Mexico Is Dangerously Unprepared For The Inevitable Wuhan Coronavirus Outbreak

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Mexico Is Dangerously Unprepared For The Inevitable Wuhan Coronavirus Outbreak
The disease is going to spread fast in Mexico, where a weak and corrupt state has made almost no preparations.



https://thefederalist.com/2020/03/16...#disqus_thread
16 Mar 2020 ~~ By John Daniel Davidson
As much of the world goes into various stages of lock down because of the Wuhan coronavirus, Mexico is in denial. The government’s response thus far has been to downplay the risks and carry on with life as normal. Mexican officialdom has taken almost no steps to contain the virus or prepare for an outbreak, despite a warning last week from the deputy health minister that a widespread outbreak is inevitable and that community transmission could begin there in a matter of weeks.
When that happens—not if, when—things are going to deteriorate very quickly in Mexico. The outbreak will almost certainly affect the entire country, cripple the economy, and threaten to bring down an already weak and corrupt government.
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All of the confirmed cases in Mexico so far have come from travelers arriving from Italy, Spain, and the United States, yet López Obrador’s administration has imposed no international travel restrictions nor taken any steps to tighten the border. According to one news report, passengers on a flight that arrived Friday in Mexico City from Spain—which imposed sweeping emergency restrictions over the weekend in response to a surging death toll—passed through passport control and customs with no health surveys or temperature screenings.
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Simply put, Mexico has almost no ability to control vast swaths of its own territory in normal times. The state is endemically weak, with powerful cartels exercising a kind of de facto sovereignty over much of the country. State and institutional power matter most in times of war and pandemic, and Mexico is in dangerously short supply of both. When the coronavirus hits there, we might wish we had finished building that wall a long time ago.


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Personally, I don't believe the disease is the problem, it's the panic created by the politicians and their co-conspiratorial media. That aid, I am suspicious of the reports from Mexico... It's well known that the Health and Medical programs of Mexico are less efficient there than other developed nations.
One bright ray that has come of this viral infection is that now even Democrats see the value of a border wall...
 

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And I don't live in Mexico ... so?
 

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53 confirmed cases, 4 recovered, and no deaths in Mexico.

Must be all those hot peppers they eat. Maybe we should swarm their border and climb over the wall.

Anyone up for a caravan?
 

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I doubt it. This particular strain of corona virus, cannot survive summer heat.
 

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Will I be safe if I continue to watch the Mexican Weather Channel?

 

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Mexico Is Dangerously Unprepared For The Inevitable Wuhan Coronavirus Outbreak
The disease is going to spread fast in Mexico, where a weak and corrupt state has made almost no preparations.



https://thefederalist.com/2020/03/16...#disqus_thread
16 Mar 2020 ~~ By John Daniel Davidson
As much of the world goes into various stages of lock down because of the Wuhan coronavirus, Mexico is in denial. The government’s response thus far has been to downplay the risks and carry on with life as normal. Mexican officialdom has taken almost no steps to contain the virus or prepare for an outbreak, despite a warning last week from the deputy health minister that a widespread outbreak is inevitable and that community transmission could begin there in a matter of weeks.
When that happens—not if, when—things are going to deteriorate very quickly in Mexico. The outbreak will almost certainly affect the entire country, cripple the economy, and threaten to bring down an already weak and corrupt government.
~~ Snip ~~
All of the confirmed cases in Mexico so far have come from travelers arriving from Italy, Spain, and the United States, yet López Obrador’s administration has imposed no international travel restrictions nor taken any steps to tighten the border. According to one news report, passengers on a flight that arrived Friday in Mexico City from Spain—which imposed sweeping emergency restrictions over the weekend in response to a surging death toll—passed through passport control and customs with no health surveys or temperature screenings.
~~ Snip ~~
Simply put, Mexico has almost no ability to control vast swaths of its own territory in normal times. The state is endemically weak, with powerful cartels exercising a kind of de facto sovereignty over much of the country. State and institutional power matter most in times of war and pandemic, and Mexico is in dangerously short supply of both. When the coronavirus hits there, we might wish we had finished building that wall a long time ago.


