No Benghazi Stand Down Order

[EvilCat Breath]

There were no criminal prosecutions over Benghazi because democrats including the FBI and CIA were covering for the criminals.

 

[easyt65]

Keep in mind, the temporary diplomatic mission in Benghazi was there because Ambassador Stevens put it there. It stayed there, after everyone else pulled out, because Ambassador Stevens wanted to stay.

Ambassador Stevens asked multiple times to be removed.

You are mistaken.

What a hack Obabble Apologist you are.

The records are full of requests by the Ambassador himself for more security. There are eyewitness accounts. The Libyans said it was a terrorist attack from the time it was ongoing.

And Obabble went to a fund raiser in Las Vegas and lied to the victims families.

Seriously. Try to grow a conscience.

Obama had already done all he could do, by ordering General Dempsey to implement Operation Jukebox Lotus.

There should have been no Americans in a compound in Benghazi.

The United States Military should not have been used to assist Al Qaeda, who slaughtered 3,000 Americans on 9/11/01, murder the leader of Libya (who was helping the coalition fight terrorists like Al Qaeda in Northern Africa) and hand control of Libya over to Al Qaeda.

The United States Should not have - through the CIA - been running weapons to terrorists in Syria out of Benghazi.
*** Obama and the CIA were running weapons to terrorists in Syria but REFUSED to provide weapons to the Ukraine to defend its sovereign borders against Russia as they prepared to invade and militarily annex Crimea. The United States had promised to help the Ukraine protect its sovereign borders, but Obama reneged on that promise - would not even give them weapons to defend themselves....but he armed terrorists.

There should not have been any Americans in Benghazi when the Mayor of Benghazi warned the State Department that the leader of Al Qaeda had called fro the assassination of Stephens in retaliation for the death of a top Al Qaeda member one month earlier due to one of Barry's drone strikes.

There should not have been any Americans in Benghazi when every other nation began pulling their people out...and we left Americans there. (The report stated Stephens had to BORROW from the departing other nation anti-terrorist roadblocks/barricades and equipment to try to fortify the US compound because the State Department would not supply any to Stephens.)

There should not have been any Americans in Benghazi after the 1st 2 attacks on the compound...after Stephens told Hillary they could NOT SURVIVE a 3rd attack from a larger force...before he was finally killed in that 3rd attack that came days later.

 

[Slice The Great]

Dropbox - Combined Report.pdf

Page 47

 

[easyt65]

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/benghazi-bungle/

"Former Navy SEAL Tyrone Woods was part of a small team who was at the CIA annex about a mile from the U.S. consulate where Ambassador Chris Stevens and his team came under attack. When he and others heard the shots fired, they informed their higher-ups at the annex to tell them what they were hearing and requested permission to go to the consulate and help out. They were told to “stand down,” according to sources familiar with the exchange. Soon after, they were again told to “stand down.”"

The call for help from the RSO in the TOC at the diplomatic mission was taken by the CIA Security Team Leader, who summoned his security officers to the team room and ordered them to kit up and prepare two vehicles for a rescue mission.

The Deputy Chief went to see what was up. The Team Leader told him what was going on. The Deputy Chief went and told the Chief they were sending a rescue team to the mission. The Chief said. "absolutely."

The only person who claims he actually heard the Chief issue a stand down order is John Tiegen. The Chief denies Tiegen's claim and the other two men who were there didn't hear the Chief order a stand down. View attachment 215759


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well he was there as was Tyrone Woods. I believe them. their brothers died.

According to John Tiegen, there were two other CIA officers on the porch of the CIA when Tig claims the Chief issued an order for the rescue team to stand down. Both officers say the Chief never issued a stand down order.

Yeah, and Brennan said he never spied on the US Senate...until he was forced to admit he did and apologize to them from the floor of Congress to avoid being indicted and going to jail.

 

[Slice The Great]

“There was never a stand-down order,” Bob said. “At no time did I ever second-guess that the team would depart.”

