Judge blocks Trump’s Pentagon from demoting Mark Kelly over 'illegal orders' video

[meaner gene]

Yes, as mentioned this rogue court disagreed with the scotus and undermined the rule of law

No violation of the USSC decision.
This is a case of original jurisdiction, and not applicable to any other district.

 

[Godboy]

you didn’t say what part of the law Kelly broke.

He implied that Trumps orders were unlawful and that soldiers should refuse to follow his orders. Thats the illegal part, but it seems that he walked the line just close enough with his wording to avoid being charged, but it was close as shit.

 

[meaner gene]

He implied that Trumps orders were unlawful and that soldiers should refuse to follow his orders. Thats the illegal part, but it seems that he walked the line just close enough with his wording to avoid being charged, but it was close as shit.

He didn't imply that Trump's orders would be illegal. But he warned them no to follow those orders that were illegal.

Just look at the soldiers in the Abu Ghraib prison.

In response to the events at Abu Ghraib, the United States Department of Defense removed 17 soldiers and officers from duty. Eleven soldiers were charged with dereliction of duty, maltreatment, aggravated assault and battery. Between May 2004 and April 2006, these soldiers were court-martialed, convicted, sentenced to military prison, and dishonorably discharged from service.

They were just following illegal orders.

 

[Godboy]

He didn't imply that Trump's orders would be illegal. But he warned them no to follow those orders that were illegal.

Ohh, it was just a random public service announcement that he and other congressmen decided to Tweet? TOTALLY random, right? Had nothing to do with anything at all, right? Nevermind the fact that the democrat party has been shouting to the mountain tops that Trump using the National Guard is illegal and unconstitutional. Thats all just coincidental timing, right?

 

[g5000]

Because that's the only way for it to actually be a violation of UCMJ.

Kelly et. al made it every clear, unequivocal, they were talking about UNLAWFUL orders.

So why do the jackholes keep redacting that word in an attempt to make him say something he did NOT?

 

[WEATHER53]

Good luck.

Don’t need luck
Got military law

 

[WEATHER53]

Kelly et. al made it every clear, unequivocal, they were talking about UNLAWFUL orders.

So why do the jackholes keep redacting that word in an attempt to make him say something he did NOT?

Each soldier in the heat of conflict IS NOT permitted to declare a situation unlawful and disobey lawful orders because he feels bad about the order

 

[Zincwarrior]

Don’t need luck
Got military law

Evidently you don't. Military law does not Trump the First Amendment for sailors NOT IM THE MILITARY. Thats Da Judge.

 

[g5000]

Each soldier in the heat of conflict IS NOT permitted to declare a situation unlawful and disobey lawful orders because he feels bad about the order

Yes. And?

Are you saying service members are too stupid to know an unlawful order when they hear one?

You're talking to a vet who served 20 years. Mark Kelly is also a vet.

We both know what we are talking about, and you dodged the question of why the jackholes keep redacting the key word "UNLAWFUL" from their bullshit narrative in order to twist Kelly's words into something he did NOT say.

 

[struth]

No violation of the USSC decision.
This is a case of original jurisdiction, and not applicable to any other district.

What the f are you talking about?

You aren’t even using the phrases right

Of course it’s a case of orginal jurisdiction all that means is thr district court has orginal jurisdiction over the case cause it’s the first place the case can be heard

original jurisdiction

www.law.cornell.edu

That doesn’t mean the issue hasn’t be litigated

You sound so stupid when you act like you know what you are talking about

You are way out of your league here kido

 

[meaner gene]

Ohh, it was just a random public service announcement that he and other congressmen decided to Tweet? TOTALLY random, right? Had nothing to do with anything at all, right? Nevermind the fact that the democrat party has been shouting to the mountain tops that Trump using the National Guard is illegal and unconstitutional. Thats all just coincidental timing, right?

This was a general warning. Applicable to the previous 250 years, or the next 250 years.

 

[meaner gene]

Each soldier in the heat of conflict IS NOT permitted to declare a situation unlawful and disobey lawful orders because he feels bad about the order

That's why from the time they get into boot camp, they are instructed what are lawful orders and what are unlawful orders.

Training Focus: Training includes ethical guidelines and, in many cases, training on the laws of war, especially for combat roles, to prepare troops for difficult, fast-moving situations.

 

[meaner gene]

What the f are you talking about?

You aren’t even using the phrases right

Of course it’s a case of orginal jurisdiction all that means is thr district court has orginal jurisdiction over the case cause it’s the first place the case can be heard

Then let me add it's the court of sole jurisdiction

Sole or exclusive jurisdiction is the authority of a specific court, agency, or government entity to hear, decide, and resolve a particular case or subject matter to the exclusion of all others. It prevents other courts or entities from adjudicating the same matter,

 

[WEATHER53]

That's why from the time they get into boot camp, they are instructed what are lawful orders and what are unlawful orders.

Training Focus: Training includes ethical guidelines and, in many cases, training on the laws of war, especially for combat roles, to prepare troops for difficult, fast-moving situations.

Troops don’t give orders and don’t get to disobey them

 

[meaner gene]

Troops don’t give orders and don’t get to disobey them

the NCO tier, which includes Corporal (E-4) through Sergeant Major (E-9).

I presume you include these in the "troops"

 

[Godboy]

This was a general warning. Applicable to the previous 250 years, or the next 250 years.

Except you, me and every other person on the planet knows that isnt true. Your disingenuous arguments are weak and boring.

 

[j-mac]

So the SC can but thus local joke judge can’t

He can try, but I’d think his partisan meddling would be overturned pretty quick…

 

[meaner gene]

Except you, me and every other person on the planet knows that isnt true. Your disingenuous arguments are weak and boring.

It's no different than telling your kids not to take gifts from strangers.

 

[meaner gene]

So the SC can but thus local joke judge can’t

The SC can overrule a military court. The federal judge can rule on who has jurisdiction.

 

[meaner gene]

On February 12, 2026, U.S. District Judge Richard Leon granted a preliminary injunction blocking the Pentagon from punishing or demoting Senator Mark Kelly over a video urging troops to defy illegal orders, ruling the action likely violated Kelly's First Amendment rights. The court rejected the Defense Department's assertion that it had jurisdiction to discipline the retired Navy captain for his speech.

Free Speech Protection: Judge Leon ruled that the military's authority to limit the speech of active-duty members does not extend to retired, non-active duty personnel