the United States also becomes vulnerable. We don't want the gas to turn off in winter because of the crisis. If the EU does not understand this logic, then the US president can use many other tools that we have at our disposal, I will not list them now to stop this project," Sondland said.

The ambassador did not specify which instruments he was talking about, but added that there were many of them and that the United States had not used all of them yet, but could do so in the future.

However, it may not be necessary to resort to extreme measures, since, according to the diplomat, "more and more Europeans believe that dependence on Russian gas will be the wrong decision."

Lol, hey Ringo. How long did that annexation of Lyman last? Seems as though Russia needs to close their borders. Lol, not to stop people from getting in but to stop Russians from leaving. Good stuff.

 

[Stann]

When he said that there wouldn't be a Nordstream 2 pipeline, he was talking about blocking it with sanctions, and getting other countries to block it as well. Not blow it up.

EXPLAINER: What's Russia's Nord Stream 2 pipeline to Europe?

U.S. President Joe Biden has targeted Russia's Nord Stream 2 natural gas pipeline as he tries to deter the Kremlin from a feared invasion of Ukraine.

apnews.com

FRANKFURT, Germany (AP) — U.S. President Joe Biden has threatened to block the Nord Stream 2 natural gas pipeline if Russia invades Ukraine.

The undersea pipeline directly links Russian gas to Europe via Germany and is complete but not yet operating. It has become a major target as Western governments try to deter a Russian attack on its neighbor.

In the past, it has been a source of tension between the U.S., which opposed the project, and Germany. Chancellor Olaf Scholz said all options were on the table but avoided mentioning Nord Stream 2 specifically at a news conference with Biden in Washington.

If Russian tanks roll into Ukraine, “there will be no longer a Nord Stream 2,” Biden said Monday. Scholz stressed the need to keep some ambiguity about sanctions to press Russia to deescalate.

And, here's the reason he's against it, as well as why he wants to block it...................

WHY IS BIDEN AGAINST IT?

The U.S., European NATO allies such as Poland, and Ukraine have opposed the project going back before the Biden administration. They said it gives Russia the possibility of using gas as a geopolitical weapon.

He already had sanctions against the pipeline, but lifted them if Germany would help against Russia......................

Biden waived sanctions against the pipeline’s operator when it was almost complete in return for an agreement from Germany to take action against Russia if it used gas as a weapon or attacks Ukraine. But the U.S. still thinks Nord Stream 2 is a bad idea.

No..............Biden doesn't want to blow it up. However, based on what Russia has done, he wants to reimpose the sanctions on it, which is a lot different than blowing it up.

It helps to find out the whole story, rather than just cherry pick crap in the hopes of supporting a conspiracy theory. Cherry picking stuff is how the 9/11 conspiracy theorists or "truthers" as they liked to be called were able to convince a few people that 9/11 was an inside job orchestrated by the U.S. government.

The US would lose credibility if they did it. Obviously the Russians did this to try to undermines the coalition in the West against Russia's invasion of the Ukraine. I actually believe it's increased our resolve. putin's diabolical treachery shows its ugly face once more. He's losing credibility within his own Nation. I don't think it'll be long before they execute him or he meets an untimely demise somehow. That's how things seem to work in Russia.

 

[Rigby5]

The Nordstreams can be repaired.

Nord Stream repair may take at least six months, says lawmaker

Four Nord Stream gas pipeline leaks have been uncovered, with the most recent one being pinpointed by Sweden’s coast guard

tass.com

No point in trying to repair it since it can and likely will be blown up again.
The problem is the US economic sanctions need to get to the World Court and the US fined for the criminal act.

 

[Rigby5]

Secretary of State Tony Blinken on the Nord Stream explosions: "In the end, this is an incredible opportunity to get rid of dependence on Russian energy resources once and for all"

Any questions? Not from idiots, of course

Wrong.
The ONLY pipeline is from Russia.
There is no other pipeline, so there is no other means of "getting rid of dependence on Russian energy resources".

You can use pressurized shipping containers, but they cost over twice as much as a pipeline.
Takes over a week for delivery by ship, as compared to just a few hours by pipeline.

 

[Rigby5]

Russia has acted deviously and ruthlessly through all of this. I would not put it past them to blow up their own pipeline ( easily repairable ) in a further attempt to create chaos and distrust among those in the West. Fortunately it is not working. Russia is digging itself into a deeper and deeper hole.

How has Russia been at all "devious" or "ruthless"?
The polish government of Kyiv has been murdering ethnic Russians for almost a decade, stealing billions in gas and oil, and now trying to put NATO nukes on Russia's border.
By rights, Russia should just nuke Kyiv.
It is Kyiv who committed all the illegal acts of war.

Not only that, but clearly Russia could not possibly gain by blowing up their own pipeline?
They need the money.
So what would blowing up their means of income gain them?

 

[Rigby5]

The US would lose credibility if they did it. Obviously the Russians did this to try to undermines the coalition in the West against Russia's invasion of the Ukraine. I actually believe it's increased our resolve. putin's diabolical treachery shows its ugly face once more. He's losing credibility within his own Nation. I don't think it'll be long before they execute him or he meets an untimely demise somehow. That's how things seem to work in Russia.

How is that at all logical?
Whether or not other countries like which side is totally irrelevant, except for if they do business with Russia or not.
And with the pipeline blown up, it no longer matters.
Europe can no longer do business with Russia now, even if they wanted to.
So it would be the stupidest plan in the world, if Russia had blown it up.

But back to the real world, Putin is totally in the right on this one.
The Ukraine committed numerous illegal and unethical acts of war, like stealing oil, murdering those who spoke Russian instead of Polish, and trying to put NATO nukes on Russia's border.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

How is that at all logical?
Whether or not other countries like which side is totally irrelevant, except for if they do business with Russia or not.
And with the pipeline blown up, it no longer matters.
Europe can no longer do business with Russia now, even if they wanted to.
So it would be the stupidest plan in the world, if Russia had blown it up.

But back to the real world, Putin is totally in the right on this one.
The Ukraine committed numerous illegal and unethical acts of war, like stealing oil, murdering those who spoke Russian instead of Polish, and trying to put NATO nukes on Russia's border.

That is a bald-faced lie and you swallowed it whole. Ukraine NEVER advocated or ask for missiles and in fact they said they would not allow even NATO troops on their soil. And there is no evidence of widespread murder by anyone in the Ukrainian Government.

 

[badger2]

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