New study shows income growth slowed under tRump.

[AzogtheDefiler]

Every last one of you tRumplings claims that. You also claim your taxes went down. You also all claim to independently wealthy job creators. You all also claim to be amateur gunsmiths who shoot like snipers. You all claim to have trophy wives. You all claim everything you think you need to go impress the rest of us.

You've told these lies too many times for anyone to believe them anymore.

Taxes went up personally as I could not write off my entire mortgage and local taxes. Corp. Taxes went down significantly. I am not a gunsmith. My wife is my age. I have two kids. I am not trying to impress anyone. Just saying I must be outside the norm.

 

[Crepitus]

Taxes went up personally as I could not write off my entire mortgage and local taxes. Corp. Taxes went down significantly. I am not a gunsmith. My wife is my age. I have two kids. I am not trying to impress anyone. Just saying I must be outside the norm.

Look out guys! He's backing up!

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Look out guys! He's backing up!

Nope. Not remotely. You're just being your usual dick self.

 

[Correll]

Every last one of you tRumplings claims that. You also claim your taxes went down. You also all claim to independently wealthy job creators. You all also claim to be amateur gunsmiths who shoot like snipers. You all claim to have trophy wives. You all claim everything you think you need to go impress the rest of us.

You've told these lies too many times for anyone to believe them anymore.

I claim you talk like a baby. A retarded baby. Because you do.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

No we are not looking for socialism.

Of course you are; but as a typical liberal you just lack the IQ to know that Universal Health Care, Green New Deal Depression and control of deodorant industry is socialism.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Every last one of you tRumplings claims that. You also claim your taxes went down. You also all claim to independently wealthy job creators. You all also claim to be amateur gunsmiths who shoot like snipers. You all claim to have trophy wives. You all claim everything you think you need to go impress the rest of us.

You've told these lies too many times for anyone to believe them anymore.

my taxes did go down
As for a trophy, wife beauty is in the eye of the beholder
As for independently wealthy Job creator, I don't need government taxpayers money to survive
As for the amateur gunsmith, I repair unworkable firearms f close friends
As for shooting like a sniper
But there is only one true way of finding out.

 

[Crepitus]

my taxes did go down
As for a trophy, wife beauty is in the eye of the beholder
As for independently wealthy Job creator, I don't need government taxpayers money to survive
As for the amateur gunsmith, I repair unworkable firearms f close friends
As for shooting like a sniper
But there is only one true way of finding out.
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I appreciate you making my point for me.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

my taxes did go down
As for a trophy, wife beauty is in the eye of the beholder
As for independently wealthy Job creator, I don't need government taxpayers money to survive
As for the amateur gunsmith, I repair unworkable firearms f close friends
As for shooting like a sniper
But there is only one true way of finding out.
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I appreciate you making my point for me.

And your point was to point out that Republicans should not be fucked with

 

[sealybobo]

The entire Republican party is deep state rinos. That's why Trump won. Who besides Trump do you like? I bet it's someone who toes the Trump line.

Well, this is Trump's party.

I have no idea what you are talking about now. There was a very bitter primary, and we, the rank and file were NOT happy with the way the leadership though they had the right to pick the next candidate.


The Deep State are government employees who use their position not to serve the roles they are supposed to, but to serve their political allies. Peter Strzok is the ultimate example. So far.


Rinos are republicans who are so moderate that they end up siding with the dems quite often, especially on very big issues, or critical times. Like the TIme teh Dems got caught with deep ties to Chinese money and McCain joined in, in a bi-partisan reform act, flushing a chance for serious partisan advantage.


These are real... groups of people. YOu seem to be pretending that they are just rhetorical excuses to dismiss people we disagree with.


That is not what we are doing. That is what you would do in our shoes.


YOu seem confused. What is the point of this line of reasoning?

I wish someone else whos honest and good did what trump did. Like a Michael Bloomberg type. He’s even a republican but I don’t think Bloomberg would cater to the extreme right. He would have catered to the middle.

Dont forget trump only had 2.3% growth in 2019 and he started a trade war with China. His changes to nafta are not that signifgiant and I don’t even know how his trade war with China is going. All I know is it cost me in 2019 for sure.

No the way he has handled corona unfortunately for you illustrates what a bad leader trump is. And ukraine proves he’s corrupt. And story proves he’s a scumbag. He checks every box.

