NC has responded to the Feds

[Pop23]

refuting your bullshit ,,,

Well then, you might want to try something that isn't so 100% consistent with my "bullshit."

You know, I'm a little disappointed. You're one of the more level headed people around here. I would think you would respect me enough to distinguish between my bullshit that I feed the morons, and times when you and I have an honest difference of opinion.

Don't get me wrong, if you like pie, you know I can serve it up. I just thought of you as more of a chicken and rice type.

my disagreement with you is an honest one.
your" bullshit"is no refutation of an actual science and to call it a pseudo science puts it in the same league as phrenolgy pyramid power crystal power etc,

No, but I think you need to reevaluate your assumptions and biases. Calling psychology pseudoscience does not mean that I reject its value as an academic field of study. There are many legitimate fields of study which are not science. The over use of the word "science" cheapens scientific knowledge, and has led to all kinds of wild ass ideas. Creationism "science," for example.

Declaring that a Man is "functioning" as a woman is beyond the scope of science, it is impossible. To function as a woman, you would have to have the EXPERIENSES that a woman has.

Call us when a man has a period.

 

[SwimExpert]

Do you also think depression is just a subjective feeling?

Before bothering to venture down that road, I suggest that you shift your assumptions about me.

I have no assumptions about you other than you seem too rational to be a Republican.

Do you think depression is just a subjective feeling? I always wonder why "conservatives" think feelings are so unimportant. We wouldn't be human without them.

There are many types of conservatives. Unfortunately, the most common type in recent times is the batshit crazy fake conservative.

I always wonder why liberals think feelings are so supremely important. We wouldn't be human if we couldn't put them to the back burner.

 

[Seawytch]

an attempt to
understand.

Understanding is overrated. That's what we have politics for.

In any event, I think this is a good time to re-assert my hypothesis about what which is called transgenderism.

The concept of transgenderism is built upon the notion that men and women have different human identities. It requires a belief that there are fundamental differences between men and women that to beyond superficial accident of their birth. There is, of course, no doubt that there are superficial differences between women, having to do with the dimorphic construction of their bodies. And there can be no doubt that there are an assortment of differences between the two classes, and commonalities within each respective class, that would seem to go beyond the mere accident of birth. But none of that amounts to anything that rightly indicates or implies any non-superficial difference between men and women.

Ultimately, the search for non-superficial differences between men and women continues to be a complete failure. Every attempt to identify such differences always turns out to be pure sexism, and often times is quite homophobic. And the notions which people express as their reasons for "feeling like the wrong gender" are similarly so. These all range from notions masculine strength vs feminine gentleness, sexist beliefs in gender specific interests, sexist conceptions of different academic capacities, etc.

What it all comes down to is that society as a whole is diseased with sexism. Society insists that a man who wants to be a Kindergarten teacher must be a fag because being nice and gentle toward young children isn't manly, it's feminine. Or worse, he's a pedophile and that's why he wants to work with children. Women who want to be police are butch and manly. Men who are sensitive are lesser humans than men who are rough and tough. Women who are rough and tough are lesser humans than women who are delicate and ornate. All this bullshit sexism that has diseased society is what generates the feeling within people that they are faulty because of who they are not matching what they think society is saying they should be.

These feelings are, thus, not due to some kind of mistake of nature to create the person with the "wrong" anatomy. They are due to mistakes by society, and mistakes by the individual, to that define the quality of human existence against concepts of preconceived notions that assign identifying qualities based on gender.

For this reason, I maintain that the growth needed in society is not double down on sexism by reaffirming the false beliefs that men and women have qualities that they allegedly are supposed to maintain. Instead, we need to break away from these ideas. We need to learn to accept people's character without regard to whether that character is housed in a male or female body. If we as a society learn to do that, transgenderism will disappear and become a page in humanity's history of sexism. By indulging the hypothesis of an internal mental gender identification separate from biological identification of the same, we are embracing and propagating sexism.

understanding is only overrated to those who are ignorant.

and spoken like someone who has no clue what gender dysphoria is.

