New rules of engagement for stone throwers from the IDF. Expect quite a few deaths

[ogibillm]

gee, now all you have to do is say the magic words "he threw a rock" and you can kill whomever you like. isn't that nice.

Because stoning people to death is way cooler.

**** off, Anti-Zionists. We see a stone, we target. We're tired of our graveyards being so overcrowded.

you have to be kidding. the graveyards that are crowded are not israeli graveyards - the crowded ones contain the palestinians killed by israel - and the numbers aren't even close.

More Palestinians mass murdered by Jordan in one month that Israel has killed in war over 67 years. How many Jews in Palestine have been massacred by arab muslims over the years ?

less than palestinians killed by israel. you know that to be true, why would you deny it?

Well, the goal is not to die for your country. The goal is for the OTHER guy to die for his. Israelis are just way better at fighting than Palestinians. Maybe if they stopped being so backasswards and started being constructive they could build Gaza into a tourist mecca instead of the shithole it currently is.

maybe we should start selling arms and training the palestinians.

israel and palestine aren't the same. israel receives the backing of the united states including weapons and money. the palestinians can't even raise an army.

 

[ogibillm]

gee, now all you have to do is say the magic words "he threw a rock" and you can kill whomever you like. isn't that nice.

Criminal behavior carries with it the expectation of consequences.

That is nice.

don't you believe in proving guilt before carrying out justice? do you believe death is an appropriate response for a non-lethal attack?

Proving guilt before carrying out justice seems to suggest a Western standard of jurisprudence. Where in sharia are such precepts as discovery, trial by jury, evidedenciary hearings provided for?

Lastly, rock throwing can be lethal, to the throw'ee and now to the Arab throw'er.

who gives a shit about your beliefs about what sharia does or does not do? that's not what we're talking about.

i'm asking you why you think it's okay to shoot someone for a non-lethal crime, a crime in which it's possible there was not even injury, and a crime for which evidence is not always available after the fact

Non lethal? I guess all those people getting stoned to death by the Muslim extremists aren't really dead then....

water is lethal too in the right quantities. doesn't mean you shoot someone with a water balloon.

 

[rylah]

Because stoning people to death is way cooler.

**** off, Anti-Zionists. We see a stone, we target. We're tired of our graveyards being so overcrowded.

you have to be kidding. the graveyards that are crowded are not israeli graveyards - the crowded ones contain the palestinians killed by israel - and the numbers aren't even close.

More Palestinians mass murdered by Jordan in one month that Israel has killed in war over 67 years. How many Jews in Palestine have been massacred by arab muslims over the years ?

less than palestinians killed by israel. you know that to be true, why would you deny it?

Well, the goal is not to die for your country. The goal is for the OTHER guy to die for his. Israelis are just way better at fighting than Palestinians. Maybe if they stopped being so backasswards and started being constructive they could build Gaza into a tourist mecca instead of the shithole it currently is.

maybe we should start selling arms and training the palestinians.

israel and palestine aren't the same. israel receives the backing of the united states including weapons and money. the palestinians can't even raise an army.

Maybe You want to visit a local jail for a couple of years for partnering with a terrorist organization?

But aim at some dark hole in the ME... good luck

 

[westwall]

Because stoning people to death is way cooler.

**** off, Anti-Zionists. We see a stone, we target. We're tired of our graveyards being so overcrowded.

you have to be kidding. the graveyards that are crowded are not israeli graveyards - the crowded ones contain the palestinians killed by israel - and the numbers aren't even close.

More Palestinians mass murdered by Jordan in one month that Israel has killed in war over 67 years. How many Jews in Palestine have been massacred by arab muslims over the years ?

less than palestinians killed by israel. you know that to be true, why would you deny it?

Well, the goal is not to die for your country. The goal is for the OTHER guy to die for his. Israelis are just way better at fighting than Palestinians. Maybe if they stopped being so backasswards and started being constructive they could build Gaza into a tourist mecca instead of the shithole it currently is.

maybe we should start selling arms and training the palestinians.

israel and palestine aren't the same. israel receives the backing of the united states including weapons and money. the palestinians can't even raise an army.

Maybe the Palestinians should stop being assholes and work to make Gaza the jewel on the Med it could be. The Israelis gave up a tremendous piece of land and instead of being constructive and creative the Palestinians have destroyed it.

**** them. And **** anyone who can't think beyond the point of their nose. Gaza could be a tourist mecca. Gaza could be a huge money maker. Gaza could be the engine that drives Palestinian freedom. Sadly though, it is populated by Palestinians who know nothing but death and destruction.

 

[westwall]

Criminal behavior carries with it the expectation of consequences.

That is nice.

don't you believe in proving guilt before carrying out justice? do you believe death is an appropriate response for a non-lethal attack?

