New Mexico shut down nearly everything to keep hospitals from being overwhelmed by covid. It wasn't enough.

[Coyote]

Just playing devil's advocate because I do not know what the answer is, but there is no way to prove that if things weren't shut down it wouldn't be even worse.

The article said it has reduced numbers, but considering how Covid plays out there is a significant delay in getting the results you want. Remember NYC? Flattening the curve takes awhile, and people are going to ignore resrictions during Christmas.

I'm sorry New Mexico is going through this during the holidays.

Our state has been red. I did my weekly errands today and had to go to Walmart. Jam packed. Parking lot packed. No one paying any attention to social distancing and Walmart had gone right back to jamming up the middle of the aisles with merchandise.

Oh dear. You mean red as in Covid red zone? Walmart was so careful the first time! Even they have Precautions fatigue!

I know right? I was shocked. This spring and summer they hugely modified their stores and occupancy rates. Now you would never know.

 

[westwall]

I don't know how much more evidence these people need to come to the realization that closing everything down doesn't stop the spread of the virus. All it does it create indubitably more pain by inflicting economic scars on the populace on top of the illness. It's akin to using a nuclear bomb to kill a spider in your house.

New Mexico shut down nearly everything to keep hospitals from being overwhelmed by covid. It wasn't enough.

The governor had been sounding the alarm for more than a month. But by mid-November, it...

www.lmtonline.com

Ummmm. No amount will. It interferes with their totalitarian goals. Face it, the progressive left are the fascists as they show every day.

 

[westwall]

Just playing devil's advocate because I do not know what the answer is, but there is no way to prove that if things weren't shut down it wouldn't be even worse.

The article said it has reduced numbers, but considering how Covid plays out there is a significant delay in getting the results you want. Remember NYC? Flattening the curve takes awhile, and people are going to ignore resrictions during Christmas.

I'm sorry New Mexico is going through this during the holidays.

Our state has been red. I did my weekly errands today and had to go to Walmart. Jam packed. Parking lot packed. No one paying any attention to social distancing and Walmart had gone right back to jamming up the middle of the aisles with merchandise.

Oh dear. You mean red as in Covid red zone? Walmart was so careful the first time! Even they have Precautions fatigue!

I know right? I was shocked. This spring and summer they hugely modified their stores and occupancy rates. Now you would never know.

Formula One racing has been living in a bubble for the whole season. They travel from track to track, and stay there. Guess what, multiple people have contracted covid, including the World Champion.

Lockdowns only make the misery worse, and prolong the agony. That is simple science. But we all know the leftists don't do science for all that they claim to.

 

[Coyote]

Just playing devil's advocate because I do not know what the answer is, but there is no way to prove that if things weren't shut down it wouldn't be even worse.

The article said it has reduced numbers, but considering how Covid plays out there is a significant delay in getting the results you want. Remember NYC? Flattening the curve takes awhile, and people are going to ignore resrictions during Christmas.

I'm sorry New Mexico is going through this during the holidays.

Our state has been red. I did my weekly errands today and had to go to Walmart. Jam packed. Parking lot packed. No one paying any attention to social distancing and Walmart had gone right back to jamming up the middle of the aisles with merchandise.

Oh dear. You mean red as in Covid red zone? Walmart was so careful the first time! Even they have Precautions fatigue!

I know right? I was shocked. This spring and summer they hugely modified their stores and occupancy rates. Now you would never know.

Formula One racing has been living in a bubble for the whole season. They travel from track to track, and stay there. Guess what, multiple people have contracted covid, including the World Champion.

Lockdowns only make the misery worse, and prolong the agony. That is simple science. But we all know the leftists don't do science for all that they claim to.

I don't think it's simple science because you have far too many variables: density, economics, people's behavior in different areas, etc.

What do you think they did with polio outbreaks? Lockdowns. Same with the Spanish Flu, and it did help mitigate it some, but fatigue (and holidays) set in then as now.

 

[westwall]

Just playing devil's advocate because I do not know what the answer is, but there is no way to prove that if things weren't shut down it wouldn't be even worse.