They don't care to know. They won't change their views until it touches them on a personal level. We've seen it with gays and it will be the same for trans folks.

And I would not wish parents like these phobes on any trans child.

 

[Fair&Balanced]

Fair and unbalanced brought up government money, hack, not me. We know how you feel about PA laws. You think business owners should be able to put up these signs if they want to...

Of course businesses should be able to put up that sign and implement that policy in on their own property if they choose. However, Jim Crow laws were passed because they didn't want to do it

I think if you want to get rid of PA laws, businesses should have to inform the consumer up front who they won't serve.

Fair trade, yeah?

Yes, it is. In fact that's my position. It's like privacy policies. One of the few government programs that ever worked. Government didn't force a particular privacy policy, they only required businesses to have one and post it for consumers. Government only held them to their own policy.

I think that's the perfect solution for discrimination. Businesses should have a policy, and be held to the standard of their own policy. That way customers, employees, vendors, everyone can make an informed decision if they want to deal with that business or not

Fantastic! Now git er done. Oh that's right..,you don't actually DO anything about PA laws beyond decrying the unfairness of them on Internet message boards.

Such a rebel!

How do YOU know what anyone is doing about anything? You say the same stupid shit everytime PA laws are mentioned.

Mostly because you know we are right.

Here's a fun fact for you federal PA laws don't grant your perversion the same protection against discrimination as people have for the color of your skin. So why exactly do you defend a law that allows discrimination against your perversion? LOL

 

[Fair&Balanced]

Do you also think depression is just a subjective feeling?

Before bothering to venture down that road, I suggest that you shift your assumptions about me.

I have no assumptions about you other than you seem too rational to be a Republican.

Do you think depression is just a subjective feeling? I always wonder why "conservatives" think feelings are so unimportant. We wouldn't be human without them.

There are many types of conservatives. Unfortunately, the most common type in recent times is the batshit crazy fake conservative.

I always wonder why liberals think feelings are so supremely important. We wouldn't be human if we couldn't put them to the back burner.

I don't think that's true at all. Cruz was just rejected in favor of Trump, at least partially because conservative voters are tired of losing elections over right wing nut stances on topics like abortion and gay marriage, etc etc.

 

[SwimExpert]

It is true. Our daughters are in far greater danger from known males than from trans women in bathrooms.

That, of course, is sexist. But you probably don't realize it.

 

[Fair&Balanced]

an attempt to
understand.

Understanding is overrated. That's what we have politics for.

In any event, I think this is a good time to re-assert my hypothesis about what which is called transgenderism.

The concept of transgenderism is built upon the notion that men and women have different human identities. It requires a belief that there are fundamental differences between men and women that to beyond superficial accident of their birth. There is, of course, no doubt that there are superficial differences between women, having to do with the dimorphic construction of their bodies. And there can be no doubt that there are an assortment of differences between the two classes, and commonalities within each respective class, that would seem to go beyond the mere accident of birth. But none of that amounts to anything that rightly indicates or implies any non-superficial difference between men and women.

Ultimately, the search for non-superficial differences between men and women continues to be a complete failure. Every attempt to identify such differences always turns out to be pure sexism, and often times is quite homophobic. And the notions which people express as their reasons for "feeling like the wrong gender" are similarly so. These all range from notions masculine strength vs feminine gentleness, sexist beliefs in gender specific interests, sexist conceptions of different academic capacities, etc.

What it all comes down to is that society as a whole is diseased with sexism. Society insists that a man who wants to be a Kindergarten teacher must be a fag because being nice and gentle toward young children isn't manly, it's feminine. Or worse, he's a pedophile and that's why he wants to work with children. Women who want to be police are butch and manly. Men who are sensitive are lesser humans than men who are rough and tough. Women who are rough and tough are lesser humans than women who are delicate and ornate. All this bullshit sexism that has diseased society is what generates the feeling within people that they are faulty because of who they are not matching what they think society is saying they should be.

