Newly declassified JFK files reveal Lyndon B. Johnson was in the KKK

[Pogo]

JFK Files: Iconic Democrat President Was a KKK Member (Report)

There were plenty of interesting factoids to come out of the recent JFK files release: The CIA considered mob hits on Fidel Castro, someone called the FBI threatening to kill Lee Harvey Oswald a day before Oswald’s murder, and the U.S. examined sabotaging airplane parts heading to Cuba.

There was even proof that the CIA used journalists and media figures to spread propaganda.

Additionally, we got confirmation that President Kennedy’s successor following his assassination, Lyndon B. Johnson, was possibly a member of the KKK.

One of the newly released files contains a memo about a journalist named Ned Touchstone, who was an editor of The Councilor, the newsletter of the racist White Citizens’ Councils.

Touchstone claimed the Ku Klux Klan had “documented proof” that LBJ had been a member of the Klan in the early days of his political career in Texas...

...That Johnson would have been a member of the Klan wouldn’t be much of a surprise, frankly. As a member of the Senate, he fought vigorously against civil rights legislation favored by President Eisenhower and Republicans. Early in his political career, Johnson was guilty of all kinds of statements in support of Jim Crow laws in the South.

This isn’t verified proof that Johnson was indeed part of the Klan. But given the political circumstances from which he rose (deep South, Democrat-dominated Texas), it’s not that far-fetched. In fact, more likely than not, Johnson mixed around with a racist crowd to get his political start.

Consider that in the context of this anti-Barry Goldwater 1964 presidential campaign commercial…


Bill Clinton's mentor was J. William Fulbright:

J. William Fulbright - Wikipedia

James William Fulbright (April 9, 1905 – February 9, 1995) was a United States Senator representing Arkansas from January 1945 until his resignation in December 1974. Fulbright is the longest serving chairman in the history of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. A Southern Democrat and a staunch multilateralist who supported the creation of the United Nations, he was also a segregationist who signed the Southern Manifesto. Fulbright opposed McCarthyism and the House Un-American Activities Committee and later became known for his opposition to American involvement in the Vietnam War...

But Trump is the racist. Riiiiiiiiiiiiight.

I STRONGLY suggest you read the warning labels on whatever propellants you're smoking.

Johnson was in fact the first POTUS to prosecute the Klan since US Grant in the 1870s. As a small boy Johnson was secured in the family house while his father and uncles stayed up with shotguns anticipating a visit the Klan had threatened. They did that because Johnson's father Sam had vigorously denounced them in the state legislature in Austin.

That's what he's referring to here with "my father fought them and I have fought them all my life"

​

And in the 1950s the Klan burned a cross on LBJ's property.

Go beg for quarters on the street until you have enough change to buy a fucking history book.

And in the future you might want to base your story sources on people who actually have a last name, rather than simply "Matt". Good CHRIST.

 

[Pogo]

For the poor colonel angus I must try to explain that in 1964 the political platforms started to transpose so the dems became libs and rethuglians became rascists. And i though everybody knew LBJ was a klan man.

Er, um LBJ was a Republican....of course! So was Byrd!!

LBJ "I'll have them ****** voting Republican for the next 200 years"

 

[CrusaderFrank]

For the poor colonel angus I must try to explain that in 1964 the political platforms started to transpose so the dems became libs and rethuglians became rascists. And i though everybody knew LBJ was a klan man.

Er, um LBJ was a Republican....of course! So was Byrd!!

LBJ "I'll have them ****** voting Republican for the next 200 years"

Can you imagine had Nixon said that or if Truman experimented on blacks by corrupting the Tuskegee Experiment so that the government could see how black men died and were wasted by syphilis?

 

[Pogo]

You get your history that has been rewritten, omitting facts that are pertinent to what he really did, and would thoroughly change your opinion.
I’m a Texan, born and bred, as well as those before me. If you truly seek the truth, you can find it. It is on the net today, written as it truly was back then. LBJ was a racist, to his core.

Bill Moyers is also a Texan, born and bred, who was up close and personal with Johnson, and he says you're full of Texas-size shit.

 

[Pogo]

JFK Files: Iconic Democrat President Was a KKK Member (Report)

There were plenty of interesting factoids to come out of the recent JFK files release: The CIA considered mob hits on Fidel Castro, someone called the FBI threatening to kill Lee Harvey Oswald a day before Oswald’s murder, and the U.S. examined sabotaging airplane parts heading to Cuba.

