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Well, true to a point, but they pay out more than anybody puts in. It’s a pension ponzie scheme. It’s still socialism as long as it is run by the governmentI forgot how tiny your brain is. How could you not know SS is socialism? What a dumbass.If you think the social security system is not socialism then you have no clue what socialism means.Well, that is the current right wing rhetoric, even if you don't know what the facts are.
I know what textbook Socialism is...it's obvious yer just flapping your gums
If you think social security is socialism you should leave this thread...Dumbfuck
How dumb are you? Obviously you never held a real job. See, social security is me getting back the money I paid into the system my ENTIRE working life. Getting back my own money isn't socialism. Try again.
Oh fk! Dude, at least act educated! They are both failures .No, they are not.
It appears we have an issue regarding 'products.' Those are not products, they are public services and there is a huge difference. Declaring everything the government does as socialism shows a deep misunderstanding of socialism.
The service is the product dumb ass. Those specific things are textbook socialism.
No its not. Textbook socialism is the epic fail taking place in Venezuela
Well, that is the current right wing rhetoric, even if you don't know what the facts are.
So according to chihuahua here, Venezuela is a thriving paradise. So why don't you go there and show us how great things are? In between your chasing down a dog for food and trying to find toilet paper. Better yet, SHOW us facts to show how Venezuela hasn't failed.
Why are you trying to change the subject?. Our socialist Medicare is the most well liked and successful program we have ever had.
Doesn’t mean he didn’t pay in? Right? So he’s accurate right? How much did the 47% pay in? When you can’t answer that question, you’re then educated on socialismI forgot how tiny your brain is. How could you not know SS is socialism? What a dumbass.If you think the social security system is not socialism then you have no clue what socialism means.I know what textbook Socialism is...it's obvious yer just flapping your gums
If you think social security is socialism you should leave this thread...Dumbfuck
How dumb are you? Obviously you never held a real job. See, social security is me getting back the money I paid into the system my ENTIRE working life. Getting back my own money isn't socialism. Try again.
No, Your money went to supporting people who retired before you. After you retire, workers of that time will help support you.
Drat. I was must saying how my feet needed to look more patriotic. Now what will I do?
I already told you how. The simple fact that you cannot differentiate between government and socialism should tell you that you fundamentally misunderstand the ECONOMIC system called socialism.Then what is not socialism that government does?No, they are not.Are they public ownership of the means of production?
Yes. The products they produce, are controlled by the public. Those products can't always be put in a box and shipped to your door, but they are products none the less.
It appears we have an issue regarding 'products.' Those are not products, they are public services and there is a huge difference. Declaring everything the government does as socialism shows a deep misunderstanding of socialism.
The service is the product dumb ass. Those specific things are textbook socialism.
You first. How does social security differ from socialism?
Oh fk! Dude, at least act educated! They are both failures .The service is the product dumb ass. Those specific things are textbook socialism.
No its not. Textbook socialism is the epic fail taking place in Venezuela
Well, that is the current right wing rhetoric, even if you don't know what the facts are.
So according to chihuahua here, Venezuela is a thriving paradise. So why don't you go there and show us how great things are? In between your chasing down a dog for food and trying to find toilet paper. Better yet, SHOW us facts to show how Venezuela hasn't failed.
Why are you trying to change the subject?. Our socialist Medicare is the most well liked and successful program we have ever had.
You're still an idiot who thinks the word socialism can be used to describe anything you don't like or understand. "The beans were burnt, so therefore beans are socialism."Doesn’t mean he didn’t pay in? Right? So he’s accurate right? How much did the 47% pay in? When you can’t answer that question, you’re then educated on socialismI forgot how tiny your brain is. How could you not know SS is socialism? What a dumbass.If you think the social security system is not socialism then you have no clue what socialism means.
If you think social security is socialism you should leave this thread...Dumbfuck
How dumb are you? Obviously you never held a real job. See, social security is me getting back the money I paid into the system my ENTIRE working life. Getting back my own money isn't socialism. Try again.
No, Your money went to supporting people who retired before you. After you retire, workers of that time will help support you.
I already told you how. The simple fact that you cannot differentiate between government and socialism should tell you that you fundamentally misunderstand the ECONOMIC system called socialism.Then what is not socialism that government does?No, they are not.Yes. The products they produce, are controlled by the public. Those products can't always be put in a box and shipped to your door, but they are products none the less.
It appears we have an issue regarding 'products.' Those are not products, they are public services and there is a huge difference. Declaring everything the government does as socialism shows a deep misunderstanding of socialism.
The service is the product dumb ass. Those specific things are textbook socialism.
You first. How does social security differ from socialism?
And you continue to sidestep. They are not products - they are services. Services that the government administers. YOU want to make that mean the same thing as production (which is NOT product but the difference is to subtle for you to understand apparently). IF we go by your asinine assertion then ALL government is socialism by definition. military, courts, police, the department of motor vehicles.I already told you how. The simple fact that you cannot differentiate between government and socialism should tell you that you fundamentally misunderstand the ECONOMIC system called socialism.Then what is not socialism that government does?No, they are not.
It appears we have an issue regarding 'products.' Those are not products, they are public services and there is a huge difference. Declaring everything the government does as socialism shows a deep misunderstanding of socialism.
The service is the product dumb ass. Those specific things are textbook socialism.
You first. How does social security differ from socialism?
No you didn't.
And you continue to sidestep. They are not products - they are services. Services that the government administers. YOU want to make that mean the same thing as production (which is NOT product but the difference is to subtle for you to understand apparently). IF we go by your asinine assertion then ALL government is socialism by definition. military, courts, police, the department of motor vehicles.I already told you how. The simple fact that you cannot differentiate between government and socialism should tell you that you fundamentally misunderstand the ECONOMIC system called socialism.Then what is not socialism that government does?The service is the product dumb ass. Those specific things are textbook socialism.