These feelings are, thus, not due to some kind of mistake of nature to create the person with the "wrong" anatomy. They are due to mistakes by society, and mistakes by the individual, to that define the quality of human existence against concepts of preconceived notions that assign identifying qualities based on gender.

For this reason, I maintain that the growth needed in society is not double down on sexism by reaffirming the false beliefs that men and women have qualities that they allegedly are supposed to maintain. Instead, we need to break away from these ideas. We need to learn to accept people's character without regard to whether that character is housed in a male or female body. If we as a society learn to do that, transgenderism will disappear and become a page in humanity's history of sexism. By indulging the hypothesis of an internal mental gender identification separate from biological identification of the same, we are embracing and propagating sexism.

understanding is only overrated to those who are ignorant.

and spoken like someone who has no clue what gender dysphoria is.

They don't care to know. They won't change their views until it touches them on a personal level. We've seen it with gays and it will be the same for trans folks.

And I would not wish parents like these phobes on any trans child.

It's a mental disease, I wouldn't wish a "transgender" on any parent.

 

[SwimExpert]

Do you also think depression is just a subjective feeling?

Before bothering to venture down that road, I suggest that you shift your assumptions about me.

I have no assumptions about you other than you seem too rational to be a Republican.

Do you think depression is just a subjective feeling? I always wonder why "conservatives" think feelings are so unimportant. We wouldn't be human without them.

There are many types of conservatives. Unfortunately, the most common type in recent times is the batshit crazy fake conservative.

I always wonder why liberals think feelings are so supremely important. We wouldn't be human if we couldn't put them to the back burner.

I don't think that's true at all. Cruz was just rejected in favor of Trump, at least partially because conservative voters are tired of losing elections over right wing nut stances on topics like abortion and gay marriage, etc etc.

Yeah, because voting for Trump is the way to reject bat-shit crazy right wing nut nonsense.

 

[Fair&Balanced]

Do you also think depression is just a subjective feeling?

Before bothering to venture down that road, I suggest that you shift your assumptions about me.

I have no assumptions about you other than you seem too rational to be a Republican.

Do you think depression is just a subjective feeling? I always wonder why "conservatives" think feelings are so unimportant. We wouldn't be human without them.

There are many types of conservatives. Unfortunately, the most common type in recent times is the batshit crazy fake conservative.

I always wonder why liberals think feelings are so supremely important. We wouldn't be human if we couldn't put them to the back burner.

I don't think that's true at all. Cruz was just rejected in favor of Trump, at least partially because conservative voters are tired of losing elections over right wing nut stances on topics like abortion and gay marriage, etc etc.

Yeah, because voting for Trump is the way to reject bat-shit crazy right wing nut nonsense.

Securing our borders is not crazy right wing anything. it's common sense.

Now , if you want to argue that he might be a little crazy personally. Not sure I'd argue with you there, but then again I believe anyone who would want to be President might be a few fries short of a happy meal.

 

[SwimExpert]

They don't care to know. They won't change their views until it touches them on a personal level. We've seen it with gays and it will be the same for trans folks.

And I would not wish parents like these phobes on any trans child.

I feel sorry for any child whose parents force sexist notions of gender based identities on them.

 

[SwimExpert]

Before bothering to venture down that road, I suggest that you shift your assumptions about me.

I have no assumptions about you other than you seem too rational to be a Republican.

Do you think depression is just a subjective feeling? I always wonder why "conservatives" think feelings are so unimportant. We wouldn't be human without them.

There are many types of conservatives. Unfortunately, the most common type in recent times is the batshit crazy fake conservative.

I always wonder why liberals think feelings are so supremely important. We wouldn't be human if we couldn't put them to the back burner.

I don't think that's true at all. Cruz was just rejected in favor of Trump, at least partially because conservative voters are tired of losing elections over right wing nut stances on topics like abortion and gay marriage, etc etc.

Yeah, because voting for Trump is the way to reject bat-shit crazy right wing nut nonsense.

Securing our borders is not crazy right wing anything. it's common sense.

