For those who say Trump is guilty by association.....

[airplanemechanic]

Do you hold the same standard for Clinton?

We all remember the Whitewater scandal of the 90's. And while the Clintons themselves were never charged, over a dozen people closely associated with Bill and Hillary were charged with over 40 crimes:

• Jim Guy Tucker: Governor of Arkansas at the time, resigned (fraud, 3 counts)
• John Haley: attorney for Jim Guy Tucker (tax evasion)
• William J. Marks, Sr.: Jim Guy Tucker's business partner (conspiracy)
• Stephen Smith: former Governor Clinton aide (conspiracy to misapply funds). Bill Clinton pardoned.
• Webster Hubbell: Clinton political supporter; U.S. Associate Attorney General; Rose Law Firm partner (embezzlement, fraud)
• Jim McDougal: banker, Clinton political supporter: (18 felonies, varied)
• Susan McDougal: Clinton political supporter (multiple frauds). Bill Clinton pardoned.
• David Hale: banker, self-proclaimed Clinton political supporter: (conspiracy, fraud)
• Neal Ainley: Perry County Bank president (embezzled bank funds for Clinton campaign)
• Chris Wade: Whitewater real estate broker (multiple loan fraud). Bill Clinton pardoned.
• Larry Kuca: Madison real estate agent (multiple loan fraud)
• Robert W. Palmer: Madison appraiser (conspiracy). Bill Clinton pardoned.
• John Latham: Madison Bank CEO (bank fraud)
• Eugene Fitzhugh: Whitewater defendant (multiple bribery)
• Charles Matthews: Whitewater defendant (bribery)

So before you bring up "Trump must be guilty because Mueller charged lots of other people with crimes" you can't forget that those other charges had nothing to do with the Trump investigation and Russia, unlike the 15 people you see posted here whose crimes were DIRECTLY related to Whitewater.

OH YEA, AND HOW MANY OF THESE PEOPLE DID CLINTON PARDON? Trump is not discussing pardoning someone related to his case and the left is up in arms about the remote possibility that he might. Where were they when Clinton was throwing out Whitewater pardons like sperm cells on a dress?

So it begs the question, if Trump is guilty because these other people are, are the Clintons as well?

Whitewater controversy - Wikipedia

 

[shockedcanadian]

Guilt by association is weak. I've never liked the concept. It's far too easy to misrepresent people and drag them into something they aren't responsible for. All it does is create an environment of over judgement and suspicion of others. People avoid interactions because of how it might look, I have this opinion of people of all Faiths and political views. I will judge you for what you say, and more importantly what you do, on your own volition.

I always believe, leave someone to their own devices and judge them for who they are or who they become. Many nations, politicians, celebrities and regular folks rub elbows with suspect, even nefarious people. One often doesn't even realize it most of the time.

Now if they are extremely close friend to the point of sharing views and activities, then you judge them accordingly. Otherwise, as the bible asked "am I my brothers Keeper"?

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Guilt by association is a social justice complaint. It has no application in criminal justice or the real world.

 

[toobfreak]

Do you hold the same standard for Clinton?

We all remember the Whitewater scandal of the 90's. And while the Clintons themselves were never charged, over a dozen people closely associated with Bill and Hillary were charged with over 40 crimes:

• Jim Guy Tucker: Governor of Arkansas at the time, resigned (fraud, 3 counts)
• John Haley: attorney for Jim Guy Tucker (tax evasion)
• William J. Marks, Sr.: Jim Guy Tucker's business partner (conspiracy)
• Stephen Smith: former Governor Clinton aide (conspiracy to misapply funds). Bill Clinton pardoned.
• Webster Hubbell: Clinton political supporter; U.S. Associate Attorney General; Rose Law Firm partner (embezzlement, fraud)
• Jim McDougal: banker, Clinton political supporter: (18 felonies, varied)
• Susan McDougal: Clinton political supporter (multiple frauds). Bill Clinton pardoned.
• David Hale: banker, self-proclaimed Clinton political supporter: (conspiracy, fraud)
• Neal Ainley: Perry County Bank president (embezzled bank funds for Clinton campaign)
• Chris Wade: Whitewater real estate broker (multiple loan fraud). Bill Clinton pardoned.
• Larry Kuca: Madison real estate agent (multiple loan fraud)
• Robert W. Palmer: Madison appraiser (conspiracy). Bill Clinton pardoned.
• John Latham: Madison Bank CEO (bank fraud)
• Eugene Fitzhugh: Whitewater defendant (multiple bribery)
• Charles Matthews: Whitewater defendant (bribery)

So before you bring up "Trump must be guilty because Mueller charged lots of other people with crimes" you can't forget that those other charges had nothing to do with the Trump investigation and Russia, unlike the 15 people you see posted here whose crimes were DIRECTLY related to Whitewater.

