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These neocon sellouts care only about business, their own power, and selling out as quickly as possible.

Did you guys notice how doing something about the border was something they waited till the very end to attempt? And somehow they just didn't get the funding in place before the elections. And now they're out of power. But they were behind the fence, really. They just ran out of time.

Countries exist for the benefit of their citizenry. Our biggest export now is our own opportunity. Legislatures should not be abolishing borders in the name of economic growth.
 

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These neocon sellouts care only about business, their own power, and selling out as quickly as possible.

Did you guys notice how doing something about the border was something they waited till the very end to attempt? And somehow they just didn't get the funding in place before the elections. And now they're out of power. But they were behind the fence, really. They just ran out of time.

Countries exist for the benefit of their citizenry. Our biggest export now is our own opportunity. Legislatures should not be abolishing borders in the name of economic growth.


You are such a bright ray of sunstroke
 

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Which is exactly why morons like you voted against the Republicans in favor of border security. How nice of you.
 
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Which is exactly why morons like you voted against the Republicans in favor of border security. How nice of you.
Oh what. They were just getting ready to do something, right? Oh look at the time. Oops. Preposterous.
 

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Oh what. They were just getting ready to do something, right? Oh look at the time. Oops. Preposterous.
No you flipping idiot. You idiot voted out the Conservatives who WERE fighting for what we wanted. And you left in the Republicans who were screwing us over. What part of that is so difficult to understand. You didnt hurt the Republicans. They are just going to bend over and be nice to the Democrats like they always do. But you have hurt conservatives by freaking voting the actual conservatives out.

You people dont seem to understand this. You haven't punished Republicans at all. You punished conservatives. You just told the liberal Republicans: "Go on and continue the way you are acting"

And why? Because of your supreme arrogance and your refusal to actually look at who you were voting for. No, you had to say "Let's screw the Republicans, who cares if they are the Republicans who are actually fighting for what we want.
 

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No you flipping idiot. You idiot voted out the Conservatives who WERE fighting for what we wanted. And you left in the Republicans who were screwing us over. What part of that is so difficult to understand. You didnt hurt the Republicans. They are just going to bend over and be nice to the Democrats like they always do. But you have hurt conservatives by freaking voting the actual conservatives out.

You people dont seem to understand this. You haven't punished Republicans at all. You punished conservatives. You just told the liberal Republicans: "Go on and continue the way you are acting"

And why? Because of your supreme arrogance and your refusal to actually look at who you were voting for. No, you had to say "Let's screw the Republicans, who cares if they are the Republicans who are actually fighting for what we want.
I understand your anger, Avatar. But, look at it this way: both majorities are gone, regardless of what happens in Montana and Virginia; the Independents are Liebermann and a self-described SOCIALIST, for God's sake. And don't forget the Arlen Specter factor - how that guy rates an R after his name is beyond me. What I'm saying is that House conservatives didn't get singled out for punishment - they got caught in the gears. There's a war on; these poor guys were collateral damage.
 
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No you flipping idiot. You idiot voted out the Conservatives who WERE fighting for what we wanted. And you left in the Republicans who were screwing us over. What part of that is so difficult to understand. You didnt hurt the Republicans. They are just going to bend over and be nice to the Democrats like they always do. But you have hurt conservatives by freaking voting the actual conservatives out.
Hey. was Bush kidding when he called the minutemen vigilantes?

You know who has better trade policy than the neocon sellouts? Lou Fucking DObbs. I hate to say. But it's true. He's the only one telling the truth. This is a wageless recovery. It's global corporations making money off illegal labor. These republicans deserved everything they got. I hope bush goes to hell for his lies. He knew nothing about the port deal, except that it was all perfectly safe. LOL. Look who you're following. A clown. You can call me names and dismiss me, or you could study the peculiarly america-neutral vision of foreign policy the neocon kabal espouses, and how it made them lose.
You people dont seem to understand this. You haven't punished Republicans at all. You punished conservatives. You just told the liberal Republicans: "Go on and continue the way you are acting"

And why? Because of your supreme arrogance and your refusal to actually look at who you were voting for. No, you had to say "Let's screw the Republicans, who cares if they are the Republicans who are actually fighting for what we want.

Don't "you people" me. The Republicans badly need a course a correction. And avatar, this always happens at this point in a presidency.
 

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Ok, first off, the Republicans needed a wake-up call. I regret that it came at this price, but the Republicans have practically been trying to lose. They abandoned their conservative base. They often sided with Democrats on their ultra-leftist issues. The Republicans needed to remember why they won in 1994 and who they owe that victory to.

Second off, RWA, using the word 'neocon' tells most people that you have a weak argument. I know you, personally, know what that word actually means and you're using it correctly, but use with caution.
 

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Hey. was Bush kidding when he called the minutemen vigilantes?

You know who has better trade policy than the neocon sellouts? Lou Fucking DObbs. I hate to say. But it's true. He's the only one telling the truth. This is a wageless recovery. It's global corporations making money off illegal labor. These republicans deserved everything they got. I hope bush goes to hell for his lies. He knew nothing about the port deal, except that it was all perfectly safe. LOL. Look who you're following. A clown. You can call me names and dismiss me, or you could study the peculiarly america-neutral vision of foreign policy the neocon kabal espouses, and how it made them lose.



Don't "you people" me. The Republicans badly need a course a correction. And avatar, this always happens at this point in a presidency.
This is exactly what im talking about. You think you've just punished President Bush. You havent. You've just given him what he wants in immigration and screwed alot of conservatives who were keeping it from happening just so you can say "Haha Bush you need to listen to us" why the heck is he going to listen to you when you just eliminated the one obstacle to him? How does it help the conservative movement to screw conservatives who are helping us?