Now , if you want to argue that he might be a little crazy personally. Not sure I'd argue with you there, but then again I believe anyone who would want to be President might be a few fries short of a happy meal.

The only people who support Trump are bat shit crazy wing nut Cinos. Period.

 

[SwimExpert]

Call us when a man has a period.

Don't worry. It won't be long before someone invents an aortic valve implant that opens every 28 days for 72 hours at a time.

 

[kaz]

Fair and unbalanced brought up government money, hack, not me. We know how you feel about PA laws. You think business owners should be able to put up these signs if they want to...

Of course businesses should be able to put up that sign and implement that policy in on their own property if they choose. However, Jim Crow laws were passed because they didn't want to do it

I think if you want to get rid of PA laws, businesses should have to inform the consumer up front who they won't serve.

Fair trade, yeah?

Yes, it is. In fact that's my position. It's like privacy policies. One of the few government programs that ever worked. Government didn't force a particular privacy policy, they only required businesses to have one and post it for consumers. Government only held them to their own policy.

I think that's the perfect solution for discrimination. Businesses should have a policy, and be held to the standard of their own policy. That way customers, employees, vendors, everyone can make an informed decision if they want to deal with that business or not

Fantastic! Now git er done. Oh that's right..,you don't actually DO anything about PA laws beyond decrying the unfairness of them on Internet message boards.

Such a rebel!

 

[TheGreatGatsby]

and they are suing the Justice Dept.
Waiting for a link
It is breaking on reuters

It will be tossed out for lack of standing.

elaborate

When you do.

That's weak, dude. You explaining yourself was not contingent on him making a case. Makes me believe you're not a serious poster.

 

[jillian]

an attempt to
understand.

Understanding is overrated. That's what we have politics for.

In any event, I think this is a good time to re-assert my hypothesis about what which is called transgenderism.

The concept of transgenderism is built upon the notion that men and women have different human identities. It requires a belief that there are fundamental differences between men and women that to beyond superficial accident of their birth. There is, of course, no doubt that there are superficial differences between women, having to do with the dimorphic construction of their bodies. And there can be no doubt that there are an assortment of differences between the two classes, and commonalities within each respective class, that would seem to go beyond the mere accident of birth. But none of that amounts to anything that rightly indicates or implies any non-superficial difference between men and women.

Ultimately, the search for non-superficial differences between men and women continues to be a complete failure. Every attempt to identify such differences always turns out to be pure sexism, and often times is quite homophobic. And the notions which people express as their reasons for "feeling like the wrong gender" are similarly so. These all range from notions masculine strength vs feminine gentleness, sexist beliefs in gender specific interests, sexist conceptions of different academic capacities, etc.

What it all comes down to is that society as a whole is diseased with sexism. Society insists that a man who wants to be a Kindergarten teacher must be a fag because being nice and gentle toward young children isn't manly, it's feminine. Or worse, he's a pedophile and that's why he wants to work with children. Women who want to be police are butch and manly. Men who are sensitive are lesser humans than men who are rough and tough. Women who are rough and tough are lesser humans than women who are delicate and ornate. All this bullshit sexism that has diseased society is what generates the feeling within people that they are faulty because of who they are not matching what they think society is saying they should be.

These feelings are, thus, not due to some kind of mistake of nature to create the person with the "wrong" anatomy. They are due to mistakes by society, and mistakes by the individual, to that define the quality of human existence against concepts of preconceived notions that assign identifying qualities based on gender.

For this reason, I maintain that the growth needed in society is not double down on sexism by reaffirming the false beliefs that men and women have qualities that they allegedly are supposed to maintain. Instead, we need to break away from these ideas. We need to learn to accept people's character without regard to whether that character is housed in a male or female body. If we as a society learn to do that, transgenderism will disappear and become a page in humanity's history of sexism. By indulging the hypothesis of an internal mental gender identification separate from biological identification of the same, we are embracing and propagating sexism.

understanding is only overrated to those who are ignorant.

and spoken like someone who has no clue what gender dysphoria is.

