New: CBP Shoots and Kills Man in MN

[airplanemechanic]

If even that. Often maybe a half a second. Giving people (especially crazy people acting in a threatening way) the benefit of the doubt, can get you killed.

And has. Many cops are pushing up daisies because they hesitated.

 

[WorldWatcher]

The cops have a second to make a decision; we have years to analyze it.

It was a good shoot. Attack LEO with a gun in your pants and you might wind up dead.

Except Alex Pretti didn't "attack" ICE agents.

He was videoing them with his phone.

NOTE TO SELF: Videoing ICE agents in public really pissed them off.

WW

 

[airplanemechanic]

Except Alex Pretti didn't "attack" ICE agents.

He was videoing them with his phone.

NOTE TO SELF: Videoing ICE agents in public really pissed them off.

WW

The video clearly shows him fighting with ICE agents. With a gun, up in their face and when told to back off, didn't.

FAFO.

 

[Ringo]

 

[airplanemechanic]

Why was he fighting the agents? WITH A GUN? Was he being cooperative? Peacefully protesting? NO AND NO.

FAFO.

 

[kyzr]

Except Alex Pretti didn't "attack" ICE agents.
He was videoing them with his phone.

True. But then Pretti got involved when ICE was pushing the two girls with whistles off the street, got caught up in the melee, got sprayed, got knocked down, I heard "gun, gun, gun" then "boom" x10.

NOTE TO SELF: Videoing ICE agents in public really pissed them off. WW

Actually it wasn't the videoing as much as carrying a concealed semi-auto 9mm up to them, with 2-clips and 20-rounds of ammo.
That was a fatal error.

 

[Deadstick]

Except, of course, that nowhere is it shown that he attacked ICE.
At all.
In fact, it is becoming increasingly clear that he was shot AFTER he was disarmed.

Witness video of CBP killing a Minnesota man contradicts Trump administration's narrative

Federal officials said Alex Pretti, 37, “brandished” a handgun at officers and intended to kill them. Videos show Pretti didn’t have a firearm in his hand before he was shot.

www.nbcnews.com

But at least five videos of the confrontation — recorded by eyewitnesses and verified and analyzed by NBC News — run counter to many of the administration’s statements. The videos show Pretti did not hold a weapon during the skirmish that began with him coming to the aid of a person pushed to the ground and ended with him on his knees, surrounded by agents. And the videos appear to show that a federal agent removed a gun from Pretti’s back holster just before he was shot.


Are you saying that the mere possession of a legal firearm is probable cause for the use of deadly force?

Because it ain't~

Problem with these fascists who try and justify this murder is they look at what happened with their own eyes but convince themselves they are looking at something totally different, first they shoot a woman who i believe was Lesbian so they justify that in their minds, and when they shoot a VA nurse another US citizen they justify that, if they can go with that they will go along with anything.

 

[airplanemechanic]

Problem with these fascists who try and justify this murder is they look at what happened with their own eyes but convince themselves they are looking at something totally different, first they shoot a woman who i believe was Lesbian so they justify that in their minds, and when they shoot a VA nurse another US citizen they justify that, if they can go with that they will go along with anything.

Attack LEO with a gun and get shot.

That's not murder.

Fuckstick.

 

[Deadstick]

Why was he fighting the agents? WITH A GUN? Was he being cooperative? Peacefully protesting? NO AND NO.

FAFO.

He was being assaulted by several of those goons after trying to aid two women who had been attacked by the goons.

 

[airplanemechanic]

He was being assaulted by several of those goons after trying to aid two women who had been attacked by the goons.

That would NOT be his job. They are LEO. You don't get to jump into a fight when LEO are taking someone down, or else you might get hurt. Badly. If you think they are doing something wrong, record it. But jumping in WHEN YOU HAVE A GUN, might get you shot.

So you are ADMITTING he was interfering with LEO. That's all I needed. He got what was coming to him. Assaulting LEO with a gun. Now he's dead.

FAFO.

 

[SaxonJackson]

The cops have a second to make a decision; we have years to analyze it.

It was a good shoot. Attack LEO with a gun in your pants and you might wind up dead.

LEO do NOT have to:

1. Wait until you touch your gun
2. Wait until you draw your gun
3. Wait until you aim your gun
4. Wait until you fire your gun.

They only have to feel threatened. And having an armed whackjob attack you is a threat. Any jury would say the same thing.

**** around, find out.

You have a right to peacefully protest. Go beyond that at your own risk.

Oh, and OP, learn how to spell. It's STABILIZED.

