New: CBP Shoots and Kills Man in MN

[j-mac]

The CBP kept escalating and escalating and escalating.

Your argument reminds me of the fool that gets pulled over for a traffic violation, and tries to tell the police how this is going to go....It never ends well...

 

[Marener]

Your argument reminds me of the fool that gets pulled over for a traffic violation, and tries to tell the police how this is going to go....It never ends well...

Thats only your opinion when it’s people you hate being murdered.

CBP followed the women all the way across the street where he continued physically assaulting them, during which they just took the abuse. By the time he crossed the street to attack them, the excuse that they were “obstructing” is totally lost.

 

[Bitterhook]

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Executed.

You know your picture might be a shitload more believable if this guy actually had a head.

 

[Marener]

I have an open mind, but what I see, this doesn't comport to open mindedness, what you're really saying is agree with me or I'll denigrate, mock, and dismiss your argument...It's all very childish.

Ya know, there was a time where Democrats and Republican's disagreed with much, but on the essential things that made America safe, law abiding, and strong, Democrats, and Republican's agreed on.

Today, that doesn't seem to be the case...Democrats have decided that they'll sell out to the radical agenda of tearing this country down, in favor of some Marxist, Socialist agenda that they think will bring them eutopia.

Your position stated in this thread is that you don’t need to look at the video, you’re just going to wait for the result of the investigation, which is where the Trump administration is going to find out if the Trump administration did anything wrong.

And based on how heavily politicized the DoJ has become, the reliability of any investigation is basically out the window. We have documented cases of DHS just straight up lying, in court.

We agree that we are safer when ICE is removing dangerous criminals, which is what right wingers fall back on.

The problem is this is how ICE is going after people who have no criminal history and are routinely coming to their scheduled check in’s.

Stop pretending like this is about public safety. It’s not.

 

[Delldude]

They weren’t in his way. CBP went after her because he’s a thug who assaulted women.

They were ordered off the street to the sidewalk.

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

When they temporarily close off a road to make an arrest and you're strolling down the street and are told to get to the sidewalk, and you don't, you've just violated a lawful order and now are obstructing.

Closing off a road means no vehicle traffic and gives more reason for someone to go into the street because of no cars. It doesn't close the road to pedestrians. And Pretti was moving toward the sidewalk before trying to help that woman who got violently shoved by agents.

 

[j-mac]

Thats only your opinion when it’s people you hate being murdered.

CBP followed the women all the way across the street where he continued physically assaulting them, during which they just took the abuse. By the time he crossed the street to attack them, the excuse that they were “obstructing” is totally lost.

All we've seen is an approximate 2 minute clip. What was happening before that? After that? You don't know do you? Neither do I. Which is why I say wait for the investigation.

 

[Delldude]

It doesn't close the road to pedestrians.

Yes it does.
That's why they were ordered to the sidewalk.

 

[SweetSue92]

It’s remarkable watching you guys keep coming up with new angles to see what sticks.

It’s like watching the evolution of misinformation.

I already said he was wrongfully shot. And don't talk to me about misinformation if you even begin to equate this with German soldiers shooting people for no reason whatsoever. This guy INTERFERED with an active law enforcement activity.

 

[Marener]

All we've seen is an approximate 2 minute clip. What was happening before that? After that? You don't know do you? Neither do I. Which is why I say wait for the investigation.

And what exactly do you think could be relevant about what happened prior to your clip.

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

Instead, the guy committed at least three federal felonies.

1st felony: sniffling around federal agents
2nd: he didn't salute them
3rd: he didn't have a mask on

 

[Marener]

I already said he was wrongfully shot. And don't talk to me about misinformation if you even begin to equate this with German soldiers shooting people for no reason whatsoever. This guy INTERFERED with an active law enforcement activity.

Please explain exactly what you mean when you say he “interfered”. Exactly what did he do that interfered with CBP.

 

[XponentialChaos]

All we've seen is an approximate 2 minute clip. What was happening before that? After that? You don't know do you? Neither do I. Which is why I say wait for the investigation.

Are you going to believe anything they tell you?

 

[Marener]

Are you going to believe anything they tell you?

They already labeled him a terrorist so any investigation has to match that description.

 

[QuickHitCurepon]

Yes it does.
That's why they were ordered to the sidewalk.

So if a road is closed off, you can't walk in the street. If you believe that you are retarded. If they ordered him to the sidewalk then and only then does your comment apply.

 

[Delldude]

And what exactly do you think could be relevant about what happened prior to your clip.

Gee.....no chance it would show what lead up to the whole incident?

Guarantee you it is part of the investigation.

 

[Delldude]

So if a road is closed off, you can't walk in the street. If you believe that you are retarded. If they ordered him to the sidewalk then and only then your comment applies.

The street was closed off by ICE for an arrest.
That's why they were ordered to get to the sidewalk.

 

[Marener]

Gee.....no chance it would show what lead up to the whole incident?

Guarantee you it is part of the investigation.

Noem didn’t need any of that to determine Pretti was a domestic terrorist who wanted kill the federal agents.

 

[j-mac]

Your position stated in this thread is that you don’t need to look at the video, you’re just going to wait for the result of the investigation, which is where the Trump administration is going to find out if the Trump administration did anything wrong.

Yes, and no...I've seen the video many times now, and you can't tell shit from that....But, yes, I'm waiting for the investigation to see what the facts are, not what you're saying the facts are....Get it?

And based on how heavily politicized the DoJ has become, the reliability of any investigation is basically out the window. We have documented cases of DHS just straight up lying, in court.

Wait a minute, a year ago when we talked about the DoJ being politicized, y'all laughed, and laughed. You said that was ridiculous, and that couldn't happen because there were career people in the DoJ that had been there for decades. What's changed?

We agree that we are safer when ICE is removing dangerous criminals, which is what right wingers fall back on.

Then what in the holy **** is the problem here? Because you make it seem like EVERY illegal taken is some sort of Constitutional crisis....Many of these are child rapists, aggravated assault, robbery, murder, etc....And YOU are standing in ICE's way from removing them....

The problem is this is how ICE is going after people who have no criminal history and are routinely coming to their scheduled check in’s.

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Stop pretending like this is about public safety. It’s not.

1. The man taken from this house, If I recall, was a convicted criminal, and they had an order of removal...This wasn't a courthouse, or an Immigration check in site, or anything like that...So why are you using this pic? It doesn't make sense to your argument...That is IF you really agree that dangerous criminals should be removed...

2. None of this chaos would be happening if MN would work with DHS, and ICE to peacefully remove these people from the jails, and detention centers instead of rushing to let them loose as fast as possible back into the community where the State is setting up this chaos....

 

[M14 Shooter]

1st felony: sniffling around federal agents
2nd: he didn't salute them
3rd: he didn't have a mask on

Ah. You choose ignorance.
Try:
18 USC 73, 111, 118
Let me know if you need held figuirng out what that means.