There was even proof that the CIA used journalists and media figures to spread propaganda.

Additionally, we got confirmation that President Kennedy’s successor following his assassination, Lyndon B. Johnson, was possibly a member of the KKK.

One of the newly released files contains a memo about a journalist named Ned Touchstone, who was an editor of The Councilor, the newsletter of the racist White Citizens’ Councils.

Touchstone claimed the Ku Klux Klan had “documented proof” that LBJ had been a member of the Klan in the early days of his political career in Texas...

...That Johnson would have been a member of the Klan wouldn’t be much of a surprise, frankly. As a member of the Senate, he fought vigorously against civil rights legislation favored by President Eisenhower and Republicans. Early in his political career, Johnson was guilty of all kinds of statements in support of Jim Crow laws in the South.

This isn’t verified proof that Johnson was indeed part of the Klan. But given the political circumstances from which he rose (deep South, Democrat-dominated Texas), it’s not that far-fetched. In fact, more likely than not, Johnson mixed around with a racist crowd to get his political start.

Consider that in the context of this anti-Barry Goldwater 1964 presidential campaign commercial…









Bill Clinton's mentor was J. William Fulbright:

J. William Fulbright - Wikipedia

James William Fulbright (April 9, 1905 – February 9, 1995) was a United States Senator representing Arkansas from January 1945 until his resignation in December 1974. Fulbright is the longest serving chairman in the history of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. A Southern Democrat and a staunch multilateralist who supported the creation of the United Nations, he was also a segregationist who signed the Southern Manifesto. Fulbright opposed McCarthyism and the House Un-American Activities Committee and later became known for his opposition to American involvement in the Vietnam War...

But Trump is the racist. Riiiiiiiiiiiiight.

Okay let me see if I can follow this
Back in 1963- an unnamed confidential informant- said another guy named Ned Touchstone- claimed that the Klan had documented proof that LBJ was at one time a member of the KKK.

Well that is certainly solid proof.

Not like that first hand accusation by the named woman who said Roy Moore tried to rape her 40 years ago.

That you won't believe- but this- this you will.

LOL

Of course, because if you can't believe the Klan, who can you believe? Oh wait, that's right, you can believe Adolf Hitler, when he claimed to be a "socialist". Whatever feeds the Bubble Myth, hell give me a Klanner, a Nazi, an sleaze who hangs out at the Gadsden Mall hunting nascent beaver, and I'll call them a credible source.

And I'll cite an article written by "Matt". That's all, just "Matt". Because in Duh Bubble, "Matt Says So" passes for documentation. Oh and I'm sure there are real people walking around with the family name "Touchstone" too.

Funny shit.

 

[mudwhistle]

JFK Files: Iconic Democrat President Was a KKK Member (Report)

There were plenty of interesting factoids to come out of the recent JFK files release: The CIA considered mob hits on Fidel Castro, someone called the FBI threatening to kill Lee Harvey Oswald a day before Oswald’s murder, and the U.S. examined sabotaging airplane parts heading to Cuba.

There was even proof that the CIA used journalists and media figures to spread propaganda.

Additionally, we got confirmation that President Kennedy’s successor following his assassination, Lyndon B. Johnson, was possibly a member of the KKK.

One of the newly released files contains a memo about a journalist named Ned Touchstone, who was an editor of The Councilor, the newsletter of the racist White Citizens’ Councils.

Touchstone claimed the Ku Klux Klan had “documented proof” that LBJ had been a member of the Klan in the early days of his political career in Texas...

...That Johnson would have been a member of the Klan wouldn’t be much of a surprise, frankly. As a member of the Senate, he fought vigorously against civil rights legislation favored by President Eisenhower and Republicans. Early in his political career, Johnson was guilty of all kinds of statements in support of Jim Crow laws in the South.

This isn’t verified proof that Johnson was indeed part of the Klan. But given the political circumstances from which he rose (deep South, Democrat-dominated Texas), it’s not that far-fetched. In fact, more likely than not, Johnson mixed around with a racist crowd to get his political start.

