No food stamps for any family of a striking worker

[nraforlife]

I'm not real up on this so someone correct me if I'm wrong. Say if you're in a union and the union decides to go on strike. Don't you HAVE to stop working even if you don't want to?

Nope you are utterly free to cross the picket line.

 

[JBeukema]

Someone tries to steal your car and you taze him? He has a heart condition and dies? Easy to get hit with manslaughter. Truck attorney cause you can't afford a six-digit lawyer? Bam, you're a felon.

Skull doesn't think you should ever be allowed to earn an honest paycheck.

 

[AllieBaba]

And of course you can provide a link to him saying that.

What a cheesebag.

 

[JBeukema]

Naw, I don't need to. I'll just assume you're making shit up, since I see nothing to convince me otherwise.

I know, I know, hyperlinks are complicated shit. All that clicking. And those words! They have more than three syllables. Your itty bitty wittle bwain can't take it

 

[JBeukema]

And of course you can provide a link to him saying that.

What a cheesebag.

I already posted the link, you ******* retared

 

[nraforlife]

Bottomline - food stamps simply should not exist. federal food aid to distressed individuals should not exist. Food aid should be a private affair or at most an activity of State governments and then provided as commodities or soup kitchens.

Such should be the case with all forms of welfare.

 

[nraforlife]

............It is a felony, after all, to shoot someone who breaks into your house if the State decides your life wasn't in danger ................

Not in my State.

Regardless- Better Tried by 12, Than to be Carried by 6

 

[JBeukema]

Not all states have Castle Doctrine laws.

Many places, if you can't prove you have reason to believe the intruder was armed (or if the DA needs to a conviction to get a promotion), you can expect to get railroaded

 

[Eric Cartman]

Bottomline - food stamps simply should not exist. federal food aid to distressed individuals should not exist. Food aid should be a private affair or at most an activity of State governments and then provided as commodities or soup kitchens.

Such should be the case with all forms of welfare.

I would like to see all the new Republicans run on that message.

 

[Lasher]

So someone who refuses to work should be getting foodstamps? Why?

Heck, why do the Feds provide foodstamps anyway?

I don't know, maybe because for every $1.00 that is spent, even more is pumped into the economy.
I wonder if you guys would have a problem with them cutting food stamps to the military? You do realize many in the military are on food stamps?
God, forbid the poor try to stand up for themselves.
Bravo, you guys should be so proud!

The military performs a service for all of us, while the only service most food-stamp recipients perform is squirting out more and more food-stamp recipients.

 

[Lasher]

Bottomline - food stamps simply should not exist. federal food aid to distressed individuals should not exist. Food aid should be a private affair or at most an activity of State governments and then provided as commodities or soup kitchens.

Such should be the case with all forms of welfare.

I would like to see all the new Republicans run on that message.

The takers are now outnumbering the givers.

 

[JBeukema]

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Do you think anyone should get food stamps?

If so, who and based on what criteria?

If you are not physically able to work, such as bed ridden You should get food stamps, if you are old you should get food stamps. If you have lost a job that is not fault of your own you should get food stamps.
But if you have the latest cell phone, cable TV, internet, do not submit your week money expenditure to social services you do not get anything. Because if you have the money for all that stuff you have the money to buy food.

That’s the price I would enforce for those receiving food stamps.

Fair enough... but your suggestions amount to reform not political targeting.

BTW, who gets to decide this one "If you have lost a job that is not fault of your own you should get food stamps."

The ESC, as a matter of fact thats's how it's done now for unemployment checks

 

[Momanohedhunter]

It is an example of how people working together collectively be more successful in a capitalistic system. Of course many Republicans would love to get rid of unions because they are pro-business not pro free market.

Well grown up people working collectively should be mature enough to sock their money and their food away for when the day comes they wish to strike. Don't expect we the taxpayers to support you if you CHOOSE not to work.

We could have an honest debate on how to reform or even eliminate food stamps but that isn't what this is. This is having the government pick winners and losers based on politics... I thought you conservatives were against that?

Try and look at the big picture... would you want to deny food stamps to Christians because they refuse to work on the sabbath? or someone that quite a job for ethical reasons?

Food stamps are the lowest most basic social safety net there is and if you start politicizing it will become a huge mess like the tax code.

Just base it on need and feed the hungry. Don't use food as a political weapon.