OH YEA, AND HOW MANY OF THESE PEOPLE DID CLINTON PARDON? Trump is not discussing pardoning someone related to his case and the left is up in arms about the remote possibility that he might. Where were they when Clinton was throwing out Whitewater pardons like sperm cells on a dress?

So it begs the question, if Trump is guilty because these other people are, are the Clintons as well?

Whitewater controversy - Wikipedia

Let's face it, if associations mattered, the Clintons their entire lives have been as dirty as a pig wallowing in mud. You'd be hard-pressed to find a single Clinton associate or friend that WASN'T covered in scandal and corruption. What does that really say for our legal system, not to mention the mindless turnips that defend them regardless that these people remain free of prosecution?

 

[toobfreak]

Guilt by association is weak. I've never liked the concept. It's far too easy to misrepresent people and drag them into something they aren't responsible for. All it does is create an environment of over judgement and suspicion of others. People avoid interactions because of how it might look, I have this opinion of people of all Faiths and political views. I will judge you for what you say, and more importantly what you do, on your own volition.

I always believe, leave someone to their own devices and judge them for who they are or who they become. Many nations, politicians, celebrities and regular folks rub elbows with suspect, even nefarious people. One often doesn't even realize it most of the time.

Now if they are extremely close friend to the point of sharing views and activities, then you judge them accordingly. Otherwise, as the bible asked "am I my brothers Keeper"?

People have been convicted of murder on circumstantial evidence (reason by association) alone. God know the democrats have been trying to link (associate) a thousand things to Trump these past years in the hopes of getting him on something! Sometimes, when it WALKS like a duck, QUACKS like a duck, WADDLES like a duck and FLIES like a duck, IT'S A FUCKING DUCK.

 

[BULLDOG]

Trump is not guilty by association. He's guilty by his own actions.

 

[sparky]

Do you hold the same standard for Clinton?

yes

~S~

 

[beagle9]

Yes the hypocrisy is flat out amazing these days. Burn it all to the ground if can't get their way is the thinking these days. I guess the Nazi's had the same ideology or thinking when exiting their war torn areas or abandoning their naval equipment etc.

Trump's actions as our President has been exactly what the voters wanted. So when Trump is attacked, the voters are being attacked also. The crats underestimated the citizens who still believe in what they had when they grew up in this country, and how things weren't as bad as they are now, but of course minus some things back then being a work in progress in which caused suffering on all sides of the isles for everyone.

For the most part though, we somehow were able to be successful at helping many while turning things around in other areas of need.

Then we get the exploiters of our nation rising to power, and then using every issue under the sun as a hammer to beat this nation into submission. We have to be aware more and more or this nation is done.

 

[iceberg]

Do you hold the same standard for Clinton?

We all remember the Whitewater scandal of the 90's. And while the Clintons themselves were never charged, over a dozen people closely associated with Bill and Hillary were charged with over 40 crimes:

• Jim Guy Tucker: Governor of Arkansas at the time, resigned (fraud, 3 counts)
• John Haley: attorney for Jim Guy Tucker (tax evasion)
• William J. Marks, Sr.: Jim Guy Tucker's business partner (conspiracy)
• Stephen Smith: former Governor Clinton aide (conspiracy to misapply funds). Bill Clinton pardoned.
• Webster Hubbell: Clinton political supporter; U.S. Associate Attorney General; Rose Law Firm partner (embezzlement, fraud)
• Jim McDougal: banker, Clinton political supporter: (18 felonies, varied)
• Susan McDougal: Clinton political supporter (multiple frauds). Bill Clinton pardoned.
• David Hale: banker, self-proclaimed Clinton political supporter: (conspiracy, fraud)
• Neal Ainley: Perry County Bank president (embezzled bank funds for Clinton campaign)
• Chris Wade: Whitewater real estate broker (multiple loan fraud). Bill Clinton pardoned.
• Larry Kuca: Madison real estate agent (multiple loan fraud)
• Robert W. Palmer: Madison appraiser (conspiracy). Bill Clinton pardoned.
• John Latham: Madison Bank CEO (bank fraud)
• Eugene Fitzhugh: Whitewater defendant (multiple bribery)
• Charles Matthews: Whitewater defendant (bribery)