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Personally, I don't believe the disease is the problem, it's the panic created by the politicians and their co-conspiratorial media. That aid, I am suspicious of the reports from Mexico... It's well known that the Health and Medical programs of Mexico are less efficient there than other developed nations.
One bright ray that has come of this viral infection is that now even Democrats see the value of a border wall...
Well now let's check the numbers, shall we?

Mexico:
53 cases. Zero deaths. One active case in serious/critical condition. Rate of infection 0.4 per 1M population.

For comparison, in the US:
4552 cases, 85 deaths, twelve active cases in serious/critical condition, Rate of Infection 13.8 per 1M population.

/thread
 

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I doubt it. This particular strain of corona virus, cannot survive summer heat.
Are you sure about that? Because Tom Hanks and his wife went down to Australia and caught the virus when they got there. By the way, currently, it's summer in Australia.
 

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Are you sure about that? Because Tom Hanks and his wife went down to Australia and caught the virus when they got there
I couldn't have happened on that 16-hour flight breathing reciruclated air, right?

 

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Are you sure about that? Because Tom Hanks and his wife went down to Australia and caught the virus when they got there
I couldn't have happened on that 16-hour flight breathing reciruclated air, right?

You're right, it could have happened on the flight. However.............saying that the summer heat will kill it is wrong, because currently it is summer in Australia, and they have 298 cases currently, with 27 recovered and 5 that have died.

And...............not all those cases came from outside the country. Here's the latest updates................

Coronavirus (COVID-19) current situation and case numbers

Case details
Of the 298 confirmed cases in Australia, 27 have recovered and 5 have died from COVID-19.

151 cases had direct or indirect links to travel outside of Australia:

  • 15 cases to Wuhan, China
  • 10 cases, including 1 death, to the Diamond Princess cruise ship repatriation flight from Japan
  • 19 cases to Iran
  • 39 cases to the United States
  • 16 cases to Italy
  • 77 cases to other countries and regions
11 cases had links to places of exposure:

  • 9 cases to an aged care facility in New South Wales
  • 2 cases to attendance at a workshop
29 cases are close contacts of known cases.

The likely place of exposure for 82 newly reported cases is under investigation.
 

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I doubt it. This particular strain of corona virus, cannot survive summer heat.
Are you sure about that? Because Tom Hanks and his wife went down to Australia and caught the virus when they got there. By the way, currently, it's summer in Australia.
Reasonably certain, but nothing is 100%. Already in Singapore, the number of infections has fallen dramatically.

Here's a good article from NPR-
Can Coronavirus Be Crushed By Warmer Weather?
 

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Mexico Is Dangerously Unprepared For The Inevitable Wuhan Coronavirus Outbreak
The disease is going to spread fast in Mexico, where a weak and corrupt state has made almost no preparations.



https://thefederalist.com/2020/03/16...#disqus_thread
16 Mar 2020 ~~ By John Daniel Davidson
As much of the world goes into various stages of lock down because of the Wuhan coronavirus, Mexico is in denial. The government’s response thus far has been to downplay the risks and carry on with life as normal. Mexican officialdom has taken almost no steps to contain the virus or prepare for an outbreak, despite a warning last week from the deputy health minister that a widespread outbreak is inevitable and that community transmission could begin there in a matter of weeks.
When that happens—not if, when—things are going to deteriorate very quickly in Mexico. The outbreak will almost certainly affect the entire country, cripple the economy, and threaten to bring down an already weak and corrupt government.
~~ Snip ~~
All of the confirmed cases in Mexico so far have come from travelers arriving from Italy, Spain, and the United States, yet López Obrador’s administration has imposed no international travel restrictions nor taken any steps to tighten the border. According to one news report, passengers on a flight that arrived Friday in Mexico City from Spain—which imposed sweeping emergency restrictions over the weekend in response to a surging death toll—passed through passport control and customs with no health surveys or temperature screenings.
~~ Snip ~~
Simply put, Mexico has almost no ability to control vast swaths of its own territory in normal times. The state is endemically weak, with powerful cartels exercising a kind of de facto sovereignty over much of the country. State and institutional power matter most in times of war and pandemic, and Mexico is in dangerously short supply of both. When the coronavirus hits there, we might wish we had finished building that wall a long time ago.


