No better time to leave the Trump cult?

[sealybobo]

Trump has already done what I had hoped he would do and perhaps his usefulness has run the course and the leftover milk is turning sour. But he served a purpose for me and America too. And yes, it is perhaps time to move on...from Trump, but not from MAGA. I've been predicting and saying that since 2018 or so. It's not really any less than I expected considering the state of the nation under the NWO Democrats before he even took office.

I was thinking that too. Close the border. Not let other countries take advantage of us. Re assert our power. But overall I totally disapprove. As I recall Biden was going to close the border and Trump told Mike Pence to not do it till after the election.

I don't like the EPA cuts. Maybe I like some of the government waste that was cut but it was so little. And Trump's spending more even after all the cuts. Pete, Trump, Noem, they are looting the US tax payers. The war is costing $1 billion a day. Who are we paying? Bomb makers? That's good if you have stock in their companies I guess. So I guess you can put a positive spin on it but not much. This all sucks. We would have been better off with Biden/Kamala.

Am I glad the USA is finally taking on Iran? Not really. Maybe we should have made friends with them like we did Saudi Arabia? Can you understand why they don't trust us or like us? Our President changes every 4 to 8 years. You can't trust what we say.

Trump has made enemies of our allies. Everyone is looking for new buyers. You don't know it yet but other countries are looking to other countries to buy the things they bought from us and to make up for us not buying from them. Unintended consesquences.

I sure hope there isn't a draft. Would you then admit you made a big mistake voting for this monster?

 

[sealybobo]

A cult? Nobody's trying to isolate me from friends and family, no one's trying to take all my resources, no one's trying to get me to worship them or follow them at all. Heck, there aren't even any bylaws or membership requirements.

Pretty anemic cult going on there. Are you sure you know what you're talking about?

Really? You're so blindly following this guy you don't see it. It's why I call you all Notsees. Aren't your friends and family in the cult too? So you have self isolated. I can't believe you just said that. lol. You're a hoot.

53% of Republicans viewed loyalty to Trump as central to their political identity, ranking higher than traditional values like a smaller federal government or opposing Democratic policies.

Some supporters, particularly within the evangelical, MAGA-aligned right, have compared Trump to a "savior" or a figure chosen by God to protect the nation.

Observers have described the phenomenon as a "Karnival Karisma Kult," where supporters see his actions, rule-breaking, and rhetoric as charismatic authority.

Instances such as the display of a golden statue of Trump at a CPAC rally have been cited as evidence of idolization.

Here are your arguments

Many Republicans who support Trump argue their loyalty is rooted in policy achievements (e.g., conservative judges, tax cuts) rather than personal idolization.

For some, support for Trump is seen as a necessary, albeit flawed, instrument for achieving broader political goals in a perceived "cultural war".

The phenomenon has been described by some as a "dangerous form of cultism" by critics, while others describe it as a "disgrace" to traditional conservative principles

 

[BothWings]

I was thinking that too. Close the border. Not let other countries take advantage of us. Re assert our power. But overall I totally disapprove. As I recall Biden was going to close the border and Trump told Mike Pence to not do it till after the election.

I don't like the EPA cuts. Maybe I like some of the government waste that was cut but it was so little. And Trump's spending more even after all the cuts. Pete, Trump, Noem, they are looting the US tax payers. The war is costing $1 billion a day. Who are we paying? Bomb makers? That's good if you have stock in their companies I guess. So I guess you can put a positive spin on it but not much. This all sucks. We would have been better off with Biden/Kamala.

Am I glad the USA is finally taking on Iran? Not really. Maybe we should have made friends with them like we did Saudi Arabia? Can you understand why they don't trust us or like us? Our President changes every 4 to 8 years. You can't trust what we say.

Trump has made enemies of our allies. Everyone is looking for new buyers. You don't know it yet but other countries are looking to other countries to buy the things they bought from us and to make up for us not buying from them. Unintended consesquences.

I sure hope there isn't a draft. Would you then admit you made a big mistake voting for this monster?

I do not believe we would have been better off with Biden Kamala and I believe it would have steadily gotten worse. I don't believe that Trump ever had a chance of creating a lasting regime. However idea and Kamala and were the latest installments of a long lasting regime. Both were the reserve force useful idiots of that regime after much more adept henchmen like Obama and Clinton and both Bushs had been at the helm and leave the groundwork. Trump's turned all that upside down, and I'm glad it did and I'm not sorry I voted for him. The American people are much wiser too the things that go on in our government now that he has been spent this much time in office. However I said it then and I say it now.....there and would be a time for him to go. No nice honest president would have succeeded in evicting the New World Order from American politics. And they still haven't been evicted but they have been effectively exposed before the entire United States population as far as I'm concerned. We need to continue with putting America first even if it means leaving Trump in the dust

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

I was thinking that too. Close the border. Not let other countries take advantage of us. Re assert our power. But overall I totally disapprove. As I recall Biden was going to close the border and Trump told Mike Pence to not do it till after the election.