First, the thing about Christians, food stamps and the Sabbath is just dumb. First off, you can not be denied food stamps on the grounds of race, religeion, or sexual oreintation. That is agenst the law. Second, Christians will rarely go hungrey because there churches will feed them. food stamps were never ment as a "social safty net" They were ment to get a person along until they got working. Thees days you have second and third generation food stamp users who have been trained by the Govrenment to not work. Now for your comment on That lard ass Trumpka, He is filthy rich. He surley can spare some change for his strikeing union brothers and sisters cant he ? So no, A strikeing union worker should not be supported by the tax payer.

 

[Immanuel]

You never quit a job until you have something to go to and thats including starting your own business. It's a cold world provide for yourself or you die.

Do you think anyone should get food stamps?

If so, who and based on what criteria?

Me personally, I have no problem with Welfare. I honestly believe our first priority should be to take care of our own and then help out the rest of the world. That being said, I do not believe people should receive Food Stamps while they chose to be on strike. Giving them Welfare to strike reduces their willingness to negotiate.

Immie

 

[Skull Pilot]

What if you can't because idiots like you refuse to let people work and earn honest income?

Idiots like who? Who is refusing to let people work and earn an honest income?

Skull has said before he refuses to give people a chance to work an honest job if they shot someone who broke in their house in a state that doesn't have Castle Doctrine laws in place. He wants them to rob him or let their children starve instead.

If you're going to quote me, then link to it.

For one a criminals kids aren't "starving" because of me. I have no obligation to hire a thief. Why don't you hire him to tend your business. While you're at it hire a rapist to watch your little girls too.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Ask him yourself.

Skull, do you hire felons?

It is a felony, after all, to shoot someone who breaks into your house if the State decides your life wasn't in danger and you don't live in a Castle Doctrine state.

No I don't and neither do banks, insurance companies, investment firms, day care centers and many many others.

Would you hire a felon if an equally capable law abiding person applied to work for you? You're a moron if you would.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Someone tries to steal your car and you taze him? He has a heart condition and dies? Easy to get hit with manslaughter. Truck attorney cause you can't afford a six-digit lawyer? Bam, you're a felon.

Skull doesn't think you should ever be allowed to earn an honest paycheck

I didn't say that. There are a lot of people that would hire a felon. i have no obligation to hire him.

Why don't you rail against all those industries I listed that don't hire felons. I only have 10 employees.

Would you want a convicted felon managing your money?

And besides, this thread is not about felons. It's about people who already have a job yet refuse to work and whether or not we should feed them while they sit on their asses

 

[bornright]

Which corporation is trying to rule us? Which one do we want ruling us?

My guess: You can't name this non-existant all powerful corporation.

I actually believe there are large corporations trying to rule us.....LARGE MEDIA CORPORATIONS.

That really doesnt answer the question.

It was not my intention to answer all questions. You asked which corporation is trying to rule us and I gave you my answer. Frankly I don't want any Corporation or Government ruling me.

 

[Momanohedhunter]

You never quit a job until you have something to go to and thats including starting your own business. It's a cold world provide for yourself or you die.

Do you think anyone should get food stamps?

If so, who and based on what criteria?

Ther is a criteria for getting them. There is also criteria for how much you get acording to your income and family size. I did not see what state this waf for but it will give you an idea.-

New SNAP/Food Stamp Rules
This list starts with the most recent rule changes first. You can also look up DTA regulations on their website by clicking here. (Choose "DTA Regulations" at the bottom of the page.)

October 2009

Modification of Face-to-Face Interview Regulation
The Department of Transitional Assistance (DTA) has modified the current regulation to document hardship when conducting a telephone interview. All interviews will now take place over the telephone, for both new applications and recertifications, unless an applicant prefers to have a face-to-face interview. DTA has also eliminated the interview requirement at recertification for certain elderly and/or disabled households if

The recertification is returned on time;
The required verifications are submitted to the local office in the established deadline;
The household’s continued eligibility for SNAP is confirmed.
Households that fail to provide the required verifications, or appear to be no longer eligible, will still be required to take part in an interview as part of the certification process.


April 2009


Because of the new law called American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009, you will be getting more Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (food stamp) benefits. You will get more benefits starting in April 2009. The extra benefits will be added to your EBT card automatically. You do not need to call your case manager. To find out how much is in your account, call 1-800-997-2555 to get your balance.


2008 Farm Bill Changes


Below are some of the changes to the SNAP/Food Stamp Program as of October 2008


Name Change. The name of the SNAP/Food Stamp Program has been changed to the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP). The change will be phased in gradually. Each state has the option of using the new name or creating its own name.


Standard Deduction
The standard deduction of $134 has increased to $144 in October and will be indexed to inflation starting in FY2010.


Dependent Care Deduction- The cap on the dependent care deduction has been eliminated, allowing working families with children to deduct the entire amount of child care expenses when calculating eligibility and benefit levels. This could make a big difference since the current limit for the deduction is $175-$200 per month, per child, and many families pay significantly more than that.


