New rules of engagement for stone throwers from the IDF. Expect quite a few deaths

[westwall]

Proving guilt before carrying out justice seems to suggest a Western standard of jurisprudence. Where in sharia are such precepts as discovery, trial by jury, evidedenciary hearings provided for?

Lastly, rock throwing can be lethal, to the throw'ee and now to the Arab throw'er.

who gives a shit about your beliefs about what sharia does or does not do? that's not what we're talking about.

i'm asking you why you think it's okay to shoot someone for a non-lethal crime, a crime in which it's possible there was not even injury, and a crime for which evidence is not always available after the fact

Non lethal? I guess all those people getting stoned to death by the Muslim extremists aren't really dead then....

water is lethal too in the right quantities. doesn't mean you shoot someone with a water balloon.

Non-sequitur much? I've been hit with untold numbers of water balloons. They don't seem to hurt much. Rocks are lethal. ARWEN isn't. For all of its menacing look it was DESIGNED to not kill. Trust me. You would far rather be shot by a baton round from ARWEN than hit by a rock.

The ones used by the British in N.I. were fired from a short barrel shotgun and tumbled in flight. A trick used was to fire at the ground in front of the terrorists and have the 12 inch baton round break apart and disable more than one person. This also made them lethal so the army banned their use in this manner.

It's not a trick, it's actually a requirement to reduce the velocity of the projectile to ensure it does not cause damage. If fired at short range at someone's head there is a small chance that the hit could be lethal.

When the target is too close the operator is supposed to bounce it off the ground.

 

[Phoenall]

Any indication that the IDF intend to apply this new "shoot the rock throwers" policy to the Jewish settlers throwing rocks?

Why should they? Do they endanger the lives of Israeli citizens?

So you are confirming there are legal double standards here where Jewish settlers in Occupied Territory get nothing and Palestinians get shot? All for the exact same crime?

Not for the same crime at all, the crimes are different as chalk and cheese. The Palestinians are terrorists using terrorist methods and have declared as such to the UN. The Jews are defending against terrorist attack, want to see them start shooting Palestinians for trespassing on Jewish land ?

 

[Phoenall]

No there's a difference between a govt. protecting its' citizens and protecting citizens of other states or authorities. What is logically predominant?
Do Israelis in Samaria target Israelis praying? Or do they look intentionally to murder soldiers?

Coyote is making a valid point. Jewish settlers who throw rocks at Palestinians are every bit as much in the wrong as the Palestinians who are doing the same.

So Palestinians who don't have Israeli citizenship should enjoy the same rights as Israelis??

They can't be both.

Are Palestinians human beings. Yes/No. If they are human beings they have the right to not have rocks thrown at them. It's as simple as that. Mexicans here in the USA are not open targets for the moronic and the stupid to throw rocks at, or beer bottles, or bullets, just because they are here illegally.

No there's a difference between a govt. protecting its' citizens and protecting citizens of other states or authorities. What is logically predominant?
Do Israelis in Samaria target Israelis praying? Or do they look intentionally to murder soldiers?

Coyote is making a valid point. Jewish settlers who throw rocks at Palestinians are every bit as much in the wrong as the Palestinians who are doing the same.

So Palestinians who don't have Israeli citizenship should enjoy the same rights as Israelis??

They can't be both.

Are Palestinians human beings. Yes/No. If they are human beings they have the right to not have rocks thrown at them. It's as simple as that. Mexicans here in the USA are not open targets for the moronic and the stupid to throw rocks at, or beer bottles, or bullets, just because they are here illegally.

Don't give me that 'human or not?' before You ask those Palestinians whom do those Arab muslim balestinians consider Jews to be.

Yes they're human but their Arab brothers seem to treat them worse than that...and surely worse than Israel.

Is it ethical to throw rocks at people? Yes or no? If a Palestinian who is unprovoked throws a rock at a Jew I expect the Jew to defend him or herself. Is it any different if a Jew who is otherwise unprovoked does the same?

