Neo-Communists, Answer Me This

[Titanic Sailor]

What's changed? Does an increase in the level of corruption, government spending, extremely poor bills, pork spending, unemployment, foreclosures, and poverty constitute the change you wanted?



Gee, thanks from an American.

 

[Sinatra]

What's changed? Does an increase in the level of corruption, government spending, extremely poor bills, pork spending, unemployment, foreclosures, and poverty constitute the change you wanted?



Gee, thanks from an American.

 

[Xenophon]

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

What's changed? Does an increase in the level of corruption

Same level of corruption. No more, no less.

government spending

Same level of spending, just on different things.

extremely poor bills

Same as before. No change here either

pork spending

Same as before.

unemployment, foreclosures, and poverty

It's getting better

constitute the change you wanted?

I didn't expect, or really want change. I expected more of the same, slightly closer to my own views, and that's exactly what I got.

Gee, thanks from an American.

You're welcome.

You guys are going to have to come up with new rhetoric. In one thread all the Cons talk about how Obama is the same as Bush, and then in other threads all the Cons talk about how Obama is the most far-left liberal ever.

You can't have it both ways.

I voted for Obama, and I didn't expect radical change - I expected exactly what we got. A more-to-the-left version of the status quo. I think that you'll find a vast majority of people who voted for Obama didn't expect radical change either. I think most everyone who voted for Obama expected exactly what they're getting. Maybe we didn't expect such partisanship from the Republicans, but we really should have.

 

[DiamondDave]

Uhh.. spending is MORE... unemployment and the economy are not getting any better from the spending and policies of this administration and DEM controlled congress

But the rest I would not go out of my way to disagree with

 

[Sinatra]

Uhh.. spending is MORE... unemployment and the economy are not getting any better from the spending and policies of this administration and DEM controlled congress

But the rest I would not go out of my way to disagree with

Agreed - the degree of spending, the move to greatly enhance the size and scope of the federal government...they have taken some of the worst aspects of Bush Inc. and doubled down on them to a degree unseen by almost all Americans living today...

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Uhh.. spending is MORE... unemployment and the economy are not getting any better from the spending and policies of this administration and DEM controlled congress

But the rest I would not go out of my way to disagree with

Yes, Obama's budgets and future plans include more spending than Bush, and those before. But that money hasn't been spent yet. In terms of money spent so far, Obama has not spent more than Bush, or any other president before.

And I don't give the government super-powers - Obama didn't cause this recession, (and no, I'm not going to blame it on Bush either). The current unemployment rate, economy, etc, were caused by many factors, and Obama's stimulus plans that haven't even gone into effect yet haven't changed anything. Overall, the trend says that the economy is getting back on its feet - whether that is because of anything Obama did, I'll leave that to the economists.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Uhh.. spending is MORE... unemployment and the economy are not getting any better from the spending and policies of this administration and DEM controlled congress

But the rest I would not go out of my way to disagree with

Agreed - the degree of spending, the move to greatly enhance the size and scope of the federal government...they have taken some of the worst aspects of Bush Inc. and doubled down on them to a degree unseen by almost all Americans living today...

How has Obama expanded the size and scope of the federal government? Don't say healthcare, that hasn't happened yet. Don't say C&T either, that also hasn't happened yet.

What has Obama done so far to "greatly enhance the size and scope of the federal government"?

 

[Sinatra]

Uhh.. spending is MORE... unemployment and the economy are not getting any better from the spending and policies of this administration and DEM controlled congress

But the rest I would not go out of my way to disagree with

Agreed - the degree of spending, the move to greatly enhance the size and scope of the federal government...they have taken some of the worst aspects of Bush Inc. and doubled down on them to a degree unseen by almost all Americans living today...

How has Obama expanded the size and scope of the federal government? Don't say healthcare, that hasn't happened yet. Don't say C&T either, that also hasn't happened yet.

What has Obama done so far to "greatly enhance the size and scope of the federal government"?

 

[Dr Grump]

What has Obama done so far to "greatly enhance the size and scope of the federal government"?

