No, Muslims Should NOT Be Allowed To Serve In Public Office

[Lastamender]

There are no greater HATERS of CHRISTIANS on the PLANET than MUSLIMS.

You could have stopped with haters. Islam teaches hate for anyone or anything un-Islamic.

That is silly.
The Crusades failed, and yet no Muslim harms Christian pilgrims going through the Mideast.
In fact, Moslems are famous for hiring Jews as viziers in order to administer their governments.

That is silly.

No, it is true. Read the literature that says so, apparently you never have. I have sourced kit for you. Try to learn something. Islam is all about hate and supremacy. Fact.

 

[Pogo]

There are no greater HATERS of CHRISTIANS on the PLANET than MUSLIMS.

You could have stopped with haters. Islam teaches hate for anyone or anything un-Islamic.

That is silly.
The Crusades failed, and yet no Muslim harms Christian pilgrims going through the Mideast.
In fact, Moslems are famous for hiring Jews as viziers in order to administer their governments.

You're the biggest LIAR thus far I've seen on here spreading bull shit about islam.

SMGDFH​

 

[007]

The closest thing to Nazis in the world are republicans, who believe in the same coalition of military, aristocracy, and capitalists, to rule over those they claim are inferior.

There are very few Muslims in the US, but Catholicism is very similar.
In fact, Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are all very similar Abrahamic religions, which all share the same Old Testament.

I'm getting the feeling that YOU are a Muslim Islamist, and you are propagandizing right here.

Dear me....whatever will you do?

You don't care... quit being a ninny.

 

[007]

There are no greater HATERS of CHRISTIANS on the PLANET than MUSLIMS.

You could have stopped with haters. Islam teaches hate for anyone or anything un-Islamic.

That is silly.
The Crusades failed, and yet no Muslim harms Christian pilgrims going through the Mideast.
In fact, Moslems are famous for hiring Jews as viziers in order to administer their governments.

You're the biggest LIAR thus far I've seen on here spreading bull shit about islam.

SMGDFH​

Really? Then please... REPOST SOMETHING I've said about islam in this thread that was a LIE... go ahead... do it... bring it on...

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Nobody should be able to serve publicly who has an alligence that prevents them from serving the public.

You mean like the Christian clerk who refused to issue marriage licenses to gay couples in opposition to her state’s laws.

It was not in opposition to state law. In was in opposition to a court ruling. There is a difference.

She should have abided by the court ruling nonetheless.

 

[Rigby5]

You rant and you rave.....what are you going to DO about it?

Where is Coyote, I noticed the Sharia cavalry has arrived. Islam is a cancer, time to admit it and do something about it.

Would you prefer the Old Testament Judaism where they would sing songs glorifying the massacre of Canaanite women and children at Jericho?
Would you prefer the inquisitions, crusades, conquistadors, and witch burnings of Christianity?

songs about Jericho during the time of the Old Testament------you got some recordiings. Even back then, jews were literate--------where are the songs written? ------in the Kharahan? There is a song "Joshua fought the battle of Jericho" but it was written in the USA ----fairly recently and not even by jews. You are very confused. Do you remember the vile and disgusting pig that raped and murdered in the city of Yathrib? That dog even sold people into slavery-----pig that he was

Actually, Jews were not literate back around 1000 BC when Joshua massacred the Canaanites at Jericho.
But the Old Testament says that his praises were sung for the massacre.
Hebrew did not have a written form until around 100 BC.
They could learn Aramaic, but I doubt many Jews did.

Yathrib is another name for Medina, and no one raped or murdered there.
Mohammad took up defenses there, but he did so because the Jewish tribes at Medina were his allies.
It was the Meccans who attacked Medina.

Jewish history does not change one thing about Islam, that battle or the fact that you are denying the proven truth.

You are simply wrong.
Mohammad basically relied in Jews for his main allies.
He never attacked or fought against any of his allies, 11 of the 12 Jewish tribes.
The only problem Mohammad ever had with any Jews was the Banu Quraizah tribe of Jews, who tried to assassinate him. But it was still the other 11 Jewish tribes who punished the Banu Quraizah, not Mohammad.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

A year ago, there was a thread entitled >> "Do Republicans believe a Muslim should be allowed to serve in public office if elected?" I'm now answering that by saying No, Republicans don't believe Muslims should be allowed to serve in public office, elected or not. Furthermore, no American should be OK with Muslims serving in public office.