Consider that in the context of this anti-Barry Goldwater 1964 presidential campaign commercial…









Bill Clinton's mentor was J. William Fulbright:

J. William Fulbright - Wikipedia

James William Fulbright (April 9, 1905 – February 9, 1995) was a United States Senator representing Arkansas from January 1945 until his resignation in December 1974. Fulbright is the longest serving chairman in the history of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. A Southern Democrat and a staunch multilateralist who supported the creation of the United Nations, he was also a segregationist who signed the Southern Manifesto. Fulbright opposed McCarthyism and the House Un-American Activities Committee and later became known for his opposition to American involvement in the Vietnam War...

But Trump is the racist. Riiiiiiiiiiiiight.

Oh no.....TRUMP IS AN ALLEGED MEMBER OF THE KLAN......so we must ignore the fact that Hillary admires former Grand Wizards and the founder of Planned-Parenthood who was a practitioner of Eugenics and a white supremacist.

 

[depotoo]

Bill Moyers, I suspect is a closet racist himself, if he denies it.

You get your history that has been rewritten, omitting facts that are pertinent to what he really did, and would thoroughly change your opinion.
I’m a Texan, born and bred, as well as those before me. If you truly seek the truth, you can find it. It is on the net today, written as it truly was back then. LBJ was a racist, to his core.

Bill Moyers is also a Texan, born and bred, who was up close and personal with Johnson, and he says you're full of Texas-size shit.

 

[mudwhistle]

JFK Files: Iconic Democrat President Was a KKK Member (Report)

There were plenty of interesting factoids to come out of the recent JFK files release: The CIA considered mob hits on Fidel Castro, someone called the FBI threatening to kill Lee Harvey Oswald a day before Oswald’s murder, and the U.S. examined sabotaging airplane parts heading to Cuba.

There was even proof that the CIA used journalists and media figures to spread propaganda.

Additionally, we got confirmation that President Kennedy’s successor following his assassination, Lyndon B. Johnson, was possibly a member of the KKK.

One of the newly released files contains a memo about a journalist named Ned Touchstone, who was an editor of The Councilor, the newsletter of the racist White Citizens’ Councils.

Touchstone claimed the Ku Klux Klan had “documented proof” that LBJ had been a member of the Klan in the early days of his political career in Texas...

...That Johnson would have been a member of the Klan wouldn’t be much of a surprise, frankly. As a member of the Senate, he fought vigorously against civil rights legislation favored by President Eisenhower and Republicans. Early in his political career, Johnson was guilty of all kinds of statements in support of Jim Crow laws in the South.

This isn’t verified proof that Johnson was indeed part of the Klan. But given the political circumstances from which he rose (deep South, Democrat-dominated Texas), it’s not that far-fetched. In fact, more likely than not, Johnson mixed around with a racist crowd to get his political start.

Consider that in the context of this anti-Barry Goldwater 1964 presidential campaign commercial…


Bill Clinton's mentor was J. William Fulbright:

J. William Fulbright - Wikipedia

James William Fulbright (April 9, 1905 – February 9, 1995) was a United States Senator representing Arkansas from January 1945 until his resignation in December 1974. Fulbright is the longest serving chairman in the history of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. A Southern Democrat and a staunch multilateralist who supported the creation of the United Nations, he was also a segregationist who signed the Southern Manifesto. Fulbright opposed McCarthyism and the House Un-American Activities Committee and later became known for his opposition to American involvement in the Vietnam War...

But Trump is the racist. Riiiiiiiiiiiiight.

I STRONGLY suggest you read the warning labels on whatever propellants you're smoking.

Johnson was in fact the first POTUS to prosecute the Klan since US Grant in the 1870s. As a small boy Johnson was secured in the family house while his father and uncles stayed up with shotguns anticipating a visit the Klan had threatened. They did that because Johnson's father Sam had vigorously denounced them in the state legislature in Austin.

That's what he's referring to here with "my father fought them and I have fought them all my life"

​

And in the 1950s the Klan burned a cross on LBJ's property.

Go beg for quarters on the street until you have enough change to buy a fucking history book.

And in the future you might want to base your story sources on people who actually have a last name, rather than simply "Matt". Good CHRIST.

OMG!!!!
Former Klan member got the burning cross treatment from a bunch of assholes that felt he was a ******-lover. Why do you think that could happen?
Could it be because he was JFK's VP?

