No better time to leave the Trump cult?

No but Biden did by driving up the cost of oil.
Democrats will say what they want to be true as if it was true and make absurd statements like you just made, Lets look at what democrats support
Crime illegals open borders Marxist dictators gender absurdity expensive energy massive government Marxist mayors
Can't address the question?

Trump is doing things the same way that Putin is doing things. DO YOU APPROVE OF PUTIN?

This is not about Biden or the Democrats. It is about Trump and about Putin! why then do you deflect and avoid answering such a simple question?
 
No but Biden did by driving up the cost of oil.
Democrats will say what they want to be true as if it was true and make absurd statements like you just made, Lets look at what democrats support
Crime illegals open borders Marxist dictators gender absurdity expensive energy massive government Marxist mayors
Have you seen gas prices lately? Back up to $3 a gallon.

Your response is typical. Ask you about one particular issue and you guys start going off on Marx, trannies, woke and borders.
 
Can hardly wait until Trump allows the mullahs to built an Air Base............Oh' wait...........


Hegseth announces Qatar will build air force facility at U.S. ...

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Oct 10, 2025 — Washington — Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth on Friday announced a finalized agreement that will allow the Qatari Emiri Air Force to build a
acility at the Mountain Home Air Force Base in Idaho.

The agreement, which Hegseth announced alongside Qatari Minister of Defense Sheikh Saoud bin Abdulrahman Al Thani at the Pentagon, will allow Qatari pilots to receive training alongside U.S. soldiers.
This raised my eyebrows as well , We may not know why, but we know that Trump is America first. He is definitely not a subversive, malevolent, lying, evil Democrat who wants to harm the United States for power . So there is that.
 
This raised my eyebrows as well , We may not know why, but we know that Trump is America first. He is definitely not a subversive, malevolent, lying, evil Democrat who wants to harm the United States for power . So there is that.

Trump bet $40B on Milei, but what do Americans get out of it?​

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Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent announced Wednesday that the U.S. would be doubling the assistance it is marshaling for Argentina from $20 billion to $40 billion.

The increase comes ahead of legislative elections on October 26 that will elect half the lower house and one-third of the upper house, and represents an increasingly strenuous effort in Washington to bolster Argentine President Javier Milei financially and politically.
 
According to Mr. Newberger, there is no better time to leave Trump's cult


Since we're talking about a purely hypothetical situation as there is not cult, there's a world of possibilities out there.
 

Trump bet $40B on Milei, but what do Americans get out of it?

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Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent announced Wednesday that the U.S. would be doubling the assistance it is marshaling for Argentina from $20 billion to $40 billion.

The increase comes ahead of legislative elections on October 26 that will elect half the lower house and one-third of the upper house, and represents an increasingly strenuous effort in Washington to bolster Argentine President Javier Milei financially and politically.
You are just flailing now because you've lost. Cool
 
Since we're talking about a purely hypothetical situation as there is not cult, there's a world of possibilities out there.
Hold on a second. Not in a cult?

Wrong!

Here are the guidelines for a cu.t"
  • Authoritarian Leadership: A single leader or small group is the ultimate authority, claims unique knowledge or divinity, and is not accountable to anyone else. Criticism or questioning of the leader is forbidden. Trump has shown himself to be exactly that!
  • Isolation: Members are pressured to cut ties with family, friends, and the outside world to become dependent on the group. Access to outside information is restricted, and external media sources are often censored or dismissed as biased. Much of this is happening now
  • Control and Manipulation: The group dictates numerous aspects of members' lives, including personal choices, finances, relationships, sleep patterns, and diet. Guilt, shame, fear, and emotional manipulation are used to maintain conformity and prevent members from leaving. All of this is happening under Trump
  • Exclusivity and Elitism: The group promotes an "us vs. them" mentality, believing it possesses the "only truth" or a special mission to save humanity. Former members are often demonized or shunned. This is 100% true under Trump!
  • Lack of Transparency: There is no meaningful financial disclosure, and internal problems or abuse are kept secret from the public and external agencies. No transparency is happening under Trump. All lies and misinformation

"If it looks like duck, swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, it MUST BE a duck"!
 
