No worries for Mark Kelly. Eventually, he will regain his full pension (and his money back)

[M14 Shooter]

Because of the first amendment, Mark Kelly will prevail in court after asking a judge to stop these retaliatory reduced payments.
He would probably get six months approximately of reduced pay before a court orders a stop to the illegal retaliation.

You're talking out your ass.
As usual.

 

[Robert W]

Capt. Kelley didn't tell others to disobey orders, he reminded them they don't have to obey ILLEGAL orders. Why did you leave the ILLEGAL part out.

How about MAJ Hegseth (U.S. Army) telling soldiers they don't have to follow illegal orders?

WW
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When I was in the Army, every soldier had the same lectures. We were told not to follow illegal orders. I don't recall if we were given examples.

For an officer, even on paid retirement to instruct as did Kelly, implies illegal orders were given out. Well, he has been censured so we will see what his next act is.

 

[WorldWatcher]

When I was in the Army, every soldier had the same lectures. We were told not to follow illegal orders. I don't recall if we were given examples.

For an officer, even on paid retirement to instruct as did Kelly, implies illegal orders were given out. Well, he has been censured so we will see what his next act is.

Translation:

Hegseth can do it as an Army Major subject to the UCMJ.

Kelly can't do it as a retirement Navy Captain.


LOL

WW

 

[Robert W]

You do realize that conservatives in general hate Trump? He's not a conservative.
There are decent conservatives and always have been. That they disagree with me doesn't make them horrible people. But those smart and rational and decent conservatives hate Trump.
Also, why is it an issue with you what name he chooses. It makes you seem obsessed.

I vote only for republicans. We do not lock step agree. But we vote for the party member knowing our other option delivers agony.

Notice you never read Democrats using labels on themselves. Even the word liberal is so vague it is useless.

Are democrats liberal as to Trumps presidency?

 

[Robert W]

Translation:

Hegseth can do it as an Army Major subject to the UCMJ.

Kelly can't do it as a retirement Navy Captain.


LOL

WW

Were any illegal orders issued for Kelly to worry over? Who was he discussing?

 

[Company 13]

Well, yes he was but has the Navy announced he was? There are processes to follow for him to actually get censured.
Reduction in retired grade
A censure letter can have significant effects on retired officers, particularly those who have already retired from active duty. The letter can lead to a reduction in retired grade, which may result in a corresponding reduction in retired pay. This is a direct consequence of the censure letter under the law, as it is tied to the officer's service in grade.
The process for reducing a retired officer's grade is under 10 U.S. Code § 1370 (f), which allows for a reduction in retirement grade under certain conditions. While the letter itself is purely symbolic and does not have actual consequences for the officer's career, it can serve as a warning to other retired service members and can have long-term effects on future career opportunities.
Retired officers, especially those who have served satisfactorily on active duty, may still be considered for retirement pay based on their service in grade, which is determined by the service secretary. However, the censure letter can still impact the officer's status and the perception of their service within the military community.
U.S. Naval Institute+5

I don't know if the Navy has announced it our not. Why would they? I mean besides the fact that our demented president would announce things whether or not it was appropriate.

 

[Company 13]

I vote only for republicans. We do not lock step agree. But we vote for the party member knowing our other option delivers agony.

Notice you never read Democrats using labels on themselves. Even the word liberal is so vague it is useless.

Are democrats liberal as to Trumps presidency?

I don't know what you mean when you say Democrats never use labels on themselves. I hear them calling themselves progressives and liberals.
Liberal isn't a vague term.
I would think liberals are liberal about Trump in that they would not want him to be put in jail or thrown out of office without due process. That kind of thing.

I have voted for Democrats and Republicans. Where I live, they are all conservative regardless of party.

 

[Mick2]

Capt. Kelley didn't tell others to disobey orders, he reminded them they don't have to obey ILLEGAL orders. Why did you leave the ILLEGAL part out.

Sure, leave it in. What "illegal" orders? And who is the authority deciding whether they are legal or not?

 

[Mick2]

I think they are smart enough to know not to follow obviously illegal orders. He was simply letting them know that they don't have to follow illegal orders even from anyone at all.

What illegal orders? And did the courts rule it illegal or is that deranged left-wing code for "orders that you don't like"?