First of all, in America, Islam is sedition, by virtue of it's supremacism, which is in violation of the Constitution (article 6, section 2, part 1-the Supremacy Clause).

Secondly, Islam is an ideology (masquerading as a religion), which advocates (if not commands) the violation of scores of US laws, including some of the most serious felonies (ex. murder, rape, pedophilia, slavery, sex discrimination)

Not only should Muslims not be part of government in America, but Islam should not exist in America, period. There should be no mosques, no Korans, no Islamic centers, etc

You know what, let's throw out the Jews too. And the Eye-talians. And the Micks. And Bohunks, and Dwarfs, and Limeys and Hungarians. Catholics? Gotta go. Injuns? Send 'em back where they came from. Chinee, Japs, Canooks, all yesterday. Germans, ship 'em out.

Seen this movie before. Wait'll you see how it ends.

We've never had any real problems with any of those, just the Muslims. Only the Muslims.

Yuh huh.
Click the link.

Here, click this one with it. No extra charge.

Also, check this out. Obscure document special.

>> Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

That's all kinds of fail, Pogo. The US Marines were formed to fight Muslims.

ORLY? History of the United States Marine Corps - Wikipedia

He's a moron. That is a fact!

 

[WEATHER53]

No one shalt serve two masters.

 

[Rigby5]

It is easy to find how Islam made things better for people.
They were the first to incorporate welfare for widows and orphans.
That is what the tithing paid at the mosque was for.
{... Muslims do give 2.5% of what they earn or save in the fiscal year to the (Islamic) Treasury as Zakaat (a form of tithe). Zakaat is the 4th pillar of Islam and the collection is distributed to the poor and the deserving others such as orphans, widows, students etc.
There are many verses in the Quran and Hadith that extol charity. ...}

They extol charity for other Muslims. Part of the Zakaat goes to jihad. Why did you not mention that?

Jihad is a personal thing, where you try to do the right thing, and fight against your impulses for things like greed. It has nothing to do with war or aggression. And in fact, the point of jihad is to avoid war or aggression.

JIHAD is the MUSLIM'S HOLY WAR to TAKE OVER THE WORLD.

What kind of BULL SHIT are you trying spread here?

We all know better.

You are totally and completely wrong.

{...
Jihad is an Arabic word which literally means striving or struggling, especially with a praiseworthy aim.[1][2][3][4] In an Islamic context, it can refer to almost any effort to make personal and social life conform with God's guidance, such as struggle against one's evil inclinations, religious proselytizing, or efforts toward the moral betterment of the ummah Jihad is an Arabic word which literally means striving or struggling, especially with a praiseworthy aim.[1][2][3][4] In an Islamic context, it can refer to almost any effort to make personal and social life conform with God's guidance, such as struggle against one's evil inclinations, religious proselytizing, or efforts toward the moral betterment of the ummah
...}

I don't care what you want to call it...

Except it is so easy to prove that is wrong, that it is foolish.
For example, since Jerusalem was under Muslim or Arab rule for about 2000 years, how come no Muslims ever harmed or killed any of the Jews living there or anywhere in the Mideast?
In fact, why are there over 30,000 Jews voluntarily living in Tehran right now?

 

[Lastamender]

Where is Coyote, I noticed the Sharia cavalry has arrived. Islam is a cancer, time to admit it and do something about it.

Would you prefer the Old Testament Judaism where they would sing songs glorifying the massacre of Canaanite women and children at Jericho?
Would you prefer the inquisitions, crusades, conquistadors, and witch burnings of Christianity?

songs about Jericho during the time of the Old Testament------you got some recordiings. Even back then, jews were literate--------where are the songs written? ------in the Kharahan? There is a song "Joshua fought the battle of Jericho" but it was written in the USA ----fairly recently and not even by jews. You are very confused. Do you remember the vile and disgusting pig that raped and murdered in the city of Yathrib? That dog even sold people into slavery-----pig that he was

Actually, Jews were not literate back around 1000 BC when Joshua massacred the Canaanites at Jericho.
But the Old Testament says that his praises were sung for the massacre.
Hebrew did not have a written form until around 100 BC.
They could learn Aramaic, but I doubt many Jews did.