So before you bring up "Trump must be guilty because Mueller charged lots of other people with crimes" you can't forget that those other charges had nothing to do with the Trump investigation and Russia, unlike the 15 people you see posted here whose crimes were DIRECTLY related to Whitewater.

OH YEA, AND HOW MANY OF THESE PEOPLE DID CLINTON PARDON? Trump is not discussing pardoning someone related to his case and the left is up in arms about the remote possibility that he might. Where were they when Clinton was throwing out Whitewater pardons like sperm cells on a dress?

So it begs the question, if Trump is guilty because these other people are, are the Clintons as well?

Whitewater controversy - Wikipedia

kinda a silly question. we've already seen OF COURSE NOT!!!!

trump making a comment that could be a slam in as well as a "validation" of epstein is damning to him but being on epsteins planes 27+ times for ANYTHING is much less a concern.

when your only goal is to attack the other, a sense of fair play never enters your mind.

 

[Camp]

Do you hold the same standard for Clinton?

We all remember the Whitewater scandal of the 90's. And while the Clintons themselves were never charged, over a dozen people closely associated with Bill and Hillary were charged with over 40 crimes:

• Jim Guy Tucker: Governor of Arkansas at the time, resigned (fraud, 3 counts)
• John Haley: attorney for Jim Guy Tucker (tax evasion)
• William J. Marks, Sr.: Jim Guy Tucker's business partner (conspiracy)
• Stephen Smith: former Governor Clinton aide (conspiracy to misapply funds). Bill Clinton pardoned.
• Webster Hubbell: Clinton political supporter; U.S. Associate Attorney General; Rose Law Firm partner (embezzlement, fraud)
• Jim McDougal: banker, Clinton political supporter: (18 felonies, varied)
• Susan McDougal: Clinton political supporter (multiple frauds). Bill Clinton pardoned.
• David Hale: banker, self-proclaimed Clinton political supporter: (conspiracy, fraud)
• Neal Ainley: Perry County Bank president (embezzled bank funds for Clinton campaign)
• Chris Wade: Whitewater real estate broker (multiple loan fraud). Bill Clinton pardoned.
• Larry Kuca: Madison real estate agent (multiple loan fraud)
• Robert W. Palmer: Madison appraiser (conspiracy). Bill Clinton pardoned.
• John Latham: Madison Bank CEO (bank fraud)
• Eugene Fitzhugh: Whitewater defendant (multiple bribery)
• Charles Matthews: Whitewater defendant (bribery)

So before you bring up "Trump must be guilty because Mueller charged lots of other people with crimes" you can't forget that those other charges had nothing to do with the Trump investigation and Russia, unlike the 15 people you see posted here whose crimes were DIRECTLY related to Whitewater.

OH YEA, AND HOW MANY OF THESE PEOPLE DID CLINTON PARDON? Trump is not discussing pardoning someone related to his case and the left is up in arms about the remote possibility that he might. Where were they when Clinton was throwing out Whitewater pardons like sperm cells on a dress?

So it begs the question, if Trump is guilty because these other people are, are the Clintons as well?

Whitewater controversy - Wikipedia

Clinton should be investigated and probably impeached even though it was twenty-something years ago that he was a President.

 

[Mac1958]

Wingers always immediately declare guilt by association for members of the other tribe.

Wingers always try to spin away when one of their tribe is declared guilty by association.

Seriously, are not supposed to point this obvious stuff out? Is there some kind of rule?


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[rightwinger]

Do you hold the same standard for Clinton?