I don't like the EPA cuts. Maybe I like some of the government waste that was cut but it was so little. And Trump's spending more even after all the cuts. Pete, Trump, Noem, they are looting the US tax payers.

I thought Botox Barbie was bad
Kegseth: "Hold my beer"...........

US military spent $9 million on crab legs and lobster in ...​

The Independent
https://www.the-independent.com › ... › US politics




1 hour ago — Hegseth also spent approximately $15.1 million on ribeye steak in September, $124,000 for new ice cream machines, and $139,224 on doughnut ...

Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth’s Pentagon apparently isn’t feeling the same affordability struggles as many average Americans, as he approved spending more than $93 billion in September, including on luxury food items and iPads.

The agency spent more money on furniture in 2025 than it has since 2014.

In February 2025, Hegseth said he welcomed a “Department of Government Efficiency” review of defense spending to help him find ways to reduce waste.

“We need to know when we spend dollars, we need to know where they’re going and why that simple accounting, and that has not existed at the Defense Department,” Hegseth told Fox News at the time. “We’re going to fix that.”

The war is costing $1 billion a day. Who are we paying? Bomb makers? That's good if you have stock in their companies I guess. So I guess you can put a positive spin on it but not much. This all sucks. We would have been better off with Biden/Kamala.

Am I glad the USA is finally taking on Iran? Not really. Maybe we should have made friends with them like we did Saudi Arabia? Can you understand why they don't trust us or like us? Our President changes every 4 to 8 years. You can't trust what we say.

Trump has made enemies of our allies. Everyone is looking for new buyers. You don't know it yet but other countries are looking to other countries to buy the things they bought from us and to make up for us not buying from them. Unintended consesquences.

I sure hope there isn't a draft. Would you then admit you made a big mistake voting for this monster?

 

[sealybobo]

I do not believe we would have been better off with Biden Kamala and I believe it would have steadily gotten worse. I don't believe that Trump ever had a chance of creating a lasting regime. However idea and Kamala and were the latest installments of a long lasting regime. Both were the reserve force useful idiots of that regime after much more adept henchmen like Obama and Clinton and both Bushs had been at the helm and leave the groundwork. Trump's turned all that upside down, and I'm glad it did and I'm not sorry I voted for him. The American people are much wiser too the things that go on in our government now that he has been spent this much time in office. However I said it then and I say it now.....there and would be a time for him to go. No nice honest president would have succeeded in evicting the New World Order from American politics. And they still haven't been evicted but they have been effectively exposed before the entire United States population as far as I'm concerned. We need to continue with putting America first even if it means leaving Trump in the dust

You voted back in a man who would clearly rip the US tax payers off if you ever let him back into power, take us to war, most believe he wants to leave a legacy. Stephen Miller and Steve Bannon. If you like these men, then you like what's going on.

I get it. You are a conservative and you like it that we stopped going left. I GET IT. But I think that's just pearl clutching bs we complain about when times are good. Just like you guys did under Clinton. The only thing wrong since REAGAN is that the rich have taken over our government. And since the late 70's they've been slowly but surely taking over our media and our government more and more and more. Now you admit at least they've gone too far. Well sorry but when you let a guy who tries to steal an election get back into power, you get all this.

Now is when I say I told you so. And don't complain because you voted for it.

Again, the only thing wrong in the last 5 decades is the rich are getting too rich and not paying enough taxes to fully run our society. And things are so bad for us we aren't having kids. You think $1000 is going to make people want to have kids? So you better let the browns back in because our boomers are dying every day.

How about a death tax. Half of your money if you have over $1 billion when you die.

If Trump didn't run for President, this is what he would have said about Biden/Kamala

"I think Bill Clinton was a great president,’" Trump said in the interview that was conducted shortly after the 2008 presidential election on NY1's "Inside City Hall" program.

"You know, you look at the country then. The economy was doing great. Look at what happened during the Clinton years. I mean we had no war, the economy was doing great, everybody was happy. A lot of people hated him because they were jealous as hell,’" Trump said.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

You voted back in a man who would clearly rip the US tax payers off if you ever let him back into power, take us to war, most believe he wants to leave a legacy. Stephen Miller and Steve Bannon. If you like these men, then you like what's going on.