Yathrib is another name for Medina, and no one raped or murdered there.
Mohammad took up defenses there, but he did so because the Jewish tribes at Medina were his allies.
It was the Meccans who attacked Medina.

Jewish history does not change one thing about Islam, that battle or the fact that you are denying the proven truth.

You are simply wrong.
Mohammad basically relied in Jews for his main allies.
He never attacked or fought against any of his allies, 11 of the 12 Jewish tribes.
The only problem Mohammad ever had with any Jews was the Banu Quraizah tribe of Jews, who tried to assassinate him. But it was still the other 11 Jewish tribes who punished the Banu Quraizah, not Mohammad.

Muhammad has obligated Muslims to kill every last Jew. You are blatantly lying.

 

[Rigby5]

Actually, you are totally wrong.
Both Christianity and Islam are reformed versions of Judaism, and are very, very similar in all ways.
The main difference being that Christianity attacked and invaded more countries like the Conquistadors and Crusaders, while Muslims tend to be more peaceful.

more khutbah jumaat crap scattered on the mosque floor ^^^^ for those who do not know-----every 8 year old muslim child knows that the KORAN is the CORRECTION of the mess up of which da EVUL jews and da EVUL Christians made of ALLAH's holy kharahan. IT IS DA ORIGINAL from eden. not the disgusting mess created by the LYING ENEMEEEES OF ISLAM (to wit da jews and Christians <<<< I learned this crap in a mosque and scores to times since)

Nonsense.
The Quran is very clear that Jews and Christians are both "Brothers of the Book", meaning the same Old Testament, and are equal "Sons of Abraham".
In fact, Jews are a type of Arab.
That is what Semitic means really.

It is clear that you never read that piece of trash. ------Your Imam told you that
SEMITE MEANS ARAB? nope------there are lots of SEMITIC LANGUAGES----
Arabic is only one of them.

Arabic is NOT one of the original Arab languages.
Where do you think Hebrew came from, both as a people and a language?
They have Arab roots.
Where do you think the Hebrew came from before they went to Egypt to escape the drought?
They were Arabs living in the Sinai.
Look it up.
The oldest Arab language is Canaanite, and that preceded Hebrew by about 6000 years.

What's that got to do with muslims killing everyone that isn't a muslim?

Except that never happened or happens now.
The Quran is clear that Muslims are not allowed to harm Jews or Christians.

 

[irosie91]

There are a number of different threats. Islam is ALWAYS a threat, and isn't going away, unless it make it do that.

You rant and you rave.....what are you going to DO about it?

Where is Coyote, I noticed the Sharia cavalry has arrived. Islam is a cancer, time to admit it and do something about it.

Would you prefer the Old Testament Judaism where they would sing songs glorifying the massacre of Canaanite women and children at Jericho?
Would you prefer the inquisitions, crusades, conquistadors, and witch burnings of Christianity?

songs about Jericho during the time of the Old Testament------you got some recordiings. Even back then, jews were literate--------where are the songs written? ------in the Kharahan? There is a song "Joshua fought the battle of Jericho" but it was written in the USA ----fairly recently and not even by jews. You are very confused. Do you remember the vile and disgusting pig that raped and murdered in the city of Yathrib? That dog even sold people into slavery-----pig that he was

Actually, Jews were not literate back around 1000 BC when Joshua massacred the Canaanites at Jericho.
But the Old Testament says that his praises were sung for the massacre.
Hebrew did not have a written form until around 100 BC.
They could learn Aramaic, but I doubt many Jews did.

Yathrib is another name for Medina, and no one raped or murdered there.
Mohammad took up defenses there, but he did so because the Jewish tribes at Medina were his allies.
It was the Meccans who attacked Medina.

you are VERY VERY confused ----Hebrew had a written form by at least---
3000 BC ---not 100 BC. The murder fest enacted in Yathrib/medina is described
in the KHARAHAN. Aramaic was the language of Babylon and used by lots of
jews also. Jews were commonly literate in both Hebrew and Aramaic by 1000
BC

 

[irosie91]

Where is Coyote, I noticed the Sharia cavalry has arrived. Islam is a cancer, time to admit it and do something about it.

