New WSJ/NBC poll - Donald losing more ground

[Meathead]

Poll: Clinton now holds 11-point national lead over Trump

Good times for the I'm-with-her crowd, eh?

I wasn't "with Her" -- sorry

Yeah, I know. It's hard to find anyone who "was with her" these days.

Out of around 50 regularly posting Progs in USMB - I think we had 2 or 3 who were down with Hillary from the get-go.

I understand.I'd be embarrassed too.

 

[DrLove]

Of course not, they have teeth.
People who vote for Trump don't know the meaning of the word "orthadenture".
People who voted for Trump give their kids beer.
They're confederates who play in mud. That's why they hate the EPA.

Question - Did Mikey really say this?

miketx, 4/10/18: Trump is president and the law doesn't apply to him. He should be able to choose whatever laws he wants to disobey. It's the right thing to do.

 

[MindWars]

And if you go to the poll itself - You'll not that the "strongly approve" number is 22% and "strongly disapprove" is double that at 44. Sad

President Trump’s job approval rating slipped 4 points in a new NBC News/Wall Street Journal poll.

Thirty-nine percent of respondents now approve of the job the president is doing, compared to 57 percent who disapprove.

Trump's support fell among Republicans, whites, men, independents, women and Democrats.​

Trump job approval slips 4 points to 39 percent in NBC poll

You are such an idiot

Daily Presidential Tracking Poll - Rasmussen Reports®

 

[DrLove]

You are such an idiot

Only idiots believe Rasmussen polls and read Infowars

 

[Roudy]

The article is complete bullshit.
I read the WSJ and, unfortunately, my wife watches Fox.
From day one, the WSJ’s stance was that Trump was going to cause the econony to crash.
The ONLY person on Fox that supported Trump which was why Trump was on Hannity, and SOLELY Hannity for the entire election.
Show me an ACTUAL article during the election where the WSJ was in the slightest NOT attacking Trump, not some bullshit piece from ANOTHER paper about POST election Trump.

Apparently you were reading with a blindfold on

Wall Street Journal Columnist Discovers Trump Defense to End All Trump Defenses

You are proving yourself to be an accomplished moron.
I an NOT interested in a POST Trump win, non-WSJ, revisionist, Trump Ass Kissing articles.
Link to an ELECTION period WSJ article NOT attacking Trump.

For every poll there is another poll.....

Daily Presidential Tracking Poll - Rasmussen Reports®

And Rasmussen was one the most accurate during the 2016 elections.

 

[Roudy]

For every poll there is another poll.....

Daily Presidential Tracking Poll - Rasmussen Reports®

The current issue is reality as it occurs vs people grasping for someone’s else revision of what actually happened.

And the thread is about "polls".

It makes no difference to a leftist what actually happens...to them it's what they perceived happened

Here’s one for you...
If Hillary won I would have hoped for the best.
But then again, I’m not a psychotic Liberal or neo-Con.

I hoped for the best when Ears won....it was severely disappointing

GW is still my favorite President to hate.

LOL He did have his heart in the right place, even though he was a Royal fuckup, but I'm still waiting for him to utter a sentence without stumbling all over the place. They weren't doing a good job of hiding his speech impediment problem.

 

[Roudy]

Cherry picking polls is just that, cherry picking.

One can find a poll to suit any desired agenda

Sorry no - The poll averages are indeed within the statistical margins of error. This one was 3.7 points. Take 6 or 8 of them, average out and you get a fairly accurate snapshot.

Even if Rasmussen is included.

RealClearPolitics - Election Other - President Trump Job Approval

Yeah so were the ones assuring you Cankles would win....polls are worthless

And your kind gets so upset that Comey talked about Trump's remarkable skin color, called him a liar, which is merely an observation of the truth and a stain.

You hungry again?

 

[whutTHEYsay]

Mac1958, post: 19736018

. While partisans celebrate poor ratings for the other side, most of us want the country to be happy with their President.