 

[sealybobo]

Every last one of you tRumplings claims that. You also claim your taxes went down. You also all claim to independently wealthy job creators. You all also claim to be amateur gunsmiths who shoot like snipers. You all claim to have trophy wives. You all claim everything you think you need to go impress the rest of us.

You've told these lies too many times for anyone to believe them anymore.

my taxes did go down
As for a trophy, wife beauty is in the eye of the beholder
As for independently wealthy Job creator, I don't need government taxpayers money to survive
As for the amateur gunsmith, I repair unworkable firearms f close friends
As for shooting like a sniper
But there is only one true way of finding out.
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Yea my taxes went down but his trade war with China cost me more in 2019

 

[sealybobo]

No we are not looking for socialism.

Of course you are; but as a typical liberal you just lack the IQ to know that Universal Health Care, Green New Deal Depression and control of deodorant industry is socialism.

1. If regulating industry is socialism then trumps a socialist.

2. Do you hate public schools and social security? Do you think prisons should be privatized?

3. what do you mean green new deal depression? How is that socialism? I don’t even know what green new deal depression is. The last Great Recession started on Bush’s watch. Is he a socialist?

And trumps depression we’re in right now? Is this socialism? Because I wasn’t alive the last time before those recessions.

So when I think of near depressions I think of republican presidents. Democrats clean up their messes

 

[sealybobo]

Every last one of you tRumplings claims that. You also claim your taxes went down. You also all claim to independently wealthy job creators. You all also claim to be amateur gunsmiths who shoot like snipers. You all claim to have trophy wives. You all claim everything you think you need to go impress the rest of us.

You've told these lies too many times for anyone to believe them anymore.

Taxes went up personally as I could not write off my entire mortgage and local taxes. Corp. Taxes went down significantly. I am not a gunsmith. My wife is my age. I have two kids. I am not trying to impress anyone. Just saying I must be outside the norm.

I might have had my best year ever in 2019 but trump started a trade war with China. I did alright but who knows how much that trade war stopped corporations from buying capital equipment. I’m sure there’s a number for how much his trade war cost us.

Think about this. After that huge tax break we all got in 2018 we only had 2.3% growth in 2019. Candidate trump bashed president Obama for having similar numbers.

 

[Crepitus]

Every last one of you tRumplings claims that. You also claim your taxes went down. You also all claim to independently wealthy job creators. You all also claim to be amateur gunsmiths who shoot like snipers. You all claim to have trophy wives. You all claim everything you think you need to go impress the rest of us.

You've told these lies too many times for anyone to believe them anymore.

my taxes did go down
As for a trophy, wife beauty is in the eye of the beholder
As for independently wealthy Job creator, I don't need government taxpayers money to survive
As for the amateur gunsmith, I repair unworkable firearms f close friends
As for shooting like a sniper
But there is only one true way of finding out.
View attachment 364533
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Yea my taxes went down but his trade war with China cost me more in 2019

Mine went up. Not being able to deduct state killed me.

 

[sealybobo]

Every last one of you tRumplings claims that. You also claim your taxes went down. You also all claim to independently wealthy job creators. You all also claim to be amateur gunsmiths who shoot like snipers. You all claim to have trophy wives. You all claim everything you think you need to go impress the rest of us.

You've told these lies too many times for anyone to believe them anymore.

my taxes did go down
As for a trophy, wife beauty is in the eye of the beholder
As for independently wealthy Job creator, I don't need government taxpayers money to survive
As for the amateur gunsmith, I repair unworkable firearms f close friends
As for shooting like a sniper
But there is only one true way of finding out.
View attachment 364533
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Yea my taxes went down but his trade war with China cost me more in 2019

Mine went up. Not being able to deduct state killed me.

Trump literally designed the bill to punish blue states who didn’t vote for him. Then he moved from nyc to Florida.

One thing that gives me comfort is trump is not getting to enjoy his celebrity. He loves the attention and to mingle with other celebrities. H can no longer do that. Most of the people he wants to hang with are liberals. Trump used to be a liberal. His way into the White House just happened to be as a republican. Anyways, they had to cancel the Kennedy awards where all past presidents have done. It’s a lot of fun. They knew no celebrities would come so they had to cancel.

