Nazis were Catholic?

Beloved Germany? Why should had loved the Austrian Hitler Germany after Germany lost world war 1
Whether Austria is a part of Germany or not is apparently a matter of view and not fact. I guess anyway that Austria spent more time being part of Germany than being not.
 
There was no "official" Nazi religion. The demographics at the time were like 60/40 Protestant vs Catholic among the religious types. There was considerable disagreement among the Nazi leadership about religion, some considering "true christianity" to be necessary to the fight against the Jews, others being radically anti-church like Goebbels, and some even professing to be occultists, Himmler was one such.

Hitler himself was born and raised Catholic but there is no evidence he was devote in any way
The nazis belived in aliens and were socialist

The name "national-socialistic German workers party" is indeed only an empty phrase. This name existed only on pragmatic reasons: The Nazis tried to get votes with this method. And the name "Nazi" on its own was by the way also a way to get votes. It's a short form of a popular German forename. No one is using this name any longer. People with this name were seen conservative and reliable. Call the NSDAP just simple "Hitler-party" then you know what the Hitler party was really: a Hitler party. Everyone had to be a "loyalist" of Hitler in the eyes of the Nazis.

 
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Beloved Germany? Why should had loved the Austrian Hitler Germany after Germany lost world war 1
Whether Austria is a part of Germany or not is apparently a matter of view and not fact. I guess anyway that Austria spent more time being part of Germany than being not.

The German emperor became the excluded Austrian emperor when Napoleon Bonaparte had conquered Germany. Afterwards the Prussians continued to make one by another German country to a colony of Prussia. One result was the Germans in the South of the former holy empire - Bavarians and Austrians - started to learn to hate "the Prussians" (=all Germans, who were not Bavarians). This hate and the hate against all nobles grew in world war 1. Indeed the most Germans - also the Germans in the North - hated the own noble commanders more, than they ever had hated the soldiers of the enemies of Germany. Still today when you ask a Bavarian whether he loves Bavaria then he will answer "sure". But when you ask him whether he loves Germany he will perhaps start to think a long and longer time and shrug off the shoulders.

 
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There was no "official" Nazi religion. The demographics at the time were like 60/40 Protestant vs Catholic among the religious types. There was considerable disagreement among the Nazi leadership about religion, some considering "true christianity" to be necessary to the fight against the Jews, others being radically anti-church like Goebbels, and some even professing to be occultists, Himmler was one such.

Hitler himself was born and raised Catholic but there is no evidence he was devote in any way
The nazis belived in aliens and were socialist

The name "national-socialistic German workers party" is indeed only an empty phrase. This name existed only on pragmatic reasons: The Nazis tried to get votes with this method. And the name "Nazi" on its own was by the way also a way to get votes. It's a short form of a popular German forename. No one is using this name any longer. People with this name were seen conservative and reliable. Call the NSDAP just simple "Hitler-party" then you know what the Hitler party was really: a Hitler party. Everyone had to be a "loyalist" of Hitler in the eyes of the Nazis.

 
If you check you will see many similarities between nazis and democrats
 
Beloved Germany? Why should had loved the Austrian Hitler Germany after Germany lost world war 1
Whether Austria is a part of Germany or not is apparently a matter of view and not fact. I guess anyway that Austria spent more time being part of Germany than being not.

The German emperor became the excluded Austrian emperor when Napoleon Bonaparte had conquered Germany. Afterwards the Prussians continued to make one by another German country to a colony of Prussia. One result was the Germans in the South of the former holy empire - Bavarians and Austrians - started to learn to hate "the Prussians" (=all Germans, who were not Bavarians). This hate and the hate against all nobles grew in world war 1. Indeed the most Germans - also the Germans in the North - hated the own noble commanders more, than they ever had hated the soldiers of the enemies of Germany. Still today when you ask a Bavarian whether he loves Bavaria then he will answer "sure". But when you ask him whether he loves Germany he will perhaps start to think a long and longer time and shrug off the shoulders.


In fact, the end of the Holy Roman Empire was not the end of Austria being part of Germany.

Austro-Prussian War - Wikipedia
 
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The Christians who defend Israel because of bible prophecy don’t love the Jews. The Jews don’t care if the story is made up because it tells Christians to defend the Jews. The Jews know the Christians prophecies are hogwash. As long as they defend them against the Arabs that’s all they care about.