One of the major problems we have is the Palestinians all seem to have state of the art smart phones so they can take films of the Israeli's defending themselves. Then with clever editing and out of focus frames from another event they produce a video that shows a different story to the real events. This is pallywood propaganda at its best and we can all see the seams, but still the gullible take it in and peddle the film as if it is a real account. Then when the seams are unravelled we get cries of hasbara, Zionists, propaganda and the like because we dare to show that it is all a lie and that they have been taken in by third world terrorists.

 

[RoccoR]

Coyote, et al,

I believe that policy is already in place and has been in place since the Israeli Police adopted modern Western Law Enforcement Standards on the use of force.

All Israeli citizen (in Israel or the oPt --- makes no difference) are subject to Israel criminal law statutes, the Police Act of 1971, and the adoption of a fairly standard policy in the use of force by Law Enforcement personnel.

Any indication that the IDF intend to apply this new "shoot the rock throwers" policy to the Jewish settlers throwing rocks?

(COMMENT)

The stage is where hostile Arab Palestinians, with a total disregard for safety and security, intentionally instigate events where by Palestinian civilians, including the use of children, in the West Bank and Gaza Strip (over the past three years) disruptions are escalating into deadly confrontations with near total impunity on the part of the Hostile Arab Palestinians. Some of these events are stage for no other reason than to create a media frenzy and sympathy media pieces featuring the propaganda story theme of the "poor and downtrodden Palestinians surfs heroically standing-up against a giant of the colonial empire that has subjugated the Palestinians for decades." The Arab Palestinians taunt and prod Israeli Security Forces for the purpose of manufacturing a body of evidence that shows a harrowing pattern of unlawful killings and unwarranted injuries of Palestinian civilians by Israeli forces in the West Bank. The repetitive format, frequency of the events, and persistence of arbitrary locations and abusive force used against usually outnumbered police and security personnel in the West Bank – and the impunity enjoyed by perpetrators – suggests that it is carried out as a matter of policy and developed strategy of the Ramallah Government.

While the Hostile Arab Palestinians are trying to play down the rock throwing and use of improvised incendiary devices as not as lethal as the response, this is again, only to elicit sympathy. Anyone who has suffered a serious burn injury can imaging what it might be like to be struck by a Palestinian Molotov Cocktail. And as everyone knows in the Middle East, the favorite erotic execution method by men on women is stoning.

The Israeli Police and Security Forces should be ready to use deadly force in such circumstances as:

• Defending themselves from deadly force used by Hostile Arab Palestinians.
• Defending a third person from deadly force used by Hostile Arab Palestinians.
• To make an arrest or prevent the escape from custody of a Hostile Arab Palestinians using deadly force.
• To make an arrest or prevent the escape of suspect felons believed to have committed or attempted to commit attacks that inflict or attempt to inflict grievous bodily harm or serious physical injury.
​

This is the very same standard that Police generally apply to Israeli citizens. And it is a very reasonable standard to use in the performance of their duties when the Police and Security forces are confronted with a set of conditions that place them at risk from grievous bodily harm or serious physical injury at the hands of Belligerent or Hostile Arab Palestinians (who are unable to productively contribute to the enhancement of their state).

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Coyote]

Coyote, et al,

I believe that policy is already in place and has been in place since the Israeli Police adopted modern Western Law Enforcement Standards on the use of force.

All Israeli citizen (in Israel or the oPt --- makes no difference) are subject to Israel criminal law statutes, the Police Act of 1971, and the adoption of a fairly standard policy in the use of force by Law Enforcement personnel.

Any indication that the IDF intend to apply this new "shoot the rock throwers" policy to the Jewish settlers throwing rocks?

(COMMENT)

The stage is where hostile Arab Palestinians, with a total disregard for safety and security, intentionally instigate events where by Palestinian civilians, including the use of children, in the West Bank and Gaza Strip (over the past three years) disruptions are escalating into deadly confrontations with near total impunity on the part of the Hostile Arab Palestinians. Some of these events are stage for no other reason than to create a media frenzy and sympathy media pieces featuring the propaganda story theme of the "poor and downtrodden Palestinians surfs heroically standing-up against a giant of the colonial empire that has subjugated the Palestinians for decades." The Arab Palestinians taunt and prod Israeli Security Forces for the purpose of manufacturing a body of evidence that shows a harrowing pattern of unlawful killings and unwarranted injuries of Palestinian civilians by Israeli forces in the West Bank. The repetitive format, frequency of the events, and persistence of arbitrary locations and abusive force used against usually outnumbered police and security personnel in the West Bank – and the impunity enjoyed by perpetrators – suggests that it is carried out as a matter of policy and developed strategy of the Ramallah Government.

