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Fidel warned Hugo :"Don't follow my lead, it didn't work as expected". Hugo backed off and the economy faltered somewhat. Madoodoo thought it was bad advice from The Master of anti-imperialism. Fidel, of course, was correct.
Before the flames start
Fidel Castro says his economic system is failing
Vast bullshit.
1. Venezuela does not have Cuba´s economic system.
2. Venezuela´s economy grew:



So when will you stop bullshitting?
 

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Fidel warned Hugo :"Don't follow my lead, it didn't work as expected". Hugo backed off and the economy faltered somewhat. Madoodoo thought it was bad advice from The Master of anti-imperialism. Fidel, of course, was correct.
Before the flames start
Fidel Castro says his economic system is failing
Vast bullshit.
1. Venezuela does not have Cuba´s economic system.
2. Venezuela´s economy grew:



So when will you stop bullshitting?
Yeahh, but do they really produce cocaine more than say...4 guys in Columbia?

I say no.
 

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Fidel warned Hugo :"Don't follow my lead, it didn't work as expected". Hugo backed off and the economy faltered somewhat. Madoodoo thought it was bad advice from The Master of anti-imperialism. Fidel, of course, was correct.
Before the flames start
Fidel Castro says his economic system is failing
Vast bullshit.
1. Venezuela does not have Cuba´s economic system.
2. Venezuela´s economy grew:



So when will you stop bullshitting?
Yeahh, but do they really produce cocaine more than say...4 guys in Columbia?

I say no.
I hope not. And I don´t think that drugs are in the GDP.
 

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Trump´s fake news media are going mad now:

Definitely not "Trump's Media". It's the war-mongering AP ginning up justification to take Maduro out.

US really has no business messing with them. Country can't even feed its citizens, they're not exporting much cocaine.
The charge is not a proof, even if it was justified. This is government parroting and if you think the US backed opposition´s economic boycott and US sanctions have nothing to do with the country´s situation, you are wrong.
Blame America first?
America (its rulers) takes the blame for the entire "regime change" attempt. And if your Trump now blames Maduro for the drugs that come from elsewhere, you can guess that nothing will be done about them.
The Democrats are in league with the Drug Cartels.
 

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The US has charged Venezuela's President, Nicolás Maduro, and other senior officials in the country with "narco-terrorism".

It accused them of flooding the US with cocaine and using drugs as a weapon to undermine the health of Americans.

The charges were announced by Attorney General William Barr. A $15m (£12.5m) reward is being offered for information leading to Mr Maduro's arrest.

Bit of regime change going on. Some things never change no matter who is Pres.

Au contraire, TT. Maduro was INDICTED by a grand jury, not by Barr and not by Trump. If he's innocent, he has nothing to fear about going before a jury of his peers and having his case heard.
 

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Trump´s fake news media are going mad now:

Definitely not "Trump's Media". It's the war-mongering AP ginning up justification to take Maduro out.

US really has no business messing with them. Country can't even feed its citizens, they're not exporting much cocaine.
The charge is not a proof, even if it was justified. This is government parroting and if you think the US backed opposition´s economic boycott and US sanctions have nothing to do with the country´s situation, you are wrong.
Blame America first?
America (its rulers) takes the blame for the entire "regime change" attempt. And if your Trump now blames Maduro for the drugs that come from elsewhere, you can guess that nothing will be done about them.
The Democrats are in league with the Drug Cartels.
Corruptibility is non-partisan, I guess. The question remains why nothing has been done about the smuggling routes. Tea time at the world police station?
 

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The US has charged Venezuela's President, Nicolás Maduro, and other senior officials in the country with "narco-terrorism".

It accused them of flooding the US with cocaine and using drugs as a weapon to undermine the health of Americans.

The charges were announced by Attorney General William Barr. A $15m (£12.5m) reward is being offered for information leading to Mr Maduro's arrest.

Bit of regime change going on. Some things never change no matter who is Pres.
I cant wait to read about the mass graves all over democratic socialist Venezuela...rumours that thier are many ..the world will eventuallyfindout.
 
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The US has charged Venezuela's President, Nicolás Maduro, and other senior officials in the country with "narco-terrorism".

It accused them of flooding the US with cocaine and using drugs as a weapon to undermine the health of Americans.

The charges were announced by Attorney General William Barr. A $15m (£12.5m) reward is being offered for information leading to Mr Maduro's arrest.

