New York Times Legal Scholars: Trump Needs a Congressional Declaration of War to Attack Iran, AUMFs Not Sufficient

[Ropey]

The reason for Trump's two week notice?

Setup time.

There will be no proxies in the arena when Israel comes in to take out Fordow.

And for the next two weeks, we are taking out all the IRGC leadership we can. Persians are already taking care of the IRGC's embedded Basij.

Still, the two week marker is just that. A replaceable marker...

 

[BackAgain]

The War Powers Act is both necessary and dangerous as ****.

Those two things are not mutually exclusive.

 

[Ropey]

The War Powers Act is both necessary and dangerous as ****.

It is so. Its inconsistent enforcement and potential to constrain urgent action infringes on the president’s constitutional role as commander-in-chief, creating tension with Article II powers.

Those two things are not mutually exclusive.

I wonder if the act would have been used with Vietnam if it had already been on the books?

Both parties were complicit. Hence the danger.

 

[Mack The Finger]

There is no wiggle room.

I have a 9th grade education and I can tell you the guy is wrong.

The president needs congressional permission (within x amount of time) to sustain combat....not launch a attack.

 

[Edgetho]

You ignorant warmongering piece of shit the Constitution says only Congress can declare war. Even Bush had to get a vote before he attacked Iraq. Go to tel Aviv if you aren't there already pushing for America to bail you out.

Talk to the Mad Mullahs, fuckwit.

No, wait. They're dead.

 

[Scoutster]

Talk to the Mad Mullahs, fuckwit.

No, wait. They're dead.

 

[Edgetho]

I have a 9th grade education and I can tell you the guy is wrong.

The president needs congressional permission (within x amount of time) to sustain combat....not launch a attack.

The Constitution is clear, only Congress can Declare War.

But traitorous scum dimocrap filth try to extend that to everything POTUS does when it's a Republican in Office. Not because of the Constitution, because dimocraps are the scum of the Earth. And Liberturdians are right there with them.

Trump DID NOT DECLARE WAR!! Somebody tell the mouth-breathing scum in here that simple fact. He used his power as CinC to slap a bunch of crazy Goat Fuckers upside the head.

That hardly requires a Permission Slip from the idiots in Congress. They'd take 5 years to debate whether or not to do it and then SCOTUS would get involved and take another 5 years to issue a decision.

Our Founding Fathers gave POTUS this power on purpose. Even Rome gave ultimate power to one Man during Emergencies.

Iran and a bunch of goat-******* imbeciles who want to Nuke us getting The Bomb...... That's an emergency.

 

[Blaster]

Trump to Congress.

 

[Mack The Finger]

The Constitution is clear, only Congress can Declare War.

Trump DID NOT DECLARE WAR!! Somebody tell the mouth-breathing scum in here that simple fact. He used his power as CinC to slap a bunch of crazy Goat Fuckers upside the head.

Iran and a bunch of goat-******* imbeciles who want to Nuke us getting The Bomb...... That's an emergency.

GREAT POST 1

Point 1: There is no such thing as a Constitutional crisis. As I just pointed out in another thread AOC said what OMB did was un-Costitutional which could be true but she didn't say how.

It is funny those words are always come'n out of DEMs mouths but never with clarification. Our EURO great founding fathers covered every legal possible there is. And what they didn't specifically cover they did generally; with the intentions for those in power to fight it out.
Point 2: Facts do not matter to LIBs only the agenda does. I'm not looking this up so don't quote me BUT...I believe Congress has 2 weeks to vote up or down. If they vote against / for...him / her / it they legally can seize control of the military according thier wishes.
Point 3: *****'n about bombing a nuke factory...in a country that calls for America and Israel destruction shows how deranged the LIBs are.
As Rush said: these people are a rent a mob.
Gaza is still under Israel's' control. How many hamas supporters do you think went there to protest on the front line or sent bushels of $$$ ?

Another great Rush saying it's the ice cream flavor of the week. Folks wanna hear something funny ? LIBs use to call Rush a racist...his best friend and producer was black. Please pray for these people and if you don't believe in prayer can you alm for them ?

 

[DonGlock26]

There is no wiggle room.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/18/opinion/trump-iran-war-congress.html

"Mr. Trump has already spent days publicly contemplating whether to join Israel in the conflict. Dr. O’Connell compared the situation to the past decisions to go to war in Afghanistan in 2001 and against Iraq in 2003. In both cases, Congress passed a war authorization law.

Those laws granted the commander in chief sweeping powers to send troops into combat and launch military operations with few restrictions, putting the United States on an open-ended war footing ever since. It’s unclear what legal rationale the Trump White House would use if it does decide to take military action against Iran, but legal scholars are skeptical that current legislation is sufficient.

“He absolutely needs congressional authorization if he intends to use military force against Iran,” said Oona Hathaway, a former Pentagon lawyer and professor at Yale Law School. “That clearly would not fall within either of the existing A.U.M.F.s.”"

