No due process for illegals???

[M14 Shooter]

^^^ Subverted demoralized zombie.

Person who is obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief, opinion, or faction, especially one who is prejudiced against or antagonistic toward a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group.

 

[kyzr]

Nowhere does the Constitution limit due process to citizens only

Nowhere

Not a problem
Step-1 give illegal a hearing date, due process box checked
Step-2 deport him as per "Remain-in-Mexico"

 

[Edgetho]

Nowhere does the Constitution limit due process to citizens only

Nowhere

Fourteenth Amendment​

Fourteenth Amendment Explained

Section 1​

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

 

[WEATHER53]

Fourteenth Amendment​

Fourteenth Amendment Explained

Section 1​

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

They could not have anticipated that a “person born” here would originate from a woman illegally here. Since such a situation was non existent at the time of the writing then no protection is afforded

 

[Lesh]

Fourteenth Amendment​

Fourteenth Amendment Explained

Section 1​

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Deprive any person… not any citizen

 

[kyzr]

Fourteenth Amendment​

Fourteenth Amendment Explained

Section 1​

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

One interpretation is that "person" was used to include female citizens, instead of using the word "man".

 

[Edgetho]

One interpretation is that "person" was used to include female citizens, instead of using the word "man".

In some cases, like Apportionment, the Constitution doesn't differentiate between Citizen and non citizen.

But it seems pretty clear that the 14th, which is used by our High Priests (which is why they wear robes, doncha know) to demand 'Dew Percess' makes it clear that it applies to Citizens only.

In the Constituional process, when amenments conflict, the latest one takes precendence, AFAIK. And the 14th came several decades after the 5th.

It seems to make clear that 'Dew Process' applies to Citizens only. Not sure I agree with it. What about Sons and Daughters, families of diplomats? Foreign Sailors? Foreign Visitors??

Maybe their rights are spelled out somewhere else. Probably are, but those screaming about "Constipational Rights!!" don't seem to have a firm grasp of them.

I hate legal threads. They're worse than Religion threads or Gay Buttsex threads. It's all opinion.

Sometimes I think the Druids had it right.

 

[Harry Dresden]

You’re not deporting them. You’re illegally trafficking them to a gulag in El Salvador.

Illegal aliens get due process in this country all the time. They are arrested. Mirandized. Given trials by juries. Sentenced. All consistent with the constitution.

You’re obviously full of shit.

did the ones the other presidents kicked out get all that?...

 

[Marener]

did the ones the other presidents kicked out get all that?...

Other presidents didn’t send aliens to a foreign gulag.

 

[WEATHER53]

Other presidents didn’t send aliens to a foreign gulag.

They sent them and where the receiving nation puts them is up to the receiving nation
We have Zero obligation to prevent and protect illegals from doing things to them self that harms them . Nor are we to bend over backwards once they have

 

[d0gbreath]

Other presidents didn’t send aliens to a foreign gulag.

It used to be that deportees were dropped off to be free in their home countries. This torture chamber gulag in El Salvador sounds like a death camp.

 

[Edgetho]

It used to be that deportees were dropped off to be free in their home countries. This torture chamber gulag in El Salvador sounds like a death camp.

Your point being.......

 

[Marener]

They sent them and where the receiving nation puts them is up to the receiving nation
We have Zero obligation to prevent and protect illegals from doing things to them self that harms them . Nor are we to bend over backwards once they have

Trump made an agreement and is paying El Salvador to keep them in their gulag.

So Trump is VERY much responsible.

 

[WEATHER53]

Trump made an agreement and is paying El Salvador to keep them in their gulag.

So Trump is VERY much responsible.

No such stipulation about the illegals accommodations was made

 

[Marener]

No such stipulation about the illegals accommodations was made

It absolutely was the agreement.

El Salvador offers to house violent US criminals and deportees of any nationality in unprecedented deal with Trump administration | CNN

El Salvador has agreed to house violent US criminals and receive deportees of any nationality, US Secretary of State Marco Rubio announced Monday, in an unprecedented – and legally problematic deal – that has alarmed critics and rights groups.

amp.cnn.com

 

[WEATHER53]

It absolutely was the agreement.

El Salvador offers to house violent US criminals and deportees of any nationality in unprecedented deal with Trump administration | CNN

El Salvador has agreed to house violent US criminals and receive deportees of any nationality, US Secretary of State Marco Rubio announced Monday, in an unprecedented – and legally problematic deal – that has alarmed critics and rights groups.

amp.cnn.com

That is not a response to what I said. You maintain Trump directed the criminal invader to be put in a terrible prison . The facts are El Salvador also had problems with the guy so they placed him where they chose to.

 

[Marener]

That is not a response to what I said. You maintain Trump directed the criminal invader to be put in a terrible prison . The facts are El Salvador also had problems with the guy so they placed him where they chose to.

You think Garcia is the only one sent to the gulag in El Salvador?

 

[Concerned American]

Other presidents didn’t send aliens to a foreign gulag.

Hmmm, I guess those aliens that were sent to Gitmo will be happy to hear that. LMAO

 

[Marener]

Hmmm, I guess those aliens that were sent to Gitmo will be happy to hear that. LMAO

Guantanamo is under US jurisdiction. It’s not foreign.

Jesus Christ. Read a book.

 

[Foxfyre]

Libs Love the house break in analogy so let’s play their game
Someone breaks into my house and is still in there when police arrive. There is No Trial . He is removed.

Wow. This is honestly the best argument on this topic I've seen yet. Kudos!!!!