Natural immunity AND the Covid vaccine may be the best way to go

[fncceo]

Be concerned about others.

If I do, they might actually be tempted to care about me ... I couldn't abide that.

You do you, I'll do me.

 

[badbobTexas]

If I do, they might actually be tempted to care about me ... I couldn't abide that.

You do you, I'll do me.

OK

 

[johnwk]

None of the Fauxi cult of moonbats are the least bit interested in natural immunity....They've all gone corporate and thrown in with BigPharm's snake juice.

As it turns out, the vaccine may actually interfere with one's natural immunity!

See: Vaccination could jeopardize our natural immunity to COVID-19, virologist cautions

JWK

 

[johnwk]

Natural immunity works for me.

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The survival rate to covid is about 99%. Of course, one’s own probability of surviving covid depends upon age and one’s own medical history, i.e., people with diabetes, asthma, high blood pressure, chronic kidney disease, cancer, etc., are at a higher risk of death due to covid. These are the people who probably would benefit from the vaccine, while those who are at low risk and get covid, and beat it, do better with their natural immunity.

Why is this so hard for the covid vaccine jabbers to understand? One freaken size does not fit all.

In any event, one thing is certain, NYC’s one size fits all [No Vax, No Service] mandate is not only absurd, but destructive to the general welfare of the community. People need to make their own medical decisions, based on their own circumstances.

JWK

The citizens of the United States paid little attention while their tyrannical federal government gave aid and comfort to hundreds of thousands of foreign nationals invading their country.

 

[Resnic]

If you want the shot then get it. If you dont then dont.

If you want to wear a mask then wear it. If you dont then dont.

And let the chips fall where they may and shut the fuck up about all of it, do what you need to do and leave everyone else alone.

 

[johnwk]

If you want the shot then get it. If you dont then dont.

If you want to wear a mask then wear it. If you dont then dont.

And let the chips fall where they may and shut the fuck up about all of it, do what you need to do and leave everyone else alone.

A-freaken-men to that!

Unfortunately, we have covid jabbers issuing mandates, and tyrannical judges, and Justices siding with them, not based upon common sense, the rule of law and scientific evidence, but simply because of their personal whims and fancies.

JWK

"The public welfare demands that constitutional cases must be decided according to the terms of the Constitution itself, and not according to judges' views of fairness, reasonableness, or justice." -- Justice Hugo L. Black ( U.S. Supreme Court Justice, 1886 - 1971) Source: Lecture, Columbia University, 1968

 

[johnwk]

There is something very suspicious taking place in the United States

What is very, very suspicious, at least to me is, while the overall survival rate to covid is about 98%, and we know who the most vulnerable to the virus are and we can treat and protect them, why has our mainstream media been so intent on ignoring these factors and instead, generating mass hysteria and suggesting 24/7, “get the vaccine or die”?

It seems to me from the very beginning of the covid outbreak there has been a concerted effort by our mainstream media to encourage a course of action destructive, in many ways, to the general welfare of the United States rather than advocating a common sense approach avoiding a total undermining of America’s way of life.

What I’m seeing, in the big picture is, our mainstream media is constantly promoting actions destructive to the general welfare of the United States and her citizens [i.e., immigration policy; monetary policy; foreign policy; etc.] and its current handling of the Covid outbreak is just one more opportunity to help weaken and destroy America and subjugate the American people.

JWK

President Biden is giving aid and comfort to tens of thousands of Covid infected foreigners, who are invading our southern border

 

[justoffal]

A CDC study shows 74% of people infected in Massachusetts Covid outbreak were fully vaccinated


JUL 30 2021

• About three-fourths of people infected in a Massachusetts Covid-19 outbreak were fully vaccinated, according to new data published Friday by the CDC.
  
  
• The new data, published in the U.S. agency’s Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report, also found that fully vaccinated people who get infected carry as much of the virus in their nose as unvaccinated people.

So, 74% of the fully vaccinated getting covid seems to indicate the “vaccine” is not very effective. Not only that, but it seems that mother nature has a way of providing better protection to those who do get infected!

See Previous COVID-19 may cut risk of reinfection 84%

Apr 12, 2021

”People who had COVID-19 had an 84% lower risk of becoming reinfected and a 93% lower risk of symptomatic infection during 7 months of follow-up, according to findings from a large, multicenter study published late last week in The Lancet.”

The article goes on to point out "the findings of the authors suggest that infection and the development of an antibody response provides protection similar to or even better than currently used SARS-CoV-2 vaccines.”

From the mountain of material I have read over the past two years, I am beginning to think the vaccine is probably a useful tool for those at high risk of seriously complications should they get covid, and that allowing nature to take its course with those at low risk of serious complications from covid, i.e., letting their body create a natural immunity to covid, may very well be the proper course of action, at least, the evidence seems to suggest this.