Fact: Bill Clinton bombed Serbia without congressional approval.

President Clinton initiated the bombing campaign without authority from Congress, the NATO Charter, or the UN Security Council.

https://www.cato.org/policy-report/september/october-1999/chairmans-message-bombing-serbia-was-wrong

"House Fails To Authorize

By Christopher Wilson
Reuters
April 29, 1999

Washington - In a stinging blow to President Clinton's foreign policy and the U.S.-led NATO bombing of Yugoslavia, a House of Representatives resolution authorizing air strikes failed to pass as a deadlocked vote showed deep opposition to American involvement in the war.

The resolution, sponsored by Democrats, foundered when 213 representatives voted for it and 213 voted against, with 26 Democrats breaking ranks to oppose the motion. Thirty-one Republicans voted in favor of air strikes. The nonbinding resolution could have passed with a simple plurality. The Senate voted last month to support air strikes. The House has no mechanism for resolving tie votes."

House Fails To Authorize

Global Policy Forum is a policy watchdog that follows the work of the United Nations. We promote accountability and citizen participation in decisions on peace and security, social justice and international law.

archive.globalpolicy.org

 

[kyzr]

Fact: Bill Clinton bombed Serbia without congressional approval.

"House Fails To Authorize

By Christopher Wilson
Reuters
April 29, 1999

Washington - In a stinging blow to President Clinton's foreign policy and the U.S.-led NATO bombing of Yugoslavia, a House of Representatives resolution authorizing air strikes failed to pass as a deadlocked vote showed deep opposition to American involvement in the war.

The resolution, sponsored by Democrats, foundered when 213 representatives voted for it and 213 voted against, with 26 Democrats breaking ranks to oppose the motion. Thirty-one Republicans voted in favor of air strikes. The nonbinding resolution could have passed with a simple plurality. The Senate voted last month to support air strikes. The House has no mechanism for resolving tie votes."

Not only Bill Clinton.
Barak Obama bombed Syria, Libya, Somalia, etc.

So the democrat's partisan whining is BULLSHIT.

 

[Concerned American]

Not only Bill Clinton.
Barak Obama bombed Syria, Libya, Somalia, etc.

So the democrat's partisan whining is BULLSHIT.

Let us not forget the battle of Mogadishu (Somalia) (Blackhawk Down), Oct. 3-4, 1993. Clinton.

 

[Billiejeens]

“He absolutely needs congressional authorization if he intends to use military force against Iran,” said Oona Hathaway, a former Pentagon lawyer and professor at Yale Law School. “That clearly would not fall within either of the existing A.U.M.F.s.”"


Poor US hating Democrats.

 

[Billiejeens]

Great to watch Trumpfy try to follow Deep State orders whilst preserving the idea of his Presidency being a great one , marked by zero War involvement .

It would be wrong not to see him carved into the mountain and winning a wonderful Nobel Peace Prize .
All Hail , King Trumpfy .

They gave him to you .
It's now your turn to realise that they gave you a stinking piece of fish .
Serves you right , Sheeple

You may not know what war is.

 

[Nostra]

There is no wiggle room.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/18/opinion/trump-iran-war-congress.html

"Mr. Trump has already spent days publicly contemplating whether to join Israel in the conflict. Dr. O’Connell compared the situation to the past decisions to go to war in Afghanistan in 2001 and against Iraq in 2003. In both cases, Congress passed a war authorization law.

Those laws granted the commander in chief sweeping powers to send troops into combat and launch military operations with few restrictions, putting the United States on an open-ended war footing ever since. It’s unclear what legal rationale the Trump White House would use if it does decide to take military action against Iran, but legal scholars are skeptical that current legislation is sufficient.

“He absolutely needs congressional authorization if he intends to use military force against Iran,” said Oona Hathaway, a former Pentagon lawyer and professor at Yale Law School. “That clearly would not fall within either of the existing A.U.M.F.s.”"

What did Oona say when Barry Hussein bombed 7 countries with no declaration of war?

 

[Nostra]

Yeah he did.

Under the War Powers Act the president can order most any military action as long as he informs Congress and follows the guidelines of that law. Congress can stop it after after 60 days I think.

Avalon Project - War Powers Resolution

avalon.law.yale.edu

Show us where he did that for all 7 countries.

 

[Billiejeens]

White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt slams CNN after it corrects report on congressional notification of recent strikes.​

White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt blasted CNN after the network was forced to correct a report alleging that Democratic congressional leaders were not briefed on the recent U.S. strikes on Iranian nuclear facilities on Saturday.

The incident has reignited debates about media accuracy and the dissemination of critical information during sensitive military operations.

BJ -
Reignited.
That raging fire never went out.

 

[Paddlefoot]

Why would someone that works for the NYT go off and try and pawn themself off as a legal scholar?

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Obama didn't.

Neither did Bush.

 

[Concerned American]

Neither did Bush.

Nor Reagan, nor Clinton.