No Way Alabama Deserves to be in the College Football Playoffs

I'm talking about why the CFP picks certain teams over others. That's not changed. When it was 4 teams, they had a vague "best 4 teams" qualification, not the best records or most "deserving".
? The criteria has 100% changed. There are 5 auto bids which didn't exist and then the next 7 highest ranked teams. That's wildly different than the 4 team format. I dont even know what your trying to get at here.
What we know is that
1. Had #11 BYU won their conference title, they'd have been in. They lost, so they were out and their ranking dropped.
Yep they would have and TT would have likely gotten in as well based on their ranking prior to that game putting them in the PO's. BYU was not in the PO prior to playing their CCG and they werent after they lost their CCG. What exactly is the "punishment" as it pertains to the PO's you think they suffered?
2. #9 Alabama lost their conference title, and they stayed at #9 (which has never happened before in 11 years of CFP rankings) and they stayed in.
So if had they dropped to 10 you wouldnt complain? Is their not dropping from 9 to 10 (which would have had zero impact on whether they went to the PO or not) your entire gripe? Talk about mountains out of mole hills
It doesn't get any more clear than that when you talk double standards.

No, nobody is bitching. I'm talking about optics, and I'll gladly parse an Alabama vs. Miami vs. Notre Dame debate.
What' the optic? Alabama was in the PO prior to playing their CCG and they were in post losing their CCG as the committee said would happen prior to the year starting. Miami and ND have nothing to do with it. ND had no business in the top 10 to begin with.
1. What messed this year up was something unrelated to who the best team is. Duke beat Virginia in the ACC championship game (which Miami didn't even qualify for). Had Virginia won, Virginia would have gotten in from the ACC, and the CFP committee would have had the freedom to leave Miami out and put Notre Dame in. Because Duke won, Virginia dropped (Unlike Alabama)... based on politics alone the CFP committee HAD to put in Miami, or else there would be no ACC team, and they couldn't justify that.

1. Virginia was not in the PO prior to playing their CCG which is why they still arent post playing and losing their CCG. They would have gotten into the PO's had they won their CCG based on the autobid selection.

2. Miami got in over ND because they beat them head to head. That's it. I dont know why anyone ranked ND in the top 10 to begin with as their resume doesnt support that, Im just glad they were outside looking in. Their little temper tantrum after the selection has bagged them their own special autobid now though. I hope the committee ranks them 13 from now until they join a conference. But we all know that wont happen. ND will play it's ridiculously easy schedule each year, and make the PO's
So, Miami got in over Notre Dame based on politics alone. People said it was head to head, but that was a toss up game that didn't really harm either team (Like OSU vs. Indiana), and Notre Dame was the superior team throughout the season by any metric or eyeball test.
No in over ND because ND lost to MIAMI. Want to know how we all know Miami is better than ND. Because they played a game and Miami won.
That leaves Notre Dame vs. Alabama, and this could go either way.
No it couldn't.
Bama had better wins, but also far worse losses. Bama also looked worse in their last 4 games, while Notre Dame was on a roll, pulling starters in 3rd Quarters... in hindsight they probably should have aimed to blow out teams as much as possible to "impress" the committee with 63-7 wins. The time of losses matters also, it always has. Notre Dame's losses were to elite programs at the beginning of the year. That's different than a loss at the end of the year. You know this if you have followed college football.
ND was "blowing out opponents" because they dont play anyone. Their schedule was ridiculously soft. The 2 good teams they played all year they lost to. Miami and Texas A and M.
So, My main claim here is that this just looks horrible if you're going to try to fight the idea of Alabama bias. What happened happened, much of it not for the reasons people claim.. but anyone who claims Alabama bias has every reason to continue to claim it based on historical precedent/norms as well as what happened this year when you compare BYU and Alabama.
What's the bias? Them not dropping from 9 to 10 and still making the PO's? OMG they should probably launch an investigation or blow up the entire system...
Yes it is, it's a pipe dream, an automatic 17-20pt line game that will be a blow out. It's a completely different sport trying to capture the "magic" of david vs. goliath in the basketball march madness and bring it to the football field, but that's not possible. G5 teams cannot defeat Ohio State, Indiana, Texas Tech, Oregon, etc. It's a more deliberate sport than basketball, I understand why they might have wanted to try it, but it's a joke. I'm glad Tulane and James Madison were blown out this year so hopefully it can all end. This year would have been so much better had we gotten Oregon vs. Notre Dame and Missouri vs. Texas