And the deplorables at trump rallies who elected him? He can stand those people. He likes rubbing elbows with famous people not Hicks.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Every last one of you tRumplings claims that. You also claim your taxes went down. You also all claim to independently wealthy job creators. You all also claim to be amateur gunsmiths who shoot like snipers. You all claim to have trophy wives. You all claim everything you think you need to go impress the rest of us.

You've told these lies too many times for anyone to believe them anymore.

my taxes did go down
As for a trophy, wife beauty is in the eye of the beholder
As for independently wealthy Job creator, I don't need government taxpayers money to survive
As for the amateur gunsmith, I repair unworkable firearms f close friends
As for shooting like a sniper
But there is only one true way of finding out.
View attachment 364533
View attachment 364534

Yea my taxes went down but his trade war with China cost me more in 2019

Mine went up. Not being able to deduct state killed me.

Trump literally designed the bill to punish blue states who didn’t vote for him. Then he moved from nyc to Florida.

One thing that gives me comfort is trump is not getting to enjoy his celebrity. He loves the attention and to mingle with other celebrities. H can no longer do that. Most of the people he wants to hang with are liberals. Trump used to be a liberal. His way into the White House just happened to be as a republican. Anyways, they had to cancel the Kennedy awards where all past presidents have done. It’s a lot of fun. They knew no celebrities would come so they had to cancel.

And the deplorables at trump rallies who elected him? He can stand those people. He likes rubbing elbows with famous people not Hicks.

Sure states with high taxes
Ending the home owners deduction killed those high tax blue state'ers

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Every last one of you tRumplings claims that. You also claim your taxes went down. You also all claim to independently wealthy job creators. You all also claim to be amateur gunsmiths who shoot like snipers. You all claim to have trophy wives. You all claim everything you think you need to go impress the rest of us.

You've told these lies too many times for anyone to believe them anymore.

my taxes did go down
As for a trophy, wife beauty is in the eye of the beholder
As for independently wealthy Job creator, I don't need government taxpayers money to survive
As for the amateur gunsmith, I repair unworkable firearms f close friends
As for shooting like a sniper
But there is only one true way of finding out.
View attachment 364533
View attachment 364534

Yea my taxes went down but his trade war with China cost me more in 2019

Don't buy Chinese problem solves

 

[Correll]

The entire Republican party is deep state rinos. That's why Trump won. Who besides Trump do you like? I bet it's someone who toes the Trump line.

Well, this is Trump's party.

I have no idea what you are talking about now. There was a very bitter primary, and we, the rank and file were NOT happy with the way the leadership though they had the right to pick the next candidate.


The Deep State are government employees who use their position not to serve the roles they are supposed to, but to serve their political allies. Peter Strzok is the ultimate example. So far.


Rinos are republicans who are so moderate that they end up siding with the dems quite often, especially on very big issues, or critical times. Like the TIme teh Dems got caught with deep ties to Chinese money and McCain joined in, in a bi-partisan reform act, flushing a chance for serious partisan advantage.


These are real... groups of people. YOu seem to be pretending that they are just rhetorical excuses to dismiss people we disagree with.


That is not what we are doing. That is what you would do in our shoes.


YOu seem confused. What is the point of this line of reasoning?

I wish someone else whos honest and good did what trump did. Like a Michael Bloomberg type. He’s even a republican but I don’t think Bloomberg would cater to the extreme right. He would have catered to the middle.
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Ann Coulter has been trying to get mainstream republicans to take up these issues forever. The Conventional Wisdom was that there were "no more white votes" to get.

So, the issues, the valid issues, and interests of working class whites, just laid there, untouched, until a smart and ambitious outsider wanted to find a way to become President of the United States.


The failure of the "someone else" to do this, is on them.


Trump might not be the best man for it, but it is better that SOMEONE did it, than that we continued to be ignored.

AND, if after Trump, the political establishment goes back to ignoring us, that will not be good either.


You agree with that, don't you?

 

[sealybobo]

Every last one of you tRumplings claims that. You also claim your taxes went down. You also all claim to independently wealthy job creators. You all also claim to be amateur gunsmiths who shoot like snipers. You all claim to have trophy wives. You all claim everything you think you need to go impress the rest of us.