Perfect example of how they use religion to control us.

booboo ---you did not learn your catechism stuff. The Christians do not
use the jewish prophecies and the jews do not even know what the
Christian prophecies are. Where does "it" say that Christians should
"defend" jews?--------well -----that\s a really complicated issue. ----depends
upon what you call "neighbor"
I’m talking about Bible Belt Christians. They say it’s all in the Bible. They are to defend the Jews till the end days.

Just because your sect of Christianity doesn’t espouse to this doesn’t mean others dont

oh----like I do not know "bible belt" Christians--------where do you live?
On the moon?? Have you done anything more than 20 miles from
home? I am a jew-----not a christian
Google pat robertson why evangelical Christians defend Israel. It’s because they believe the words of Moses and and the ancient profits of Israel were inspired by god. And that god gave the Jews that land.


yeah? so? how does "Christians who believe that bible" surprise
you?
ont change the subject. You said Christians don’t use Jewish prophecy and I showed you that evangelicals buy into the Old Testament. They believe it.

It’s really an unholy alliance because the truth is jews call bullshit on the Jesus stories. They say he was just a man.

But that doesn’t stop evangelicals from supporting Israel because Christianity is a spin-off of jewdaoism. They can’t call bs on the Old Testament because then that would mean their religion is bs too.
 
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The Christians who defend Israel because of bible prophecy don’t love the Jews. The Jews don’t care if the story is made up because it tells Christians to defend the Jews. The Jews know the Christians prophecies are hogwash. As long as they defend them against the Arabs that’s all they care about.

Perfect example of how they use religion to control us.

booboo ---you did not learn your catechism stuff. The Christians do not
use the jewish prophecies and the jews do not even know what the
Christian prophecies are. Where does "it" say that Christians should
"defend" jews?--------well -----that\s a really complicated issue. ----depends
upon what you call "neighbor"
I’m talking about Bible Belt Christians. They say it’s all in the Bible. They are to defend the Jews till the end days.

Just because your sect of Christianity doesn’t espouse to this doesn’t mean others dont

oh----like I do not know "bible belt" Christians--------where do you live?
On the moon?? Have you done anything more than 20 miles from
home? I am a jew-----not a christian
Google pat robertson why evangelical Christians defend Israel. It’s because they believe the words of Moses and and the ancient profits of Israel were inspired by god. And that god gave the Jews that land.


yeah? so? how does "Christians who believe that bible" surprise
you?
ont change the subject. You said Christians don’t use Jewish prophecy and I showed you that evangelicals buy into the Old Testament. They believe it.

It’s really an unholy alliance because the truth is jews call bullshit on the Jesus stories. They say he was just a man.

But that doesn’t stop evangelicals from supporting Israel because Christianity is a spin-off of jewdaoism. They can’t call bs on the Old Testament because then that would mean their religion is bs too.
The first two nations the Nazis attacked in world war 2 were by the way France and Poland - nations with a big catholic population. And the leading members of the NSDAP and the members of the SS nearly never married in a Christian church. And the "Third empire" (=das dritte Reich) was 12 years from 1933 to 1945 => 86 - 74 years ago. So: think faster, whoever you are.



Catholics were butchered,


That's wrong.

and enslaved in both Poland & France by Nazi Germany, this also includes some Catholic clergy.

"Enslaved" is the wrong word. And the word "Catholic" makes in this context also not a big sense. No one had the feeling to fight against the catholic church, when "we" conquered Poland and France.

Ultimately Nazi Germany also invaded Catholic Italy & Catholic dominated Hungary, merely because they resisted the Holocaust.

As far as I know we did not invade Italy. German troops were in Italy, when Italy killed Mussolini and changed the side. And Hungaria was just simple on the wrong place in the war against the bolsheviks of Russia. But you are right: During world war 2 the Hungarians had opposed the Holocaust. Not to understand why today the Antisemitism is so high in Hungaria.

So, I fail to see Italy even as a very good example, Italy was probably more of a pawn.

The politics of the Nazis was to solve the problem "Catholics" after the victory in world war 2.



Catholics were butchered, indeed.

Particularly in Wola Massacre, Operation Tannenberg, and let's not forget the first POW's of Auschwitz were Catholic Poles, rather than Jews.

Sob, you’re seriously fat, what happened, you give up on girls?