Hold on a second. Not in a cult?

Wrong!

Here are the guidelines for a cu.t"
  • Authoritarian Leadership: A single leader or small group is the ultimate authority, claims unique knowledge or divinity, and is not accountable to anyone else. Criticism or questioning of the leader is forbidden. Trump has shown himself to be exactly that!
  • Isolation: Members are pressured to cut ties with family, friends, and the outside world to become dependent on the group. Access to outside information is restricted, and external media sources are often censored or dismissed as biased. Much of this is happening now
  • Control and Manipulation: The group dictates numerous aspects of members' lives, including personal choices, finances, relationships, sleep patterns, and diet. Guilt, shame, fear, and emotional manipulation are used to maintain conformity and prevent members from leaving. All of this is happening under Trump
  • Exclusivity and Elitism: The group promotes an "us vs. them" mentality, believing it possesses the "only truth" or a special mission to save humanity. Former members are often demonized or shunned. This is 100% true under Trump!
  • Lack of Transparency: There is no meaningful financial disclosure, and internal problems or abuse are kept secret from the public and external agencies. No transparency is happening under Trump. All lies and misinformation

"If it looks like duck, swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, it MUST BE a duck"!
When you act stupid and say stupid things you must be stupid!
 
Hold on a second. Not in a cult?

Wrong!

Here are the guidelines for a cu.t"
  • Authoritarian Leadership: A single leader or small group is the ultimate authority, claims unique knowledge or divinity, and is not accountable to anyone else. Criticism or questioning of the leader is forbidden. Trump has shown himself to be exactly that!
He issues orders to no one, no one is compelled to obey his leadership (other than what all Americans are compelled to do, you know, because he is all Americans' president), so no.
  • Isolation: Members are pressured to cut ties with family, friends, and the outside world to become dependent on the group. Access to outside information is restricted, and external media sources are often censored or dismissed as biased. Much of this is happening now
No, not happening. I see no one being compelled to cut ties with family and friends. Now I HAVE some left wingers get so ginned up with hate that they refuse to be around family members who dared to vote for TRUMP! but nothing the other way, so no.
  • Control and Manipulation: The group dictates numerous aspects of members' lives, including personal choices, finances, relationships, sleep patterns, and diet. Guilt, shame, fear, and emotional manipulation are used to maintain conformity and prevent members from leaving. All of this is happening under Trump
Again, not seeing any of that going on. Maybe you're referring to the way the left treats those who disagree as if they have a disease or something, so no.
  • Exclusivity and Elitism: The group promotes an "us vs. them" mentality, believing it possesses the "only truth" or a special mission to save humanity. Former members are often demonized or shunned. This is 100% true under Trump!
Well, it is true that the left considers itself to be the sole arbiter of right and wrong, often totally reversing themselves in a short amount of time (see Schumer's about face re the Venezuelan leader), and of course we see them on this board arrogantly insisting they are correct while everyone else is wrong, so sure, we see that going on, but that could as easily be the cult of Joe Biden.
  • Lack of Transparency: There is no meaningful financial disclosure, and internal problems or abuse are kept secret from the public and external agencies. No transparency is happening under Trump. All lies and misinformation

"If it looks like duck, swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, it MUST BE a duck"!
And I will remain opaque to you. You simply cannot see what's going on in my life because I don't want you to. No one is telling me to hide that, it's my decision.

So, ultimately, if there's a TRUMP! cult, it's not around here for sure. But hey, hold onto that. I hear it helps when the voices get too loud.
 
Hold on a second. Not in a cult?

Wrong!

Here are the guidelines for a cu.t"
  • Authoritarian Leadership: A single leader or small group is the ultimate authority, claims unique knowledge or divinity, and is not accountable to anyone else. Criticism or questioning of the leader is forbidden. Trump has shown himself to be exactly that!
I disagree with Trump all the time, for example on the tariffs, and so does every other Trump supporter. No one follows Trump blindly or supports all of his positions.