While the Hostile Arab Palestinians are trying to play down the rock throwing and use of improvised incendiary devices as not as lethal as the response, this is again, only to elicit sympathy. Anyone who has suffered a serious burn injury can imaging what it might be like to be struck by a Palestinian Molotov Cocktail. And as everyone knows in the Middle East, the favorite erotic execution method by men on women is stoning.

The Israeli Police and Security Forces should be ready to use deadly force in such circumstances as:

• Defending themselves from deadly force used by Hostile Arab Palestinians.
• Defending a third person from deadly force used by Hostile Arab Palestinians.
• To make an arrest or prevent the escape from custody of a Hostile Arab Palestinians using deadly force.
• To make an arrest or prevent the escape of suspect felons believed to have committed or attempted to commit attacks that inflict or attempt to inflict grievous bodily harm or serious physical injury.
​

This is the very same standard that Police generally apply to Israeli citizens. And it is a very reasonable standard to use in the performance of their duties when the Police and Security forces are confronted with a set of conditions that place them at risk from grievous bodily harm or serious physical injury at the hands of Belligerent or Hostile Arab Palestinians (who are unable to productively contribute to the enhancement of their state).

Most Respectfully,
R

I think we will have to see how this plays out in practice because, to date, Beligerent or Hostile Jewish Settlers have not been shot have they?

 

[Coyote]

Any indication that the IDF intend to apply this new "shoot the rock throwers" policy to the Jewish settlers throwing rocks?

Why should they? Do they endanger the lives of Israeli citizens?

So you are confirming there are legal double standards here where Jewish settlers in Occupied Territory get nothing and Palestinians get shot? All for the exact same crime?

Not for the same crime at all, the crimes are different as chalk and cheese. The Palestinians are terrorists using terrorist methods and have declared as such to the UN. The Jews are defending against terrorist attack, want to see them start shooting Palestinians for trespassing on Jewish land ?

The Jewish Settlers are throwing stones at Palestinian civilians, including children causing injury. These civilians are not attacking or instigating. Some of them have shot at Palestinian civilians.

 

[Challenger]

Israeli Police adopted modern Western Law Enforcement Standards on the use of force.

When did they do that then?

 

[Challenger]

In Palestine they can say he tore a koran and they face summary execution

as well in Palestine summary execution can occur for playing dancing music

Let's see...

36 executions since 2012... I couldn't find a single execution for playing dance music!

117 executions since 2012 in the USA... Again, I couldn't find a single execution for playing dance music!

Who are the barbarians exactly?

What kind of comparison were you hoping to make with your phoney list?

You neglected to account for population density and per capita assessments. The population of Pal'istanians is about 4.4 million. The population of the US is about 320 million.

I'm not aware that the US government has heavily armed goon squads performing summary executions on city streets.

So yeah, who are the barbarians?

"I'm not aware that the US government has heavily armed goon squads performing summary executions on city streets." --Hollow Hollie

What is funny is you don't even realize that everything those cops were armed with are non-lethal or less lethal weapons. Also did you spot the woman in the group? The big nasty looking thing you used for your closeup is called ARWEN. A wonderful anti riot weapon that shoots tear gas and urethane baton rounds.

Below is a list of its ammunition. Challenger just loves himself a good picture but like most ignorant twerps he doesn't understand what he is seeing and is too lazy to investigate beyond what his masters tell him.