Idiots decided that he felt the same way as his boss.

Bet that never happened before. lol

 

[Pogo]

You get your history that has been rewritten, omitting facts that are pertinent to what he really did, and would thoroughly change your opinion.
I’m a Texan, born and bred, as well as those before me. If you truly seek the truth, you can find it. It is on the net today, written as it truly was back then. LBJ was a racist, to his core.

Your history lessons have been decent obviously, as what you said is a farce. He continually refused to choose a Black to sit on nya, when instructed.

So, despite the thread title, there actually is zero evidence. I thought so. LBJ was 'notorious' for finding money for black colleges in East Texas to keep their doors open during the Depression, something that wouldn't have gained him anything at all, and in fact hurt him at the polls. Sorry, but no Klan member, much less a purely self-interested politician, would even think of doing such things as that, much less be openly supporting FDR. You guys really need to up your games here; the conspiracy theory forums are making you stupid.

I get my history lessons from historians; I realize theirs doesn't ever match the lessons from spammers and hacks, but then I don't care. about those nor the opinions of those whose cite them. It was LBJ who got blacks into the NYA programs in the first place, so your sniveling doesn't count for much, considering the politics of the 1930's, and that had to be done quietly to be done at all, and done at considerable political risk to a man who is allegedly only out for himself.

JOHNSON, LYNDON BAINES | The Handbook of Texas Online| Texas State Historical Association (TSHA)

"To be shot at by the whites and dodged by the negroes": Lyndon Johnson and the Texas NYA. - Free Online Library

LBJ was both a racist- and also the President who did more for Civil Rights than any President since Lincoln.

By holding up in the Senate for 7 year an identical Civil Rights Bill put forth by Ike, a bill LBJ called the, "Ngger Bill"

Actually in the quote, however apocryphal, you refer to here, he's pushing to pass the bill. He's speaking to a Southern colleague and code-switching, which he did as adeptly as anybody. I believe the actual attributed quote was "why won't you let this ****** bill pass?"

"Code-switching" means adapting one's own speech to synch with one's listener to create common ground for assent. Everybody does it -- one talks one way to one's boss, another way to one's children, one way to a stranger, another way to a dog. One way to a foreigner, another way to a neighbor. Here LBJ is speaking in the white-Southern vernacular in order to reach his listener. That is, if the quote is real at all.

But this attempt at dichotomy where the use of the word "******" can have only one simple meaning, falls flat. Go ask a black rapper if he means the same thing by the term as a white KKK hooder does. Good luck with that. And again, in the statement he's backing the bill, not opposing it.

 

[Pogo]

JFK Files: Iconic Democrat President Was a KKK Member (Report)

There were plenty of interesting factoids to come out of the recent JFK files release: The CIA considered mob hits on Fidel Castro, someone called the FBI threatening to kill Lee Harvey Oswald a day before Oswald’s murder, and the U.S. examined sabotaging airplane parts heading to Cuba.

There was even proof that the CIA used journalists and media figures to spread propaganda.

Additionally, we got confirmation that President Kennedy’s successor following his assassination, Lyndon B. Johnson, was possibly a member of the KKK.

One of the newly released files contains a memo about a journalist named Ned Touchstone, who was an editor of The Councilor, the newsletter of the racist White Citizens’ Councils.

Touchstone claimed the Ku Klux Klan had “documented proof” that LBJ had been a member of the Klan in the early days of his political career in Texas...

...That Johnson would have been a member of the Klan wouldn’t be much of a surprise, frankly. As a member of the Senate, he fought vigorously against civil rights legislation favored by President Eisenhower and Republicans. Early in his political career, Johnson was guilty of all kinds of statements in support of Jim Crow laws in the South.

This isn’t verified proof that Johnson was indeed part of the Klan. But given the political circumstances from which he rose (deep South, Democrat-dominated Texas), it’s not that far-fetched. In fact, more likely than not, Johnson mixed around with a racist crowd to get his political start.

Consider that in the context of this anti-Barry Goldwater 1964 presidential campaign commercial…


Bill Clinton's mentor was J. William Fulbright:

J. William Fulbright - Wikipedia

James William Fulbright (April 9, 1905 – February 9, 1995) was a United States Senator representing Arkansas from January 1945 until his resignation in December 1974. Fulbright is the longest serving chairman in the history of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. A Southern Democrat and a staunch multilateralist who supported the creation of the United Nations, he was also a segregationist who signed the Southern Manifesto. Fulbright opposed McCarthyism and the House Un-American Activities Committee and later became known for his opposition to American involvement in the Vietnam War...