I get it. You are a conservative and you like it that we stopped going left. I GET IT. But I think that's just pearl clutching bs we complain about when times are good. Just like you guys did under Clinton. The only thing wrong since REAGAN is that the rich have taken over our government.

That and he sold weapons to Iran, then gave the $$$ to another regime changer and lied about it.
A TRAITOR.

And since the late 70's they've been slowly but surely taking over our media and our government more and more and more. Now you admit at least they've gone too far. Well sorry but when you let a guy who tries to steal an election get back into power, you get all this.

The Heritage Foundation​

The Heritage Foundation
https://www.heritage.org




A research and educational institution whose mission is to build and promote conservative public policies, based in Washington, D.C.

More TRAITORS.

Now is when I say I told you so. And don't complain because you voted for it.

Again, the only thing wrong in the last 5 decades is the rich are getting too rich and not paying enough taxes to fully run our society. And things are so bad for us we aren't having kids. You think $1000 is going to make people want to have kids? So you better let the browns back in because our boomers are dying every day.

How about a death tax. Half of your money if you have over $1 billion when you die.

If Trump didn't run for President, this is what he would have said about Biden/Kamala

"I think Bill Clinton was a great president,’" Trump said in the interview that was conducted shortly after the 2008 presidential election on NY1's "Inside City Hall" program.

"You know, you look at the country then. The economy was doing great. Look at what happened during the Clinton years. I mean we had no war, the economy was doing great, everybody was happy. A lot of people hated him because they were jealous as hell,’" Trump said.

 

[BothWings]

You voted back in a man who would clearly rip the US tax payers off if you ever let him back into power, take us to war, most believe he wants to leave a legacy. Stephen Miller and Steve Bannon. If you like these men, then you like what's going on.

I get it. You are a conservative and you like it that we stopped going left. I GET IT. But I think that's just pearl clutching bs we complain about when times are good. Just like you guys did under Clinton. The only thing wrong since REAGAN is that the rich have taken over our government. And since the late 70's they've been slowly but surely taking over our media and our government more and more and more. Now you admit at least they've gone too far. Well sorry but when you let a guy who tries to steal an election get back into power, you get all this.

Now is when I say I told you so. And don't complain because you voted for it.

Again, the only thing wrong in the last 5 decades is the rich are getting too rich and not paying enough taxes to fully run our society. And things are so bad for us we aren't having kids. You think $1000 is going to make people want to have kids? So you better let the browns back in because our boomers are dying every day.

How about a death tax. Half of your money if you have over $1 billion when you die.

If Trump didn't run for President, this is what he would have said about Biden/Kamala

"I think Bill Clinton was a great president,’" Trump said in the interview that was conducted shortly after the 2008 presidential election on NY1's "Inside City Hall" program.

"You know, you look at the country then. The economy was doing great. Look at what happened during the Clinton years. I mean we had no war, the economy was doing great, everybody was happy. A lot of people hated him because they were jealous as hell,’" Trump said.

We have been ripped off and had our country given away for the past 35 years by people far more organized and with much deeper connections than Trump. That regime was basically founded by George HW Bush. It has been going strong and stronger ever since.... Until Trump came along. Trump thought that he could start his own regime. He's basically failed at it in just a few years. But his competition has gone batshit crazy and completely exposed himself trying to get rid of him. In the end Trump is getting rid of himself. The American people know much better what they are dealing with on both sides of the tracks as a result of Donald Trump being elected.

 

[Hollie]

DOGE baby. You're in a cult. Do you have the shoes too?

Curious you use the Cult reference when your ideology involves such notions as men gettting pregnant, that lopping off the body parts of children to “ transition” them to a different gender is anything but a mental illness.

 

[hadit]

Really? You're so blindly following this guy you don't see it. It's why I call you all Notsees. Aren't your friends and family in the cult too? So you have self isolated. I can't believe you just said that. lol. You're a hoot.

I haven't changed anything in my life from before TRUMP! came on the scene, I still hang around the same people that I did then, still talk to the same family members, etc. so no, you're simply wrong. I'm not any more isolated than I ever have been.

53% of Republicans viewed loyalty to Trump as central to their political identity, ranking higher than traditional values like a smaller federal government or opposing Democratic policies.

That's them, this is me. You can pretend there's some kind of cult going on, but that's on you. If you want to claim I'm in a cult, don't go spouting off on what other people say, deal with what I say.

Some supporters, particularly within the evangelical, MAGA-aligned right, have compared Trump to a "savior" or a figure chosen by God to protect the nation.

He was appointed by God, but then, so were Obama and Quid Pro Joe. God has His own reasons for appointing our leaders and I'm not going to guess why. If God wants to put America on a different track, that's His call.