KO1 - Standard Impact Baton
KO2 - CS Smoke
KO3 - Irritant Impact Baton
KO4 - White & Colored Screening Smoke
BP5 - Irritant, Barricade Penetrating
KO6 - Irritant, Muzzle Blast
KO7 - Multi-Ball Area Impact
KO8 - Soft Tip Impact Baton
KO9 - Sub-caliber Training/Marking


ARWEN 37 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I know the Arwen 37, thank you, enough to know the cop in the picture isn't carrying one, although probably a similar weapon manufactured by someon else and I know what it can do. The U.S. National Institute of Justice revealed in a 2004 study, out of 373 instances in which officers fired 969 impact rounds at individuals, eight died. Two others were killed when officers meant to fire impact rounds but instead used other munitions, and 26 more died when nonlethal options failed to subdue them and officers turned to lethal rounds.

Another 782 of the impact rounds caused injuries of varying severity, about 10.8% of which were serious lacerations, broken bones or penetration wounds.

https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/nij/206089.pdf

You have to be properly trained to use these type of weapons; all non- or less-lethal weapons can kill if mis-used.

 

[Billo_Really]

Lying as always:

Billo_Really's Nuclear mass murders

What's the lie? You're the one who says I hate Jews.

You're doing everything you can to make this about me, because you don't have the balls to talk about Israeli atrocities.

 

[Phoenall]

Coyote, et al,

I believe that policy is already in place and has been in place since the Israeli Police adopted modern Western Law Enforcement Standards on the use of force.

All Israeli citizen (in Israel or the oPt --- makes no difference) are subject to Israel criminal law statutes, the Police Act of 1971, and the adoption of a fairly standard policy in the use of force by Law Enforcement personnel.

Any indication that the IDF intend to apply this new "shoot the rock throwers" policy to the Jewish settlers throwing rocks?

(COMMENT)

The stage is where hostile Arab Palestinians, with a total disregard for safety and security, intentionally instigate events where by Palestinian civilians, including the use of children, in the West Bank and Gaza Strip (over the past three years) disruptions are escalating into deadly confrontations with near total impunity on the part of the Hostile Arab Palestinians. Some of these events are stage for no other reason than to create a media frenzy and sympathy media pieces featuring the propaganda story theme of the "poor and downtrodden Palestinians surfs heroically standing-up against a giant of the colonial empire that has subjugated the Palestinians for decades." The Arab Palestinians taunt and prod Israeli Security Forces for the purpose of manufacturing a body of evidence that shows a harrowing pattern of unlawful killings and unwarranted injuries of Palestinian civilians by Israeli forces in the West Bank. The repetitive format, frequency of the events, and persistence of arbitrary locations and abusive force used against usually outnumbered police and security personnel in the West Bank – and the impunity enjoyed by perpetrators – suggests that it is carried out as a matter of policy and developed strategy of the Ramallah Government.

While the Hostile Arab Palestinians are trying to play down the rock throwing and use of improvised incendiary devices as not as lethal as the response, this is again, only to elicit sympathy. Anyone who has suffered a serious burn injury can imaging what it might be like to be struck by a Palestinian Molotov Cocktail. And as everyone knows in the Middle East, the favorite erotic execution method by men on women is stoning.

The Israeli Police and Security Forces should be ready to use deadly force in such circumstances as:

• Defending themselves from deadly force used by Hostile Arab Palestinians.
• Defending a third person from deadly force used by Hostile Arab Palestinians.
• To make an arrest or prevent the escape from custody of a Hostile Arab Palestinians using deadly force.
• To make an arrest or prevent the escape of suspect felons believed to have committed or attempted to commit attacks that inflict or attempt to inflict grievous bodily harm or serious physical injury.
​

This is the very same standard that Police generally apply to Israeli citizens. And it is a very reasonable standard to use in the performance of their duties when the Police and Security forces are confronted with a set of conditions that place them at risk from grievous bodily harm or serious physical injury at the hands of Belligerent or Hostile Arab Palestinians (who are unable to productively contribute to the enhancement of their state).

Most Respectfully,
R

I think we will have to see how this plays out in practice because, to date, Beligerent or Hostile Jewish Settlers have not been shot have they?