One thing for certain, NYC's one size fits all _ No Vax, No Service _ is not only absurd, but destructive to the general welfare of the community.

JWK

The Democrat Party Leadership, once an advocate for hard working American citizens and their families, is now their worst nightmare.

Well geez go figure the human body's been manufacturing antibodies for a 100,000 years... It's no surprise that it's a bit better than the pharmaceutical companies at manufacturing the antibodies.

Jo

 

[justoffal]

A-freaken-men to that!

Unfortunately, we have covid jabbers issuing mandates, and tyrannical judges, and Justices siding with them, not based upon common sense, the rule of law and scientific evidence, but simply because of their personal whims and fancies.

JWK

"The public welfare demands that constitutional cases must be decided according to the terms of the Constitution itself, and not according to judges' views of fairness, reasonableness, or justice." -- Justice Hugo L. Black ( U.S. Supreme Court Justice, 1886 - 1971) Source: Lecture, Columbia University, 1968

The covid mania has much less to do with health and more to do with gaining total control over the population using the virus as a back door to assert that goal.

 

[johnwk]

The covid mania has much less to do with health and more to do with gaining total control over the population using the virus as a back door to assert that goal.

To partly confirm your comment, one only need look to NYC's one size fits all __ No Vax, No Service which is not only absurd, but ignores the science, and actually encourages the fully vaccinated, who are symptom free but infected and spreading the virus, to go about and enjoy public accommodations and spread the virus, while those who have natural immunity and are virus free, are discriminated against by government and prohibited from going about their daily activities.

This is not only freaken insane, it is a direct assault on the inalienable rights of mankind which our system of government has a priority to protect.

And then, to make matters worse, we have tyrannical judges and Justices who, in recent years, ignore the rule of law and impose their personal whims and facies as the rule of law, and do so to advance what they believe is social justice, fairness, and reasonableness . . . totally ignoring what our constitutions, state and federal, were designed to protect.

Keep in mind we have been amply warned about allowing the above to occur:

"When a free people submit to oppressive acts, passed in violation of their constitution, for a single day, they have thrown down the palladium of their liberty. Submit to despotism for an hour and you concede the principle. John Adams said, in 1775, Nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud. It is the only thing a people determined to be free can do. Republics have often failed, and have been succeeded by the most revolting despotisms; and always it was the voice of timidity, cowardice, or false leaders counseling submission, that led to the final downfall of freedom. It was the cowardice and treachery of the Senate of Rome that allowed the usurper to gain power, inch by inch, to overthrow the Republic. The history of the downfall of Republics is the same in all ages. The first inch that is yielded to despotism __ the first blow, dealt at the Constitution, that is not resisted is the beginning of the end of the nation's ruin." ___ The Old Guard, a monthly journal devoted to the principles of 1776 and 1787.

Until a few of these scoundrels are severely punished, and made to pay for their notoriously evil doings, things will only get worse, and the United States of America will look more and more like the tyrannical governments of Cuba, China, Venezuela, etc.

JWK

"The public welfare demands that constitutional cases must be decided according to the terms of the Constitution itself, and not according to judges' views of fairness, reasonableness, or justice." -- Justice Hugo L. Black ( U.S. Supreme Court Justice, 1886 - 1971) Source: Lecture, Columbia University, 1968

 

[johnwk]

Get some of this. 30,000 successful antibody treatments delivered in Florida's fight against Covid

August 30, 2021

The treatment is having great success especially in Florida! See Florida Gov. DeSantis Announces Nearly 30,000 Monoclonal Antibody Treatments, Success In Jacksonville, Tampa, and Panama City


“As of this morning, the state of Florida through our 21 different sites has been able to provide nearly 30,000 treatments of monoclonal antibodies all throughout our state,” said Governor Ron DeSantis. “If you look at the numbers, admissions for COVID to hospitals are down, visits to the emergency department for COVID-like illness are down, and the COVID-positive hospital census is also down.”


Thank you Gov. DeSantis for taking the lead in providing the game changer antibody treatment centers around the state of Florida.

JWK


None dare call the Democrat Party Leadership’s arming of the Taliban, (our enemy), with United States’ military equipment, as TREASON. Why?

 

[johnwk]

COVID-19 cases stay high, hospitalizations drop in Florida | Miami Herald

AUGUST 31, 2021

"The number of patients with coronavirus in Florida hospitals continues to drop as infection rates stay high, a sign that while more people are testing positive for the virus, they are not necessarily developing severe illness.

The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services tallied 15,488 patients with COVID-19 in Florida hospitals, an 8% decrease over the past week. Meanwhile, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention report a 7-day average of 21,489 new cases per day in the state, not far from its recent peak of 21,761."