No, most of us who voted did not want TRUMPO to ever become President. Why do you insist that the loser of the popular vote must automatically receive 'happiness' from the majority (by 3+ million) of voters?

The loser of the popular vote, because of his absolute inability to win more hearts and minds than his rival, has an ethical and political obligation to try to appeal in some way to those who could find no reason to vote for him.

But what was one of the first things lying asshole Trumpo said about the largest bloc of voters? He said without evidence that he won the popular vote once the illegal voters were not counted.

So Trumpo lies and defames legit American voters by dismissing their votes as illegal.

And we are supposed to be 'happy' with that lying asshole being president?

You make no sense.

 

[Roudy]

Poll: Clinton now holds 11-point national lead over Trump

Three weeks before the election we had no idea the two Comey announcements would come and that over 200 million people had viewed and shared fake news from Putin's troll & bot farms.

Remind us again the billions the Dems and their corrupt America hating financiers like Soros paid to prop up crooked Hillary, while Trump didn't even spend a tenth of what was spent on crooked Hillary. AND SHE STILL LOST. Tsk Tsk.

 

[Roudy]

Of course not, they have teeth.
People who vote for Trump don't know the meaning of the word "orthadenture".

People who voted for Trump give their kids beer.

They're confederates who play in mud. That's why they hate the EPA.

no indication they're Trump voters, you stereotypical moron. Most likely they're Dem-tards.

Congratulations on your youtube success:

 

[Roudy]

You are such an idiot

Only idiots believe Rasmussen polls and read Infowars

How does it feel to be a delusional Leftard idiot detached from facts and reality?

http://americanresearchgroup.com/ratings/2016/uspresident/

2016 US Presidential Election Pollster Ratings
2016 US Presidential Election Pollster Ratings

The following table lists the accuracy of pollsters in the November 8, 2016 US Presidential election using the measure of polling accuracy proposed by Martin, Traugott, and Kennedy.

An accuracy measure of 0.00 indicates that the odds ratio of the survey results matches the odds ratio of the actual results (the closer to 0.00, the better).

2016 Presidential Election
Clinton Trump Odds
Ratio Accuracy
Rasmussen 45% 43% 1.00 0.00
UPI/CVOTER 49% 46% 1.02 0.02
CBS/NY Times 45% 42% 1.02 0.02
Politico/Morning Consult 45% 42% 1.02 0.02
McClatchy/Marist 44% 43% 0.98 -0.02
Bloomberg/Selzer 44% 41% 1.03 0.03
Reuters/Ipsos 42% 39% 1.03 0.03
Fox News 48% 44% 1.04 0.04
Boston Herald/Franklin Pierce/RKM 48% 44% 1.04 0.04
Angus Reid 48% 44% 1.04 0.04
ABC/Washington Post 47% 43% 1.05 0.04
Gravis Marketing 47% 43% 1.05 0.04*
Economist/YouGov 45% 41% 1.05 0.05
CBS News 45% 41% 1.05 0.05
Insights West 45% 41% 1.05 0.05
NBC/WSJ 44% 40% 1.05 0.05
Times-Picayune/Lucid 45% 40% 1.08 0.07
Monmouth 50% 44% 1.09 0.08
NBC/SurveyMonkey 47% 41% 1.10 0.09*
IBD/TIPP 43% 45% 0.91 -0.09
Pew 46% 40% 1.10 0.10
LA Times/USC 44% 47% 0.89 -0.12*
USA Today/Suffolk 49% 39% 1.20 0.18*
CNBC/Hart/POS 43% 33% 1.25 0.22*
Saint Leo University 45% 34% 1.27 0.24*
Actual 48.18% 46.09%
*The accuracy measures for the Gravis Marketing poll (sample size of 16,639), the USA Today/Suffolk poll (sample size of 1,000), the Saint Leo University poll (sample size of 1,050), the NBC/SurveyMonkey poll (sample size of 70,194), the CNBC/Hart/Public Opinion Strategies poll (sample size of 804), and the LA Times/USC poll (sample size of 2,972) fall outside the 95% confidence intervals.