Are they throwing stones at the IDF or Jewish civilians in the occupied territories, if not then they wont be at least not until the Palestinians start shooting the terrorists firing illegal weapons at Israel

 

[Coyote]

Coyote, et al,

I believe that policy is already in place and has been in place since the Israeli Police adopted modern Western Law Enforcement Standards on the use of force.

All Israeli citizen (in Israel or the oPt --- makes no difference) are subject to Israel criminal law statutes, the Police Act of 1971, and the adoption of a fairly standard policy in the use of force by Law Enforcement personnel.

Any indication that the IDF intend to apply this new "shoot the rock throwers" policy to the Jewish settlers throwing rocks?

(COMMENT)

The stage is where hostile Arab Palestinians, with a total disregard for safety and security, intentionally instigate events where by Palestinian civilians, including the use of children, in the West Bank and Gaza Strip (over the past three years) disruptions are escalating into deadly confrontations with near total impunity on the part of the Hostile Arab Palestinians. Some of these events are stage for no other reason than to create a media frenzy and sympathy media pieces featuring the propaganda story theme of the "poor and downtrodden Palestinians surfs heroically standing-up against a giant of the colonial empire that has subjugated the Palestinians for decades." The Arab Palestinians taunt and prod Israeli Security Forces for the purpose of manufacturing a body of evidence that shows a harrowing pattern of unlawful killings and unwarranted injuries of Palestinian civilians by Israeli forces in the West Bank. The repetitive format, frequency of the events, and persistence of arbitrary locations and abusive force used against usually outnumbered police and security personnel in the West Bank – and the impunity enjoyed by perpetrators – suggests that it is carried out as a matter of policy and developed strategy of the Ramallah Government.

While the Hostile Arab Palestinians are trying to play down the rock throwing and use of improvised incendiary devices as not as lethal as the response, this is again, only to elicit sympathy. Anyone who has suffered a serious burn injury can imaging what it might be like to be struck by a Palestinian Molotov Cocktail. And as everyone knows in the Middle East, the favorite erotic execution method by men on women is stoning.

The Israeli Police and Security Forces should be ready to use deadly force in such circumstances as:

• Defending themselves from deadly force used by Hostile Arab Palestinians.
• Defending a third person from deadly force used by Hostile Arab Palestinians.
• To make an arrest or prevent the escape from custody of a Hostile Arab Palestinians using deadly force.
• To make an arrest or prevent the escape of suspect felons believed to have committed or attempted to commit attacks that inflict or attempt to inflict grievous bodily harm or serious physical injury.
​

This is the very same standard that Police generally apply to Israeli citizens. And it is a very reasonable standard to use in the performance of their duties when the Police and Security forces are confronted with a set of conditions that place them at risk from grievous bodily harm or serious physical injury at the hands of Belligerent or Hostile Arab Palestinians (who are unable to productively contribute to the enhancement of their state).

Most Respectfully,
R

I think we will have to see how this plays out in practice because, to date, Beligerent or Hostile Jewish Settlers have not been shot have they?

Are they throwing stones at the IDF or Jewish civilians in the occupied territories, if not then they wont be at least not until the Palestinians start shooting the terrorists firing illegal weapons at Israel

The Belligerant Jewish "Settlers" are stoning Palestinian civilians. Are you saying the law to shoot stoners on sight applies only to Palestinians?

 

[Phoenall]

Any indication that the IDF intend to apply this new "shoot the rock throwers" policy to the Jewish settlers throwing rocks?

Why should they? Do they endanger the lives of Israeli citizens?

So you are confirming there are legal double standards here where Jewish settlers in Occupied Territory get nothing and Palestinians get shot? All for the exact same crime?

Not for the same crime at all, the crimes are different as chalk and cheese. The Palestinians are terrorists using terrorist methods and have declared as such to the UN. The Jews are defending against terrorist attack, want to see them start shooting Palestinians for trespassing on Jewish land ?

The Jewish Settlers are throwing stones at Palestinian civilians, including children causing injury. These civilians are not attacking or instigating. Some of them have shot at Palestinian civilians.