So break Div 1 up into smaller sections. Until that's done allowing 1 or 2 "Cinderella's" into the dance is a necessary evil.
 
? The criteria has 100% changed. There are 5 auto bids which didn't exist and then the next 7 highest ranked teams. That's wildly different than the 4 team format. I dont even know what your trying to get at here.
You're talking about the structure, I'm talking about the reason for selections. Selecting At large teams is the exact same as when it was 4.
No in over ND because ND lost to MIAMI. Want to know how we all know Miami is better than ND. Because they played a game and Miami won.
I'm assuming you've followed College Football over the past 20-30 years? I would hope you know that it's not that simple. I've seen many examples of a team losing a head to head, but being above that team by the end of the year, especially when the game is in the first few weeks. If you haven't seen it, you weren't paying attention.
No it couldn't.

ND was "blowing out opponents" because they dont play anyone. Their schedule was ridiculously soft. The 2 good teams they played all year they lost to. Miami and Texas A and M.

What's the bias? Them not dropping from 9 to 10 and still making the PO's? OMG they should probably launch an investigation or blow up the entire system...
I'm the mildest Notre Dame fan you can run into (my nephew is a huge fan, I'm Michigan), but let's just play this out as far as Notre Dame vs. Alabama.

Notre Dame
Top 5 Quality Wins:
  • #16 USC 34-24
  • #26 Navy 49-10
  • @#29 Pitt 37-15
  • #40 Boise St. 28-7
  • #42 NC St. 36-7

Losses:
  • @#10 Miami 24-27
  • #6 Texas AM 40-41

Alabama
Top 5 Quality Wins
  • @#3 Georgia 24-21
  • #13 Vanderbilt 30-14
  • #27 Tennessee 37-20
  • @#30 Missouri 27-24
  • #47 LSU 20-9

Losses:
  • @ #62 Florida St. 17-31
  • #8 Oklahoma 21-23

Here's what I see.
1. Bama has better top 2 Quality wins
2. Last 3 Quality wins for both teams are even
3. Bama's losses are worse. To a lowly FSU team and then at home to Oklahoma.

Team Rankings SOS has
1. Indiana (18.7)
4. Alabama (16.6)
14. Notre Dame (12.8)
69. Oklahoma St. (0.0)
136. Umass (-17.0)

So, while Alabama technically has a tougher schedule, it isn't by much if you consider all of college football. With a rating spread of 35.7, they differ by 3.8. So Bama has a 10% tougher schedule than Notre Dame.

I would have been fine if either made it. Bama's resume and performance is very even with Notre Dame overall, and they both have faults that hold them down under the other while also having good factors that put them over the other.

I don't get how you're coming to some suggestion it's blatantly obvious.
 
They matter to the players when they get into a decent bowl game.

Also for the later round picks bowl games can polish their resume.
Not enough of them to make it worth anything. Two years ago, I sat through my college teams "bowl" game. It was the worst experience at a football game that I have had since my high school team went winless for about 3 seasons. All of the star players sat out, the game was a lopsided blowout in the other team's favor because the third strings from both teams started, and the temperature was in the teens. We froze to death! Never again!
 
Not enough of them to make it worth anything. Two years ago, I sat through my college teams "bowl" game. It was the worst experience at a football game that I have had since my high school team went winless for about 3 seasons. All of the star players sat out, the game was a lopsided blowout in the other team's favor because the third strings from both teams started, and the temperature was in the teens. We froze to death! Never again!