But Trump is the racist. Riiiiiiiiiiiiight.

I STRONGLY suggest you read the warning labels on whatever propellants you're smoking.

Johnson was in fact the first POTUS to prosecute the Klan since US Grant in the 1870s. As a small boy Johnson was secured in the family house while his father and uncles stayed up with shotguns anticipating a visit the Klan had threatened. They did that because Johnson's father Sam had vigorously denounced them in the state legislature in Austin.

That's what he's referring to here with "my father fought them and I have fought them all my life"

​

And in the 1950s the Klan burned a cross on LBJ's property.

Go beg for quarters on the street until you have enough change to buy a fucking history book.

And in the future you might want to base your story sources on people who actually have a last name, rather than simply "Matt". Good CHRIST.

OMG!!!!
Former Klan member got the burning cross treatment from a bunch of assholes that felt he was a ******-lover. Why do you think that could happen?
Could it be because he was JFK's VP?

Idiots decided that he felt the same way as his boss.

Bet that never happened before. lol

Considering this was in the mid-1950s, when LBJ was a Senator and not a VP, and that linear time exists ---- no.

Actually it was because of his Israel support. Remember the Klan was equal-opportunity bigotry... they hated blacks, Jews, Catholics, labor unions, communists, drinkers, gamblers, philanderers and loose women and anybody who wasn't loudly a Protestant Christian.

 

[Pogo]

Bill Moyers, I suspect is a closet racist himself, if he denies it.

You get your history that has been rewritten, omitting facts that are pertinent to what he really did, and would thoroughly change your opinion.
I’m a Texan, born and bred, as well as those before me. If you truly seek the truth, you can find it. It is on the net today, written as it truly was back then. LBJ was a racist, to his core.

Bill Moyers is also a Texan, born and bred, who was up close and personal with Johnson, and he says you're full of Texas-size shit.

You can "suspect" anything you like but as long as you can't even figure out how the quote function works, that dawg ain't gonna hunt.

 

[jillian]

So, despite the thread title, there actually is zero evidence. I thought so. LBJ was 'notorious' for finding money for black colleges in East Texas to keep their doors open during the Depression, something that wouldn't have gained him anything at all, and in fact hurt him at the polls. Sorry, but no Klan member, much less a purely self-interested politician, would even think of doing such things as that, much less be openly supporting FDR. You guys really need to up your games here; the conspiracy theory forums are making you stupid.

Actually, it is an "informant" named Ned Touchstone, who claimed that the clan had "proof" that LBJ was in the KKK.

there was no proof presented. who the hell is ned touchstone that he is a credible source or who he even got his "information from". btw, most white southerners (who were dems before the civil rights act and they became repugs) had some association with the kkk. now the kkk is all yours.

if this is enough for you, though, then we can certainly agree that the dossier on Donald is 100% accurate since it has been largely substantiated.

thanks for confirming. I expect that whining trumptards will stop challenging it.

 

[Pogo]

[Q
Was Johnson a Klansman? So what if he was? Your mother and your daddy might have been one too, if they grew up during that time in the Deep South.
Were they?

Was LBJ a klansman?

They don't care whether he was or he wasn't- all they care about is spreading slander against LBJ- they are still pissed off that he was instrumental in the passage of the 1964 Civil Rights Act and the 1965 Voting Rights Act.

Remember- virtually every Congressman from the South- including EVERY Republican- opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

But who did the GOP nominate to be their 1964 Presidential candidate? One of the few non-southern Senators who voted against the 1964 Civil Rights Act- to oppose

I still say they would have done far better nominating Margaret Chase Smith, the Senator who had the cojones to stand up to Joe McCarthy in 1950. Could have been a game changer. But they didn't.

 

[Pogo]

Yes, it's entirely possible because the Klan was that powerful. If you wanted to get anywhere in politics in Texas in the 1930's, you better join the Klan because if you weren't IN the Klan in Texas, you were outside of it.

The general atmosphere was such, in the 1920s (not so much '30s), in Texas and many other places. Klan support made (or broke) many a politician in that decade, that's true.