Sure, like this guy below is seriously fat, you do realize the really Ripped Bodybuilders get very low in Body Fat percentages, and that this below is more of a Normal Body Fat Percentage, right?

lee-priest-off-season.jpg

you don’t look like that
 
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booboo ---you did not learn your catechism stuff. The Christians do not
use the jewish prophecies and the jews do not even know what the
Christian prophecies are. Where does "it" say that Christians should
"defend" jews?--------well -----that\s a really complicated issue. ----depends
upon what you call "neighbor"
I’m talking about Bible Belt Christians. They say it’s all in the Bible. They are to defend the Jews till the end days.

Just because your sect of Christianity doesn’t espouse to this doesn’t mean others dont

oh----like I do not know "bible belt" Christians--------where do you live?
On the moon?? Have you done anything more than 20 miles from
home? I am a jew-----not a christian
Google pat robertson why evangelical Christians defend Israel. It’s because they believe the words of Moses and and the ancient profits of Israel were inspired by god. And that god gave the Jews that land.


yeah? so? how does "Christians who believe that bible" surprise
you?
ont change the subject. You said Christians don’t use Jewish prophecy and I showed you that evangelicals buy into the Old Testament. They believe it.

It’s really an unholy alliance because the truth is jews call bullshit on the Jesus stories. They say he was just a man.

But that doesn’t stop evangelicals from supporting Israel because Christianity is a spin-off of jewdaoism. They can’t call bs on the Old Testament because then that would mean their religion is bs too.
 
I’m talking about Bible Belt Christians. They say it’s all in the Bible. They are to defend the Jews till the end days.

Just because your sect of Christianity doesn’t espouse to this doesn’t mean others dont

oh----like I do not know "bible belt" Christians--------where do you live?
On the moon?? Have you done anything more than 20 miles from
home? I am a jew-----not a christian
Google pat robertson why evangelical Christians defend Israel. It’s because they believe the words of Moses and and the ancient profits of Israel were inspired by god. And that god gave the Jews that land.


yeah? so? how does "Christians who believe that bible" surprise
you?
It’s simple. He believes in reading the first eleven chapters of the Torah literally instead of how it was intended to be understood.

He thinks people who read the Torah literally are idiots and he’s right they are idiots. He should know he’s one of them.

oh----I am fascinated How were the first 11 chapters of the Torah
"intended" to be understood------and by whom?
She asked you a question ding. I bet she will prove you have it all wrong too.
 
Theres only one way to find out the truth about relgion and whos right if anyone is and thats to die .
 
Theres only one way to find out the truth about relgion and whos right if anyone is and thats to die .
Yea so who should I believe the old or New Testament? Book of Mormons? Torah? Koran?

So I think god will be ok that I called bullshit on all of them.
 
I’m talking about Bible Belt Christians. They say it’s all in the Bible. They are to defend the Jews till the end days.

Just because your sect of Christianity doesn’t espouse to this doesn’t mean others dont

oh----like I do not know "bible belt" Christians--------where do you live?
On the moon?? Have you done anything more than 20 miles from
home? I am a jew-----not a christian
Google pat robertson why evangelical Christians defend Israel. It’s because they believe the words of Moses and and the ancient profits of Israel were inspired by god. And that god gave the Jews that land.


yeah? so? how does "Christians who believe that bible" surprise
you?
It’s simple. He believes in reading the first eleven chapters of the Torah literally instead of how it was intended to be understood.

He thinks people who read the Torah literally are idiots and he’s right they are idiots. He should know he’s one of them.

oh----I am fascinated How were the first 11 chapters of the Torah
"intended" to be understood------and by whom?
You are Jewish and you don’t know?

As ancient man’s recording of actual events and selected wisdoms which were passed down orally for thousands of years; from one generation to the next until they were put down in writing.
 
oh----like I do not know "bible belt" Christians--------where do you live?
On the moon?? Have you done anything more than 20 miles from
home? I am a jew-----not a christian
Google pat robertson why evangelical Christians defend Israel. It’s because they believe the words of Moses and and the ancient profits of Israel were inspired by god. And that god gave the Jews that land.


yeah? so? how does "Christians who believe that bible" surprise
you?
It’s simple. He believes in reading the first eleven chapters of the Torah literally instead of how it was intended to be understood.

He thinks people who read the Torah literally are idiots and he’s right they are idiots. He should know he’s one of them.

oh----I am fascinated How were the first 11 chapters of the Torah
"intended" to be understood------and by whom?
She asked you a question ding. I bet she will prove you have it all wrong too.
Only time will tell.