I'm a fan of Rittenhouse, by the way!

 

[Dr Grump]

It already happened. You guys celebrated when Ashli Babbit was killed. You said she deserved to die. You gave the cop that shot her a medal.

I never said she deserved to die. I never celebrated anything.
There was a difference though. She broke through glass and was heading upstairs.
The guy in Minneapolis was trying to help somebody up who had fallen over. I mean, I did see the video. So there is no mistaking it. At all. Well unless you're an idiot. Are you an idiot, god?

 

[airplanemechanic]

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I'm a fan of Rittenhouse, by the way!

Because Kyle was attacked. This guy wasn't attacked, HE WAS THE ATTACKER.

Are you really that stupid?

 

[Deadstick]

Attack LEO with a gun and get shot.

That's not murder.

Fuckstick.

Like i said you people see something different from what actually happened, at no point did he brandish or even unholster a gun, he had a license to carry under your own gun laws, this is how Fascism creeps into your society.

 

[odanny]

The video clearly shows him fighting with ICE agents. With a gun, up in their face and when told to back off, didn't.

FAFO.

Liar.

 

[airplanemechanic]

Like i said you people see something different from what actually happened, at no point did he brandish or even unholster a gun, he had a license to carry under your own gun laws, this is how Fascism creeps into your society.

Having a license to carry DOES NOT MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE. If you jump on LEO while they are effectuating an arrest, and are armed, YOU WILL BE SHOT. In fact, having a license to carry means you have to disclose to ANY LEO you come into contact with that you are carrying a gun. So he violated the law right there.

See, I have a license to carry, I know the laws. You don't, fuckstick.

 

[Dr Grump]

Oh please. Godwin Rule says you go to the penalty box.

Homeboy made a mistake. He obstructed federal law enforcement. That's why he was in the middle of the street.

He wasn't "harmless", he was aiding and abetting a criminal fugitive.

Some people have a real problem with authority. How it works around here is, We the People make the law. Any law that's on the books right now, was put there by the People. The People are the ONLY ones who can make law in this country, the President can't do it and the Judges can't do it. (They try anyway, but that's beside the point).

So if you want to change the law, we have ways of doing that. Until then though, the law has to be enforced. We can't have people like Biden running around violating the law just because they don't like it. It's bad for families, bad for children. Bad for stability, bad for business.

Meh. He was trying to help her up. I'm not even sure she was under arrest. Doesn't look like she was. I've seen the video. Looks like the tough ICE officer just pushed her to get away. In my experience, when arresting people you usually grab them, turn them around, handcuff them, and then lead them away.

Also, the guy didn't brandish his firearm. All he did was try and help her up. Then the poorly trained, inciting ICE moron had a crack at him too. Disgrace to all law enforcement. I mean Pretti had his back to the officer as he was trying to help her up. He was trying to keep the rabid LEO away from her. Police are taught to deescalate. The rubes running the US don't know the meaning of the word.

 

[Deadstick]

That would NOT be his job. They are LEO. You don't get to jump into a fight when LEO are taking someone down, or else you might get hurt. Badly. If you think they are doing something wrong, record it. But jumping in WHEN YOU HAVE A GUN, might get you shot.

So you are ADMITTING he was interfering with LEO. That's all I needed. He got what was coming to him. Assaulting LEO with a gun. Now he's dead.

FAFO.

He didn't jump in he was recording the assault on the two Women when the ice goons pushed him to the ground and beat him, then after taking the gun from it's holster put ten rounds into his back.

 

[kyzr]

He was being assaulted by several of those goons after trying to aid two women who had been attacked by the goons.

DOJ deputy AG Todd Blanche was on MTP yesterday and placed much of the blame for the violence in MN on trhe governor and mayor who rile up radical agitators to interfere with ICE agents lawfully doing their jobs arresting violent illegals. In TX ICE arrests 10x the number of criminals than in MN without incident. If MN cooperated with ICE to enforce Federal Law no one would be injured. But since MN has paid agitators who interfere with ICE and some people make bad/dangerous choices, like trying to run over an ICE agent, or to carry a gun up to ICE agents, people needlessly die.

 

[Deadstick]

Having a license to carry DOES NOT MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE. If you jump on LEO while they are effectuating an arrest, and are armed, YOU WILL BE SHOT. In fact, having a license to carry means you have to disclose to ANY LEO you come into contact with that you are carrying a gun. So he violated the law right there.

See, I have a license to carry, I know the laws. You don't, fuckstick.

So does your NRA and they have called it out.