The Johnsons however were on the right side of it. Sam (LBJ's father) was a state legislator and stood up in Austin to condemn the Klan loudly and forcefully. The Klan threatened to come to his house and retaliate. Sam said "bring it on" and stood vigil overnight with shotguns while LBJ, a pre-teenager, was sequestered in the basement. The hooded wimps never showed up.

As to the Klan's claim that they have documented proof from Ned Touchstone, then let's have it.

Hey, it's reported by a "contributor" named "Matt". That's rock solid evidence right there.

 

[Pogo]

It has been repeated over and over through the years, by those that knew him! Geeesh. Even the liberal media outlets admit he used the word all the time!
Lyndon Johnson was a civil rights hero. But also a racist.

Once again Twinkles, what the word "racist" actually MEANS is a person who believes one race is superior to another. Selective use of a given word does not impart that information.

What you're referring to here is "code switching". The same thing I described a few posts ago to Frank. The same thing YOUR OWN LINK describes here:

According to Johnson biographer Robert Caro, Johnson would calibrate his pronunciations by region, using “nigra” with some southern legislators and “negra” with others. Discussing civil rights legislation with men like Mississippi Democrat James Eastland, who committed most of his life to defending white supremacy, he’d simply call it “the ****** bill.”

That's YOUR OWN LINK. Perhaps you should actually read what you post.

LBJ knew how to cajole, to intimidate, to persuade. That's well known about him. And one of his tools was subtle use of language. ***DEAL*** with it.

 

[Pogo]

Goldwater's almost feverish devotion to libertarian principles, even over moral ones, ultimately contributed to his defeat. He voiced regret for not supporting civil rights legislation at the federal level later in life.

Goldwater stood on principle but to his credit once the CRA passed he declared it was now the law of the land and let's give it a chance to work.

Fun fact - George Wallace offered to jump parties and join Goldwater as his VP running mate. Goldwater declined, figured (correctly) he didn't need the Southern push, and couldn't afford furher alienating the anti-racist vote.

 

[depotoo]

Pogo, give it up. Even the media admitted he was racist. He used everything to his advantage to gain power.

And Moyers grew up in a very racist town. They even had censorship codes that in the 50’s were finally overturned. It was a segregated town. It was arresting Black students in 1960 for sitting at the lunch counter at the five and dime for interrupting business. He didn’t leave there until at least 1951.

You get your history that has been rewritten, omitting facts that are pertinent to what he really did, and would thoroughly change your opinion.
I’m a Texan, born and bred, as well as those before me. If you truly seek the truth, you can find it. It is on the net today, written as it truly was back then. LBJ was a racist, to his core.

Your history lessons have been decent obviously, as what you said is a farce. He continually refused to choose a Black to sit on nya, when instructed.

I get my history lessons from historians; I realize theirs doesn't ever match the lessons from spammers and hacks, but then I don't care. about those nor the opinions of those whose cite them. It was LBJ who got blacks into the NYA programs in the first place, so your sniveling doesn't count for much, considering the politics of the 1930's, and that had to be done quietly to be done at all, and done at considerable political risk to a man who is allegedly only out for himself.

JOHNSON, LYNDON BAINES | The Handbook of Texas Online| Texas State Historical Association (TSHA)

"To be shot at by the whites and dodged by the negroes": Lyndon Johnson and the Texas NYA. - Free Online Library

LBJ was both a racist- and also the President who did more for Civil Rights than any President since Lincoln.

By holding up in the Senate for 7 year an identical Civil Rights Bill put forth by Ike, a bill LBJ called the, "Ngger Bill"

Actually in the quote, however apocryphal, you refer to here, he's pushing to pass the bill. He's speaking to a Southern colleague and code-switching, which he did as adeptly as anybody. I believe the actual attributed quote was "why won't you let this ****** bill pass?"

"Code-switching" means adapting one's own speech to synch with one's listener to create common ground for assent. Everybody does it -- one talks one way to one's boss, another way to one's children, one way to a stranger, another way to a dog. One way to a foreigner, another way to a neighbor. Here LBJ is speaking in the white-Southern vernacular in order to reach his listener. That is, if the quote is real at all.