After he heard gunfire, Bob said he immediately began a security response. He said there was “never any question” that a rescue mission was going to happen, even though security contractors leaving the CIA base to rescue diplomats would leave the base vulnerable.

Bob told the paper that he spent the time immediately following the attack trying to enlist local security teams to back the contractors’ mission, but with no success. The leader of the security personnel then left with the contractors for the mission, with any delay accounted for by preparation time and travel to the building in question, some of which was done on foot.

For the first time, the former CIA chief in Benghazi is speaking out about the attacks

 

[mudwhistle]

Trump would have been impeached had he handled Benghazi like BO did and rightfully so.

The old double standard.

Imagine the outrage lefties and their media would have had.

What did Obama do, or not do, in connection with Benghazi that you believe warranted impeachment? Thanks.

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Operation Jukebox Lotus was the name for the crisis response to the events at the US Special Mission Compound in Benghazi, Libya on 11-12 September 2012. The operation was led by US Africa Command, but received support from other commands, namely US European Command.

At 0200 hours local time, Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta convenes a series of meetings in the Pentagon with senior officials Including General Dempsey and General Ham. They discuss additional response options for Benghazi and for the potential outbreak of further violence throughout the region, particularly in Tunis, Tunisia; Tripoli, Libya; Cairo, Egypt; and Sana'a, Yemen. During these meetings, Secretary Panetta directs (provides verbal authorization) the following actions: 1) A Fleet Antiterrorism Security Team (FAST) platoon, stationed in Rota, Spain, is directed to prepare to deploy to Benghazi, and a second FAST platoon, also stationed in Rota, Spain, is directed to prepare to deploy to the Embassy in Tripoli; 2) a EUCOM special operations force, which was training in Central Europe, is directed to prepare to deploy to an intermediate staging base in southern Europe (this force is later reported to be Company C, 1st Battalion, 10th Special Forces Group); and 3) a special operations force based in the United States is directed to prepare to deploy to an intermediate staging base in southern Europe (this force is later reported to have been a detachment from 1st Special Forces Operational Detachment Delta or "Delta Force"). During this period, actions were verbally conveyed from the Pentagon to the affected Combatant Commands in order to expedite movement of forces upon receipt of formal authorization. At 0239 hours local time, as ordered by Secretary Panetta, the National Military Command Center transmitted formal authorization for the 2 Marine Corps FAST platoons, and associated equipment, to prepare to deploy and for the US European Command special operations force, and associated equipment, to move to an intermediate staging base in southern Europe. At 0253 hours local time, as ordered by Secretary Panetta, the National Military Command Center transmitted formal authorization to deploy a special operations force, and associated equipment, from the United States to an intermediate staging base in southern Europe. At 0500 hours local time, a second, unmanned, unarmed surveillance aircraft was also directed to relieve the initial asset still on station over Benghazi.

To meet the evacuating personnel in Tripoli, at 0605 hours local time, US Africa Command ordered a C-17 aircraft in Germany to prepare to deploy to libya to evacuate Americans. A US Air Force C-130 aircraft is also dispatched. At 1915 hours local time on 12 September 2012, the US Embassy Tripoli evacuees, Benghazi personnel, and those wounded in the attacks departed Tripoli on the C-17 aircraft, with military doctors and nurses aboard providing en route medical care to the injured. The aircraft arrived at Ramstein Air Force Base at approximately 2230 hours Tripoli time on 12 September 2012, just over 24 hours after the attacks in Benghazi had commenced.