I like my chances though.
 
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booboo ---you did not learn your catechism stuff. The Christians do not
use the jewish prophecies and the jews do not even know what the
Christian prophecies are. Where does "it" say that Christians should
"defend" jews?--------well -----that\s a really complicated issue. ----depends
upon what you call "neighbor"
I’m talking about Bible Belt Christians. They say it’s all in the Bible. They are to defend the Jews till the end days.

Just because your sect of Christianity doesn’t espouse to this doesn’t mean others dont

oh----like I do not know "bible belt" Christians--------where do you live?
On the moon?? Have you done anything more than 20 miles from
home? I am a jew-----not a christian
Google pat robertson why evangelical Christians defend Israel. It’s because they believe the words of Moses and and the ancient profits of Israel were inspired by god. And that god gave the Jews that land.


yeah? so? how does "Christians who believe that bible" surprise
you?
ont change the subject. You said Christians don’t use Jewish prophecy and I showed you that evangelicals buy into the Old Testament. They believe it.

It’s really an unholy alliance because the truth is jews call bullshit on the Jesus stories. They say he was just a man.

But that doesn’t stop evangelicals from supporting Israel because Christianity is a spin-off of jewdaoism. They can’t call bs on the Old Testament because then that would mean their religion is bs too.

boo boo, you vacillate between lying and NOTHING. Your statement "you said Christians don't use jewish prophecy..." is
idiotic------IMO---Christians misconstrue "jewish prophecy" (it is
better to say 'writings of jewish prophets' As to Jesus stories ---true-----Jesus is a man if one looks at him from a jewish perspective.
As to "BS"-----whatevah
 
oh----like I do not know "bible belt" Christians--------where do you live?
On the moon?? Have you done anything more than 20 miles from
home? I am a jew-----not a christian
Google pat robertson why evangelical Christians defend Israel. It’s because they believe the words of Moses and and the ancient profits of Israel were inspired by god. And that god gave the Jews that land.


yeah? so? how does "Christians who believe that bible" surprise
you?
It’s simple. He believes in reading the first eleven chapters of the Torah literally instead of how it was intended to be understood.

He thinks people who read the Torah literally are idiots and he’s right they are idiots. He should know he’s one of them.

oh----I am fascinated How were the first 11 chapters of the Torah
"intended" to be understood------and by whom?
You are Jewish and you don’t know?

As ancient man’s recording of actual events and selected wisdoms which were passed down orally for thousands of years; from one generation to the next until they were put down in writing.

probably----no one knows the details-------your explanation is vague
enough to cover every scriptural writing in existence
 
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Theres only one way to find out the truth about relgion and whos right if anyone is and thats to die .
Yea so who should I believe the old or New Testament? Book of Mormons? Torah? Koran?

So I think god will be ok that I called bullshit on all of them.

anything can be called "BULLSHIT" --------I once called calculus
BULLSHIT----until I learned to handle all those silly symbols
 
Google pat robertson why evangelical Christians defend Israel. It’s because they believe the words of Moses and and the ancient profits of Israel were inspired by god. And that god gave the Jews that land.


yeah? so? how does "Christians who believe that bible" surprise
you?
It’s simple. He believes in reading the first eleven chapters of the Torah literally instead of how it was intended to be understood.

He thinks people who read the Torah literally are idiots and he’s right they are idiots. He should know he’s one of them.

oh----I am fascinated How were the first 11 chapters of the Torah
"intended" to be understood------and by whom?
You are Jewish and you don’t know?

As ancient man’s recording of actual events and selected wisdoms which were passed down orally for thousands of years; from one generation to the next until they were put down in writing.

probably----no one knows the details-------your explanation is vague
enough to cover every scriptural writing in existence
The first five books of the Bible (known as the Torah) were written by Moses - an adopted son of the king of Egypt - in approximately 1400 B.C.. These five books focus on the beginning of the nation of Israel; but the first 11 chapters of the Torah records the history that all nations have in common. These allegorical accounts of the history of the world had been passed down from generation to generation orally for thousands of years. Moses did not write the first 11 chapters of the Bible. Moses was the first Hebrew to record them.

Approximately 1500 years before Moses recorded the allegorical accounts of the history of the world. The Chinese recorded this history as symbols in the Chinese language. They drew pictures to express words or ideas. Simple pictures were combined to make more complex thoughts. They used well known history and common everyday things to make a word so people could easily remember it. The account of Genesis found it's way into the Chinese written language because the Chinese had migrated from the cradle of civilization. Prior to this migration they all shared a common history and religion.