The accuracy measures for the other 19 polls fall within the 95% confidence intervals.

The average absolute accuracy for all polls in 2016 is 0.070. The median absolute accuracy for all polls in 2016 is 0.049. The average absolute accuracy for the 19 polls in 2016 where the accuracy measures fall within the respective 95% confidence intervals is 0.045.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

“Trump job approval slips 4 points to 39 percent in NBC poll”

The consequence of a failed ‘administration’ put into office over the objection of a majority of Americans.

 

[Mac1958]

While partisans celebrate poor ratings for the other side, most of us want the country to be happy with their President.

No, most of us who voted did not want TRUMPO to ever become President. Why do you insist that the loser of the popular vote must automatically receive 'happiness' from the majority (by 3+ million) of voters?

The always-fascinating thought processes and straw man arguments of hardcore partisan ideologues, on both ends.

Why did you dishonestly add the word "automatically" to your question, which completely changed my point?

I want any President to do well, which would lead to a happier constituency and poplace. A person is not going to be "automatically" happy with the performance of a President, unless they're just a partisan. Don't you want any President to do well? Or DO you?

Why can't you people just be honest?
.

 

[skookerasbil]

Fake.... only the Rasmussen poll is accurate.

And we know that from the last two presidential elections where Rasmussen was spot-on.... and the other polls? Ummmm....... not so much

C'mon now.... in 2016 all those goofball polls had Hillary in a blowout.... and the reverse happened and Rasmussen called it. Duh

 

[DrLove]

You are such an idiot

Only idiots believe Rasmussen polls and read Infowars

How does it feel to be a delusional Leftard idiot detached from facts and reality?

http://americanresearchgroup.com/ratings/2016/uspresident/

2016 US Presidential Election Pollster Ratings
2016 US Presidential Election Pollster Ratings

The following table lists the accuracy of pollsters in the November 8, 2016 US Presidential election using the measure of polling accuracy proposed by Martin, Traugott, and Kennedy.

An accuracy measure of 0.00 indicates that the odds ratio of the survey results matches the odds ratio of the actual results (the closer to 0.00, the better).

2016 Presidential Election
Clinton Trump Odds
Ratio Accuracy
Rasmussen 45% 43% 1.00 0.00
UPI/CVOTER 49% 46% 1.02 0.02
CBS/NY Times 45% 42% 1.02 0.02
Politico/Morning Consult 45% 42% 1.02 0.02
McClatchy/Marist 44% 43% 0.98 -0.02
Bloomberg/Selzer 44% 41% 1.03 0.03
Reuters/Ipsos 42% 39% 1.03 0.03
Fox News 48% 44% 1.04 0.04
Boston Herald/Franklin Pierce/RKM 48% 44% 1.04 0.04
Angus Reid 48% 44% 1.04 0.04
ABC/Washington Post 47% 43% 1.05 0.04
Gravis Marketing 47% 43% 1.05 0.04*
Economist/YouGov 45% 41% 1.05 0.05
CBS News 45% 41% 1.05 0.05
Insights West 45% 41% 1.05 0.05
NBC/WSJ 44% 40% 1.05 0.05
Times-Picayune/Lucid 45% 40% 1.08 0.07
Monmouth 50% 44% 1.09 0.08
NBC/SurveyMonkey 47% 41% 1.10 0.09*
IBD/TIPP 43% 45% 0.91 -0.09
Pew 46% 40% 1.10 0.10
LA Times/USC 44% 47% 0.89 -0.12*
USA Today/Suffolk 49% 39% 1.20 0.18*
CNBC/Hart/POS 43% 33% 1.25 0.22*
Saint Leo University 45% 34% 1.27 0.24*
Actual 48.18% 46.09%
*The accuracy measures for the Gravis Marketing poll (sample size of 16,639), the USA Today/Suffolk poll (sample size of 1,000), the Saint Leo University poll (sample size of 1,050), the NBC/SurveyMonkey poll (sample size of 70,194), the CNBC/Hart/Public Opinion Strategies poll (sample size of 804), and the LA Times/USC poll (sample size of 2,972) fall outside the 95% confidence intervals.