Strange that as this was reported to be happening all over the occupied territories not that long ago, and since the Jews retaliated in kind the Palestinians have kicked up a fuss and got their stooges to tell the lies for them. This has been going on since 1948 when Israel was created as a nation under International law

 

[Coyote]

Any indication that the IDF intend to apply this new "shoot the rock throwers" policy to the Jewish settlers throwing rocks?

Why should they? Do they endanger the lives of Israeli citizens?

So you are confirming there are legal double standards here where Jewish settlers in Occupied Territory get nothing and Palestinians get shot? All for the exact same crime?

Not for the same crime at all, the crimes are different as chalk and cheese. The Palestinians are terrorists using terrorist methods and have declared as such to the UN. The Jews are defending against terrorist attack, want to see them start shooting Palestinians for trespassing on Jewish land ?

The Jewish Settlers are throwing stones at Palestinian civilians, including children causing injury. These civilians are not attacking or instigating. Some of them have shot at Palestinian civilians.

Strange that as this was reported to be happening all over the occupied territories not that long ago, and since the Jews retaliated in kind the Palestinians have kicked up a fuss and got their stooges to tell the lies for them. This has been going on since 1948 when Israel was created as a nation under International law

Yes, both sides are quite guilty yet only one gets shot for it - interesting no?

 

[fanger]

Soldiers stood idly by as masked settlers threw stones at Palestinians on the outskirts of the West Bank village of Oreef, charged the non-governmental group B’Tselem, which provided extensive video evidence on Wednesday of an event that occurred there two days earlier.

“The soldiers did nothing to stop them or distance them,” B’Tselem said in a statement to the press.

In the video B’Tselem provided four settler youth with cloth covering their face and some wearing religious fringed garments, known as tzizit, can be seen throwing stones at Palestinians, standing at some point, inches away from soldiers.

In the distance, on the video one can hear, the IDF shooting tear gas canisters. Another settler is standing speaking into what looks like a walki-talki.

At no point in the seven minute video do settlers appear concerned by the IDF presence
WATCH: IDF stands idly by as settlers throw stones at Palestinians

 

[Phoenall]

as well in Palestine summary execution can occur for playing dancing music

Let's see...

36 executions since 2012... I couldn't find a single execution for playing dance music!

117 executions since 2012 in the USA... Again, I couldn't find a single execution for playing dance music!

Who are the barbarians exactly?

What kind of comparison were you hoping to make with your phoney list?

You neglected to account for population density and per capita assessments. The population of Pal'istanians is about 4.4 million. The population of the US is about 320 million.

I'm not aware that the US government has heavily armed goon squads performing summary executions on city streets.

So yeah, who are the barbarians?

"I'm not aware that the US government has heavily armed goon squads performing summary executions on city streets." --Hollow Hollie

What is funny is you don't even realize that everything those cops were armed with are non-lethal or less lethal weapons. Also did you spot the woman in the group? The big nasty looking thing you used for your closeup is called ARWEN. A wonderful anti riot weapon that shoots tear gas and urethane baton rounds.

Below is a list of its ammunition. Challenger just loves himself a good picture but like most ignorant twerps he doesn't understand what he is seeing and is too lazy to investigate beyond what his masters tell him.

KO1 - Standard Impact Baton
KO2 - CS Smoke
KO3 - Irritant Impact Baton
KO4 - White & Colored Screening Smoke
BP5 - Irritant, Barricade Penetrating
KO6 - Irritant, Muzzle Blast
KO7 - Multi-Ball Area Impact
KO8 - Soft Tip Impact Baton
KO9 - Sub-caliber Training/Marking


ARWEN 37 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I know the Arwen 37, thank you, enough to know the cop in the picture isn't carrying one, although probably a similar weapon manufactured by someon else and I know what it can do. The U.S. National Institute of Justice revealed in a 2004 study, out of 373 instances in which officers fired 969 impact rounds at individuals, eight died. Two others were killed when officers meant to fire impact rounds but instead used other munitions, and 26 more died when nonlethal options failed to subdue them and officers turned to lethal rounds.

Another 782 of the impact rounds caused injuries of varying severity, about 10.8% of which were serious lacerations, broken bones or penetration wounds.

https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/nij/206089.pdf

You have to be properly trained to use these type of weapons; all non- or less-lethal weapons can kill if mis-used.