Proving guilt before carrying out justice seems to suggest a Western standard of jurisprudence. Where in sharia are such precepts as discovery, trial by jury, evidedenciary hearings provided for?

Lastly, rock throwing can be lethal, to the throw'ee and now to the Arab throw'er.

who gives a shit about your beliefs about what sharia does or does not do? that's not what we're talking about.

i'm asking you why you think it's okay to shoot someone for a non-lethal crime, a crime in which it's possible there was not even injury, and a crime for which evidence is not always available after the fact

Non lethal? I guess all those people getting stoned to death by the Muslim extremists aren't really dead then....

water is lethal too in the right quantities. doesn't mean you shoot someone with a water balloon.

Non-sequitur much? I've been hit with untold numbers of water balloons. They don't seem to hurt much. Rocks are lethal. ARWEN isn't. For all of its menacing look it was DESIGNED to not kill. Trust me. You would far rather be shot by a baton round from ARWEN than hit by a rock.

 

[Penelope]

Because stoning people to death is way cooler.

**** off, Anti-Zionists. We see a stone, we target. We're tired of our graveyards being so overcrowded.

you have to be kidding. the graveyards that are crowded are not israeli graveyards - the crowded ones contain the palestinians killed by israel - and the numbers aren't even close.

More Palestinians mass murdered by Jordan in one month that Israel has killed in war over 67 years. How many Jews in Palestine have been massacred by arab muslims over the years ?

less than palestinians killed by israel. you know that to be true, why would you deny it?

Well, the goal is not to die for your country. The goal is for the OTHER guy to die for his. Israelis are just way better at fighting than Palestinians. Maybe if they stopped being so backasswards and started being constructive they could build Gaza into a tourist mecca instead of the shithole it currently is.

maybe we should start selling arms and training the palestinians.

israel and palestine aren't the same. israel receives the backing of the united states including weapons and money. the palestinians can't even raise an army.

I agree, we ought to be sending them rifles, and they can protect themselves fairly, the IDF are big shots who shoot at children.

 

[Coyote]

Any indication that the IDF intend to apply this new "shoot the rock throwers" policy to the Jewish settlers throwing rocks?

 

[rylah]

Any indication that the IDF intend to apply this new "shoot the rock throwers" policy to the Jewish settlers throwing rocks?

Why should they? Do they endanger the lives of Israeli citizens?

 

[Coyote]

Any indication that the IDF intend to apply this new "shoot the rock throwers" policy to the Jewish settlers throwing rocks?

Why should they? Do they endanger the lives of Israeli citizens?

So you are confirming there are legal double standards here where Jewish settlers in Occupied Territory get nothing and Palestinians get shot? All for the exact same crime?

 

[rylah]

Any indication that the IDF intend to apply this new "shoot the rock throwers" policy to the Jewish settlers throwing rocks?

Why should they? Do they endanger the lives of Israeli citizens?

So you are confirming there are legal double standards here where Jewish settlers in Occupied Territory get nothing and Palestinians get shot? All for the exact same crime?

No there's a difference between a govt. protecting its' citizens and protecting citizens of other states or authorities. What is logically predominant?
Do Israelis in Samaria target Israelis praying? Or do they look intentionally to murder soldiers?

 

[westwall]

Any indication that the IDF intend to apply this new "shoot the rock throwers" policy to the Jewish settlers throwing rocks?

Why should they? Do they endanger the lives of Israeli citizens?

So you are confirming there are legal double standards here where Jewish settlers in Occupied Territory get nothing and Palestinians get shot? All for the exact same crime?

No there's a difference between a govt. protecting its' citizens and protecting citizens of other states or authorities. What is logically predominant?
Do Israelis in Samaria target Israelis praying? Or do they look intentionally to murder soldiers?

Coyote is making a valid point. Jewish settlers who throw rocks at Palestinians are every bit as much in the wrong as the Palestinians who are doing the same.

 

[rylah]

Any indication that the IDF intend to apply this new "shoot the rock throwers" policy to the Jewish settlers throwing rocks?

Why should they? Do they endanger the lives of Israeli citizens?

So you are confirming there are legal double standards here where Jewish settlers in Occupied Territory get nothing and Palestinians get shot? All for the exact same crime?

No there's a difference between a govt. protecting its' citizens and protecting citizens of other states or authorities. What is logically predominant?
Do Israelis in Samaria target Israelis praying? Or do they look intentionally to murder soldiers?

Coyote is making a valid point. Jewish settlers who throw rocks at Palestinians are every bit as much in the wrong as the Palestinians who are doing the same.

So Palestinians who don't have Israeli citizenship should enjoy the same rights as Israelis??