But this attempt at dichotomy where the use of the word "******" can have only one simple meaning, falls flat. Go ask a black rapper if he means the same thing by the term as a white KKK hooder does. Good luck with that. And again, in the statement he's backing the bill, not opposing it.

 

[Pogo]

Why does the title "Newly declassified files reveal...." remind me of "Newly discovered picture of the 1924 Democratic convention".............. ah yes, Revisionism On the March.

Then as far as who's who and how things worked, there's this:

Johnson and his chief political strategists on the civil rights bill --- Larry O'Brien and Deputy Attorney General Nicholas Katzenbach --- began huddling within days of the assassination. Key to passage, they recognized, would be the civil rights organizations, labor, business, the churches, and the Republican party.

.... On his way to the office on the morning of December 4 [1963]--- the Johnsons were still living at The Elms --- LBJ had his driver swing by and pick up George Meany, who lived nearby. During the ride, Meany promised he would do everything possible to secure support for the civil rights bill from leaders of the AFL-CIO, no small task because the measure covered apprenticeship programs. A day later, LBJ gathered up House Republican Minority Leader Charles Halleck for the trip downtown. Halleck was noncommittal; Johnson made it plain that he was going to hold the GOP's feet to the fire on civil rights: "I'm going to lay it on the line ... now you're either for civil rights or you're not ... you're either the party of Lincoln or you're not --- By God, put up or shut up."15 ---- LBJ: Architect of American Ambition, pp. 470-471​

 

[Pogo]

Pogo, give it up. Even the media admitted he was racist. He used everything to his advantage to gain power.

And Moyers grew up in a very racist town. They even had censorship codes that in the 50’s were finally overturned. It was a segregated town. It was arresting Black students in 1960 for sitting at the lunch counter at the five and dime for interrupting business. He didn’t leave there until at least 1951.

You get your history that has been rewritten, omitting facts that are pertinent to what he really did, and would thoroughly change your opinion.
I’m a Texan, born and bred, as well as those before me. If you truly seek the truth, you can find it. It is on the net today, written as it truly was back then. LBJ was a racist, to his core.

I get my history lessons from historians; I realize theirs doesn't ever match the lessons from spammers and hacks, but then I don't care. about those nor the opinions of those whose cite them. It was LBJ who got blacks into the NYA programs in the first place, so your sniveling doesn't count for much, considering the politics of the 1930's, and that had to be done quietly to be done at all, and done at considerable political risk to a man who is allegedly only out for himself.

JOHNSON, LYNDON BAINES | The Handbook of Texas Online| Texas State Historical Association (TSHA)

"To be shot at by the whites and dodged by the negroes": Lyndon Johnson and the Texas NYA. - Free Online Library

LBJ was both a racist- and also the President who did more for Civil Rights than any President since Lincoln.

By holding up in the Senate for 7 year an identical Civil Rights Bill put forth by Ike, a bill LBJ called the, "Ngger Bill"

Actually in the quote, however apocryphal, you refer to here, he's pushing to pass the bill. He's speaking to a Southern colleague and code-switching, which he did as adeptly as anybody. I believe the actual attributed quote was "why won't you let this ****** bill pass?"

"Code-switching" means adapting one's own speech to synch with one's listener to create common ground for assent. Everybody does it -- one talks one way to one's boss, another way to one's children, one way to a stranger, another way to a dog. One way to a foreigner, another way to a neighbor. Here LBJ is speaking in the white-Southern vernacular in order to reach his listener. That is, if the quote is real at all.

But this attempt at dichotomy where the use of the word "******" can have only one simple meaning, falls flat. Go ask a black rapper if he means the same thing by the term as a white KKK hooder does. Good luck with that. And again, in the statement he's backing the bill, not opposing it.

How in the wide world of fuck does that transmit to people, on the sole basis that they come from there? Some kind of Bubblistic Osmosis?

Know who else is a Texan? Steve Martin. I understand he was born a poor black child. That humor must fly over your head with a Texas-size leap.

 

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You know, There are plenty of things that one can criticize LBJ about. For example, I took it personally that his foreign policy could easily have gotten me killed in Vietnam, for no reason other than the fact that he did not want to be the first president in American history to lose a war. But the Trump crowd is really stretching trying to tar LBJ with racism. I am not surprised, though. I do believe that most Trump supporters believe that American history began on 9/11.