 

[0311]

As you may have heard Donald Trump got triggered because Mark Kelly told soldiers that if they are given illegal orders, they should disobey them. As retaliation, he lowered Mark Kelly’s salary. Hegseth did, but same shit. He’s Trump’s puppet.

Because of the first amendment, Mark Kelly will prevail in court after asking a judge to stop these retaliatory reduced payments. This will be another loss in court for Donald Trump, who is an expert on that.

He would probably get six months approximately of reduced pay before a court orders a stop to the illegal retaliation.

Trump will be extra triggered.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/05/politics/pentagon-cuts-mark-kellys-retirement-pay-punishment

Senator Kelly is a decorated Naval Aviator, he commanded the Space Shuttle. He has the First Amendment Right to Freedom Speech to back him up. Hogsbreath is chicken shit talking head.

 

[Robert W]

I don't know if the Navy has announced it our not. Why would they? I mean besides the fact that our demented president would announce things whether or not it was appropriate.

When you get up to date, we can move forward.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Senator Kelly is a decorated Naval Aviator, he commanded the Space Shuttle. He has the First Amendment Right to Freedom Speech to back him up. Hogsbreath is chicken shit talking head.

***** Pete is an insecure mess who is in over his head.

 

[berg80]

When I was in the Army, every soldier had the same lectures. We were told not to follow illegal orders. I don't recall if we were given examples.

For an officer, even on paid retirement to instruct as did Kelly, implies illegal orders were given out. Well, he has been censured so we will see what his next act is.

The video is very clear in its message. You don't have to follow illegal orders. Full stop. Nothing was implied.

 

[Robert W]

The video is very clear in its message. You don't have to follow illegal orders. Full stop. Nothing was implied.

We learned that in basic training. But we were not told to disobey all orders. Kelly put his foot into his own shit and made his own mess.

 

[Robert W]

***** Pete is an insecure mess who is in over his head.

Who is censured? Kelly is so insecure he shit his own bed.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Who is censured? Kelly is so insecure he shit his own bed.

Haha, what nonsense. You're an idiot that will say anything to get a response. You don't believe most of what you vomit.

 

[0311]

Senator Kelly made no traitorous statement, nor is what is what he said sedition. He stated quite clearly and very legally stated that no member of the United States Military has to obey an "Illegal Order", (Mai Li comes to mind). That is outlined the Uniform Code of Military Justice (U.C.M.J.).

***** Pete was an arm chair commando who never spent one day on the outside of wire. That ***** faced talking head has no combat experience.

Senator Kelly flew combat missions over Iraq, he commanded the Space Shuttle, all Petey ever did was sit at a desk and fart.

 

[Robert W]

Haha, what nonsense. You're an idiot that will say anything to get a response. You don't believe most of what you vomit.

You are the second person today vetted and are now officially a fully licensed communist.

 

[Tumblin Tumbleweed]

As you may have heard Donald Trump got triggered because Mark Kelly told soldiers that if they are given illegal orders, they should disobey them. As retaliation, he lowered Mark Kelly’s salary. Hegseth did, but same shit. He’s Trump’s puppet.

Because of the first amendment, Mark Kelly will prevail in court after asking a judge to stop these retaliatory reduced payments. This will be another loss in court for Donald Trump, who is an expert on that.

He would probably get six months approximately of reduced pay before a court orders a stop to the illegal retaliation.

Trump will be extra triggered.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/05/politics/pentagon-cuts-mark-kellys-retirement-pay-punishment

Orange bag O' shit.

 

[Robert W]

As you may have heard Donald Trump got triggered because Mark Kelly told soldiers that if they are given illegal orders, they should disobey them. As retaliation, he lowered Mark Kelly’s salary. Hegseth did, but same shit. He’s Trump’s puppet.

Because of the first amendment, Mark Kelly will prevail in court after asking a judge to stop these retaliatory reduced payments. This will be another loss in court for Donald Trump, who is an expert on that.

He would probably get six months approximately of reduced pay before a court orders a stop to the illegal retaliation.

Trump will be extra triggered.

https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/05/politics/pentagon-cuts-mark-kellys-retirement-pay-punishment

If it will turn out in his favor, as you claim, why is Kelly angry?