The article said it has reduced numbers, but considering how Covid plays out there is a significant delay in getting the results you want. Remember NYC? Flattening the curve takes awhile, and people are going to ignore resrictions during Christmas.

I'm sorry New Mexico is going through this during the holidays.

Our state has been red. I did my weekly errands today and had to go to Walmart. Jam packed. Parking lot packed. No one paying any attention to social distancing and Walmart had gone right back to jamming up the middle of the aisles with merchandise.

Oh dear. You mean red as in Covid red zone? Walmart was so careful the first time! Even they have Precautions fatigue!

I know right? I was shocked. This spring and summer they hugely modified their stores and occupancy rates. Now you would never know.

Formula One racing has been living in a bubble for the whole season. They travel from track to track, and stay there. Guess what, multiple people have contracted covid, including the World Champion.

Lockdowns only make the misery worse, and prolong the agony. That is simple science. But we all know the leftists don't do science for all that they claim to.

I don't think it's simple science because you have far too many variables: density, economics, people's behavior in different areas, etc.

What do you think they did with polio outbreaks? Lockdowns. Same with the Spanish Flu, and it did help mitigate it some, but fatigue (and holidays) set in then as now.

They locked down the sick, not the healthy.

 

[Coyote]

Just playing devil's advocate because I do not know what the answer is, but there is no way to prove that if things weren't shut down it wouldn't be even worse.

The article said it has reduced numbers, but considering how Covid plays out there is a significant delay in getting the results you want. Remember NYC? Flattening the curve takes awhile, and people are going to ignore resrictions during Christmas.

I'm sorry New Mexico is going through this during the holidays.

Our state has been red. I did my weekly errands today and had to go to Walmart. Jam packed. Parking lot packed. No one paying any attention to social distancing and Walmart had gone right back to jamming up the middle of the aisles with merchandise.

Oh dear. You mean red as in Covid red zone? Walmart was so careful the first time! Even they have Precautions fatigue!

I know right? I was shocked. This spring and summer they hugely modified their stores and occupancy rates. Now you would never know.

Formula One racing has been living in a bubble for the whole season. They travel from track to track, and stay there. Guess what, multiple people have contracted covid, including the World Champion.

Lockdowns only make the misery worse, and prolong the agony. That is simple science. But we all know the leftists don't do science for all that they claim to.

I don't think it's simple science because you have far too many variables: density, economics, people's behavior in different areas, etc.

What do you think they did with polio outbreaks? Lockdowns. Same with the Spanish Flu, and it did help mitigate it some, but fatigue (and holidays) set in then as now.

They locked down the sick, not the healthy.

No, they locked down the healthy...I just read this interesting article - it's really a Dejas vous when you consider what is happening now in response to the pandemic.

'A breaking point': Anti-lockdown efforts during Spanish flu offer a cautionary tale for coronavirus

Opposition to public health directives forced some cities to roll back orders too quickly.

www.nbcnews.com

 

[westwall]

Just playing devil's advocate because I do not know what the answer is, but there is no way to prove that if things weren't shut down it wouldn't be even worse.

The article said it has reduced numbers, but considering how Covid plays out there is a significant delay in getting the results you want. Remember NYC? Flattening the curve takes awhile, and people are going to ignore resrictions during Christmas.

I'm sorry New Mexico is going through this during the holidays.

Our state has been red. I did my weekly errands today and had to go to Walmart. Jam packed. Parking lot packed. No one paying any attention to social distancing and Walmart had gone right back to jamming up the middle of the aisles with merchandise.

Oh dear. You mean red as in Covid red zone? Walmart was so careful the first time! Even they have Precautions fatigue!

I know right? I was shocked. This spring and summer they hugely modified their stores and occupancy rates. Now you would never know.

Formula One racing has been living in a bubble for the whole season. They travel from track to track, and stay there. Guess what, multiple people have contracted covid, including the World Champion.

Lockdowns only make the misery worse, and prolong the agony. That is simple science. But we all know the leftists don't do science for all that they claim to.

I don't think it's simple science because you have far too many variables: density, economics, people's behavior in different areas, etc.

What do you think they did with polio outbreaks? Lockdowns. Same with the Spanish Flu, and it did help mitigate it some, but fatigue (and holidays) set in then as now.