They don't care to know. They won't change their views until it touches them on a personal level. We've seen it with gays and it will be the same for trans folks.

And I would not wish parents like these phobes on any trans child.

there is a reason that something like 80% of transgender teens attempt suicide at one point or another.....

 

[TNHarley]

an attempt to
understand.

Understanding is overrated. That's what we have politics for.

In any event, I think this is a good time to re-assert my hypothesis about what which is called transgenderism.

The concept of transgenderism is built upon the notion that men and women have different human identities. It requires a belief that there are fundamental differences between men and women that to beyond superficial accident of their birth. There is, of course, no doubt that there are superficial differences between women, having to do with the dimorphic construction of their bodies. And there can be no doubt that there are an assortment of differences between the two classes, and commonalities within each respective class, that would seem to go beyond the mere accident of birth. But none of that amounts to anything that rightly indicates or implies any non-superficial difference between men and women.

Ultimately, the search for non-superficial differences between men and women continues to be a complete failure. Every attempt to identify such differences always turns out to be pure sexism, and often times is quite homophobic. And the notions which people express as their reasons for "feeling like the wrong gender" are similarly so. These all range from notions masculine strength vs feminine gentleness, sexist beliefs in gender specific interests, sexist conceptions of different academic capacities, etc.

What it all comes down to is that society as a whole is diseased with sexism. Society insists that a man who wants to be a Kindergarten teacher must be a fag because being nice and gentle toward young children isn't manly, it's feminine. Or worse, he's a pedophile and that's why he wants to work with children. Women who want to be police are butch and manly. Men who are sensitive are lesser humans than men who are rough and tough. Women who are rough and tough are lesser humans than women who are delicate and ornate. All this bullshit sexism that has diseased society is what generates the feeling within people that they are faulty because of who they are not matching what they think society is saying they should be.

These feelings are, thus, not due to some kind of mistake of nature to create the person with the "wrong" anatomy. They are due to mistakes by society, and mistakes by the individual, to that define the quality of human existence against concepts of preconceived notions that assign identifying qualities based on gender.

For this reason, I maintain that the growth needed in society is not double down on sexism by reaffirming the false beliefs that men and women have qualities that they allegedly are supposed to maintain. Instead, we need to break away from these ideas. We need to learn to accept people's character without regard to whether that character is housed in a male or female body. If we as a society learn to do that, transgenderism will disappear and become a page in humanity's history of sexism. By indulging the hypothesis of an internal mental gender identification separate from biological identification of the same, we are embracing and propagating sexism.

understanding is only overrated to those who are ignorant.

and spoken like someone who has no clue what gender dysphoria is.

They don't care to know. They won't change their views until it touches them on a personal level. We've seen it with gays and it will be the same for trans folks.

And I would not wish parents like these phobes on any trans child.

there is a reason that something like 80% of transgender teens attempt suicide at one point or another.....

because they are mentally ill perhaps?

 

[Pop23]

Call us when a man has a period.

Don't worry. It won't be long before someone invents an aortic valve implant that opens every 28 days for 72 hours at a time.

Will they then implant something that allows the tranny to expel a bowling ball out of his surgically altered dick nine months after the valve fails?

If it were possible to make tranny males get pregnant and have to give birth, there would be zero tranny males.

 

[TNHarley]

Call us when a man has a period.

Don't worry. It won't be long before someone invents an aortic valve implant that opens every 28 days for 72 hours at a time.

Will they then implant something that allows the tranny to expel a bowling ball out of his surgically altered dick nine months after the valve fails?

If it were possible to make tranny males get pregnant and have to give birth, there would be zero tranny males.

did you know that tranny males have to use some special kind of lube to keep their cut up dick from closing up? The body treats it like a wound.

 

[Pop23]

I heard a comedian once say that if a man wanted to know what childbirth felt like.............

Pull your upper lip out and pull
It over the top of your head.

Let the tranny male do that before they say they're "functioning as a Woman".

 

[TNHarley]

imagine sticking your dick in a dick
If a male has sex with a tranny male, does that make him gay?