New York Times Legal Scholars: Trump Needs a Congressional Declaration of War to Attack Iran, AUMFs Not Sufficient

[Nostra]

What did Oona say when Barry Hussein bombed 7 countries with no declaration of war?

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[Nostra]

Show us where he did that for all 7 countries.

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[MarathonMike]

Obama didn't.

Obama literally did whatever he wanted for 8 years. Trump is undoing the damage Obama did by revitalizing Iran with a joke of a nuclear agreement and many billions of dollars.

 

[BlindBoo]

Obama literally did whatever he wanted for 8 years. Trump is undoing the damage Obama did by revitalizing Iran with a joke of a nuclear agreement and many billions of dollars.

May 20, 2009 -- The U.S. Senate today voted overwhelmingly to block funding to shut down the detainee center at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, dealing another blow to one of President Obama's signature national security issues.

In a 90-6 vote, the Senate followed in the footsteps of the House of Representatives and passed an amendment deleting $80 million in funds from a war funding bill earmarked to close the Guantanamo Bay prison.

Democrats on Capitol Hill Rebel Against President Obama's Guantanamo Bay Plan

Senate Democrats on Capitol Hill are rejecting President Obama's request for money to start shutting down the detainee center at Guantanamo Bay.

abcnews.go.com

 

[BlindBoo]

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The Presidents have near absolute authority to use the military if they think there is a threat to the USA. They don't have to ask Congress for permission.



The President was limited a little after the Vietnam war.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/93rd-congress/house-joint-resolution/542/text

 

[BlindBoo]

Trump is not saying he is going to war, just bombing.
Obama bombed how many times without "authorization"??

Hint - best estimates are he dropped between 26,000 and 27,000 bombs

Several of Obama's actions were under existing AUMF's. Same with The Trumpybear, like the drone war in Yemen during his first term.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Several of Obama's actions were under existing AUMF's. Same with The Trumpybear, like the drone war in Yemen during his first term.

No they wasn't - Libya? Nope
Clinton bombing Kosovo? Nope
Presidents under the War Powers Act can engage in military action without - ANY - authorization from Congress for up to 90 days.
NEEDS ZERO AUTHORIZATION.
Ever hear of Commander in Chief??

 

[Seymour Flops]

There is no wiggle room.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/18/opinion/trump-iran-war-congress.html

"Mr. Trump has already spent days publicly contemplating whether to join Israel in the conflict. Dr. O’Connell compared the situation to the past decisions to go to war in Afghanistan in 2001 and against Iraq in 2003. In both cases, Congress passed a war authorization law.

Those laws granted the commander in chief sweeping powers to send troops into combat and launch military operations with few restrictions, putting the United States on an open-ended war footing ever since. It’s unclear what legal rationale the Trump White House would use if it does decide to take military action against Iran, but legal scholars are skeptical that current legislation is sufficient.

“He absolutely needs congressional authorization if he intends to use military force against Iran,” said Oona Hathaway, a former Pentagon lawyer and professor at Yale Law School. “That clearly would not fall within either of the existing A.U.M.F.s.”"

Only Trump, of course.

 

[Nostra]

The Presidents have near absolute authority to use the military if they think there is a threat to the USA. They don't have to ask Congress for permission.



The President was limited a little after the Vietnam war.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/93rd-congress/house-joint-resolution/542/text

So your party is full of shit.

Got it.

 

[imawhosure]

There is no wiggle room.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/18/opinion/trump-iran-war-congress.html

"Mr. Trump has already spent days publicly contemplating whether to join Israel in the conflict. Dr. O’Connell compared the situation to the past decisions to go to war in Afghanistan in 2001 and against Iraq in 2003. In both cases, Congress passed a war authorization law.

Those laws granted the commander in chief sweeping powers to send troops into combat and launch military operations with few restrictions, putting the United States on an open-ended war footing ever since. It’s unclear what legal rationale the Trump White House would use if it does decide to take military action against Iran, but legal scholars are skeptical that current legislation is sufficient.

“He absolutely needs congressional authorization if he intends to use military force against Iran,” said Oona Hathaway, a former Pentagon lawyer and professor at Yale Law School. “That clearly would not fall within either of the existing A.U.M.F.s.”"

As 95% of Leftist threads, this one has aged badly. Your opinion and link are in error, your position on the matter is bassackwards, and then to top it all off..........your posts across all threads, AID and COMFORT the enemy.

Anyone, can find any position, on anything on the internet................including that Hitler and Stalin were very nice people. How long it took you to find that link remains to be seen, but that a**hole profs position has already been blown out of the water along with yours.

I have not read all of the threads you have started, but as for the ones I have.......you are O'FER, so congrats on being O'FER, keep up the good work, and we MAGAs thank you for your literal support-)

 

[Nostra]

As 95% of Leftist threads, this one has aged badly. Your opinion and link are in error, your position on the matter is bassackwards, and then to top it all off..........your posts across all threads, AID and COMFORT the enemy.

Anyone, can find any position, on anything on the internet................including that Hitler and Stalin were very nice people. How long it took you to find that link remains to be seen, but that a**hole profs position has already been blown out of the water along with yours.

I have not read all of the threads you have started, but as for the ones I have.......you are O'FER, so congrats on being O'FER, keep up the good work, and we MAGAs thank you for your literal support-)

What he said……

 

[NotYankee]

Great to watch Trumpfy try to follow Deep State orders whilst preserving the idea of his Presidency being a great one , marked by zero War involvement .

It would be wrong not to see him carved into the mountain and winning a wonderful Nobel Peace Prize .
All Hail , King Trumpfy .

They gave him to you .
It's now your turn to realise that they gave you a stinking piece of fish .
Serves you right , Sheeple

Mr. President Trump has already declared war on Iraq, when He bombed them. He has a record of waging war on countries when He was president the first time. He has also declared war on Gaza when He spent big bucks sending bombs, etc. to the nice anti-Christ fake Israel folks.