Crisis response activities continued during this period. At 0757 hours local time, the US European Command special operations force, and associated equipment, arrives at an intermediate staging base in southern Europe. At 0856, the FAST platoon, and associated equipment, arrived in Tripoli. At 0928, the special operations force deployed from the United States, and associated equipment, arrived at an intermediate staging base in southern Europe. Naval Forces Europe's forward-stationed and rotational forces played a critical role in these parts of the response mission. The availability of Naval Air Station Sigonella, Italy, and Naval Support Activity Souda Bay, Greece, enabled US forces to be rapidly postured, employed, and sustained as tasking evolved over the course of the crisis response. US Navy and joint force operations could not have occurred without these bases and the direct support they provided. Additionally, the command flagship, USS Mount Whitney (LCC 20), operating from international waters with the Commander, US Sixth Fleet, embarked, provided command and control, planning, and support coordination during the initial phase of the crisis. Mount Whitney was joined by the landing ship dock USS Fort McHenry (LSD 43) and the destroyers USS McFaul (DDG 74), USS Jason Dunham (DDG 109), and USS Forrest Sherman (DDG 98) during the initial response. The USS Fort McHenry and USS McFaul continued to participate in the extended Operation Jukebox Lotus mission after the initial attack.

Crisis response elements remained in Libya into October 2012, and were deployed to other locations in the region in response to the potential for similar attacks elsewhere.

Operation Jukebox Lotus

Very interesting thanks. So consider this. If you wanted to create a 'military response' that was guaranteed to be a day late and a few lives short, you couldn't have done much better than that cluster fuck. Give me a break. Did it not dawn on any of the military high command to order every man in the compound with a gun to get over there and engage the enemy? Wouldn't any fifth grader have thought of that?

The CIA commander in Benghazi never requested shooters or air support.

He was trying to maintain a low profile.

 

[Slice The Great]

Here's a report on the Deputy Chief's account. He never mentions a stand down order by the Chief or anyone else.

Dropbox - Combined Report.pdf

It starts on page 57.

 

[Slice The Great]

Chief's comment was, "absolutely", when Rescue Team Leader told him, "We got to go get those guys." That doesn't sound like a stand down order to me.

 

[jc456]

well he was there as was Tyrone Woods. I believe them. their brothers died.

According to John Tiegen, there were two other CIA officers on the porch of the CIA when Tig claims the Chief issued an order for the rescue team to stand down. Both officers say the Chief never issued a stand down order.

name them

According to Tiegen, the Deputy Chief of Base and the Security Team Leader, who led the rescue mission to the diplomatic facility.

what are their names? you made a claim, I want the quote from them

They're CIA, dude. Their names are classified. I will post links to them saying the Chief never issued a stand down order.

Well post their statements or you lied

 

[jc456]

According to John Tiegen, there were two other CIA officers on the porch of the CIA when Tig claims the Chief issued an order for the rescue team to stand down. Both officers say the Chief never issued a stand down order.

name them

According to Tiegen, the Deputy Chief of Base and the Security Team Leader, who led the rescue mission to the diplomatic facility.

what are their names? you made a claim, I want the quote from them

They're CIA, dude. Their names are classified. I will post links to them saying the Chief never issued a stand down order.

Well post their statements or you lied

So why didn’t they go then? Please post something logical!

 

[Slice The Great]

Rescue Team Leader tells Chief "we're going." This is after Tiegan claims Chief supposedly issued a stand down order. Keep in mind the Chief cleared the rescue mission when he told the Deputy Chief "absolutely."


Dropbox - Combined Report.pdf

Page 44

 

[Slice The Great]

name them

According to Tiegen, the Deputy Chief of Base and the Security Team Leader, who led the rescue mission to the diplomatic facility.

what are their names? you made a claim, I want the quote from them

They're CIA, dude. Their names are classified. I will post links to them saying the Chief never issued a stand down order.

Well post their statements or you lied

So why didn’t they go then? Please post something logical!

It is well established that a six man CIA rescue team, with an interpreter named "Henry", departed the CIA Annex 23 minutes after the call for help came in.

 

[easyt65]

Brennan declared stripping people of their Security Clearances is a violation of their Constitutional Rights; yet, Brennan stripped the heroes of Benghazi of their security clearances after they came forward with a different version of what happened. Now why would Brennan be so vindictive against someone for having a difference in opinion / in the account of what happened, especially when he made it a point to express how serious of a 'crime' / 'foul' it is to strip someone of their security clearance?