Wake up. We know you hate jews for some stupid reason. But you just played right into the hands of the people you seem to hate so much and you are too stupid to even realize it.

Republicans do need correction, Thats what primaries are for. Thats why you need to target the problem Republicans and not just screw the good ones while keeping the bad ones in office.

You've rewarded the liberal Democrats and the liberal republicans and you seem to think you are correcting the problem. But you arent. your screwing us all over. Now rather than fix alittle here and there we have to rebuild completely.
 
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This is exactly what im talking about. You think you've just punished President Bush. You havent. You've just given him what he wants in immigration and screwed alot of conservatives who were keeping it from happening just so you can say "Haha Bush you need to listen to us" why the heck is he going to listen to you when you just eliminated the one obstacle to him? How does it help the conservative movement to screw conservatives who are helping us?

Wake up. We know you hate jews for some stupid reason. But you just played right into the hands of the people you seem to hate so much and you are too stupid to even realize it.

Republicans do need correction, Thats what primaries are for. Thats why you need to target the problem Republicans and not just screw the good ones while keeping the bad ones in office.

You've rewarded the liberal Democrats and the liberal republicans and you seem to think you are correcting the problem. But you arent. your screwing us all over. Now rather than fix alittle here and there we have to rebuild completely.

Hey. Lou dobbs is making more sense than bush. Can you explain why?
 

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Now rather than fix alittle here and there we have to rebuild completely.
Ah, but if the true conservative Republicans are as wide-awake as I think they are, we can do it RIGHT this time. It'll be a short, temporary fall, and a roaring comeback.

This isn't anything new, Avatar. The Bushes are merely the heirs of Rockefeller Republicanism - a cynical force for globalism that finds paying lip service to conservatives a convenient means to its own greedy ends. Our party has been infected for a long time. This war has been coming for forty years or more. I, for one, welcome it.
 

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This is exactly what im talking about. You think you've just punished President Bush. You havent. You've just given him what he wants in immigration and screwed alot of conservatives who were keeping it from happening just so you can say "Haha Bush you need to listen to us" why the heck is he going to listen to you when you just eliminated the one obstacle to him? How does it help the conservative movement to screw conservatives who are helping us?
You're assuming that there are conservatives in office that are helping us. They we're in a position of power to do some real good, instead they squandered it.


Republicans do need correction, Thats what primaries are for. Thats why you need to target the problem Republicans and not just screw the good ones while keeping the bad ones in office.
Unfortunately its nearly impossible for another politician to dethrown an incumbant of his own party.

You've rewarded the liberal Democrats and the liberal republicans and you seem to think you are correcting the problem. But you arent. your screwing us all over. Now rather than fix alittle here and there we have to rebuild completely.
Sometimes its better to just burn the house down and rebuild than to add to a pile of steaming shit.
 

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Moderate Republicans may have helped the GOP get a congressional majority, but they also adversely affected the GOP in this election. They are just as much spenders, as any democrat.

This elections was truly a message to the GOP, not message to/for the democrats.

The American people had high expectations with the Newt G. "thing", and what do we have for all of this? Yes, some lower taxes..........and then what?

I still think that we should have invaded Iraq, but there was some mis-handling of it up to now. I truly believe that the U.S. should have immediately divided Iraq up into three distinct states within the nation: A Kurdish state, a Sunni State, and a Southern State that included Bagdad.

I voted a straight Repub. ticket yesterday, but deep down in my "gut" I felt that this was truly going to be a wake-up call to the GOP, that they have drifted too much to the center. I'd rather that the GOP be stomped in an election because they were conservative, than be stomped for losing their moorings, or principles.

Notice one big difference from the previous elections. You won't see or hear of Conservative voters both prominent and non-prominent, running to their psychiatrists, or relinquishing their U.S. citizenship in mass as happened after Sen. Kerry's defeat in 04 with liberal/demo voters/backers.
 

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Seems to me that we're probably going to see the Republican party shift to the center. Despite what you all are saying, a lot of Republicans in the House pushed some very conservative measures (border fence, English as the official language, flag burning, etc.) and now a lot of these politicians are gone. I'd expect to see more people like Gulliani (the closest thing either party has to a real libertarian) and McCain in the coming elections. Then again, right now we might actually see the Republican party in the House shift to the right. A lot of the more moderate Republicans like Chris Shays and company were voted out in favor of conservative democrats. The remaining Republicans are likely to be closer to conservative values. Unfortunately for them, without control of either House they're not going to get anything done, and come 08 I bet we'll see a resurgence of moderate Republicans.
 

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These neocon sellouts care only about business, their own power, and selling out as quickly as possible.

Did you guys notice how doing something about the border was something they waited till the very end to attempt? And somehow they just didn't get the funding in place before the elections. And now they're out of power. But they were behind the fence, really. They just ran out of time.

Countries exist for the benefit of their citizenry. Our biggest export now is our own opportunity. Legislatures should not be abolishing borders in the name of economic growth.
A big reason some Dems won in Texas is because of the Trans Texas Corridor, where the neocons have indeed sold us out. The SA Toll Party got some of their top endorsements elected, Nathan Macias(R) for district 73, Joe Farias(D) for district 118 and David Leibowitz(D) for district 118. Gov. Perry(R, incumbent) won the governorship but did so with less than 40% of the vote because of the Anti-toll movement (Strayhorn).
The SA Toll Party is fighting against this double-taxation, land grabbing monster that they will NOT put on a ballot for us to vote on for ourselves.
 

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