Would you prefer the Old Testament Judaism where they would sing songs glorifying the massacre of Canaanite women and children at Jericho?
Would you prefer the inquisitions, crusades, conquistadors, and witch burnings of Christianity?

songs about Jericho during the time of the Old Testament------you got some recordiings. Even back then, jews were literate--------where are the songs written? ------in the Kharahan? There is a song "Joshua fought the battle of Jericho" but it was written in the USA ----fairly recently and not even by jews. You are very confused. Do you remember the vile and disgusting pig that raped and murdered in the city of Yathrib? That dog even sold people into slavery-----pig that he was

Actually, Jews were not literate back around 1000 BC when Joshua massacred the Canaanites at Jericho.
But the Old Testament says that his praises were sung for the massacre.
Hebrew did not have a written form until around 100 BC.
They could learn Aramaic, but I doubt many Jews did.

Yathrib is another name for Medina, and no one raped or murdered there.
Mohammad took up defenses there, but he did so because the Jewish tribes at Medina were his allies.
It was the Meccans who attacked Medina.

Jewish history does not change one thing about Islam, that battle or the fact that you are denying the proven truth.

You are simply wrong.
Mohammad basically relied in Jews for his main allies.
He never attacked or fought against any of his allies, 11 of the 12 Jewish tribes.
The only problem Mohammad ever had with any Jews was the Banu Quraizah tribe of Jews, who tried to assassinate him. But it was still the other 11 Jewish tribes who punished the Banu Quraizah, not Mohammad.

from where did you get that history------from the jews still living in Arabia? They were literate back then and if they existed NOW they would still be literate

 

[Lastamender]

more khutbah jumaat crap scattered on the mosque floor ^^^^ for those who do not know-----every 8 year old muslim child knows that the KORAN is the CORRECTION of the mess up of which da EVUL jews and da EVUL Christians made of ALLAH's holy kharahan. IT IS DA ORIGINAL from eden. not the disgusting mess created by the LYING ENEMEEEES OF ISLAM (to wit da jews and Christians <<<< I learned this crap in a mosque and scores to times since)

Nonsense.
The Quran is very clear that Jews and Christians are both "Brothers of the Book", meaning the same Old Testament, and are equal "Sons of Abraham".
In fact, Jews are a type of Arab.
That is what Semitic means really.

It is clear that you never read that piece of trash. ------Your Imam told you that
SEMITE MEANS ARAB? nope------there are lots of SEMITIC LANGUAGES----
Arabic is only one of them.

Arabic is NOT one of the original Arab languages.
Where do you think Hebrew came from, both as a people and a language?
They have Arab roots.
Where do you think the Hebrew came from before they went to Egypt to escape the drought?
They were Arabs living in the Sinai.
Look it up.
The oldest Arab language is Canaanite, and that preceded Hebrew by about 6000 years.

What's that got to do with muslims killing everyone that isn't a muslim?

Except that never happened or happens now.

The Quran is clear that Muslims are not allowed to harm Jews or Christians.

Prove it. Let's see the verses that say so. Today. And being dhimmis does not count.

For the wrongdoing Jews, Allah has prepared a painful doom. 4:160-1

 

[irosie91]

Lee Rigby was the name of the innocent English christian boy in uniform----murdered for the glory of allah------in 2013 ---by muslim dogs

 

[Rigby5]

Actually, you are totally wrong.
Both Christianity and Islam are reformed versions of Judaism, and are very, very similar in all ways.
The main difference being that Christianity attacked and invaded more countries like the Conquistadors and Crusaders, while Muslims tend to be more peaceful.

You are totally ignorant about Islamic doctrine. Violent jihad is responsible for 270 million deaths and we are still counting

Tell me a war that was the fault of Muslims and was not about defense.

Their first recorded battle.

The Myth:
Muhammad Fought
the Battle of Badr
in Self-Defense

"Our Prophet (peace be upon him) never started hostilities and never fought anyone unless it was truly necessary."

The Truth:
If Muslims are only supposed to fight in self-defense, then the Battle of Badr would had to have been a case in which an enemy was attacking or marching on Muhammad at Medina. If this is what you want to believe, then stop right now and try to stay away from history books.