Brennan claimed Trump was attempting to silence him by taking away his security clearance (after Brennan was caught perjuring himself under oath before Congress twice, being caught illegally spying on Americans / US Senators / USSC Justices, etc..) .... but isn't that exactly what Brennan was trying to do to Tonto by taking away his? Couldn't Brennan just prove Tonto was WRNG by producing the necessary evidence to support his version while disproving Tonto's? Why go the extra vindictive mile to punish him by such a harsh 'Constitutional Rights-violating' punishment of stripping him of his security clearance?

I mean, it's not like Tonto was caught committing Felony Perjuries of lying under oath to Congress, illegally spying on Americans and the media, illegally spying on US Senators, or illegally spying on USSC Justices. He just perceived accounts in Benghazi differently.....

 

[jc456]

According to Tiegen, the Deputy Chief of Base and the Security Team Leader, who led the rescue mission to the diplomatic facility.

what are their names? you made a claim, I want the quote from them

They're CIA, dude. Their names are classified. I will post links to them saying the Chief never issued a stand down order.

Well post their statements or you lied

So why didn’t they go then? Please post something logical!

It is well established that a six man CIA rescue team, with an interpreter named "Henry", departed the CIA Annex 23 minutes after the call for help came in.

then how is it Tiegen makes his claim then?

 

[Slice The Great]

Brennan declared stripping people of their Security Clearances is a violation of their Constitutional Rights; yet, Brennan stripped the heroes of Benghazi of their security clearances after they came forward with a different version of what happened. Now why would Brennan be so vindictive against someone for having a difference in opinion / in the account of what happened, especially when he made it a point to express how serious of a 'crime' / 'foul' it is to strip someone of their security clearance?

Brennan claimed Trump was attempting to silence him by taking away his security clearance (after Brennan was caught perjuring himself under oath before Congress twice, being caught illegally spying on Americans / US Senators / USSC Justices, etc..) .... but isn't that exactly what Brennan was trying to do to Tonto by taking away his? Couldn't Brennan just prove Tonto was WRNG by producing the necessary evidence to support his version while disproving Tonto's? Why go the extra vindictive mile to punish him by such a harsh 'Constitutional Rights-violating' punishment of stripping him of his security clearance?

I mean, it's not like Tonto was caught committing Felony Perjuries of lying under oath to Congress, illegally spying on Americans and the media, illegally spying on US Senators, or illegally spying on USSC Justices. He just perceived accounts in Benghazi differently.....

All I know that Tiegen's claim that the CIA Chief of Base issued a stand down order is hog wash.

 

[Slice The Great]

what are their names? you made a claim, I want the quote from them

They're CIA, dude. Their names are classified. I will post links to them saying the Chief never issued a stand down order.

Well post their statements or you lied

So why didn’t they go then? Please post something logical!

It is well established that a six man CIA rescue team, with an interpreter named "Henry", departed the CIA Annex 23 minutes after the call for help came in.

then how is it Tiegen makes his claim then?

The motive of the "Liars of Benghazi" to fabricate the stand down order was money.

 

[easyt65]

All I know that Tiegen's claim that the CIA Chief of Base issued a stand down order is hog wash.

Correction: You BELIEVE that the claim a stand-down order was given is hogwash because you have chosen to believe those who claim there was not.

As I pointed out, CIA Director Brennan sat in front of Congress and declared with great conviction that neither he nor his CIA had illegally and Un-Constitutionally spied on the US Senate...and approx. a week later he was called before Congress and shown the evidence that he had intentionally committed Perjury earlier during his testimony. I KNOW Brennan was forced to go before Congress after that to ADMIT that he HAD indeed illegally and Un-Constitutionally spied on the Senate in order to avoid indictment and crime.

The CIA is an agency infested with professional liars and criminals who spend most of their existence violating the Constitution and laws. The CIA was in Benghazi, for example, illegally running weapons to terrorists. So these 'very good men' - these such 'trustworthy, honest men' - are telling the truth about not giving a stand-down order while they were in Benghazi illegally arming terrorists?! And you are SURE of that....