And would not be needed if the ones getting injured were not resorting to violence. There should be a shoot to kill policy with CCTV footage available showing those shot were attempting to maim of kill.

 

[Phoenall]

Lying as always:

Billo_Really's Nuclear mass murders

What's the lie? You're the one who says I hate Jews.

You're doing everything you can to make this about me, because you don't have the balls to talk about Israeli atrocities.

Are you now saying that you did not post these words ?

 

[fanger]

WATCH: Israeli police let stone-throwing settlers walk away


Israeli soldiers don’t arrest settlers. We know that. But what about Israeli police?

A couple of Jewish Israeli settlers were driving in the Israeli-controlled section of Hebron last week — where Palestinians live but only Israelis can drive — when some Palestinian youths threw stones at them, according to human rights organization B’Tselem.

The two settlers got out of their car, presumably to try and catch the stone throwers. But when they couldn’t catch them, they went after the easiest target they could find: the pair smashed a local market’s egg delivery and threw stones at parked Palestinian-owned cars, smashing their windshields, as can be seen in video provided by B’Tselem.

They were still throwing stones when Israeli police arrived. The police, army and settlement security officer, however, just let the two settlers walk to their car and drive off. The following is video shot by B’Tselem volunteers.
WATCH: Israeli police let stone-throwing settlers walk away | +972 Magazine

 

[fanger]

And would not be needed if the ones getting injured were not resorting to violence. There should be a shoot to kill policy with CCTV footage available showing those shot were attempting to maim of kill.

CCTV footage of the teenager executed by israeli police at check point is er "not available" but anyone who doubts the izzies word she had a knife are anti-semen nazi's, right?

 

[westwall]

as well in Palestine summary execution can occur for playing dancing music

Let's see...

36 executions since 2012... I couldn't find a single execution for playing dance music!

117 executions since 2012 in the USA... Again, I couldn't find a single execution for playing dance music!

Who are the barbarians exactly?

What kind of comparison were you hoping to make with your phoney list?

You neglected to account for population density and per capita assessments. The population of Pal'istanians is about 4.4 million. The population of the US is about 320 million.

I'm not aware that the US government has heavily armed goon squads performing summary executions on city streets.

So yeah, who are the barbarians?

"I'm not aware that the US government has heavily armed goon squads performing summary executions on city streets." --Hollow Hollie

What is funny is you don't even realize that everything those cops were armed with are non-lethal or less lethal weapons. Also did you spot the woman in the group? The big nasty looking thing you used for your closeup is called ARWEN. A wonderful anti riot weapon that shoots tear gas and urethane baton rounds.

Below is a list of its ammunition. Challenger just loves himself a good picture but like most ignorant twerps he doesn't understand what he is seeing and is too lazy to investigate beyond what his masters tell him.

KO1 - Standard Impact Baton
KO2 - CS Smoke
KO3 - Irritant Impact Baton
KO4 - White & Colored Screening Smoke
BP5 - Irritant, Barricade Penetrating
KO6 - Irritant, Muzzle Blast
KO7 - Multi-Ball Area Impact
KO8 - Soft Tip Impact Baton
KO9 - Sub-caliber Training/Marking


ARWEN 37 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I know the Arwen 37, thank you, enough to know the cop in the picture isn't carrying one, although probably a similar weapon manufactured by someon else and I know what it can do. The U.S. National Institute of Justice revealed in a 2004 study, out of 373 instances in which officers fired 969 impact rounds at individuals, eight died. Two others were killed when officers meant to fire impact rounds but instead used other munitions, and 26 more died when nonlethal options failed to subdue them and officers turned to lethal rounds.

Another 782 of the impact rounds caused injuries of varying severity, about 10.8% of which were serious lacerations, broken bones or penetration wounds.

https://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/nij/206089.pdf

You have to be properly trained to use these type of weapons; all non- or less-lethal weapons can kill if mis-used.

