NO, Unemployment is NOT DOWN

[pinqy]

Hisses the con who thinks people who work are unemployed.

no need to feel stupid!! after all you and pinky are liberals for whom its 100% normal


U-6 Total unemployed, plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force, plus total employed part time for economic reasons, as a percent of the civilian labor force plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force

Guess that make you abnormal then to think employed people are unemployed.

U-6 Total unemployed, plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force, plus totalemployed part time for economic reasons, as a percent of the civilian labor force plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force

Yes, it includes employed people. Need I remind you, you called them unemployed?

total idiot liberal!! The BLS calls them unemployed under the U6 designation.

No they don't. Look, nowhere in BLS will you see Employed part time for economic reasons called unemployed

 

[Faun]

Hisses the con who thinks people who work are unemployed.

no need to feel stupid!! after all you and pinky are liberals for whom its 100% normal


U-6 Total unemployed, plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force, plus total employed part time for economic reasons, as a percent of the civilian labor force plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force

Guess that make you abnormal then to think employed people are unemployed.

U-6 Total unemployed, plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force, plus totalemployed part time for economic reasons, as a percent of the civilian labor force plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force

Yes, it includes employed people. Need I remind you, you called them unemployed?

total idiot liberal!! The BLS calls them unemployed under the U6 designation.

How fucking retarded are you, ya fruit loop dingus?

You just read a definition of the U6 measurement which stated it includes "employed" people working part time for economic reasons.

Now you're moronically saying the BLS calls them unemployed when in fact, the BLS does no such thing.

The only one calling employed people unemployed is you. And you have proven to be completely out of your mind.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

no need to feel stupid!! after all you and pinky are liberals for whom its 100% normal


U-6 Total unemployed, plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force, plus total employed part time for economic reasons, as a percent of the civilian labor force plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force

Guess that make you abnormal then to think employed people are unemployed.

U-6 Total unemployed, plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force, plus totalemployed part time for economic reasons, as a percent of the civilian labor force plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force

Yes, it includes employed people. Need I remind you, you called them unemployed?

total idiot liberal!! The BLS calls them unemployed under the U6 designation.

No they don't. Look, nowhere in BLS will you see Employed part time for economic reasons called unemployed

see why we say the liberal will be slow??
The U6 unemployment rate counts not only people without work seeking full-time employment (the more familiar U-3 rate), but also counts "marginally attached workers - See more at: U6 Unemployment Rate Portal Seven

 

[Faun]

Guess that make you abnormal then to think employed people are unemployed.

U-6 Total unemployed, plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force, plus totalemployed part time for economic reasons, as a percent of the civilian labor force plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force

Yes, it includes employed people. Need I remind you, you called them unemployed?

total idiot liberal!! The BLS calls them unemployed under the U6 designation.

No they don't. Look, nowhere in BLS will you see Employed part time for economic reasons called unemployed

see why we say the liberal will be slow??
The U6 unemployment rate counts not only people without work seeking full-time employment (the more familiar U-3 rate), but also counts "marginally attached workers - See more at: U6 Unemployment Rate Portal Seven

Correct, the U6 rate includes employed people. Do you understand yet why everyone thinks you're retarded for calling those employed people, unemployed?

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

U-6 Total unemployed, plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force, plus totalemployed part time for economic reasons, as a percent of the civilian labor force plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force

Yes, it includes employed people. Need I remind you, you called them unemployed?

total idiot liberal!! The BLS calls them unemployed under the U6 designation.

No they don't. Look, nowhere in BLS will you see Employed part time for economic reasons called unemployed

see why we say the liberal will be slow??
The U6 unemployment rate counts not only people without work seeking full-time employment (the more familiar U-3 rate), but also counts "marginally attached workers - See more at: U6 Unemployment Rate Portal Seven

Correct, the U6 rate includes employed people. Do you understand yet why everyone thinks you're retarded for calling those employed people, unemployed?

too stupid as always. I didn't create u6 the BLS did.Isn't thinking always embarrassing for a liberal? Do you want to be a liberal all your life?

 

[Faun]

Yes, it includes employed people. Need I remind you, you called them unemployed?

total idiot liberal!! The BLS calls them unemployed under the U6 designation.

No they don't. Look, nowhere in BLS will you see Employed part time for economic reasons called unemployed

see why we say the liberal will be slow??
The U6 unemployment rate counts not only people without work seeking full-time employment (the more familiar U-3 rate), but also counts "marginally attached workers - See more at: U6 Unemployment Rate Portal Seven

Correct, the U6 rate includes employed people. Do you understand yet why everyone thinks you're retarded for calling those employed people, unemployed?

too stupid as always. I didn't create u6 the BLS did.Isn't thinking always embarrassing for a liberal? Do you want to be a liberal all your life?