You've told these lies too many times for anyone to believe them anymore.

my taxes did go down
As for a trophy, wife beauty is in the eye of the beholder
As for independently wealthy Job creator, I don't need government taxpayers money to survive
As for the amateur gunsmith, I repair unworkable firearms f close friends
As for shooting like a sniper
But there is only one true way of finding out.
View attachment 364533
View attachment 364534

Yea my taxes went down but his trade war with China cost me more in 2019

Don't buy Chinese problem solves

But one of our machines is a Chinese made machine.

So you republicans want to become isolationists? Impossible. Reagan and Nixon and bush let that genie out of the bottle. It was a done deal that’s why Clinton signed nafta. And every republican voted yes.

Besides trump which other republicans want to isolate from the rest of the world.

Remember when reagan was president you guys said gm, Chrysler and Ford all sucked and you insisted on buying Toyota’s and hondas?

 

[Andylusion]

Under President Trump, income growth has slowed across the U.S.

"
Middle-class incomes grew at a rate of 2.7 percent from 2016 through 2018, compared to a 5.8 percent growth rate from 2014 through 2016 when accounting for inflation.

"Despite what we heard at the State of the Union, the truth is that this economy is not performing well for most Americans," says Thea Lee, president of the Washington, D.C.-based Economic Policy Institute (EPI). "At this point in the business cycle, wage and income growth for working households should be accelerating, not slowing.""

This is "winning"?

Not in my book.

Also:

"All but two states saw a decline in growth of real median household income under Trump – including Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Michigan, and Florida, four states widely regarded as the key electoral battlegrounds that will likely determine the 2020 presidential election."

Bad things kids, bad things.

Household income is a bad statistic.

Say you have 3 people, a wife, husband, and 18-year-old son, all working. Husband is making $60K, the Wife $30K and the son is part time making $10k.

Household income is $100,000 a year.

Say the wife and husband get a divorce, and the son moves out to go to college.

Now you have 3 households with incomes of $60K, $30K, and $10K.

You think that might lower the "median" household income? Yes.

In fact, even if all of them got a 50% increase in income, it would still be $90K, $45K and $15K.

The median 'household' income would be lower, while every single person was earning more than ever before in their lives.

Famous economist Thomas Sowell, says that any time someone uses "household income" instead of individual incomes, he knows they are pushing a political agenda, instead of real economics.

 

[sealybobo]

The entire Republican party is deep state rinos. That's why Trump won. Who besides Trump do you like? I bet it's someone who toes the Trump line.

Well, this is Trump's party.

I have no idea what you are talking about now. There was a very bitter primary, and we, the rank and file were NOT happy with the way the leadership though they had the right to pick the next candidate.


The Deep State are government employees who use their position not to serve the roles they are supposed to, but to serve their political allies. Peter Strzok is the ultimate example. So far.


Rinos are republicans who are so moderate that they end up siding with the dems quite often, especially on very big issues, or critical times. Like the TIme teh Dems got caught with deep ties to Chinese money and McCain joined in, in a bi-partisan reform act, flushing a chance for serious partisan advantage.


These are real... groups of people. YOu seem to be pretending that they are just rhetorical excuses to dismiss people we disagree with.


That is not what we are doing. That is what you would do in our shoes.


YOu seem confused. What is the point of this line of reasoning?

I wish someone else whos honest and good did what trump did. Like a Michael Bloomberg type. He’s even a republican but I don’t think Bloomberg would cater to the extreme right. He would have catered to the middle.
....

Ann Coulter has been trying to get mainstream republicans to take up these issues forever. The Conventional Wisdom was that there were "no more white votes" to get.

So, the issues, the valid issues, and interests of working class whites, just laid there, untouched, until a smart and ambitious outsider wanted to find a way to become President of the United States.


The failure of the "someone else" to do this, is on them.


Trump might not be the best man for it, but it is better that SOMEONE did it, than that we continued to be ignored.

AND, if after Trump, the political establishment goes back to ignoring us, that will not be good either.


You agree with that, don't you?

I think trump was smart for taping that white anger. He won didn’t he? I think those whites are idiots greedy and racist but I think trump was smart to tap into that.

Maybe McCain would have won if Carl rove thought of it back then

But I think trump has gone too far and his behavior is only acceptable to his base and that won’t get him re elected