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Personally, I don't believe the disease is the problem, it's the panic created by the politicians and their co-conspiratorial media. That aid, I am suspicious of the reports from Mexico... It's well known that the Health and Medical programs of Mexico are less efficient there than other developed nations.
One bright ray that has come of this viral infection is that now even Democrats see the value of a border wall...
Well now let's check the numbers, shall we?

Mexico:
53 cases. Zero deaths. One active case in serious/critical condition. Rate of infection 0.4 per 1M population.

For comparison, in the US:
4552 cases, 85 deaths, twelve active cases in serious/critical condition, Rate of Infection 13.8 per 1M population.

/thread
So...because they don’t test anyone, there’s no problem?
 

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Are you sure about that? Because Tom Hanks and his wife went down to Australia and caught the virus when they got there
I couldn't have happened on that 16-hour flight breathing reciruclated air, right?

You're right, it could have happened on the flight. However.............saying that the summer heat will kill it is wrong, because currently it is summer in Australia, and they have 298 cases currently, with 27 recovered and 5 that have died.

And...............not all those cases came from outside the country. Here's the latest updates................

Coronavirus (COVID-19) current situation and case numbers

Case details
Of the 298 confirmed cases in Australia, 27 have recovered and 5 have died from COVID-19.

151 cases had direct or indirect links to travel outside of Australia:

  • 15 cases to Wuhan, China
  • 10 cases, including 1 death, to the Diamond Princess cruise ship repatriation flight from Japan
  • 19 cases to Iran
  • 39 cases to the United States
  • 16 cases to Italy
  • 77 cases to other countries and regions
11 cases had links to places of exposure:

  • 9 cases to an aged care facility in New South Wales
  • 2 cases to attendance at a workshop
29 cases are close contacts of known cases.

The likely place of exposure for 82 newly reported cases is under investigation.
Air conditioning.
 

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Are you sure about that? Because Tom Hanks and his wife went down to Australia and caught the virus when they got there
I couldn't have happened on that 16-hour flight breathing reciruclated air, right?

You're right, it could have happened on the flight. However.............saying that the summer heat will kill it is wrong, because currently it is summer in Australia, and they have 298 cases currently, with 27 recovered and 5 that have died.

And...............not all those cases came from outside the country. Here's the latest updates................

Coronavirus (COVID-19) current situation and case numbers

Singapore, Malaysia, and Indonesia, are perpetually in summer and they've had outbreaks as well.

Proximity seems to be more important that temperature. While Australia is a sparsely populated country, that population tends to be concentrated in urban centers. Most Americans tend to live more spread out.

Case details
Of the 298 confirmed cases in Australia, 27 have recovered and 5 have died from COVID-19.

151 cases had direct or indirect links to travel outside of Australia:

  • 15 cases to Wuhan, China
  • 10 cases, including 1 death, to the Diamond Princess cruise ship repatriation flight from Japan
  • 19 cases to Iran
  • 39 cases to the United States
  • 16 cases to Italy
  • 77 cases to other countries and regions
11 cases had links to places of exposure:

  • 9 cases to an aged care facility in New South Wales
  • 2 cases to attendance at a workshop
29 cases are close contacts of known cases.

The likely place of exposure for 82 newly reported cases is under investigation.
 

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I doubt it. This particular strain of corona virus, cannot survive summer heat.
Are you sure about that? Because Tom Hanks and his wife went down to Australia and caught the virus when they got there. By the way, currently, it's summer in Australia.
Reasonably certain, but nothing is 100%. Already in Singapore, the number of infections has fallen dramatically.