Muslim historians of the day meticulously documented the circumstances that preceded the Battle of Badr and there is not the least bit of wiggle room for anyone hoping to believe that Muslims fought in self-defense that day.

In the first place, the Meccans were not marching on Muhammad or Medina (Ibn Kathir v.2 p260). They did eventually send out an army - but it was to protect their caravans from Muslim raiders (who had recently killed Meccan caravan drivers defending their property). The Meccans were not interested in starting a war; only in seeing that their merchandise and drivers were unmolested by Muhammad’s pirates (see prior article on Muhammad's Caravan Raids).

Another popular misconception propagated by apologists is that the caravans were carrying the stolen goods of Muslims. There is no evidence for this from the record. In fact, not only do the historians say that the merchandise belonged to the Quraish, but the caravan was actually traveling to Mecca from Syria rather than the other way:Then the apostle heard that Abu Sufyan was coming from Syria with a large caravan of Qurish, containing their money and merchandise, accompanied by some thirty or forty men… When the Apostle heard about Abu Sufyan coming from Syria, he summoned the Muslims and said, “This is the Quraish caravan containing their property. Go out to attack it, perhaps Allah will give it as a prey.” (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 428)

When the Messenger of God (SAAS) heard that Abu Sufyan was arriving from Syria, he sent the Muslims out against them, saying, 'This caravan belongs to Quraysh, and will carry much wealth. Attack it; God may present it to you.' (Ibn Kathir v.II p.253)The account goes on to say that some of the Muslims were reluctant to participate in the attack because they did not want to go to war. Muhammad later refers to these peaceful Muslims as ‘Hypocrites’ in the Qur’an, where he also condemns them to Hell and demands that true Muslims deal with them harshly (66:9).

Myth: Muslims Fought the Battle of Badr in Self-Defense

Huh?
The Battle of Badr was when Mohammad and his Jewish allies finally defeated the Meccans who have been attacking him for a decade, made him flee Mecca, and to hold up in a defensive position in Medina.
There could hardly be a more defensive battle in all of history.

I am FASCINATED-----can you cite writings from Mecca regarding the
"persecutions of muslims" there. There were LOTS of literate people in
Mecca at that time-----Zoroastrians, Christians, Jews and maybe even Hindus----
somehow the whole affair got MISSED? What are the actual details? How many muslims did those EVIL POLYTHEISTICE MECCANS MURDER---or rape or enslave ------etc etc ???

{...
Muhammad left Mecca, in 622 CE, after he was warned about a plot to assassinate him. The migration of the Prophet and his followers from Mecca to Medina is known as Hijra or Hegira.

After leaving his home in Mecca, Muhammad hid for three days in the Cave of Thawr, located south of his home city. He then traveled north and arrived at Quba' near Medina on July 2, 622. He moved from Quba' to Medina, two weeks later.

According to the Islamic faith, the Prophet was commanded by Allah to leave Mecca for Medina. The plot to assassinate him was the result of his preaching of the revelations God bestowed upon him. He could not preach in public and he had several opponents and enemies in Mecca. Medina was the place where Muhammad started to attract more and more followers.

For the next ten years, the city remained Muhammad's base, from where they marched to Mecca and conquered it without battle. Today, Medina is considered the second holiest place in Islam and is often referred to as the "City of the Prophet," home of the "Prophet's Mosque". After the death of the Prophet Muhammad, Medina remained an important center and was considered the de facto capital of the Caliphate.
...}
Why Did Muhammad Leave Mecca?