You first. How does social security differ from socialism?
No you didn't.
What you are utterly unable to do thus far is name something that is government under that warped definition that's not socialism.
Yes it does. I specifically said it did. It is also AN ECONOMIC system and not a government one. Ergo, your assumption that government = socialism is immensely ignorant. You might as well not even use the term - just say government. That you chose to stay ignorant is all on you.And you continue to sidestep. They are not products - they are services. Services that the government administers. YOU want to make that mean the same thing as production (which is NOT product but the difference is to subtle for you to understand apparently). IF we go by your asinine assertion then ALL government is socialism by definition. military, courts, police, the department of motor vehicles.I already told you how. The simple fact that you cannot differentiate between government and socialism should tell you that you fundamentally misunderstand the ECONOMIC system called socialism.Then what is not socialism that government does?
You first. How does social security differ from socialism?
No you didn't.
What you are utterly unable to do thus far is name something that is government under that warped definition that's not socialism.
Socialism has a specific definition. If it hurts your feelings that some of government's programs fit that description, you'll just have to get over it. You'll have to come up with some other word to describe anything you don't like. The word socialism doesn't mean what you think it means.
Sure it is exactly what he’s saying! You wish all government run programs! The GOP wants to privatize social security why don’t you?And you continue to sidestep. They are not products - they are services. Services that the government administers. YOU want to make that mean the same thing as production (which is NOT product but the difference is to subtle for you to understand apparently). IF we go by your asinine assertion then ALL government is socialism by definition. military, courts, police, the department of motor vehicles.I already told you how. The simple fact that you cannot differentiate between government and socialism should tell you that you fundamentally misunderstand the ECONOMIC system called socialism.Then what is not socialism that government does?
You first. How does social security differ from socialism?
No you didn't.
What you are utterly unable to do thus far is name something that is government under that warped definition that's not socialism.
Socialism has a specific definition. If it hurts your feelings that some of government's programs fit that description, you'll just have to get over it. You'll have to come up with some other word to describe anything you don't like. The word socialism doesn't mean what you think it means.
Yes, and they make up what percentage of the entire population or the entire system ? Mix in the capitalist side of it, along with all the employees, managers, workers that make up that whole side of it, and you have a majority verses a minority in numbers.All failing factTell us more how socialism will work this time, Mr I’m Informed.Then why are you so uninformed?
Listening to fox rhetoric doesn't make you informed.
Google Social Security, or Medicare, or Fire department.
WHUT? SS, Medicare, and the fire department are pure socialism. You might add the police, the military, and public schools as well.
Yes, and they make up what percentage of the entire population or the entire system ? Mix in the capitalist side of it, along with all the employees, managers, workers that make up that whole side of it, and you have a majority verses a minority in numbers.All failing factTell us more how socialism will work this time, Mr I’m Informed.Listening to fox rhetoric doesn't make you informed.
Google Social Security, or Medicare, or Fire department.
WHUT? SS, Medicare, and the fire department are pure socialism. You might add the police, the military, and public schools as well.
The side you speak of usually serves the other side of the isle by way of the free capitalist side then paying in taxes what is needed to have that volunteer service worker's side rendered onto it.
Now when the service side grows far greater than the other free capitalist production side, then Houston we have a serious problem. We must remain balanced, and the Democrat side is destroying that balance with all it's bullcrap. Can't happen, and it shouldn't happen, and it won't happen.
Takes a real moron to claim every government in human history was socialist.Yes, and they make up what percentage of the entire population or the entire system ? Mix in the capitalist side of it, along with all the employees, managers, workers that make up that whole side of it, and you have a majority verses a minority in numbers.All failing factTell us more how socialism will work this time, Mr I’m Informed.
Google Social Security, or Medicare, or Fire department.
WHUT? SS, Medicare, and the fire department are pure socialism. You might add the police, the military, and public schools as well.
The side you speak of usually serves the other side of the isle by way of the free capitalist side then paying in taxes what is needed to have that volunteer service worker's side rendered onto it.
Now when the service side grows far greater than the other free capitalist production side, then Houston we have a serious problem. We must remain balanced, and the Democrat side is destroying that balance with all it's bullcrap. Can't happen, and it shouldn't happen, and it won't happen.
Our socialist programs are neither Republican or Democratic. they are American programs that serve us all well, and I might add, the most successful and well liked programs the country has ever known. You will never kill Social Security because it works, and the country won't let you.
Takes a real moron to claim every government in human history was socialist.Yes, and they make up what percentage of the entire population or the entire system ? Mix in the capitalist side of it, along with all the employees, managers, workers that make up that whole side of it, and you have a majority verses a minority in numbers.All failing factGoogle Social Security, or Medicare, or Fire department.
WHUT? SS, Medicare, and the fire department are pure socialism. You might add the police, the military, and public schools as well.
The side you speak of usually serves the other side of the isle by way of the free capitalist side then paying in taxes what is needed to have that volunteer service worker's side rendered onto it.
Now when the service side grows far greater than the other free capitalist production side, then Houston we have a serious problem. We must remain balanced, and the Democrat side is destroying that balance with all it's bullcrap. Can't happen, and it shouldn't happen, and it won't happen.
Our socialist programs are neither Republican or Democratic. they are American programs that serve us all well, and I might add, the most successful and well liked programs the country has ever known. You will never kill Social Security because it works, and the country won't let you.
Congrats.