No, you didn't know it was ARWEN and yes the weapon pictured is indeed ARWEN (showing how little you truly know about them) and yes, people die when LESS LETHAL weapons are used improperly. Please note the terminology.

They ain't non lethal, they be less lethal. Means they shouldn't kill you if they're used properly, but used wrong and they can indeed kill you.

 

[RoccoR]

Coyote, et al,

Yes, this is correct. And the Israeli Police are making arrests where they can.

The Jewish Settlers are throwing stones at Palestinian civilians, including children causing injury. These civilians are not attacking or instigating. Some of them have shot at Palestinian civilians.

(COMMENT)

2015 Several Extremist Israeli Settlers Arrested
Monday August 24, 2015 by IMEMC News & Agencies

Haaretz Israeli newspaper, on Sunday, said that the Israeli army issued administrative orders against some 10 settlers living in West Bank settlements, and throughout Israel, over the past several days, as part of its "crackdown on Jewish extremism”.

Haaretz said, according to the PNN, that the orders range in severity from prohibitions against contacting specified individuals to being forced to leave the West Bank. They were issued upon the recommendation of the Shin Bet security service (Shabak) and signed by the chiefs of Israeli military.
​

2014 6 Israelis Held Over the Killing of Palestinian
6 July 2014 International New York Times By ISABEL KERSHNER

Confronting the possibility of rising retaliatory violence between Jews and Palestinians, the Israeli authorities arrested six Israelis on Sunday in the killing of a Palestinian teenager, found beaten and burned in a Jerusalem forest last week.
​

2013 Israeli settlers launch "price tag" attack in West Bank
English.news.cn 2013-05-01 Xinhua English News Outlet Editor: Zhu Ningzhu

As many as 15 settlers have been arrested since Tuesday morning for vandalism and attacking Palestinians, Israeli Police spokesman Mickey Rosenfeld told Xinhua.
The Israeli Army Radio reported that a few minutes after the stabbing incident, veiled settlers set fire to agriculture fields and threw stones at Palestinian cars.
​

2012 Settlers held as Israeli troops raze West Bank outpost
Thursday, 01 November 2012 al-Arabbiya News by AFP

Israeli security forces destroyed makeshift structures in a wildcat settlement outpost on Thursday, sparking protests which saw six Jewish settlers arrested, police and the army said.
“The army went to demolish two structures erected without permission near Yitzhar (settlement) and six people who demonstrated against it were arrested,” police spokesman Micky Rosenfeld said.
“Demonstrators threw stones at the soldiers, border police and police officers who were mobilized for this operation,” he added.
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2011 3 Israeli settlers arrested over attack on police car
From Michal Zippori, CNN, June 20, 2011

Three Israeli settlers from the West Bank were arrested overnight on suspicion of setting fire to a police commander's car, Israel police spokesman Micky Rosenfeld told CNN Monday.
The arrests follow a violent confrontation between settlers and police three weeks ago.
Israeli security forces tried June 2 to dismantle illegal buildings that were built at the Alei Ayin outpost in the West Bank.
Settlers, who are trying to expand Israeli presence in land the Palestinians also claim, resisted the Israeli security personnel.
Five settlers and six policemen were injured and the car of the police commander of the Binyamin region was torched.
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2010 Israeli settlers arrested over attack on mosque
ABC News Service Middle East correspondent Anne Barker 18 Jan 2010,

Israeli police have arrested several people from a radical Jewish settlement who are accused of an arson attack on a mosque last month in the West Bank.
Nine people were arrested at the Yitzhar settlement, which is known for its hardline stance against Palestinians.
All are suspected of attacks on Palestinian property.
Five are accused of involvement in the attack on a mosque, in which Muslim holy texts and prayer carpets were burned and Hebrew graffiti was sprayed on the floor.
Israeli authorities believe the attack was the work of Jewish extremists incensed at a government decision to slow the construction of new homes in Jewish settlements.
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I did go back and sample the news to see if that Israeli Police and Security Forces had been making arrests on Israeli Settlement extremists. And they have; albeit --- not to the extent of the enforcement level and attention as I would have thought. But they have been making an effort that has been slowly ratcheting up.


Most Respectfully,
R