Minimum Benefit- The $10 minimum benefit has increased to $16 in April 2009 and thereafter will be indexed to 8 percent of the cost of the maximum allotment for a household of one.


Retirement and Education Accounts- Most education and retirement accounts like IRAs will be excluded from consideration as assets. Although Massachusetts has already eliminated asset limits for most households, this change in the federal regulations may help those seniors whose incomes are above 200% of poverty threshold and therefore subject to asset limits.


Accrual of Benefits- Currently states can move benefits off-line after three months if they have not have been accessed and can expunge benefits that have not been accessed by the household after one year. Under the new law states must notify households if their benefits are moved off-line and make the benefits available within 48 hours upon the request of a household. Benefits will be expunged after 12 months if not accessed.


Codification of Access Rules-- States will be required to comply with USDA rules requiring bilingual personnel and material in areas in which a substantial number of low-income household members speak a language other than English.


ABWD Time Limit Rule Modified
DTA has received a waiver from the USDA that will allow more Able Bodied Adults Without Dependents (ABAWDS) to participate in the SNAP/Food Stamp Program. Prior to the waiver, ABAWDS were required to work or do community service. Those who were not able to comply could only receive food stamps for three months. As a result many people who had difficulty finding or retaining a job or community service placement lost their food stamp benefits after three months. Now more people will be able to continue to receive food stamps as long as they meet other eligibility requirements.
The waiver is specifically for areas of the state that have high unemployment and therefore fewer opportunities for jobs or community service. Although the waiver does not apply to the whole state, DTA has instituted a procedure for workers to exempt individuals who they deem to have a barrier to employment or community service placement so that they too can continue to receive food stamps. Those who don't appear to have a barrier to employment may still be subject to the SNAP/Food Stamps Work Program Requirement.


June 2008


Asset Test Eliminated for Most Households
For most low-income households, assets are not considered in determining SNAP eligibility. Assets are only considered when households contain a member who is over 60 or disabled and the gross income exceeds the low-income criteria. For more information about assets for people over 60 or disabled, click on “Who Uses SNAP/Food Stamps” and scroll toTable C - Asset Guidelines for Households with Members over 60 or Disabled. As of June 9, 2008, DTA no longer counts money in the bank, a car, retirement accounts, your home or other assets. For more specific information, please call the Food Source Hotline at 1-800-645-8333.

DTA Opens New Satellite Offices and Outreach Centers
DTA has opened 4 new full-service satellite offices in areas affected by the office closings over the past several years. The satellite offices are located in Athol, Northampton, Somerville and Waltham, and will provide a full range of DTA services. In addition, DTA has created food stamp outreach centers in Boston, Lynn, Chelsea and Fall River. These centers are located within senior centers, health centers and other local organizations.


Certain Iraqi and Afghan Non-Citizens Eligible for Short-Term Food Stamps
Certain Afghan and Iraqi non-citizens with special immigrant status and their family members may be eligible to receive SNAP/food stamps for a period of up to six months (for Afghans) or eight months (for Iraqis). After this period, they are subject to the five-year bar on receipt of SNAP/food stamps unless they are eligible for benefits under another qualified non-citizen status. (DTA Field Operations Memo 2008-26)


Work Requirement Exemptions
DTA recently clarified some of the exemptions from work requirements in the SNAP/Food Stamp Work Program (FS/WP) and the SNAP/Food Stamp Employment and Training Program (FS/ET). A person who is responsible for the care of a dependent child under age 6 or of someone who is incapacitated is exempt from both the FS/ET and the FS/WP. The person does not have to be living in the same household as the dependent child or the incapacitated person. A person who is residing in a home where a household member is under age 18 is exempt from the FS/WP. The person does not have to be related to or responsible for the household member under 18, nor does the household member under 18 have to be receiving SNAP/food stamp benefits.


Standardized Certification Periods for Seniors and Disabled Clients
SNAP/Food Stamp households in which all adult household members are seniors (60+) or disabled will now be automatically assigned a 24-month certification period, at application or their next re-certification. While there are a few exceptions, such as self-employed households and households with unstable circumstances, this will significantly reduce the paperwork both for the DTA worker and the recipient.


Economic Stimulus Bill
Many people have asked how the federal economic stimulus payment will affect SNAP/food stamp recipients/applicants. The stimulus payment is non-countable as income and non-countable as an asset for the month in which it is received and the following two months. Thereafter, any money held as cash and/or as an asset is countable.



And the link- New Food Stamp Rules