[/QUOTE]

That line at the end was due to Tarp - on Bush's watch. Try again...

 

[Sinatra]

What has Obama done so far to "greatly enhance the size and scope of the federal government"?

That line at the end was due to Tarp - on Bush's watch. Try again...[/QUOTE]


Record Shows Obama Was on Board With TARP in September, and Every Bit As Socialist As He Claims Bush Was


...That's great, except for one "little" thing: John Kerry, clearly speaking for the Obama campaign, told Chris Wallace on Fox News on September 28 of last year (HT to BizzyBlog commenter Joe C) that at the time of the first TARP deal that the bailout followed his template:

..... the four principal components of this deal, Chris, represent the exact four principles that Senator Obama laid out two weeks ago. They represent the exact principles that we put forward and almost agreed on last Thursday before politics entered into this.

Record Shows Obama Was on Board With TARP in September, and Every Bit As Socialist As He Claims Bush Was | NewsBusters.org


Next Time the Obama Administration blames TARP on Bush....

Remember this:


Senator Obama voted for TARP
Ben Bernanke, Tim Geithner, and Henry Paulson wrote it
Obama appointed


The Clue Batting Cage: Next Time the Obama Administration blames TARP on Bush....

 

[LuckyDan]

I voted for Obama, and I didn't expect radical change - I expected exactly what we got. A more-to-the-left version of the status quo. I think that you'll find a vast majority of people who voted for Obama didn't expect radical change either. I think most everyone who voted for Obama expected exactly what they're getting. Maybe we didn't expect such partisanship from the Republicans, but we really should have.

Poised to pass the most expensive piece of legislation ever is a more-to-the-left vesion of the status quo?

Let me guess. You expected Republicans to bend over and grab their ankles.

 

[Sinatra]

I voted for Obama, and I didn't expect radical change - I expected exactly what we got. A more-to-the-left version of the status quo. I think that you'll find a vast majority of people who voted for Obama didn't expect radical change either. I think most everyone who voted for Obama expected exactly what they're getting. Maybe we didn't expect such partisanship from the Republicans, but we really should have.

Poised to pass the most expensive piece of legislation ever is a more-to-the-left vesion of the status quo?

Let me guess. You expected Republicans to bend over and grab their ankles.

That would be the Barney Frank wing of the Democrat Party...

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Agreed - the degree of spending, the move to greatly enhance the size and scope of the federal government...they have taken some of the worst aspects of Bush Inc. and doubled down on them to a degree unseen by almost all Americans living today...

How has Obama expanded the size and scope of the federal government? Don't say healthcare, that hasn't happened yet. Don't say C&T either, that also hasn't happened yet.

What has Obama done so far to "greatly enhance the size and scope of the federal government"?

This is a spending chart. We've already been over the spending. I know Obama is doing lots of it. But talk to me more about this "size and scope" issue. In what way has Obama expanded the "scope" of government?

 

[California Girl]

Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

Yep. "Difference color, same old shit."

 

[Titanic Sailor]

Owebama polling is dropping, which is an indication Democrats are abandoning ship too ...............

 

[Luissa]

What's changed? Does an increase in the level of corruption, government spending, extremely poor bills, pork spending, unemployment, foreclosures, and poverty constitute the change you wanted?



Gee, thanks from an American.

Don't think there are any Neo Communists on this board, but good luck getting any answer.

 

[Claudette]

Its the same old same old. The only difference is the lefty agenda. They all suck.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

Owebama polling is dropping, which is an indication Democrats are abandoning ship too ...............

Except that it's really not dropping. It's been within the margin of error for the last 6 months or so - hanging pretty steady at around 50%. I know this is the favorite piece of rhetoric for "conservatives" - but it's not true. Obama's poll numbers are both 1.) pretty steady at around 50% and 2.) about the same as the last 4 presidents (excluding Bush II) at this time during their presidency.

There's no deeper meaning to Obama's poll numbers - you're just seeing what you want to see.

 

[Titanic Sailor]

and Scott Brown means ewe are seeing what ewe want to see..............