The Torah even explains how it was possible for the Chinese to record the account of Genesis 1500 years before Moses recorded it. The account of the Tower of Babel was the allegorical account of the great migration from Mesopotamia. This also explains why all ancient cultures have an account of a great flood. Because they all shared a common history and religion before the great migration from the cradle of civilization.

So if we start from the belief that the first eleven chapters of the Torah are an allegorical account of world history before the great migration from Mesopotamia - which was an actual historical event - then the first eleven chapters of the Torah takes on new meaning. Seen in this light these accounts should be viewed less like fairy tales and more like how important information was passed down in ancient times. Just as the Chinese used well known history and everyday things as symbols in their written language to make words easier to remember, ancient man used stories to pass down historical events and important knowledge to future generations. Interspersed in these allegorical accounts of history are wisdoms that they deemed important enough to pass down and remember. Such as man knows right from wrong and when he violates it, rather than abandoning the concept of right and wrong he rationalizes he didn't do wrong. Most people don't even realize this wisdom is in the Torah because they read it critically instead of searching for the wisdom that ancient man knew and found important enough to include in his account of world history.

We have to keep in mind that these accounts are 6,000 years old and were passed down orally from one generation to the next for thousands of years. Surely ancient man believed these accounts were of the utmost importance otherwise they would not have been passed down for thousands of years before they were recorded in writing. We shouldn't view these accounts using the context of the modern world. Unfortunately, we are so far removed from these events that we have lost all original meaning. If you were to ask almost any Jew what the Tower of Babel was about he would have no clue that it was the allegorical account of the great migration from the cradle of civilization. That is not intended to be a criticism. It is intended to be an illustration of just how difficult a task it is to discover the original meaning from ancient accounts from 6,000 years ago. We read these texts like they were written yesterday looking for ways to discredit them and make ourselves feel superior rather than seeking the original meaning and wisdom.
 
cute little classic comic essay on the HISTORY OF THE WORLD---
someone notify Mel Brooks. There is no question that the
MYTHS OF THE WORLD ----share commonalities. For a better
grasp of the COMMONALITIES shared by the HUMAN BRAIN---
a nice place to start if the Brilliant insight of Sigmund Freud
expounded upon in his book "ON DREAMS".........as to
rendering those phenomena "solid proofs" on the actual
HISTORY OF THE WORLD---------I, actually, do not buy into that
sophistry entirely
 
cute little classic comic essay on the HISTORY OF THE WORLD---
someone notify Mel Brooks. There is no question that the
MYTHS OF THE WORLD ----share commonalities. For a better
grasp of the COMMONALITIES shared by the HUMAN BRAIN---
a nice place to start if the Brilliant insight of Sigmund Freud
expounded upon in his book "ON DREAMS".........as to
rendering those phenomena "solid proofs" on the actual
HISTORY OF THE WORLD---------I, actually, do not buy into that
sophistry entirely
At the heart of this debate is whether or not the material world was created by spirit. If the material world were not created by spirit, then everything which has occurred since the beginning of space and time are products of the material world. Everything which is incorporeal proceeded from the corporeal. There is no middle ground. There is no other option. Either the material world was created by spirit or it wasn't. All other options will simplify to one of these two lowest common denominators which are mutually exclusive.

So we need to start from that position and examine the evidence we have at our disposal which is creation itself. Specifically, the laws of nature; physical, biological and moral. And how space and time has evolved. And how we perceive God.

If we perceive God to be some magical fairy tale then everything we see will skew to that result. There won't be one single thing that we will agree with or accept. Whereas if we were trying to objectively analyze the evidence for spirit creating the material world we would listen to the whole argument and not look for trivial things to nitpick.

Genesis is the allegorical account of the history of the world that all people share. Chapter 1 and 2 of Genesis is the allegorical account of creation. Specifically, that the universe did have a beginning and that man is a product of the universe. We need to stop reading the Bible like we think it is a fairy tale. These are allegorical accounts of history that ancient man deemed important enough to orally pass down from generation to generation for thousands of years. We shouldn't view these accounts using the context of the modern world. We are so far removed from these events that we have lost all original meaning which is why some modern men view these accounts as fairy tales instead of what they really are; ancient man's allegorical account of world history.
 
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