Bit of regime change going on. Some things never change no matter who is Pres.

Au contraire, TT. Maduro was INDICTED by a grand jury, not by Barr and not by Trump. If he's innocent, he has nothing to fear about going before a jury of his peers and having his case heard.
Kangaroo court. Maduro is a head of state. Your bullshit courts have zero jurisdiction.
 

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The US has charged Venezuela's President, Nicolás Maduro, and other senior officials in the country with "narco-terrorism".

It accused them of flooding the US with cocaine and using drugs as a weapon to undermine the health of Americans.

The charges were announced by Attorney General William Barr. A $15m (£12.5m) reward is being offered for information leading to Mr Maduro's arrest.

Bit of regime change going on. Some things never change no matter who is Pres.

Au contraire, TT. Maduro was INDICTED by a grand jury, not by Barr and not by Trump. If he's innocent, he has nothing to fear about going before a jury of his peers and having his case heard.
Kangaroo court. Maduro is a head of state. Your bullshit courts have zero jurisdiction.

Since when are US courts "bullshit"? BTW, Maduro isn't recognized as a lawful head of state by America. Some other Venezuelan fellow is considered legit.
 

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The US has charged Venezuela's President, Nicolás Maduro, and other senior officials in the country with "narco-terrorism".

It accused them of flooding the US with cocaine and using drugs as a weapon to undermine the health of Americans.

The charges were announced by Attorney General William Barr. A $15m (£12.5m) reward is being offered for information leading to Mr Maduro's arrest.

Bit of regime change going on. Some things never change no matter who is Pres.

Au contraire, TT. Maduro was INDICTED by a grand jury, not by Barr and not by Trump. If he's innocent, he has nothing to fear about going before a jury of his peers and having his case heard.
Kangaroo court. Maduro is a head of state. Your bullshit courts have zero jurisdiction.

Since when are US courts "bullshit"? BTW, Maduro isn't recognized as a lawful head of state by America. Some other Venezuelan fellow is considered legit.
And yet he was democratically elected by the people of Venezuela. Apparently the criminals in the US government don’t believe in democracy.

The big oil companies (transnational corporations) want control of Venezuela’s oil and since they own the US political class, they usually get what they want.
 

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Since you know more than the President the People of the United States chose to preside, and you can't stand it, why don't you run for office.
I couldn't run for office, I'd tell people the truth.

"Sorry, there is no God, and we have to solve these problems ourselves."

See, that would never fly with people as stupid as Americans.
So you could be a mouthpiece for the Democrats. Got it. :rofl:
 

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The US has charged Venezuela's President, Nicolás Maduro, and other senior officials in the country with "narco-terrorism".

It accused them of flooding the US with cocaine and using drugs as a weapon to undermine the health of Americans.

The charges were announced by Attorney General William Barr. A $15m (£12.5m) reward is being offered for information leading to Mr Maduro's arrest.

Bit of regime change going on. Some things never change no matter who is Pres.

Au contraire, TT. Maduro was INDICTED by a grand jury, not by Barr and not by Trump. If he's innocent, he has nothing to fear about going before a jury of his peers and having his case heard.
Kangaroo court. Maduro is a head of state. Your bullshit courts have zero jurisdiction.

Since when are US courts "bullshit"? BTW, Maduro isn't recognized as a lawful head of state by America. Some other Venezuelan fellow is considered legit.
And yet he was democratically elected by the people of Venezuela. Apparently the criminals in the US government don’t believe in democracy.

The big oil companies (transnational corporations) want control of Venezuela’s oil and since they own the US political class, they usually get what they want.

Maduro was elected in a Fake Election, similar to the kind of elections that they have in Cuba or North Korea or that Uncle Joe Stalin had in the old USSR. BTW, the world is getting by well enough without Venezuela oil, its a non-factor in 2020
 

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Trump´s fake news media are going mad now:

Definitely not "Trump's Media". It's the war-mongering AP ginning up justification to take Maduro out.

US really has no business messing with them. Country can't even feed its citizens, they're not exporting much cocaine.
With all that oil in Venezuela?
 

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The US has charged Venezuela's President, Nicolás Maduro, and other senior officials in the country with "narco-terrorism".

It accused them of flooding the US with cocaine and using drugs as a weapon to undermine the health of Americans.

The charges were announced by Attorney General William Barr. A $15m (£12.5m) reward is being offered for information leading to Mr Maduro's arrest.