They locked down the sick, not the healthy.

No, they locked down the healthy...I just read this interesting article - it's really a Dejas vous when you consider what is happening now in response to the pandemic.

'A breaking point': Anti-lockdown efforts during Spanish flu offer a cautionary tale for coronavirus

Opposition to public health directives forced some cities to roll back orders too quickly.

www.nbcnews.com

Read the article again, they locked down, but rescinded within a few days. There were not months of lockdowns.

 

[Coyote]

Just playing devil's advocate because I do not know what the answer is, but there is no way to prove that if things weren't shut down it wouldn't be even worse.

The article said it has reduced numbers, but considering how Covid plays out there is a significant delay in getting the results you want. Remember NYC? Flattening the curve takes awhile, and people are going to ignore resrictions during Christmas.

I'm sorry New Mexico is going through this during the holidays.

Our state has been red. I did my weekly errands today and had to go to Walmart. Jam packed. Parking lot packed. No one paying any attention to social distancing and Walmart had gone right back to jamming up the middle of the aisles with merchandise.

Oh dear. You mean red as in Covid red zone? Walmart was so careful the first time! Even they have Precautions fatigue!

I know right? I was shocked. This spring and summer they hugely modified their stores and occupancy rates. Now you would never know.

Formula One racing has been living in a bubble for the whole season. They travel from track to track, and stay there. Guess what, multiple people have contracted covid, including the World Champion.

Lockdowns only make the misery worse, and prolong the agony. That is simple science. But we all know the leftists don't do science for all that they claim to.

I don't think it's simple science because you have far too many variables: density, economics, people's behavior in different areas, etc.

What do you think they did with polio outbreaks? Lockdowns. Same with the Spanish Flu, and it did help mitigate it some, but fatigue (and holidays) set in then as now.

They locked down the sick, not the healthy.

No, they locked down the healthy...I just read this interesting article - it's really a Dejas vous when you consider what is happening now in response to the pandemic.

'A breaking point': Anti-lockdown efforts during Spanish flu offer a cautionary tale for coronavirus

Opposition to public health directives forced some cities to roll back orders too quickly.

www.nbcnews.com

Read the article again, they locked down, but rescinded within a few days. There were not months of lockdowns.

The lockdown varied - for example Atlanta had it for 3 weeks.

We haven't had months of lockdowns for Covid - where municipalities have instituted them it seems to be mostly about two weeks for a total lockdown: COVID-19 pandemic lockdowns - Wikipedia

It's still economically devastating, I agree, and that happened in 1918 too.

 

[Gracie]

Nobody has to wear a mask around me and I am the old woman they seem so concerned about. And I won't wear a mask either. Why? For the same reason I won't wear a seat belt. My body, my choice. Isn't that the new phrase now? Or does it fall under the Rules For Thee But Not For Me section?
Hospital is right across the street from me. They are at full capacity. Helicopters in and out all day, transfering patients because there is no more room. Will I wear a mask now? Nope. Because they won't tell the public they are full because someone broke a finger, went to ER to have it set, was tested for china virus and came back as positive and now that person is NOT there for a broken pinky. Nope. They are there because they have COVID. And they have COVID because the powers that be give them more money and boy do they want that $$$$$$$.

Its all a crock of bullshit. Its a bad flu. Period. And destroying peoples livelihood, closing schools, depressed people committing suicide and a schmuck demanding we stay holed up isn't helping. May as well nuke us and be done with it. That should stop that nasty ol bug, right?

 

[iceberg]

If people would act responsibly, on their own, and use masks and social distance...maybe we wouldn't need to be shutting things down

Unless you are protesting or rioting.

 

[Gracie]

Meanwhile...today was busy road day. I am located between the hospital and a major highway west and east. North is downtown, south is 3 homeless shelters. All within a 3 minute walk if I chose to do so. No masks to be seen. Not even those going in and out of the ER.
Today was Toys For Tots delivery day I guess. I Stopped counting bikes on the highway at around 200. Then there was a small break, then came the police/chp escort for the following 250 or more bikes behind them. All crammed at the light that just happens to be right there on the corner. Helmets. No masks. So there on the east side of me were 450 people breathing. On the West side of me....helicopters, ambulances, gurneys, people in and out...none with masks.