They can't be both.
Is there a country that You expect to protect foreigners as much as its' citizens?

 

[westwall]

Any indication that the IDF intend to apply this new "shoot the rock throwers" policy to the Jewish settlers throwing rocks?

Why should they? Do they endanger the lives of Israeli citizens?

So you are confirming there are legal double standards here where Jewish settlers in Occupied Territory get nothing and Palestinians get shot? All for the exact same crime?

No there's a difference between a govt. protecting its' citizens and protecting citizens of other states or authorities. What is logically predominant?
Do Israelis in Samaria target Israelis praying? Or do they look intentionally to murder soldiers?

Coyote is making a valid point. Jewish settlers who throw rocks at Palestinians are every bit as much in the wrong as the Palestinians who are doing the same.

So Palestinians who don't have Israeli citizenship should enjoy the same rights as Israelis??

They can't be both.

Are Palestinians human beings. Yes/No. If they are human beings they have the right to not have rocks thrown at them. It's as simple as that. Mexicans here in the USA are not open targets for the moronic and the stupid to throw rocks at, or beer bottles, or bullets, just because they are here illegally.

 

[Humanity]

Hhhh no commentary is needed.

But for Jihadis they think that if they're not caught admitting to what anyway is clear in the evidence- they've supposedly 'fooled' us...

Oh I see

I see You've ran out of word again.

Who was referred for his/her name calling this week?

Not run out of words no...

Simply see no point in wasting them on you!

Who was referred this week for no content/trolling?

I shouldn't worry about it, when the Zionuts have got nothing, they just make unsubstantiated assertions, fear-monger, try to create "guilt by association", and make accusations of "anti-Semitism; it's pathetic but only to be expected from Zionuts, Hasbarists and their "Sayanim" and "Bodlim".

So easy to omit the Arab crimes and use the "hasbara card" while acting
as a child: "didn't convince, didn't convince me yet"
when been exposed to clear Hamas, Fatah, Arab League crimes against those balestinians.

 

[westwall]

Oh I see

I see You've ran out of word again.

Who was referred for his/her name calling this week?

Not run out of words no...

Simply see no point in wasting them on you!

Who was referred this week for no content/trolling?

I shouldn't worry about it, when the Zionuts have got nothing, they just make unsubstantiated assertions, fear-monger, try to create "guilt by association", and make accusations of "anti-Semitism; it's pathetic but only to be expected from Zionuts, Hasbarists and their "Sayanim" and "Bodlim".

So easy to omit the Arab crimes and use the "hasbara card" while acting
as a child: "didn't convince, didn't convince me yet"
when been exposed to clear Hamas, Fatah, Arab League crimes against those balestinians.

You're a troll too, so I would be careful what you post.

 

[rylah]

Now back to topic- funny it's me doing so:

Do Israelis have now to provide Palestinian citizens (non-Israelis) with the same care as their citizens?
Discrimination can be considered among citizens but not among two authorities at war. It's ridiculous.

 

[rylah]

Why should they? Do they endanger the lives of Israeli citizens?

So you are confirming there are legal double standards here where Jewish settlers in Occupied Territory get nothing and Palestinians get shot? All for the exact same crime?

No there's a difference between a govt. protecting its' citizens and protecting citizens of other states or authorities. What is logically predominant?
Do Israelis in Samaria target Israelis praying? Or do they look intentionally to murder soldiers?

Coyote is making a valid point. Jewish settlers who throw rocks at Palestinians are every bit as much in the wrong as the Palestinians who are doing the same.

So Palestinians who don't have Israeli citizenship should enjoy the same rights as Israelis??

They can't be both.

Are Palestinians human beings. Yes/No. If they are human beings they have the right to not have rocks thrown at them. It's as simple as that. Mexicans here in the USA are not open targets for the moronic and the stupid to throw rocks at, or beer bottles, or bullets, just because they are here illegally.

Why should they? Do they endanger the lives of Israeli citizens?

So you are confirming there are legal double standards here where Jewish settlers in Occupied Territory get nothing and Palestinians get shot? All for the exact same crime?

No there's a difference between a govt. protecting its' citizens and protecting citizens of other states or authorities. What is logically predominant?
Do Israelis in Samaria target Israelis praying? Or do they look intentionally to murder soldiers?

Coyote is making a valid point. Jewish settlers who throw rocks at Palestinians are every bit as much in the wrong as the Palestinians who are doing the same.

So Palestinians who don't have Israeli citizenship should enjoy the same rights as Israelis??

They can't be both.

Are Palestinians human beings. Yes/No. If they are human beings they have the right to not have rocks thrown at them. It's as simple as that. Mexicans here in the USA are not open targets for the moronic and the stupid to throw rocks at, or beer bottles, or bullets, just because they are here illegally.