Bit of regime change going on. Some things never change no matter who is Pres.

Au contraire, TT. Maduro was INDICTED by a grand jury, not by Barr and not by Trump. If he's innocent, he has nothing to fear about going before a jury of his peers and having his case heard.
Kangaroo court. Maduro is a head of state. Your bullshit courts have zero jurisdiction.

Since when are US courts "bullshit"? BTW, Maduro isn't recognized as a lawful head of state by America. Some other Venezuelan fellow is considered legit.
And yet he was democratically elected by the people of Venezuela. Apparently the criminals in the US government don’t believe in democracy.

The big oil companies (transnational corporations) want control of Venezuela’s oil and since they own the US political class, they usually get what they want.

Maduro was elected in a Fake Election, similar to the kind of elections that they have in Cuba or North Korea or that Uncle Joe Stalin had in the old USSR. BTW, the world is getting by well enough without Venezuela oil, its a non-factor in 2020
Yeah that’s the talking point of the transnational capitalist warmongers. You have nothing in common with them. So, why do you accept their propaganda?
 
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The US has charged Venezuela's President, Nicolás Maduro, and other senior officials in the country with "narco-terrorism".

It accused them of flooding the US with cocaine and using drugs as a weapon to undermine the health of Americans.

The charges were announced by Attorney General William Barr. A $15m (£12.5m) reward is being offered for information leading to Mr Maduro's arrest.

Bit of regime change going on. Some things never change no matter who is Pres.

Au contraire, TT. Maduro was INDICTED by a grand jury, not by Barr and not by Trump. If he's innocent, he has nothing to fear about going before a jury of his peers and having his case heard.
Kangaroo court. Maduro is a head of state. Your bullshit courts have zero jurisdiction.

Since when are US courts "bullshit"? BTW, Maduro isn't recognized as a lawful head of state by America. Some other Venezuelan fellow is considered legit.
And yet he was democratically elected by the people of Venezuela. Apparently the criminals in the US government don’t believe in democracy.

The big oil companies (transnational corporations) want control of Venezuela’s oil and since they own the US political class, they usually get what they want.

Maduro was elected in a Fake Election, similar to the kind of elections that they have in Cuba or North Korea or that Uncle Joe Stalin had in the old USSR. BTW, the world is getting by well enough without Venezuela oil, its a non-factor in 2020
I am told by one side that there were over 3 million illegal votes cast in the last US election. The other side is telling me that Trump was elected with Russian help.

Now tell me what gives you the right to judge Maduros legitimacy?
 

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The US has charged Venezuela's President, Nicolás Maduro, and other senior officials in the country with "narco-terrorism".

It accused them of flooding the US with cocaine and using drugs as a weapon to undermine the health of Americans.

The charges were announced by Attorney General William Barr. A $15m (£12.5m) reward is being offered for information leading to Mr Maduro's arrest.

Bit of regime change going on. Some things never change no matter who is Pres.

Au contraire, TT. Maduro was INDICTED by a grand jury, not by Barr and not by Trump. If he's innocent, he has nothing to fear about going before a jury of his peers and having his case heard.
Kangaroo court. Maduro is a head of state. Your bullshit courts have zero jurisdiction.

Since when are US courts "bullshit"? BTW, Maduro isn't recognized as a lawful head of state by America. Some other Venezuelan fellow is considered legit.
And yet he was democratically elected by the people of Venezuela. Apparently the criminals in the US government don’t believe in democracy.

The big oil companies (transnational corporations) want control of Venezuela’s oil and since they own the US political class, they usually get what they want.

Maduro was elected in a Fake Election, similar to the kind of elections that they have in Cuba or North Korea or that Uncle Joe Stalin had in the old USSR. BTW, the world is getting by well enough without Venezuela oil, its a non-factor in 2020
I am told by one side that there were over 3 million illegal votes cast in the last US election. The other side is telling me that Trump was elected with Russian help.

Now tell me what gives you the right to judge Maduros legitimacy?

Maduro is the one who is asserting that he is legitimate, and there are other claimants to the throne of Venezuela. The burden goes on him.

But that's neither here nor there. If he's guilty of drug trafficking, he needs to be punished. If he's innocent, sure let him go. But Maduro needs to answer to the courts
 
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The US has charged Venezuela's President, Nicolás Maduro, and other senior officials in the country with "narco-terrorism".