Here's a good article from NPR-
Can Coronavirus Be Crushed By Warmer Weather?
Well, check post 12, because it's got a link to the current rate of cases in Australia, and they have over 298 cases, and 5 people have already died.
 

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Mexico Is Dangerously Unprepared For The Inevitable Wuhan Coronavirus Outbreak
The disease is going to spread fast in Mexico, where a weak and corrupt state has made almost no preparations.



https://thefederalist.com/2020/03/16...#disqus_thread
16 Mar 2020 ~~ By John Daniel Davidson
As much of the world goes into various stages of lock down because of the Wuhan coronavirus, Mexico is in denial. The government’s response thus far has been to downplay the risks and carry on with life as normal. Mexican officialdom has taken almost no steps to contain the virus or prepare for an outbreak, despite a warning last week from the deputy health minister that a widespread outbreak is inevitable and that community transmission could begin there in a matter of weeks.
When that happens—not if, when—things are going to deteriorate very quickly in Mexico. The outbreak will almost certainly affect the entire country, cripple the economy, and threaten to bring down an already weak and corrupt government.
~~ Snip ~~
All of the confirmed cases in Mexico so far have come from travelers arriving from Italy, Spain, and the United States, yet López Obrador’s administration has imposed no international travel restrictions nor taken any steps to tighten the border. According to one news report, passengers on a flight that arrived Friday in Mexico City from Spain—which imposed sweeping emergency restrictions over the weekend in response to a surging death toll—passed through passport control and customs with no health surveys or temperature screenings.
~~ Snip ~~
Simply put, Mexico has almost no ability to control vast swaths of its own territory in normal times. The state is endemically weak, with powerful cartels exercising a kind of de facto sovereignty over much of the country. State and institutional power matter most in times of war and pandemic, and Mexico is in dangerously short supply of both. When the coronavirus hits there, we might wish we had finished building that wall a long time ago.


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Personally, I don't believe the disease is the problem, it's the panic created by the politicians and their co-conspiratorial media. That aid, I am suspicious of the reports from Mexico... It's well known that the Health and Medical programs of Mexico are less efficient there than other developed nations.
One bright ray that has come of this viral infection is that now even Democrats see the value of a border wall...
Well now let's check the numbers, shall we?

Mexico:
53 cases. Zero deaths. One active case in serious/critical condition. Rate of infection 0.4 per 1M population.

For comparison, in the US:
4552 cases, 85 deaths, twelve active cases in serious/critical condition, Rate of Infection 13.8 per 1M population.

/thread
But just think of how well that wall is protecting those poor Mexicans.

Do you want them to get infected from us or something?
 

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I doubt it. This particular strain of corona virus, cannot survive summer heat.
Are you sure about that? Because Tom Hanks and his wife went down to Australia and caught the virus when they got there. By the way, currently, it's summer in Australia.
Reasonably certain, but nothing is 100%. Already in Singapore, the number of infections has fallen dramatically.

Here's a good article from NPR-
Can Coronavirus Be Crushed By Warmer Weather?
Well, check post 12, because it's got a link to the current rate of cases in Australia, and they have over 298 cases, and 5 people have already died.
25.5 million people and 5 died, .....yeah, lets all panic!!
 

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I doubt it. This particular strain of corona virus, cannot survive summer heat.
Are you sure about that? Because Tom Hanks and his wife went down to Australia and caught the virus when they got there. By the way, currently, it's summer in Australia.
Reasonably certain, but nothing is 100%. Already in Singapore, the number of infections has fallen dramatically.

Here's a good article from NPR-
Can Coronavirus Be Crushed By Warmer Weather?
Well, check post 12, because it's got a link to the current rate of cases in Australia, and they have over 298 cases, and 5 people have already died.
25.5 million people and 5 died, .....yeah, lets all panic!!
Again, the point went right over your head. One poster said that summertime would kill the virus because of the heat. I then pointed out that it is currently summertime in Australia, but they still have 298 cases, with more being reported daily. No, summer will more than likely not kill this virus.
 

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