  • Isolation: Members are pressured to cut ties with family, friends, and the outside world to become dependent on the group. Access to outside information is restricted, and external media sources are often censored or dismissed as biased. Much of this is happening now
Polls have shown that those on the left are far more likely to cut ties with those on the right than the other way around.

  • Control and Manipulation: The group dictates numerous aspects of members' lives, including personal choices, finances, relationships, sleep patterns, and diet. Guilt, shame, fear, and emotional manipulation are used to maintain conformity and prevent members from leaving. All of this is happening under Trump
What in the world are you talking about? I've never once been pressured to support Trump. In fact, here in the SF Bay area, you learn to hide your support for Trump because leftists will angrily guilt and shame you for it!

  • Exclusivity and Elitism: The group promotes an "us vs. them" mentality, believing it possesses the "only truth" or a special mission to save humanity. Former members are often demonized or shunned. This is 100% true under Trump!
Both sides are locked in an "us vs. them" mentality. Such are the times.

  • Lack of Transparency: There is no meaningful financial disclosure, and internal problems or abuse are kept secret from the public and external agencies. No transparency is happening under Trump. All lies and misinformation
Trump is the most transparent presidency in history. Trump famously has no filter and will say whatever he is thinking at the moment. It's part of his charm although it gets him in trouble much of the time. And I have to remind you the previous admin LIED THROUGH ITS TEETH about running a brain dead vegetable for president.

"If it looks like duck, swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, it MUST BE a duck"!
 
I disagree with Trump all the time, for example on the tariffs, and so does every other Trump supporter. No one follows Trump blindly or supports all of his positions.


Polls have shown that those on the left are far more likely to cut ties with those on the right than the other way around.


What in the world are you talking about? I've never once been pressured to support Trump. In fact, here in the SF Bay area, you learn to hide your support for Trump because leftists will angrily guilt and shame you for it!


Both sides are locked in an "us vs. them" mentality. Such are the times.


Trump is the most transparent presidency in history. Trump famously has no filter and will say whatever he is thinking at the moment. It's part of his charm although it gets him in trouble much of the time. And I have to remind you the previous admin LIED THROUGH ITS TEETH about running a brain dead vegetable for president.
Luckyone seems to prey on the ignorant.
 
I disagree with Trump all the time, for example on the tariffs, and so does every other Trump supporter. No one follows Trump blindly or supports all of his positions.
What? I have put 57 people on ignore here because I ca show them facts and they never address them and BLINDLY belhieve what Trump stated as truth
Polls have shown that those on the left are far more likely to cut ties with those on the right than the other way around.

The right is unwilling to compromise. The left have always shown willingness to do do
What in the world are you talking about? I've never once been pressured to support Trump. In fact, here in the SF Bay area, you learn to hide your support for Trump because leftists will angrily guilt and shame you for it!

Then why are people that disagree with Trump are immediately fired by him. Why are people on this board immediately indulted and debased when they disagree?
Both sides are locked in an "us vs. them" mentality. Such are the times.

Yes, because the Right never is willing to compromise, forcing the left to do the same

You
Trump is the most transparent presidency in history. Trump famously has no filter and will say whatever he is thinking at the moment. It's part of his charm although it gets him in trouble much of the time. And I have to remind you the previous admin LIED THROUGH ITS TEETH about running a brain dead vegetable for president.
You call a proven pathological liar transparent?

There is now NO DOUBT that you are a member of the cult. This post proves it!
 
He issues orders to no one, no one is compelled to obey his leadership (other than what all Americans are compelled to do, you know, because he is all Americans' president), so no.

No, not happening. I see no one being compelled to cut ties with family and friends. Now I HAVE some left wingers get so ginned up with hate that they refuse to be around family members who dared to vote for TRUMP! but nothing the other way, so no.