It accused them of flooding the US with cocaine and using drugs as a weapon to undermine the health of Americans.

The charges were announced by Attorney General William Barr. A $15m (£12.5m) reward is being offered for information leading to Mr Maduro's arrest.

Bit of regime change going on. Some things never change no matter who is Pres.

Au contraire, TT. Maduro was INDICTED by a grand jury, not by Barr and not by Trump. If he's innocent, he has nothing to fear about going before a jury of his peers and having his case heard.
Kangaroo court. Maduro is a head of state. Your bullshit courts have zero jurisdiction.

Since when are US courts "bullshit"? BTW, Maduro isn't recognized as a lawful head of state by America. Some other Venezuelan fellow is considered legit.
And yet he was democratically elected by the people of Venezuela. Apparently the criminals in the US government don’t believe in democracy.

The big oil companies (transnational corporations) want control of Venezuela’s oil and since they own the US political class, they usually get what they want.

Maduro was elected in a Fake Election, similar to the kind of elections that they have in Cuba or North Korea or that Uncle Joe Stalin had in the old USSR. BTW, the world is getting by well enough without Venezuela oil, its a non-factor in 2020
I am told by one side that there were over 3 million illegal votes cast in the last US election. The other side is telling me that Trump was elected with Russian help.

Now tell me what gives you the right to judge Maduros legitimacy?

Maduro is the one who is asserting that he is legitimate, and there are other claimants to the throne of Venezuela. The burden goes on him.

But that's neither here nor there. If he's guilty of drug trafficking, he needs to be punished. If he's innocent, sure let him go. But Maduro needs to answer to the courts
He really doesn't. He is a Head of State and the US is not the worlds policeman.
 

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The US has charged Venezuela's President, Nicolás Maduro, and other senior officials in the country with "narco-terrorism".

It accused them of flooding the US with cocaine and using drugs as a weapon to undermine the health of Americans.

The charges were announced by Attorney General William Barr. A $15m (£12.5m) reward is being offered for information leading to Mr Maduro's arrest.

Bit of regime change going on. Some things never change no matter who is Pres.

Au contraire, TT. Maduro was INDICTED by a grand jury, not by Barr and not by Trump. If he's innocent, he has nothing to fear about going before a jury of his peers and having his case heard.
Kangaroo court. Maduro is a head of state. Your bullshit courts have zero jurisdiction.

Since when are US courts "bullshit"? BTW, Maduro isn't recognized as a lawful head of state by America. Some other Venezuelan fellow is considered legit.
And yet he was democratically elected by the people of Venezuela. Apparently the criminals in the US government don’t believe in democracy.

The big oil companies (transnational corporations) want control of Venezuela’s oil and since they own the US political class, they usually get what they want.

Maduro was elected in a Fake Election, similar to the kind of elections that they have in Cuba or North Korea or that Uncle Joe Stalin had in the old USSR. BTW, the world is getting by well enough without Venezuela oil, its a non-factor in 2020
I am told by one side that there were over 3 million illegal votes cast in the last US election. The other side is telling me that Trump was elected with Russian help.

Now tell me what gives you the right to judge Maduros legitimacy?

Maduro is the one who is asserting that he is legitimate, and there are other claimants to the throne of Venezuela. The burden goes on him.

But that's neither here nor there. If he's guilty of drug trafficking, he needs to be punished. If he's innocent, sure let him go. But Maduro needs to answer to the courts
He really doesn't. He is a Head of State and the US is not the worlds policeman.

You're right, America isn't the world's policeman. But Maduro is alleged to have committed a crime against America, and his high status as a putative "Head of State" doesn't put him above the law. Maduro was allegedly flooding America with cocaine, which causes our country a lot of problems. That's really an act of war if it was done on behalf of the Venezuelan government. But the grand jury decided it wasn't an act of the government but of Maduro and 4 of his cronies.
 
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The US has charged Venezuela's President, Nicolás Maduro, and other senior officials in the country with "narco-terrorism".

It accused them of flooding the US with cocaine and using drugs as a weapon to undermine the health of Americans.

The charges were announced by Attorney General William Barr. A $15m (£12.5m) reward is being offered for information leading to Mr Maduro's arrest.

Bit of regime change going on. Some things never change no matter who is Pres.

Au contraire, TT. Maduro was INDICTED by a grand jury, not by Barr and not by Trump. If he's innocent, he has nothing to fear about going before a jury of his peers and having his case heard.
Kangaroo court. Maduro is a head of state. Your bullshit courts have zero jurisdiction.