We all remember the Whitewater scandal of the 90's. And while the Clintons themselves were never charged, over a dozen people closely associated with Bill and Hillary were charged with over 40 crimes:

• Jim Guy Tucker: Governor of Arkansas at the time, resigned (fraud, 3 counts)
• John Haley: attorney for Jim Guy Tucker (tax evasion)
• William J. Marks, Sr.: Jim Guy Tucker's business partner (conspiracy)
• Stephen Smith: former Governor Clinton aide (conspiracy to misapply funds). Bill Clinton pardoned.
• Webster Hubbell: Clinton political supporter; U.S. Associate Attorney General; Rose Law Firm partner (embezzlement, fraud)
• Jim McDougal: banker, Clinton political supporter: (18 felonies, varied)
• Susan McDougal: Clinton political supporter (multiple frauds). Bill Clinton pardoned.
• David Hale: banker, self-proclaimed Clinton political supporter: (conspiracy, fraud)
• Neal Ainley: Perry County Bank president (embezzled bank funds for Clinton campaign)
• Chris Wade: Whitewater real estate broker (multiple loan fraud). Bill Clinton pardoned.
• Larry Kuca: Madison real estate agent (multiple loan fraud)
• Robert W. Palmer: Madison appraiser (conspiracy). Bill Clinton pardoned.
• John Latham: Madison Bank CEO (bank fraud)
• Eugene Fitzhugh: Whitewater defendant (multiple bribery)
• Charles Matthews: Whitewater defendant (bribery)

So before you bring up "Trump must be guilty because Mueller charged lots of other people with crimes" you can't forget that those other charges had nothing to do with the Trump investigation and Russia, unlike the 15 people you see posted here whose crimes were DIRECTLY related to Whitewater.

OH YEA, AND HOW MANY OF THESE PEOPLE DID CLINTON PARDON? Trump is not discussing pardoning someone related to his case and the left is up in arms about the remote possibility that he might. Where were they when Clinton was throwing out Whitewater pardons like sperm cells on a dress?

So it begs the question, if Trump is guilty because these other people are, are the Clintons as well?

Whitewater controversy - Wikipedia

<sob>. But.....but......What about Whitewater?

 

[Pilot1]

The Media keeps showing pictures of Trump with Bernstein. All are twenty years old, or more as Trump looks much, much younger. They are attempting to link Trump with Bernstein in current times, however. Nothing about Bill Clinton. Total hack job like the Russian HOAX.

 

[airplanemechanic]

Bill Clinton flew with the pedo to pedo island several times and the media is keeping that hush hush.

Nah, there is no bias in the media.

<sob>. But.....but......What about Whitewater?

Is asking for fair and equal treatment of BOTH parties just asking for too much?

 

[BULLDOG]

Trump and Epstein once held what they called a Calendar Girl competition whose only attendees were Trump, Epstein, and 28 young girls. The man is and always has been a pig.

 

[airplanemechanic]

Trump and Epstein once held what they called a Calendar Girl competition whose only attendees were Trump, Epstein, and 28 young girls. The man is and always has been a pig.

And they were all adults and NONE accused Trump of sexual misconduct.

 

[BULLDOG]

Trump and Epstein once held what they called a Calendar Girl competition whose only attendees were Trump, Epstein, and 28 young girls. The man is and always has been a pig.

And they were all adults and NONE accused Trump of sexual misconduct.

Not true.

 

[airplanemechanic]

Trump and Epstein once held what they called a Calendar Girl competition whose only attendees were Trump, Epstein, and 28 young girls. The man is and always has been a pig.

And they were all adults and NONE accused Trump of sexual misconduct.

Not true.

Ok, list of girls from the calendar girl competition who accused Trump of sexual misconduct?

Just saying its not true without proof shows you to be lying scum.

 

[Lesh]

Bill Clinton flew with the pedo to pedo island several times and the media is keeping that hush hush.

Nah, there is no bias in the media.

<sob>. But.....but......What about Whitewater?

Is asking for fair and equal treatment of BOTH parties just asking for too much?

So did Trump

 

[WTH_Progs?]

Progs are weak-minded and allow prog narratives to penetrate their brains very easily. Thus their standards are only what they've been instructed. Bill Clinton is a prime example. Obama is as well.