Like I said. Bad flu. And crock of shit. But tomorrow is lockdown day. Sunday, noon. Stay inside, can only go out once a week. Fuck them. I'll go when I want to. Maskless. And no seat belt to boot. Double fuck you, says I.

 

[Yousaidwhat]

If people would act responsibly, on their own, and use masks and social distance...maybe we wouldn't need to be shutting things down

Like people do with sugar, carbs, fat, food, alcohol, drugs, tobacco, debt, the environment, and etcetera.?

BLASPHEMY!!!

 

[keepitreal]

Nobody has to wear a mask around me and I am the old woman they seem so concerned about. And I won't wear a mask either. Why? For the same reason I won't wear a seat belt. My body, my choice. Isn't that the new phrase now? Or does it fall under the Rules For Thee But Not For Me section?
Hospital is right across the street from me. They are at full capacity. Helicopters in and out all day, transfering patients because there is no more room. Will I wear a mask now? Nope. Because they won't tell the public they are full because someone broke a finger, went to ER to have it set, was tested for china virus and came back as positive and now that person is NOT there for a broken pinky. Nope. They are there because they have COVID. And they have COVID because the powers that be give them more money and boy do they want that $$$$$$$.

Its all a crock of bullshit. Its a bad flu. Period. And destroying peoples livelihood, closing schools, depressed people committing suicide and a schmuck demanding we stay holed up isn't helping. May as well nuke us and be done with it. That should stop that nasty ol bug, right?

The girl at work was venting the other day...her friends father just committed suicide
and they put covid related on his death certificate for cause of death...that's it....covid related

She said...if that was my father I would fight it

 

[Gracie]

Nobody has to wear a mask around me and I am the old woman they seem so concerned about. And I won't wear a mask either. Why? For the same reason I won't wear a seat belt. My body, my choice. Isn't that the new phrase now? Or does it fall under the Rules For Thee But Not For Me section?
Hospital is right across the street from me. They are at full capacity. Helicopters in and out all day, transfering patients because there is no more room. Will I wear a mask now? Nope. Because they won't tell the public they are full because someone broke a finger, went to ER to have it set, was tested for china virus and came back as positive and now that person is NOT there for a broken pinky. Nope. They are there because they have COVID. And they have COVID because the powers that be give them more money and boy do they want that $$$$$$$.

Its all a crock of bullshit. Its a bad flu. Period. And destroying peoples livelihood, closing schools, depressed people committing suicide and a schmuck demanding we stay holed up isn't helping. May as well nuke us and be done with it. That should stop that nasty ol bug, right?

The girl at work was venting the other day...her friends father just committed suicide
and they put covid related on his death certificate for cause of death...that's it....covid related

She said...if that was my father I would fight it

Can't fight it. Thems the roolz.

 

[keepitreal]

At 42 weeks, covid deaths average out to 133 deaths every week in every state
That averages out to 19 covid deaths every day in every state

Here in Illinois there are 102 counties and an estimated population of 12.9 million

That means, every week in Illinois, 71 counties each have 1 person that dies from covid
and 31 counties each have 2 people that dies from covid

1 person dies from covid in every county in Illinois every WEEK,
and 31 counties have 1 additional death every WEEK in Illinois

Every day, 1 person dies from covid in Illinois, FOR EVERY 5 COUNTIES

Lets go by Illinois numbers though

13,179 deaths in ALL OF ILLINOIS OVER THE PAST 10 MONTHS

THAT AVERAGES OUT TO 1,318 COVID DEATHS EVERY MONTH

THERE ARE 102 COUNTIES

THAT AVERAGES OUT TO 13 COVID DEATHS IN EVERY COUNTY, EVERY MONTH
THAT AVERAGES OUT TO 3 COVID DEATHS IN EVERY COUNTY, EVERY WEEK
THAT AVERAGES OUT TO 1 COVID DEATH IN EVERY COUNTY, EVERY OTHER DAY

THAT AVERAGES OUT TO FUCK OFF AND KISS MY ASS

 

[keepitreal]

And, what doesn't surprise me...