REALLY?!

 

[iceberg]

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/benghazi-bungle/

"Former Navy SEAL Tyrone Woods was part of a small team who was at the CIA annex about a mile from the U.S. consulate where Ambassador Chris Stevens and his team came under attack. When he and others heard the shots fired, they informed their higher-ups at the annex to tell them what they were hearing and requested permission to go to the consulate and help out. They were told to “stand down,” according to sources familiar with the exchange. Soon after, they were again told to “stand down.”"

The call for help from the RSO in the TOC at the diplomatic mission was taken by the CIA Security Team Leader, who summoned his security officers to the team room and ordered them to kit up and prepare two vehicles for a rescue mission.

The Deputy Chief went to see what was up. The Team Leader told him what was going on. The Deputy Chief went and told the Chief they were sending a rescue team to the mission. The Chief said. "absolutely."

The only person who claims he actually heard the Chief issue a stand down order is John Tiegen. The Chief denies Tiegen's claim and the other two men who were there didn't hear the Chief order a stand down. View attachment 215759


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well he was there as was Tyrone Woods. I believe them. their brothers died.

According to John Tiegen, there were two other CIA officers on the porch of the CIA when Tig claims the Chief issued an order for the rescue team to stand down. Both officers say the Chief never issued a stand down order.

Yeah, and Brennan said he never spied on the US Senate...until he was forced to admit he did and apologize to them from the floor of Congress to avoid being indicted and going to jail.

the option to not be prosecuted and going to jail should NEVER have been given to someone spying on our own gov.

 

[easyt65]

the option to not be prosecuted and going to jail should NEVER have been given to someone spying on our own gov.

ABSOLUTELY.

This is another instance when our elected Politicians elevated themselves above the Constitution and the Rule of Law in order to protect one of their own high powered criminal elitists in our Government. Who the hell did they think they were cutting a political deal to protect a treasonous criminal from prosecution?!

 

[sakinago]

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/benghazi-bungle/

"Former Navy SEAL Tyrone Woods was part of a small team who was at the CIA annex about a mile from the U.S. consulate where Ambassador Chris Stevens and his team came under attack. When he and others heard the shots fired, they informed their higher-ups at the annex to tell them what they were hearing and requested permission to go to the consulate and help out. They were told to “stand down,” according to sources familiar with the exchange. Soon after, they were again told to “stand down.”"

The call for help from the RSO in the TOC at the diplomatic mission was taken by the CIA Security Team Leader, who summoned his security officers to the team room and ordered them to kit up and prepare two vehicles for a rescue mission.

The Deputy Chief went to see what was up. The Team Leader told him what was going on. The Deputy Chief went and told the Chief they were sending a rescue team to the mission. The Chief said. "absolutely."

The only person who claims he actually heard the Chief issue a stand down order is John Tiegen. The Chief denies Tiegen's claim and the other two men who were there didn't hear the Chief order a stand down. View attachment 215759


.

well he was there as was Tyrone Woods. I believe them. their brothers died.

According to John Tiegen, there were two other CIA officers on the porch of the CIA when Tig claims the Chief issued an order for the rescue team to stand down. Both officers say the Chief never issued a stand down order.

Because no one would ever have any motivation to cover for their boss and themselves...Why on earth would anyone want to dishonor their character in the name of a promotion, raise, having leverage on their boss, looking like a team player for the higher ups, etc, etc. It isn’t like the higher ups reward people for sticking to the “story”, or make their underlings worry about being given a shit assignment for not playing on.

We know the carrier group, who was in position, waaay more capable of providing help, gave you many different options of help, was given the stand down order. But sure, it makes total sense that the CIA wasn’t given similar orders, and they were totally in the best position to send help by car all the way from Tripoli. I mean two guys under the CIA chief collaborated the story so it has to be true l, right?