{...
A delegation from Medina, consisting of the representatives of the twelve important clans of Medina, invited Muhammadas a neutral outsider to serve as the chief arbitrator for the entire community.[1][2] There was fighting in Yathrib (Medina) mainly involving its Arab and Jewish inhabitants for around a hundred years before 620.[1] The recurring slaughters and disagreements over the resulting claims, especially after the battle of Bu'ath in which all the clans were involved, made it obvious to them that the tribal conceptions of blood-feud and an eye for an eye were no longer workable unless there was one man with authority to adjudicate in disputed cases.[1] The delegation from Medina pledged themselves and their fellow-citizens to accept Muhammad into their community and physically protect him as one of themselves.[3]

Muhammad instructed his followers to emigrate to Medina until virtually all of his followers had left Mecca. Being alarmed at the departure of Muslims, according to the tradition, the Meccans plotted to assassinate him. He fooled the Meccans who were watching him, and secretly slipped away from the town.[4] By 622, Muhammad had emigrated to Medina, then known as Yathrib, a large agricultural oasis.[3] Following the emigration, the Meccans seized the properties of the Muslim emigrants in Mecca.[5] ...}

Muhammad in Medina - Wikipedia

 

[Lastamender]

"Then We seized them unawares, when they perceived not."
Unbelievers are never safe from Allah's wrath. 7:95-99

Does not sound like defensive fighting to me.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

we ought not call Arabs terrorists. that demoralizes them, they are innocent pure souls!

Apparently Saudis are.........now.

----------------------------- good people if they are willing to fight and kill Americas enemies , namely the 'iranians' and 'yemini' [ 'houtou' is it ' Bode ??

Good people who blew up the World Trade Centre. But it will be much better next time. Dumb Donald is selling them nuclear technology. The next time the Saudis attack the US, it's going to be a BIG mushroom cloud over Manhattan, if Trump has his way.

Are you honestly that ******* stupid?

The Saudis who attacked us on 9/11 were TERRORISTS! Had they been caught by their own government, they would have been beheaded! Why can't you get that through that boulder you carry on your shoulders where most people have a head?

 

[007]

more khutbah jumaat crap scattered on the mosque floor ^^^^ for those who do not know-----every 8 year old muslim child knows that the KORAN is the CORRECTION of the mess up of which da EVUL jews and da EVUL Christians made of ALLAH's holy kharahan. IT IS DA ORIGINAL from eden. not the disgusting mess created by the LYING ENEMEEEES OF ISLAM (to wit da jews and Christians <<<< I learned this crap in a mosque and scores to times since)

Nonsense.
The Quran is very clear that Jews and Christians are both "Brothers of the Book", meaning the same Old Testament, and are equal "Sons of Abraham".
In fact, Jews are a type of Arab.
That is what Semitic means really.

It is clear that you never read that piece of trash. ------Your Imam told you that
SEMITE MEANS ARAB? nope------there are lots of SEMITIC LANGUAGES----
Arabic is only one of them.

Arabic is NOT one of the original Arab languages.
Where do you think Hebrew came from, both as a people and a language?
They have Arab roots.
Where do you think the Hebrew came from before they went to Egypt to escape the drought?
They were Arabs living in the Sinai.
Look it up.
The oldest Arab language is Canaanite, and that preceded Hebrew by about 6000 years.

What's that got to do with muslims killing everyone that isn't a muslim?

Except that never happened or happens now.
The Quran is clear that Muslims are not allowed to harm Jews or Christians.

You are an EPIC... LIAR.

The Quran's Verses of Violence

 

[Lastamender]

You are totally ignorant about Islamic doctrine. Violent jihad is responsible for 270 million deaths and we are still counting

Tell me a war that was the fault of Muslims and was not about defense.

Their first recorded battle.

The Myth:
Muhammad Fought
the Battle of Badr
in Self-Defense

"Our Prophet (peace be upon him) never started hostilities and never fought anyone unless it was truly necessary."

The Truth:
If Muslims are only supposed to fight in self-defense, then the Battle of Badr would had to have been a case in which an enemy was attacking or marching on Muhammad at Medina. If this is what you want to believe, then stop right now and try to stay away from history books.

Muslim historians of the day meticulously documented the circumstances that preceded the Battle of Badr and there is not the least bit of wiggle room for anyone hoping to believe that Muslims fought in self-defense that day.

In the first place, the Meccans were not marching on Muhammad or Medina (Ibn Kathir v.2 p260). They did eventually send out an army - but it was to protect their caravans from Muslim raiders (who had recently killed Meccan caravan drivers defending their property). The Meccans were not interested in starting a war; only in seeing that their merchandise and drivers were unmolested by Muhammad’s pirates (see prior article on Muhammad's Caravan Raids).