Yes, you are too stupid. The BLS does not call them unemployed. You did. Do you understand yet why everyone thinks you're mentally retarded?

 

[pinqy]

Guess that make you abnormal then to think employed people are unemployed.

U-6 Total unemployed, plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force, plus totalemployed part time for economic reasons, as a percent of the civilian labor force plus all persons marginally attached to the labor force

Yes, it includes employed people. Need I remind you, you called them unemployed?

total idiot liberal!! The BLS calls them unemployed under the U6 designation.

No they don't. Look, nowhere in BLS will you see Employed part time for economic reasons called unemployed

see why we say the liberal will be slow??
The U6 unemployment rate counts not only people without work seeking full-time employment (the more familiar U-3 rate), but also counts "marginally attached workers - See more at: U6 Unemployment Rate Portal Seven

That's not BLS. That that website calls it an unemployment rate doesn't make it any more true than when you say it. BLS calls the U-6 a measure of underutilization.

 

[Faun]

Yes, it includes employed people. Need I remind you, you called them unemployed?

total idiot liberal!! The BLS calls them unemployed under the U6 designation.

No they don't. Look, nowhere in BLS will you see Employed part time for economic reasons called unemployed

see why we say the liberal will be slow??
The U6 unemployment rate counts not only people without work seeking full-time employment (the more familiar U-3 rate), but also counts "marginally attached workers - See more at: U6 Unemployment Rate Portal Seven

Correct, the U6 rate includes employed people. Do you understand yet why everyone thinks you're retarded for calling those employed people, unemployed?

too stupid as always. I didn't create u6 the BLS did.Isn't thinking always embarrassing for a liberal? Do you want to be a liberal all your life?

WTF?? This is YOU saying employed people are unemployed....

"yes dear idiot liberal a Ph.d flipping burgers for 5 hours a week would be considered employed under U3 but not under u6." ~ a brain-dead conservative​

... not the BLS. The BLS says nothing of the sort. In fact, it describes them as employed part time for economic reasons.

So despite your conservative viewpoint that working people are considered unemployed in the U6 rate, the BLS laughs at you just like everyone else here does.

What does your ignorance tell you?

 

[edthecynic]

The U-6 is not an unemployment rate.

dear, the U in U6 stand for unemployment. See why we have to conclude that a liberal will be slow??

Liar!

The U in U-6 stands for "UnderUTILIZATION!!!!!

Table A-15. Alternative measures of labor underutilization

HOUSEHOLD DATA
Table A-15. Alternative measures of labor underutilization

 

[JakeStarkey]

Protectionist is not adjusting the numbers for retirees, those who prefer to work only part time, those who do not have to or wish to work.

In fact we have about 6 million that would like jobs.

 

[pinqy]

The U-6 is not an unemployment rate.

dear, the U in U6 stand for unemployment. See why we have to conclude that a liberal will be slow??

Liar!

The U in U-6 stands for "UnderUTILIZATION!!!!!

Table A-15. Alternative measures of labor underutilization

HOUSEHOLD DATA
Table A-15. Alternative measures of labor underutilization

I don't get why anyone thinks it matters. The U originally stood for unemployment but that didn't mean that discouraged were redefined as unemployed for the U-7 or part time for economic reasons were redefined as unemployed for the U-6 and 7. Nor did it mean the U6 and U7 were measures of unemployment (the others were)

He'll, it wouldn't make sense to redefine terms for different measures.

When the U1 through U7 were turned into the U1 through U6, they were relabeled as measures of underutilization to be more clear. The U doesn't have to stand for anything. It's a stupid argument, from either side.
The U-1 through U-3 measure different aspects of unemployment, and the U-4 through U-6 include some people who are not unemployed in order to get a broader view.

 

[danielpalos]

There should only be one unemployment rate; the actual rate of unemployment. Discouraged workers are not employed or they would be counted as employed labor.

 

[pinqy]

There should only be one unemployment rate; the actual rate of unemployment.

That's how it was until the 1970's. But there was a demand for different aspects: narrower and broader, so the alternate measures were created.

Discouraged workers are not employed or they would be counted as employed labor.

Who is calling them employed? They are neither employed nor unemployed.