All I know is I will still turn them on to watch them over other things going on this time of year.
 
All I know is I will still turn them on to watch them over other things going on this time of year.
What is bad about this year is I lost my cable subscription and had to downgrade to an online streaming service. To get any sports I have to pay through the nose, and it simply is not worth it. To watch a game, I have to go to a sports bar!
 
What is bad about this year is I lost my cable subscription and had to downgrade to an online streaming service. To get any sports I have to pay through the nose, and it simply is not worth it. To watch a game, I have to go to a sports bar!
You can get a 24 hour pass for $4.99 or 3 day for I believe $9.99 from SlingTV. I did the one day for all the New Years day games and will do it again for Indianapolis and Oregon.
 
You can get a 24 hour pass for $4.99 or 3 day for I believe $9.99 from SlingTV. I did the one day for all the New Years day games and will do it again for Indianapolis and Oregon.
For some bizarre reason I can't access the day pass because I have an account. Really nor worth the hassle but thank you!
 
What is bad about this year is I lost my cable subscription and had to downgrade to an online streaming service. To get any sports I have to pay through the nose, and it simply is not worth it. To watch a game, I have to go to a sports bar!


Then you gotta spend $10 on a beer or more on 2 drinks per hour or maybe more on bad dirty food. Cover charge coming soon?
 
Can we stop with the ND should have been in over Miami bullshit now?
 
If all these NCAAF games come down to Clock and officials it is another mini-NFL.

Yes that last Ole' Miss hail Mary could have (should have?) been called DEF pass interference but rules are different last 10sec? Except in NFL road games? Home games? I'm confused?

Sigh, very tough to officiate. I know. But pulling a guy down by the shoulder pad for 8 yards could be called holding at least. Its tough. Yes indeed. One more play 10 yds closer?
 
On that last MIA TD drive, I was thinking Ole Miss would "let them score" saving clock for themselves to win it.

Once MIA got close enough to appear a "certainty" to get a TD.

But Ole Miss had stopped GA the prior game so......very difficult situation. Once MIA crossed midfield on that FaceMask call, it was getting dicey. FG to tie became a chip shot soon after.
 
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leftwinger

You would agree that Alabama was a PO team prior to playing the SEC champ game? And that if they never played that game you would have had no objection to them being in?

You would also agree that the committee prior to the season starting said that outcomes of CCGs would not knock teams out of the PO if they would have otherwise made it. Correct?

So explain to me the objection to Alabama making the PO.
 
leftwinger

What do you disagree with?

Alabama being a PO team prior to the CCG

Or

The committee stating before the season started that teams wouldn’t be punished (left out of the PO) because they lost their CCG?
 
leftwinger

You would agree that Alabama was a PO team prior to playing the SEC champ game? And that if they never played that game you would have had no objection to them being in?

You would also agree that the committee prior to the season starting said that outcomes of CCGs would not knock teams out of the PO if they would have otherwise made it. Correct?

So explain to me the objection to Alabama making the PO.

The answer is NO I did not.

They had 2 losses to FSU & OKLA played poorly in the AUB game. There were other 2 loss, and one loss teams out there. Why does ALA MICH etc always get forced thru?

Right or wrong I want equal chance for all 125. Looks like NIL money is now doing that? Quit shoe-horning tired old favorites to this TMT.
 
The answer is NO I did not.

They had 2 losses to FSU & OKLA played poorly in the AUB game. There were other 2 loss, and one loss teams out there. Why does ALA MICH etc always get forced thru?
Like who. ND? They didn’t play anyone outside the 2 teams they lost to. Alabama had wins over #3UGA and #14 Vandy.

Why is OU a “bad loss”. They were ranked 8.

ND lost to Miami was that a “bad loss”?
Right or wrong I want equal chance for all 125. Looks like NIL money is now doing that? Quit shoe-horning tired old favorites to this TMT.
Yeah leaving out Alabama and putting in ND is standing up for little guy. LOL.
 
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