The accuracy measures for the other 19 polls fall within the 95% confidence intervals.

The average absolute accuracy for all polls in 2016 is 0.070. The median absolute accuracy for all polls in 2016 is 0.049. The average absolute accuracy for the 19 polls in 2016 where the accuracy measures fall within the respective 95% confidence intervals is 0.045.

American Research Group?

Dismissed

As of 2016, ARG received a C+ rating from FiveThirtyEight.[6] FiveThirtyEight's Nate Silver has long critiqued ARG. In 2008, he wrote in Daily Kos about their poor track record and later challenged Bennett to a polling contest that the latter did not take up.[7][8] ARG was noted by Silver as performing particularly poorly in the 2012 US presidential election: "Polls by American Research Group ... largely missed the mark ... American Research Group has long been unreliable."[9] In 2016, Washington Monthly noted of ARG, based on FiveThirtyEight's analysis, that they have a slight Republican bias but more importantly, "They do not appear to be good at their jobs."[10]

In the 2008 US presidential primaries, ARG were "dead last among the nine organizations that polled in 10 or more contests" for accuracy.[11]

The Washington Post noted that in 2000 ARG's "tracking poll ended up buried deepest in the snowbank: They had Bush winning by two points the day before the primary -- merely 20 off the mark."[12] Salon found in 2004 that ARG did not reveal the funding sources of their polls.[13] Mother Jonesobserved in 2007 that ARG "may not be the bellwether for accurate polling."[5] The New Republic found in 2008 that "ARG is a black sheep of the polling world; I repeatedly heard it singled out for scorn by other pollsters."[14]​

 

[tigerred59]

I love it when Leftards start quoting those fake polls concocted by fake news sources.

Listen, ass wipe, you neo nuts can't have it both ways, when MSM, including CNN has the clown pass 39%, all peanut brain bitches rally in support, despite the fact the clown calls everything fake news, when it doesn't suit him....bottom line, no poll on this planet will ever and I mean ever sum up just how much this particular president is HATED!!

 

[tigerred59]

Well, that's not good news.

While partisans celebrate poor ratings for the other side, most of us want the country to be happy with their President.

This party-over-country shit has to end.
.

We are not, I repeat are not gonna always want cum by ya love, when fuckin Republicans are in the white house. I get sick of this shit....these red white and vomit blue ball mf's gave this country 8 fuckin years of hell under Obama....8 non stop GOP obstructed years of attacks and bullshit hearings.....Now all of a sudden, its this can't we all get along shit....One year in with this white racist mf, with God knows how many to go and you want country over party? Not gonna happen.


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[Roudy]

You are such an idiot

Only idiots believe Rasmussen polls and read Infowars

How does it feel to be a delusional Leftard idiot detached from facts and reality?

http://americanresearchgroup.com/ratings/2016/uspresident/

2016 US Presidential Election Pollster Ratings
2016 US Presidential Election Pollster Ratings

The following table lists the accuracy of pollsters in the November 8, 2016 US Presidential election using the measure of polling accuracy proposed by Martin, Traugott, and Kennedy.

An accuracy measure of 0.00 indicates that the odds ratio of the survey results matches the odds ratio of the actual results (the closer to 0.00, the better).