 

[RKMBrown]

There should only be one unemployment rate; the actual rate of unemployment. Discouraged workers are not employed or they would be counted as employed labor.

and what should the "actual" rate of unemployment be.. do we count people who don't want to work as unemployed? Do we count homemakers? Do we count drug dealers and other workers who work under the table? Do we count students? What if they don't want to work because we decided to give them disability or other forms of welfare? What if they don't want to work because we off-shored their work? What if they don't want to work because they are retiring early? What if they want to work but their unemployment benefits have run out and there are no jobs for their skill where they are looking? What if they want to work but are temporarily disabled and do not qualify for disability?

 

[danielpalos]

There should only be one unemployment rate; the actual rate of unemployment. Discouraged workers are not employed or they would be counted as employed labor.

and what should the "actual" rate of unemployment be.. do we count people who don't want to work as unemployed? Do we count homemakers? Do we count drug dealers and other workers who work under the table? Do we count students? What if they don't want to work because we decided to give them disability or other forms of welfare? What if they don't want to work because we off-shored their work? What if they don't want to work because they are retiring early? What if they want to work but their unemployment benefits have run out and there are no jobs for their skill where they are looking? What if they want to work but are temporarily disabled and do not qualify for disability?

dude, are you on the right? unemployed is unemployed, in any at-will employment State. underemployment is a different Thing.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Well, we've heard from the parrots whose comments are mostly an echo of the AM Radio crowd, so herein is a little news posted today:

U.S. jobless claims drop sharply to near 15-year low Reuters

Now, the only reason such numbers and articles are ignored, is to breed fear into the voters in the hope they will believe the Republican elected officials, who so desperately want to win the White House, they hope the economic only improves after Nov. 2016.

Country First is just a phrase, like Big Tent, voter fraud and tax and spend - without proof and substance, they are simply jejune expressions echoed by the parrots.

 

[RKMBrown]

There should only be one unemployment rate; the actual rate of unemployment. Discouraged workers are not employed or they would be counted as employed labor.

and what should the "actual" rate of unemployment be.. do we count people who don't want to work as unemployed? Do we count homemakers? Do we count drug dealers and other workers who work under the table? Do we count students? What if they don't want to work because we decided to give them disability or other forms of welfare? What if they don't want to work because we off-shored their work? What if they don't want to work because they are retiring early? What if they want to work but their unemployment benefits have run out and there are no jobs for their skill where they are looking? What if they want to work but are temporarily disabled and do not qualify for disability?

dude, are you on the right? unemployed is unemployed, in any at-will employment State. underemployment is a different Thing.

I'm classic conservative, aka. libertarian conservative.

The definition of a word is not the word.

You can't say unemployment is unemployment.

For example, you might say unemployment is the number of adults who do not have full time jobs. Or you could say unemployment is the number of adults between the age of 25 and 65 who do not have jobs. Or you could say unemployment is the number of employable adults between the age of 25 and 65 who do not have full time jobs. OR.... or ... or...

 

[SteadyMercury]

dude, are you on the right?

I'm baffled as to how this has anything to do with what is being argued.

 

[SteadyMercury]

For example, you might say unemployment is the number of adults who do not have full time jobs. Or you could say unemployment is the number of adults between the age of 25 and 65 who do not have jobs. Or you could say unemployment is the number of employable adults between the age of 25 and 65 who do not have full time jobs. OR.... or ... or...

Exactly, and this is why we have different measures. We can use the measure that best fits what we are trying to define.

Or alternately we can do like Special EdBaiamonte and use whatever one we think will score points in a political argument instead of what is logical.

 

[RKMBrown]

For example, you might say unemployment is the number of adults who do not have full time jobs. Or you could say unemployment is the number of adults between the age of 25 and 65 who do not have jobs. Or you could say unemployment is the number of employable adults between the age of 25 and 65 who do not have full time jobs. OR.... or ... or...

Exactly, and this is why we have different measures. We can use the measure that best fits what we are trying to define.

Or alternately we can do like Special EdBaiamonte and use whatever one we think will score points in a political argument instead of what is logical.

True. However trying to make logic out of unemployment is not an easy task. This is mostly because the act of being un-employed is itself illogical. One starts to make excuses / explanations for why someone is unemployed and then extrapolate that because of this or that excuse there must be millions like that person. For example, went back to school, is working under the table, is under employed, is "discouraged," is laid off, is a homemaker now, ...

The assumptions we make for "why" people are unemployed, lead to assumptions on what unemployment means. But they are just assumptions.

High unemployment might be a good thing when pay goes through the roof and more people switch back to being homemakers, or go back to school... Or it might be a bad thing when more people are claiming dependency and collecting welfare. Or it also might be a bad thing if the people who are unemployed don't meet the needs of the employers and are unwilling to re-train or create their own jobs, thus become dead beats or homeless.