Another popular misconception propagated by apologists is that the caravans were carrying the stolen goods of Muslims. There is no evidence for this from the record. In fact, not only do the historians say that the merchandise belonged to the Quraish, but the caravan was actually traveling to Mecca from Syria rather than the other way:Then the apostle heard that Abu Sufyan was coming from Syria with a large caravan of Qurish, containing their money and merchandise, accompanied by some thirty or forty men… When the Apostle heard about Abu Sufyan coming from Syria, he summoned the Muslims and said, “This is the Quraish caravan containing their property. Go out to attack it, perhaps Allah will give it as a prey.” (Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 428)

When the Messenger of God (SAAS) heard that Abu Sufyan was arriving from Syria, he sent the Muslims out against them, saying, 'This caravan belongs to Quraysh, and will carry much wealth. Attack it; God may present it to you.' (Ibn Kathir v.II p.253)The account goes on to say that some of the Muslims were reluctant to participate in the attack because they did not want to go to war. Muhammad later refers to these peaceful Muslims as ‘Hypocrites’ in the Qur’an, where he also condemns them to Hell and demands that true Muslims deal with them harshly (66:9).

Myth: Muslims Fought the Battle of Badr in Self-Defense

Huh?
The Battle of Badr was when Mohammad and his Jewish allies finally defeated the Meccans who have been attacking him for a decade, made him flee Mecca, and to hold up in a defensive position in Medina.
There could hardly be a more defensive battle in all of history.

I am FASCINATED-----can you cite writings from Mecca regarding the
"persecutions of muslims" there. There were LOTS of literate people in
Mecca at that time-----Zoroastrians, Christians, Jews and maybe even Hindus----
somehow the whole affair got MISSED? What are the actual details? How many muslims did those EVIL POLYTHEISTICE MECCANS MURDER---or rape or enslave ------etc etc ???

{...
Muhammad left Mecca, in 622 CE, after he was warned about a plot to assassinate him. The migration of the Prophet and his followers from Mecca to Medina is known as Hijra or Hegira.

After leaving his home in Mecca, Muhammad hid for three days in the Cave of Thawr, located south of his home city. He then traveled north and arrived at Quba' near Medina on July 2, 622. He moved from Quba' to Medina, two weeks later.

According to the Islamic faith, the Prophet was commanded by Allah to leave Mecca for Medina. The plot to assassinate him was the result of his preaching of the revelations God bestowed upon him. He could not preach in public and he had several opponents and enemies in Mecca. Medina was the place where Muhammad started to attract more and more followers.

For the next ten years, the city remained Muhammad's base, from where they marched to Mecca and conquered it without battle. Today, Medina is considered the second holiest place in Islam and is often referred to as the "City of the Prophet," home of the "Prophet's Mosque". After the death of the Prophet Muhammad, Medina remained an important center and was considered the de facto capital of the Caliphate.
...}
Why Did Muhammad Leave Mecca?

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A delegation from Medina, consisting of the representatives of the twelve important clans of Medina, invited Muhammadas a neutral outsider to serve as the chief arbitrator for the entire community.[1][2] There was fighting in Yathrib (Medina) mainly involving its Arab and Jewish inhabitants for around a hundred years before 620.[1] The recurring slaughters and disagreements over the resulting claims, especially after the battle of Bu'ath in which all the clans were involved, made it obvious to them that the tribal conceptions of blood-feud and an eye for an eye were no longer workable unless there was one man with authority to adjudicate in disputed cases.[1] The delegation from Medina pledged themselves and their fellow-citizens to accept Muhammad into their community and physically protect him as one of themselves.[3]

Muhammad instructed his followers to emigrate to Medina until virtually all of his followers had left Mecca. Being alarmed at the departure of Muslims, according to the tradition, the Meccans plotted to assassinate him. He fooled the Meccans who were watching him, and secretly slipped away from the town.[4] By 622, Muhammad had emigrated to Medina, then known as Yathrib, a large agricultural oasis.[3] Following the emigration, the Meccans seized the properties of the Muslim emigrants in Mecca.[5] ...}

Muhammad in Medina - Wikipedia

Muhammad in Medina - Wikipedia

I guess Wikipedia needs to do more research. I posted what really happened as told in the historical Islamic literature.