New York Mets Have Lost Their Minds

[Harry Dresden]

I have watched baseball for 74 years. I never heard of anything like that. Players like Mickey Mantle, Joe Dimaggio, Ted Williams probably never touched anything other than alchohol & cigarettes, and those things could have reduced their peformance, if anything.

Kreidler: Black day for the greenies, too

Steroids are the headline. But the fact amphetamines are in baseball's new proposed agreement is real news.

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[protectionist]

Kreidler: Black day for the greenies, too

Steroids are the headline. But the fact amphetamines are in baseball's new proposed agreement is real news.

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From your link >>
"Amphetamines were once super common in baseball. "Greenies" (real medical name Dexedrine), which were rumored to have been brought back by players who served in WWII,

"It wasn't until 2006 that MLB began testing for amphetamines"

 

[Harry Dresden]

From your link >>
"Amphetamines were once super common in baseball. "Greenies" (real medical name Dexedrine), which were rumored to have been brought back by players who served in WWII,

"It wasn't until 2006 that MLB began testing for amphetamines"

and?....

 

[protectionist]

and?....

No "and".
I said what I wanted to say.

 

[Meathead]

AYKM - Are You Kidding Me ? Pheeew!
Major League Baseball team New York Mets Have just given a 26 year old guy (Juan Soto) $765 Million to play for them on a 15 year contract. This is the most ever. That is more than 3/4 of a BILLION $$$$$$$$$$.

I'm sorry folks. But $765 Million for the UNKNOWN ? What if this guy gets a career ending injury, and is unable to play at all, after 2025 ? Or to play at a very reduced level ?

Even if he continues healthy through the next 15 years, at the same level he's playing at, that level, in now way, justifies $765 Million. Yikes!
At present, Soto has a career batting average of .285. That is mediocre.
Let's look at power - Extracting his 2020 season, when he had only 154 at bats, he has averaged 31 Home runs per year. Good, but not great. Not $765 Million great, that is.
Reliability - averaged 92 RBIs over 6 seasons. Again good, but nowhere near great.

Just to put just this in perspective

1. Ted Williams over his ENTIRE career earned (in 2025 $$$) the sum of $43 Million. That is about 1/18 of what Soto is getting just for 15 years (if he even plays that long)

In comparison of their first 6 years >>>

Soto batting avg - .285
Williams batt avg - .353

Soto Home Runs - 188
Williams Home Runs - 197

Soto RBIs - 555
Williams RBIs - 752

If this comparison were done with Stan Musial, Willie Mays, or Mickey Mantle, results would be about similar.

Juan Soto to the Mets on record-shattering 15-year, $765 million contract

Juan Soto becomes the highest paid player in MLB history with a 15-year, $765 million deal.

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Soto's good, but he's not that good. I think it partially to show their cross town counterparts up.

 

[rightwinger]

a handful of guys only half in the hall.......even the guys who keep all the stats,Baseball Reference said the 1940's were the thinnest in baseball talent ...

40s are tough because so many players went to war

 

[Harry Dresden]

40s are tough because so many players went to war

and after the war it was still pretty thin,,,

 

[rightwinger]

and after the war it was still pretty thin,,,

Must have really hurt the farm system

 

[protectionist]

and after the war it was still pretty thin,,,

Got very thick in the 50s.

Hitters -Stan Musial, Willie Mays, Mickey Mantle, Ted Williams, Hank Aaron, Eddie Mathews, Frank Robinson, Ted Klusewski, Duke Snider, Ernie Banks, Jackie Robinson, Ralph Kiner, Richie Ashburn, Jackie Jensen, Roy Campanella, Yogi Berra, Al Kaline, Gil Hodges,

Pitchers - ****** Ford, Warren Spahn, Johnny Antonelli, Robin Roberts, Billy Pierce, Early Wynn, Don Newcombe, Bob Lemon, Bob Feller, Lew Burdette, Sal Maglie

 

[Harry Dresden]

Got very thick in the 50s.

Hitters -Stan Musial, Willie Mays, Mickey Mantle, Ted Williams, Hank Aaron, Eddie Mathews, Frank Robinson, Ted Klusewski, Duke Snider, Ernie Banks, Jackie Robinson, Ralph Kiner, Richie Ashburn, Jackie Jensen, Roy Campanella, Yogi Berra, Al Kaline, Gil Hodges,

Pitchers - ****** Ford, Warren Spahn, Johnny Antonelli, Robin Roberts, Billy Pierce, Early Wynn, Don Newcombe, Bob Lemon, Bob Feller, Lew Burdette, Sal Maglie

cant argue with that....