Don't give me that 'human or not?' before You ask those Palestinians whom do those Arab muslim balestinians consider Jews to be.

Yes they're human but their Arab brothers seem to treat them worse than that...and surely worse than Israel.

 

[westwall]

So you are confirming there are legal double standards here where Jewish settlers in Occupied Territory get nothing and Palestinians get shot? All for the exact same crime?

No there's a difference between a govt. protecting its' citizens and protecting citizens of other states or authorities. What is logically predominant?
Do Israelis in Samaria target Israelis praying? Or do they look intentionally to murder soldiers?

Coyote is making a valid point. Jewish settlers who throw rocks at Palestinians are every bit as much in the wrong as the Palestinians who are doing the same.

So Palestinians who don't have Israeli citizenship should enjoy the same rights as Israelis??

They can't be both.

Are Palestinians human beings. Yes/No. If they are human beings they have the right to not have rocks thrown at them. It's as simple as that. Mexicans here in the USA are not open targets for the moronic and the stupid to throw rocks at, or beer bottles, or bullets, just because they are here illegally.

So you are confirming there are legal double standards here where Jewish settlers in Occupied Territory get nothing and Palestinians get shot? All for the exact same crime?

No there's a difference between a govt. protecting its' citizens and protecting citizens of other states or authorities. What is logically predominant?
Do Israelis in Samaria target Israelis praying? Or do they look intentionally to murder soldiers?

Coyote is making a valid point. Jewish settlers who throw rocks at Palestinians are every bit as much in the wrong as the Palestinians who are doing the same.

So Palestinians who don't have Israeli citizenship should enjoy the same rights as Israelis??

They can't be both.

Are Palestinians human beings. Yes/No. If they are human beings they have the right to not have rocks thrown at them. It's as simple as that. Mexicans here in the USA are not open targets for the moronic and the stupid to throw rocks at, or beer bottles, or bullets, just because they are here illegally.

Don't give me that 'human or not?' before You ask those Palestinians whom do those Arab muslim balestinians consider Jews to be.

Yes they're human but their Arab brothers seem to treat them worse than that...and surely worse than Israel.

Is it ethical to throw rocks at people? Yes or no? If a Palestinian who is unprovoked throws a rock at a Jew I expect the Jew to defend him or herself. Is it any different if a Jew who is otherwise unprovoked does the same?

 

[Humanity]

Any indication that the IDF intend to apply this new "shoot the rock throwers" policy to the Jewish settlers throwing rocks?

Why should they? Do they endanger the lives of Israeli citizens?

So you are confirming there are legal double standards here where Jewish settlers in Occupied Territory get nothing and Palestinians get shot? All for the exact same crime?

No there's a difference between a govt. protecting its' citizens and protecting citizens of other states or authorities. What is logically predominant?
Do Israelis in Samaria target Israelis praying? Or do they look intentionally to murder soldiers?

Coyote is making a valid point. Jewish settlers who throw rocks at Palestinians are every bit as much in the wrong as the Palestinians who are doing the same.

Whooo... Talkin some sense at last Mr "Staff Member"...

Guess the drugs are wearing off!

Everyone is equal... Jews throwing stones, Palestinians throwing stones... It just wrong!

No room for double standards in this conflict...

Just find a solution that works!

 

[westwall]

Any indication that the IDF intend to apply this new "shoot the rock throwers" policy to the Jewish settlers throwing rocks?

Why should they? Do they endanger the lives of Israeli citizens?

So you are confirming there are legal double standards here where Jewish settlers in Occupied Territory get nothing and Palestinians get shot? All for the exact same crime?

No there's a difference between a govt. protecting its' citizens and protecting citizens of other states or authorities. What is logically predominant?
Do Israelis in Samaria target Israelis praying? Or do they look intentionally to murder soldiers?

Coyote is making a valid point. Jewish settlers who throw rocks at Palestinians are every bit as much in the wrong as the Palestinians who are doing the same.

Whooo... Talkin some sense at last Mr "Staff Member"...

Guess the drugs are wearing off!

Everyone is equal... Jews throwing stones, Palestinians throwing stones... It just wrong!

No room for double standards in this conflict...

Just find a solution that works!

I always talk sense moron. It's you and the other extremists who can't or won't. I despise extremist Jews every bit as I despise extremist Palestinians, or Baptists, or environmentalists. Basically if you're an asshole who thinks that I should do, or follow, or believe what you want me to, and you'll kill me if I don't, then i have no time for you, nor do I care about you.

I care about the rational, productive people who are trying to carry on with their lives in the midst of a bunch of delusional parasites who's sole contribution to mankind is murder, mayhem, and misery.

Take your crap and shove it up your ass.