Again, not seeing any of that going on. Maybe you're referring to the way the left treats those who disagree as if they have a disease or something, so no.

Well, it is true that the left considers itself to be the sole arbiter of right and wrong, often totally reversing themselves in a short amount of time (see Schumer's about face re the Venezuelan leader), and of course we see them on this board arrogantly insisting they are correct while everyone else is wrong, so sure, we see that going on, but that could as easily be the cult of Joe Biden.

And I will remain opaque to you. You simply cannot see what's going on in my life because I don't want you to. No one is telling me to hide that, it's my decision.

So, ultimately, if there's a TRUMP! cult, it's not around here for sure. But hey, hold onto that. I hear it helps when the voices get too loud.
See post #130
 
See post #130
That is a supporter, but it says nothing about me belonging to a cult, or how many people are in it, or what the membership criteria are. I mean, if you're going to go with something an individual says or does to prove a cult exists and that random people are in it, would you like to see a schoolteacher leading her students in singing praises to Obama, or maybe a black leader calling him the Messiah? That was quite entertaining, and I'm glad that now we are at liberty to cite them as proof of the Obama cult.
 
That is a supporter, but it says nothing about me belonging to a cult, or how many people are in it, or what the membership criteria are. I mean, if you're going to go with something an individual says or does to prove a cult exists and that random people are in it, would you like to see a schoolteacher leading her students in singing praises to Obama, or maybe a black leader calling him the Messiah? That was quite entertaining, and I'm glad that now we are at liberty to cite them as proof of the Obama cult.
Believing and following someone (singing praises) does not make it a cult. Believing blindly (with facts supporting the opposite) and following that person 100% (without questioning anything he does is the definition of a cult.

I feel sorry to say, but you do fit that definition.
 
15th post
What? I have put 57 people on ignore here because I ca show them facts and they never address them and BLINDLY belhieve what Trump stated as truth


The right is unwilling to compromise. The left have always shown willingness to do do


Then why are people that disagree with Trump are immediately fired by him. Why are people on this board immediately indulted and debased when they disagree?


Yes, because the Right never is willing to compromise, forcing the left to do the same

You

You call a proven pathological liar transparent?

There is now NO DOUBT that you are a member of the cult. This post proves it!
What? I have put 57 people on ignore here because I ca show them facts and they never address them and BLINDLY belhieve what Trump stated as truth
You have these people on ignore because you are afraid they will prove you wrong as they always do.
I have no one on ignore and welcome all Challengers.
The right is unwilling to compromise. The left have always shown willingness to do do
Not from my point of view
Then why are people that disagree with Trump are immediately fired by him. Why are people on this board immediately indulted and debased when they disagree?
This is a lie. You FAGAts are the kings of debasing people
Yes, because the Right never is willing to compromise, forcing the left to do the same
Look at the last government shutdown. Where was the Democrat compromise there? It didn't exist, it's always your way or the highway.
You call a proven pathological liar transparent?

There is now NO DOUBT that you are a member of the cult. This post proves it!
Trump tells it like it is. No Lie
 
What? I have put 57 people on ignore here because I ca show them facts and they never address them and BLINDLY belhieve what Trump stated as truth
Apples and oranges. You may well put people on ignore because they believe Trump over you on some issues, but that's not the same thing as saying they believe Trump on EVERYTHING. Name any person who you put on ignore because you think they BLINDLY believe what Trump states as truth and I guarantee I will find an issue where they disagree with Trump.

The right is unwilling to compromise. The left have always shown willingness to do do
More apples and oranges. First you argue that Trump supporters feel "pressured" to cut ties, and when pressed you subtly morph that into "unwilling" to compromise and no mention of cutting ties.

So which is it? Are we pressured or just unwilling? Pick a story and stick to it.

Then why are people that disagree with Trump are immediately fired by him. Why are people on this board immediately indulted and debased when they disagree?
More apples and oranges. You are an orchard of moving target arguments!

