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This is bullshit. All Saudi students helped new arrivals find an apartment, open a bank account etc.Newly released video shows 9/11 hijackers with alleged Saudi intelligence operative
Less than two weeks after 9/11, boxes of evidence, including personal notes and video, were seized by British police from a home in Birmingham, England.
The main point of interest is the fact that ties to Saudi were withheld for so long.
Who me? I think it's too obvious to need an explanation. Am I obliged to give an explanation?What is it that you want to debate?
For the sake of debate, no it's not b.s.This is bullshit. All Saudi students helped new arrivals find an apartment, open a bank account etc.
Bayoumi had a sick wife and five kids. She had breast cancer. The family was receiving an extra stipend from one of the Suderi Seven wives for medical treatment. Nothing unusual about that. Saudi students have been coming to the US since the early 1950s.Who me? I think it's too obvious to need an explanation. Am I obliged to give an explanation?
I'm pretty sure that numerous debating points will arise from a discussion. Even if the best could be somebody rejecting all of it because of their undestanding that it was America's government that did the hijacking and the subsequent damage.
Let's use that to fill the need, if there's one needed.
For the sake of debate, no it's not b.s.
It's YOUR thread in the Clean Debate Zone.Who me? I think it's too obvious to need an explanation. Am I obliged to give an explanation?
I'm pretty sure that numerous debating points will arise from a discussion. Even if the best could be somebody rejecting all of it because of their undestanding that it was America's government that did the hijacking and the subsequent damage.
Let's use that to fill the need, if there's one needed.
For the sake of debate, no it's not b.s.
They have rehashed this stupid lie for 20 years.It's YOUR thread in the Clean Debate Zone.
Could have just posted in Current Events the way you packaged it.
As far as you using Surada's post, well, it violates the Clean Debate Zone rules
What's the violation? I think the violation was by Surada, but I'm not offended and I can't imagine why anybody would be offended.It's YOUR thread in the Clean Debate Zone.
Could have just posted in Current Events the way you packaged it.
As far as you using Surada's post, well, it violates the Clean Debate Zone rules
Osama bin Laden hated the Saudis for revoking his citizenship in 1996. He wanted to start a war between the Saudis and the US. What is wrong with you? Why are you helping OBL posthumously?Newly released video shows 9/11 hijackers with alleged Saudi intelligence operative
Less than two weeks after 9/11, boxes of evidence, including personal notes and video, were seized by British police from a home in Birmingham, England.
The main point of interest is the fact that ties to Saudi were withheld for so long.
What lie are you referring to? It appears to be new information in my opinion.They have rehashed this stupid lie for 20 years.
It's the same old BS from 20 years ago. Why are you helping OBL?What lie are you referring to? It appears to be new information in my opinion.
I don't think it's appropriate to ask me what's wrong with me. I've attempted to use the 'clean debate zone' so that we can stay polite and to the topic.Osama bin Laden hated the Saudis for revoking his citizenship in 1996. He wanted to start a war between the Saudis and the US. What is wrong with you? Why are you helping OBL posthumously?
He hated Saudi Arabia and the leadership because they revoked his citizenship. He wanted 9/11 to have a Saudi face. All Saudi students in the US are government employees. These people are imbeciles.I don't think it's appropriate to ask me what's wrong with me. I've attempted to use the 'clean debate zone' so that we can stay polite and to the topic.
I wouldn't dispute your submission that Osama hated the Saudis, but because it's ambiguous on who you are calling the Saudis. The government? The monarchy? A member of the monarchy? The Saudi people?
Let's not dash ahead with irrelevant innuendoes here.
Bayoumi was employed by Saudi government and that's a relevant issue to begin with, that can cause concern with some.
No, he was a revolutionary and that didn't generate his will to attack America due to his citizenship being revoked.He hated Saudi Arabia and the leadership because they revoked his citizenship. He wanted 9/11 to have a Saudi face. All Saudi students in the US are government employees. These people are imbeciles.
OBL hated the Saudis and he hated the US because of Palestine. He attacked the US and believed that he could get even with the Saudis too.No, he was a revolutionary and that didn't generate his will to attack America due to his citizenship being revoked.
How can you make that conclusion work? He stated his reasons for what he did. You can restate those reasons here if you are aware, and save me the bother.
There's little apparent interest in this topic. There's an aura of sour grapes overtaking the forum but it could improve later in the day. Unfortunately, IMO, at least half are not interested in rational discussion.
Doesn't make any sense but do try to explain what you are trying to say.OBL hated the Saudis and he hated the US because of Palestine.
That's true. Operation Mass Appeal began demonizing Iraq in 1998. Bibi demanded the overthrow of Saddam in Clean Break Strategy in 1996. See Sir Derek Plumbly. Remember the BS when Brits were blowing each other up in Arabia in November of 2000. Their false flags were so sloppy. They claimed it was booze wars. The expat community was howling with laughter.Doesn't make any sense but do try to explain what you are trying to say.
I'm surprised that there's little interest in this topic now.. The Martian conspiracy theorists get more attention that this.
Bush2 used the 911 hits for the purpose of demonizing Iraq that justified the war. The biggest lie was that Saddam wasn't guilty and that's been settled.
But another big lie is pretending that America thought Saddam was guilty. It could be that many are shy of any topic that would cause that lie to be revisited.
It can be contended that America is and has been since the end of WW2, the world's most guilty aggressor by far.
That can't be allowed to be associated with the current war of America against Russia. We know that war historians and leading war analysts are very suspicious.
I've been around a few times. Of interest to you would be Stephen Pelletiere's testimony on Saddam not being guilty of gassing civilians. Pelletiere was section leader of the CIA branch that was responsible for the particular incident being reported.That's true. Operation Mass Appeal began demonizing Iraq in 1998. Bibi demanded the overthrow of Saddam in Clean Break Strategy in 1996. See Sir Derek Plumbly. Remember the BS when Brits were blowing each other up in Arabia in November of 2000. Their false flags were so sloppy. They claimed it was booze wars. The expat community was howling with laughter.
They have known about Bayoumi for 2 decades. This is garbage. Shame on you.Newly released video shows 9/11 hijackers with alleged Saudi intelligence operative
Less than two weeks after 9/11, boxes of evidence, including personal notes and video, were seized by British police from a home in Birmingham, England.
The main point of interest is the fact that ties to Saudi were withheld for so long.