2016 Presidential Election
Clinton Trump Odds
Ratio Accuracy
Rasmussen 45% 43% 1.00 0.00
UPI/CVOTER 49% 46% 1.02 0.02
CBS/NY Times 45% 42% 1.02 0.02
Politico/Morning Consult 45% 42% 1.02 0.02
McClatchy/Marist 44% 43% 0.98 -0.02
Bloomberg/Selzer 44% 41% 1.03 0.03
Reuters/Ipsos 42% 39% 1.03 0.03
Fox News 48% 44% 1.04 0.04
Boston Herald/Franklin Pierce/RKM 48% 44% 1.04 0.04
Angus Reid 48% 44% 1.04 0.04
ABC/Washington Post 47% 43% 1.05 0.04
Gravis Marketing 47% 43% 1.05 0.04*
Economist/YouGov 45% 41% 1.05 0.05
CBS News 45% 41% 1.05 0.05
Insights West 45% 41% 1.05 0.05
NBC/WSJ 44% 40% 1.05 0.05
Times-Picayune/Lucid 45% 40% 1.08 0.07
Monmouth 50% 44% 1.09 0.08
NBC/SurveyMonkey 47% 41% 1.10 0.09*
IBD/TIPP 43% 45% 0.91 -0.09
Pew 46% 40% 1.10 0.10
LA Times/USC 44% 47% 0.89 -0.12*
USA Today/Suffolk 49% 39% 1.20 0.18*
CNBC/Hart/POS 43% 33% 1.25 0.22*
Saint Leo University 45% 34% 1.27 0.24*
Actual 48.18% 46.09%
*The accuracy measures for the Gravis Marketing poll (sample size of 16,639), the USA Today/Suffolk poll (sample size of 1,000), the Saint Leo University poll (sample size of 1,050), the NBC/SurveyMonkey poll (sample size of 70,194), the CNBC/Hart/Public Opinion Strategies poll (sample size of 804), and the LA Times/USC poll (sample size of 2,972) fall outside the 95% confidence intervals.

The accuracy measures for the other 19 polls fall within the 95% confidence intervals.

The average absolute accuracy for all polls in 2016 is 0.070. The median absolute accuracy for all polls in 2016 is 0.049. The average absolute accuracy for the 19 polls in 2016 where the accuracy measures fall within the respective 95% confidence intervals is 0.045.

American Research Group?

Dismissed

As of 2016, ARG received a C+ rating from FiveThirtyEight.[6] FiveThirtyEight's Nate Silver has long critiqued ARG. In 2008, he wrote in Daily Kos about their poor track record and later challenged Bennett to a polling contest that the latter did not take up.[7][8] ARG was noted by Silver as performing particularly poorly in the 2012 US presidential election: "Polls by American Research Group ... largely missed the mark ... American Research Group has long been unreliable."[9] In 2016, Washington Monthly noted of ARG, based on FiveThirtyEight's analysis, that they have a slight Republican bias but more importantly, "They do not appear to be good at their jobs."[10]

In the 2008 US presidential primaries, ARG were "dead last among the nine organizations that polled in 10 or more contests" for accuracy.[11]

The Washington Post noted that in 2000 ARG's "tracking poll ended up buried deepest in the snowbank: They had Bush winning by two points the day before the primary -- merely 20 off the mark."[12] Salon found in 2004 that ARG did not reveal the funding sources of their polls.[13] Mother Jonesobserved in 2007 that ARG "may not be the bellwether for accurate polling."[5] The New Republic found in 2008 that "ARG is a black sheep of the polling world; I repeatedly heard it singled out for scorn by other pollsters."[14]​

Yes, YOU'RE dismissed. Even the left admits that Rasmussen was far more accurate than they.

 

[DrLove]

Yes, YOU'RE dismissed. Even the left admits that Rasmussen was far more accurate than they.

I'm not the one citing a sham organization who analyzed the data with a clear cut objective.

 

[Roudy]

I love it when Leftards start quoting those fake polls concocted by fake news sources.

Listen, ass wipe, you neo nuts can't have it both ways, when MSM, including CNN has the clown pass 39%, all peanut brain bitches rally in support, despite the fact the clown calls everything fake news, when it doesn't suit him....bottom line, no poll on this planet will ever and I mean ever sum up just how much this particular president is HATED!!

CNN?! Bwahahahahaha! Rasmussen has Trump's above 50% which is higher than Hussein Obama at the same time. I'll stick with real polls like Rasmussen.

Must suck that after a hoy ear of predatory fake news, hissy fit marches, and are polls, Trump ends up above your Hussien Obama!