If you work for Trump, you are obligated to follow his policies. If you can't do that, then you should move on and find an employer who more closely aligns with your principles. That's not even CLOSE to your original claim that Trump supporters feel pressured to not disagree with him.

And MOST on this board immediately insult and debase each other at the first opportunity. What that even has to do with feeling pressured to support Trump I cannot fathom. You are just throwing crap against the wall and seeing what sticks.

Yes, because the Right never is willing to compromise, forcing the left to do the same
It takes two to compromise. But right now, the right has no need to compromise. We won in 24.

There is now NO DOUBT that you are a member of the cult. This post proves it!
Right. I'm a cultist who publicly disagrees with my cult leader. When the other guy starts making the discussion personal, that's when I know I won.

Not that it was any great battle of wits. Your arguments were confused, contradictory, incoherent and above all false.

Have a great day.
 
Apples and oranges. You may well put people on ignore because they believe Trump over you on some issues, but that's not the same thing as saying they believe Trump on EVERYTHING. Name any person who you put on ignore because you think they BLINDLY believe what Trump states as truth and I guarantee I will find an issue where they disagree with Trump.

I love debating. It is what made me what I am, by seeking knowledge and becoming a better person able to cope with life's painful realities. As such, I totally welcome someone that will debate with me using data, statistics and facts. When I am "proven" wrong, I not only acknowledge it but thank the person for being able to make me see something I did not know or know correctly.

As such, each and every person I have put on ignore (after giving them countless of chances) has been someone that never debates with data, statistics, and facts, always insulted or debased me (being the messenger of news they did not want to hear), constantly deflected (never debated or addressed the fact). I am not here to waste my time but to make people aware of the facts as I see them or learn new facts. Those that failed to do that, were put on ignore.
More apples and oranges. First you argue that Trump supporters feel "pressured" to cut ties, and when pressed you subtly morph that into "unwilling" to compromise and no mention of cutting ties.

So which is it? Are we pressured or just unwilling? Pick a story and stick to it.

I just put up an OP that addresses this. Here is the link:

Under Trump, things are getting out of hand. Much of what he promised has worked the opposite way.
More apples and oranges. You are an orchard of moving target arguments!

If you work for Trump, you are obligated to follow his policies. If you can't do that, then you should move on and find an employer who more closely aligns with your principles. That's not even CLOSE to your original claim that Trump supporters feel pressured to not disagree with him.
Are you saying that loyalty (not competence) is what is needed in the government? That if your knowledge and experience is telling you that something is being done the wrong way, that you keep quiet and are "obligated to follow his policies"?

And MOST on this board immediately insult and debase each other at the first opportunity. What that even has to do with feeling pressured to support Trump I cannot fathom. You are just throwing crap against the wall and seeing what sticks.

This is "supposed to be" a debate board where politics are debated/discussed. If someone immediately insults and insults, they are not supposed to be here. If they are here though and they do debase and insult from the get go, it means that they believe blindly what they believe and will do so no matter what.
It takes two to compromise. But right now, the right has no need to compromise. We won in 24.
The Constitution and the 3 branches of government plus the Supreme Court were put there for compromise among all the States and all Americans is achiever. Not having to compromise means that the current administration is trying to do things "my way or the highway" and that is not Democracy but Dictatorship.
Right. I'm a cultist who publicly disagrees with my cult leader. When the other guy starts making the discussion personal, that's when I know I won.

Not that it was any great battle of wits. Your arguments were confused, contradictory, incoherent and above all false.

Have a great day.
 
Name any person who you put on ignore because you think they BLINDLY believe what Trump states as truth and I guarantee I will find an issue where they disagree
To answer this specific question, here is someone that I put on ignore because exactly that, His nick is Muhamed

Trump is right. They are the enemy within.

OK Trump. You have the authority. Kill those motherfuckers! They gave you permission when they voted for the 2001 AUMF. They signed their own death warrants. Now do your job and kill them all.
 
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