Observers have described the phenomenon as a "Karnival Karisma Kult," where supporters see his actions, rule-breaking, and rhetoric as charismatic authority.

You could always ask what I think, but then, I'm already on record as saying TRUMP! is petty, egotistical, vengeful, uncouth and I would not want to either work for him or live with him, but that's not why we hired him to work for us.

Instances such as the display of a golden statue of Trump at a CPAC rally have been cited as evidence of idolization.

And, as I said, you could always just ask what I think. See, here's the thing, you don't get to on the one hand accuse me directly of being in a cult, then on the other cite other people as if that's who you were talking about.

Here are your arguments

Many Republicans who support Trump argue their loyalty is rooted in policy achievements (e.g., conservative judges, tax cuts) rather than personal idolization.

Okay, that's what they think. Did you ask what I think?

For some, support for Trump is seen as a necessary, albeit flawed, instrument for achieving broader political goals in a perceived "cultural war".

Again, that's what they think. Did you ask what I think?

The phenomenon has been described by some as a "dangerous form of cultism" by critics, while others describe it as a "disgrace" to traditional conservative principles

Like I've said, you accused me directly, now you're backpedaling into, "Well, others say it". You don't get to do that. If you're talking about me, deal with me. If you're talking about a bunch of other people, then don't directly accuse me. If you want to say there's a cult, feel free. If, OTOH, you want to say I'M in a cult, deal with what I have to say about it.

 

[Roudy]

DOGE baby. You're in a cult. Do you have the shoes too?

Actually you Leftist lunatics infected with TDS fit the definition of a cult.

 

[Roudy]

That and he sold weapons to Iran, then gave the $$$ to another regime changer and lied about it.
A TRAITOR.

The Heritage Foundation​

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The Heritage Foundation
https://www.heritage.org




A research and educational institution whose mission is to build and promote conservative public policies, based in Washington, D.C.

More TRAITORS.

Meh.

 

[deannalw]

Why is Donald Trump obsessed with giving away $145 men’s shoes?​

The shoe brand was once made famous by the King of Pop, Michael Jackson. Now the president is gifting them to cabinet secretaries and media allies.​

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“All the boys have them,” said a White House official. “It’s hysterical because everybody’s afraid not to wear them,”​

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the president has taken to guessing people’s shoe size in front of them, telling his aide to place an order, and, when the shoes arrive, Trump adds a personalized note as part of the ritual.​

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Back in December, during a meeting in the Oval Office, Trump pointed out that members of his staff did not pass the president’s shoe fashion test.​

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“Marco, JD, you guys have shitty shoes,” Trump declared. After giving the president their respective shoe sizes, Trump leaned back in his chair and said, “You know you can tell a lot about a man by his shoe size,” according to Vance.​

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Do you think JD gave him the correct shoe size?​

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Is this a cult?​

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The 39 members of the Heaven's Gate cult wore black and white Nike Decade gym shoes during their March 1997 mass suicide in California.​

Every time I think I've seen it all outta you- you reach levels of ridiculousness never before witnessed.

 

[sealybobo]

We have been ripped off and had our country given away for the past 35 years by people far more organized and with much deeper connections than Trump. That regime was basically founded by George HW Bush. It has been going strong and stronger ever since.... Until Trump came along. Trump thought that he could start his own regime. He's basically failed at it in just a few years. But his competition has gone batshit crazy and completely exposed himself trying to get rid of him. In the end Trump is getting rid of himself. The American people know much better what they are dealing with on both sides of the tracks as a result of Donald Trump being elected.

Actually, the crazy Republicans outnumber the normal ones. And the normal ones go along rather than vote Democratic. They think we're the nuts. You know, WOKE and all that crap. And open borders.

It's so funny it was them who defended illegal employers and jobs Americans won't do. At least those were the Bush Republicans. They liked the cheap labor. But the other half hates illegals. And to be honest, so do unions. So SO SHOULD DEMOCRATS but now they got Democrats defending santuary cities. I get why but they need to stop doing that. It's not popular. And there are plenty of illegals in Republicans states too.

In other words they talk out of both sides of their mouths.

OMG this Iran thing. This woman on CNN said it perfectly. Are Republican politicians fully on board with the Iran war? How come they haven't voted on it yet? So they are playing politics with soldiers lives and our money to distract us from Epstein? It was going to come out Bibi is in the Epstein files too. Epstein was an Israeli spy planted to get dirt on EVERYONE Democrats and Republicans alike. And CEO's. And Princes

 

[Mac1958]

According to Mr. Newberger, there is no better time to leave Trump's cult

LEAVING MAGA Support Group

 

[Luckyone]

According to Mr. Newberger, there is no better time to leave Trump's cult