Since when are US courts "bullshit"? BTW, Maduro isn't recognized as a lawful head of state by America. Some other Venezuelan fellow is considered legit.
And yet he was democratically elected by the people of Venezuela. Apparently the criminals in the US government don’t believe in democracy.

The big oil companies (transnational corporations) want control of Venezuela’s oil and since they own the US political class, they usually get what they want.

Maduro was elected in a Fake Election, similar to the kind of elections that they have in Cuba or North Korea or that Uncle Joe Stalin had in the old USSR. BTW, the world is getting by well enough without Venezuela oil, its a non-factor in 2020
I am told by one side that there were over 3 million illegal votes cast in the last US election. The other side is telling me that Trump was elected with Russian help.

Now tell me what gives you the right to judge Maduros legitimacy?

Maduro is the one who is asserting that he is legitimate, and there are other claimants to the throne of Venezuela. The burden goes on him.

But that's neither here nor there. If he's guilty of drug trafficking, he needs to be punished. If he's innocent, sure let him go. But Maduro needs to answer to the courts
He really doesn't. He is a Head of State and the US is not the worlds policeman.

You're right, America isn't the world's policeman. But Maduro is alleged to have committed a crime against America, and his high status as a putative "Head of State" doesn't put him above the law. Maduro was allegedly flooding America with cocaine, which causes our country a lot of problems. That's really an act of war if it was done on behalf of the Venezuelan government. But the grand jury decided it wasn't an act of the government but of Maduro and 4 of his cronies.
Nazi Germany used to invent crimes as a pretext to invading other countries. You have not produced any evidence of these crimes and your backing of Gaiudo means you are prejudiced. Its a joke and would be laughed at if the US was not so powerful. You are a rogue state.
 

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The US has charged Venezuela's President, Nicolás Maduro, and other senior officials in the country with "narco-terrorism".

It accused them of flooding the US with cocaine and using drugs as a weapon to undermine the health of Americans.

The charges were announced by Attorney General William Barr. A $15m (£12.5m) reward is being offered for information leading to Mr Maduro's arrest.

Bit of regime change going on. Some things never change no matter who is Pres.

Au contraire, TT. Maduro was INDICTED by a grand jury, not by Barr and not by Trump. If he's innocent, he has nothing to fear about going before a jury of his peers and having his case heard.
Kangaroo court. Maduro is a head of state. Your bullshit courts have zero jurisdiction.

Since when are US courts "bullshit"? BTW, Maduro isn't recognized as a lawful head of state by America. Some other Venezuelan fellow is considered legit.
And yet he was democratically elected by the people of Venezuela. Apparently the criminals in the US government don’t believe in democracy.

The big oil companies (transnational corporations) want control of Venezuela’s oil and since they own the US political class, they usually get what they want.

Maduro was elected in a Fake Election, similar to the kind of elections that they have in Cuba or North Korea or that Uncle Joe Stalin had in the old USSR. BTW, the world is getting by well enough without Venezuela oil, its a non-factor in 2020
I am told by one side that there were over 3 million illegal votes cast in the last US election. The other side is telling me that Trump was elected with Russian help.

Now tell me what gives you the right to judge Maduros legitimacy?

Maduro is the one who is asserting that he is legitimate, and there are other claimants to the throne of Venezuela. The burden goes on him.

But that's neither here nor there. If he's guilty of drug trafficking, he needs to be punished. If he's innocent, sure let him go. But Maduro needs to answer to the courts
He really doesn't. He is a Head of State and the US is not the worlds policeman.

You're right, America isn't the world's policeman. But Maduro is alleged to have committed a crime against America, and his high status as a putative "Head of State" doesn't put him above the law. Maduro was allegedly flooding America with cocaine, which causes our country a lot of problems. That's really an act of war if it was done on behalf of the Venezuelan government. But the grand jury decided it wasn't an act of the government but of Maduro and 4 of his cronies.
Nazi Germany used to invent crimes as a pretext to invading other countries. You have not produced any evidence of these crimes and your backing of Gaiudo means you are prejudiced. Its a joke and would be laughed at if the US was not so powerful. You are a rogue state.

Mr. Maduro was actually indicted by a grand jury. Are you making the suggestion that American citizens doing their civic duty are "nazis"or something?
 

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