And this is California....

 

[westwall]

Just playing devil's advocate because I do not know what the answer is, but there is no way to prove that if things weren't shut down it wouldn't be even worse.

The article said it has reduced numbers, but considering how Covid plays out there is a significant delay in getting the results you want. Remember NYC? Flattening the curve takes awhile, and people are going to ignore resrictions during Christmas.

I'm sorry New Mexico is going through this during the holidays.

Our state has been red. I did my weekly errands today and had to go to Walmart. Jam packed. Parking lot packed. No one paying any attention to social distancing and Walmart had gone right back to jamming up the middle of the aisles with merchandise.

Oh dear. You mean red as in Covid red zone? Walmart was so careful the first time! Even they have Precautions fatigue!

I know right? I was shocked. This spring and summer they hugely modified their stores and occupancy rates. Now you would never know.

Formula One racing has been living in a bubble for the whole season. They travel from track to track, and stay there. Guess what, multiple people have contracted covid, including the World Champion.

Lockdowns only make the misery worse, and prolong the agony. That is simple science. But we all know the leftists don't do science for all that they claim to.

I don't think it's simple science because you have far too many variables: density, economics, people's behavior in different areas, etc.

What do you think they did with polio outbreaks? Lockdowns. Same with the Spanish Flu, and it did help mitigate it some, but fatigue (and holidays) set in then as now.

They locked down the sick, not the healthy.

No, they locked down the healthy...I just read this interesting article - it's really a Dejas vous when you consider what is happening now in response to the pandemic.

'A breaking point': Anti-lockdown efforts during Spanish flu offer a cautionary tale for coronavirus

Opposition to public health directives forced some cities to roll back orders too quickly.

www.nbcnews.com

Read the article again, they locked down, but rescinded within a few days. There were not months of lockdowns.

The lockdown varied - for example Atlanta had it for 3 weeks.

We haven't had months of lockdowns for Covid - where municipalities have instituted them it seems to be mostly about two weeks for a total lockdown: COVID-19 pandemic lockdowns - Wikipedia

It's still economically devastating, I agree, and that happened in 1918 too.

Yes, we have. Nevada was effectively shut down for two months. Big box stores were exempted, of course. So they did gangbusters while the small shops died on the vine. Talk about "super spreader" opportunities. Small shops were put out of business, but 1000 people could be in walmart.

So much for "science"

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Nobody has to wear a mask around me and I am the old woman they seem so concerned about. And I won't wear a mask either. Why? For the same reason I won't wear a seat belt. My body, my choice. Isn't that the new phrase now? Or does it fall under the Rules For Thee But Not For Me section?
Hospital is right across the street from me. They are at full capacity. Helicopters in and out all day, transfering patients because there is no more room. Will I wear a mask now? Nope. Because they won't tell the public they are full because someone broke a finger, went to ER to have it set, was tested for china virus and came back as positive and now that person is NOT there for a broken pinky. Nope. They are there because they have COVID. And they have COVID because the powers that be give them more money and boy do they want that $$$$$$$.

Its all a crock of bullshit. Its a bad flu. Period. And destroying peoples livelihood, closing schools, depressed people committing suicide and a schmuck demanding we stay holed up isn't helping. May as well nuke us and be done with it. That should stop that nasty ol bug, right?

Could not have said it better myself.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Just playing devil's advocate because I do not know what the answer is, but there is no way to prove that if things weren't shut down it wouldn't be even worse.

The article said it has reduced numbers, but considering how Covid plays out there is a significant delay in getting the results you ,want. Remember NYC? Flattening the curve takes awhile, and people are going to ignore resrictions during Christmas.

I'm sorry New Mexico is going through this during the holidays.

Our state has been red. I did my weekly errands today and had to go to Walmart. Jam packed. Parking lot packed. No one paying any attention to social distancing and Walmart had gone right back to jamming up the middle of the aisles with merchandise.

Oh dear. You mean red as in Covid red zone? Walmart was so careful the first time! Even they have Precautions fatigue!

I know right? I was shocked. This spring and summer they hugely modified their stores and occupancy rates. Now you would never know.

Formula One racing has been living in a bubble for the whole season. They travel from track to track, and stay there. Guess what, multiple people have contracted covid, including the World Champion.

Lockdowns only make the misery worse, and prolong the agony. That is simple science. But we all know the leftists don't do science for all that they claim to.

I don't think it's simple science because you have far too many variables: density, economics, people's behavior in different areas, etc.

What do you think they did with polio outbreaks? Lockdowns. Same with the Spanish Flu, and it did help mitigate it some, but fatigue (and holidays) set in then as now.

They locked down the sick, not the healthy.

No, they locked down the healthy...I just read this interesting article - it's really a Dejas vous when you consider what is happening now in response to the pandemic.

'A breaking point': Anti-lockdown efforts during Spanish flu offer a cautionary tale for coronavirus

Opposition to public health directives forced some cities to roll back orders too quickly.

www.nbcnews.com

Read the article again, they locked down, but rescinded within a few days. There were not months of lockdowns.

The lockdown varied - for example Atlanta had it for 3 weeks.

We haven't had months of lockdowns for Covid - where municipalities have instituted them it seems to be mostly about two weeks for a total lockdown: COVID-19 pandemic lockdowns - Wikipedia

It's still economically devastating, I agree, and that happened in 1918 too.

Yes, we have. Nevada was effectively shut down for two months. Big box stores were exempted, of course. So they did gangbusters while the small shops died on the vine. Talk about "super spreader" opportunities. Small shops were put out of business, but 1000 people could be in walmart.

So much for "science"

It seems too complicated for her pea brain to grasp that the government deems small businesses mom and pop shops places that can’t have more than five people or so in at a time but a place like corporate Walmart,gets to have everybody all come in. You are correct as well thst they did not lock down the healthy for more than a couple days,as always she gets her ass owned.lol

 

[iceberg]

Just playing devil's advocate because I do not know what the answer is, but there is no way to prove that if things weren't shut down it wouldn't be even worse.

The article said it has reduced numbers, but considering how Covid plays out there is a significant delay in getting the results you want. Remember NYC? Flattening the curve takes awhile, and people are going to ignore resrictions during Christmas.

I'm sorry New Mexico is going through this during the holidays.

Our state has been red. I did my weekly errands today and had to go to Walmart. Jam packed. Parking lot packed. No one paying any attention to social distancing and Walmart had gone right back to jamming up the middle of the aisles with merchandise.

Oh dear. You mean red as in Covid red zone? Walmart was so careful the first time! Even they have Precautions fatigue!

I know right? I was shocked. This spring and summer they hugely modified their stores and occupancy rates. Now you would never know.

Formula One racing has been living in a bubble for the whole season. They travel from track to track, and stay there. Guess what, multiple people have contracted covid, including the World Champion.

Lockdowns only make the misery worse, and prolong the agony. That is simple science. But we all know the leftists don't do science for all that they claim to.

I don't think it's simple science because you have far too many variables: density, economics, people's behavior in different areas, etc.

What do you think they did with polio outbreaks? Lockdowns. Same with the Spanish Flu, and it did help mitigate it some, but fatigue (and holidays) set in then as now.

They locked down the sick, not the healthy.

No, they locked down the healthy...I just read this interesting article - it's really a Dejas vous when you consider what is happening now in response to the pandemic.

'A breaking point': Anti-lockdown efforts during Spanish flu offer a cautionary tale for coronavirus

Opposition to public health directives forced some cities to roll back orders too quickly.

www.nbcnews.com

Read the article again, they locked down, but rescinded within a few days. There were not months of lockdowns.

The lockdown varied - for example Atlanta had it for 3 weeks.

We haven't had months of lockdowns for Covid - where municipalities have instituted them it seems to be mostly about two weeks for a total lockdown: COVID-19 pandemic lockdowns - Wikipedia

It's still economically devastating, I agree, and that happened in 1918 too.

Yes, we have. Nevada was effectively shut down for two months. Big box stores were exempted, of course. So they did gangbusters while the small shops died on the vine. Talk about "super spreader" opportunities. Small shops were put out of business, but 1000 people could be in walmart.

So much for "science"

If would be far less frustrating if people followed their own guidelines vs making excuses for one side only.