In regard to the number of infections, that number is really irrelevant. What is relevant are the number of hospitalizations and deaths, specifically due to Covid.


Gov. DeSantis did an excellent job by increasing the availability of the antibody treatment by setting up treatment centers around the state.


JWK


None dare call the Democrat Party Leadership’s arming of the Taliban, (our enemy), with United States’ military equipment, as TREASON. Why?

 

[airplanemechanic]

It is nice to know that liberals think the Trump vaccines are so good they've mandated them.

Thank you Donald John Trump.

Guess cumalot Harris will have to eat her words saying she doesn't trust them because they were Trump vaccines.

 

[johnwk]

The Biden created COVID variant pandemic of 2021​

President Biden recently mentioned we have a “pandemic of the unvaccinated” . Of course, that comment was made to divide the nation and bully the “unvaccinated” into accepting a government one-size fits all program ___ get vaccinated, even the millions of Americans who have acquired natural immunity.

But wait a minute. Is it not fair to say that the real pandemic now spreading across our country is one created by President Biden?

Keep in mind Biden has refused to compel hundreds of thousands of foreigners invading our southern border to be vaccinated. Instead, he has greeted them with open arms and has even provided transportation for them into our nation’s interior, COVID infected and all.

The frightening fact is, tens of thousands of those being released into our nation’s interior with Biden’s approval have come from a number of countries around the world including China, Bangladesh, Turkey, Egypt, Nigeria, Kenya, and various other countries including India where the Covid-19, Delta variant originated.

Considering we now have a Delta outbreak spreading across our country, and new variants popping up all the time, and Biden has been filling our country with tens of thousands of unvaccinated, and COVID infected foreigners from all parts of the world into our nation’s interior, is it not reasonable to say we now have a Biden created COVID variant pandemic in the United States?

JWK

The Democrat Party Leadership, once an advocate for hard working American citizens and their families, is now their worst nightmare.

 

[Circe]

Get the vaccine. Wear a mask. Be concerned about others. The infection will do down radically.

It hasn't yet. In fact, it's gone up, wildly. So you must be wrong.

 

[justoffal]

It hasn't yet. In fact, it's gone up, wildly. So you must be wrong.

What a bunch of stupid robots. All that matters to them is seeing the entire population droned into compliance.

They all want to live in a giant human beehive.

Jo

 

[justoffal]

The Biden created COVID variant pandemic of 2021​

President Biden recently mentioned we have a “pandemic of the unvaccinated” . Of course, that comment was made to divide the nation and bully the “unvaccinated” into accepting a government one-size fits all program ___ get vaccinated, even the millions of Americans who have acquired natural immunity.

But wait a minute. Is it not fair to say that the real pandemic now spreading across our country is one created by President Biden?

Keep in mind Biden has refused to compel hundreds of thousands of foreigners invading our southern border to be vaccinated. Instead, he has greeted them with open arms and has even provided transportation for them into our nation’s interior, COVID infected and all.

The frightening fact is, tens of thousands of those being released into our nation’s interior with Biden’s approval have come from a number of countries around the world including China, Bangladesh, Turkey, Egypt, Nigeria, Kenya, and various other countries including India where the Covid-19, Delta variant originated.

Considering we now have a Delta outbreak spreading across our country, and new variants popping up all the time, and Biden has been filling our country with tens of thousands of unvaccinated, and COVID infected foreigners from all parts of the world into our nation’s interior, is it not reasonable to say we now have a Biden created COVID variant pandemic in the United States?

JWK

The Democrat Party Leadership, once an advocate for hard working American citizens and their families, is now their worst nightmare.

It's more than reasonable it's an absolute fact.

 

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[Billy_Bob]

From the mountain of material I have read over the past two years, I am beginning to think the vaccine is probably a useful tool for those at high risk of seriously complications should they get covid, and that allowing nature to take its course with those at low risk of serious complications from covid, i.e., letting their body create a natural immunity to covid, may very well be the proper course of action, at least, the evidence seems to suggest this.

You sir have hit the nail on the head. Only those who would die from getting the disease should be getting the jab. Everyone else should be getting the bug and allowed to form natural immunities. The new Modified messenger RNA vaccines do not create long term immunities. The only way to protect the vulnerable is to get people to have long term immunities. The more jabs they push the longer it will take to get to natural herd immunity..

 

[Lesh]

A CDC study shows 74% of people infected in Massachusetts Covid outbreak were fully vaccinated


JUL 30 2021

• About three-fourths of people infected in a Massachusetts Covid-19 outbreak were fully vaccinated, according to new data published Friday by the CDC.
  
  
• The new data, published in the U.S. agency’s Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report, also found that fully vaccinated people who get infected carry as much of the virus in their nose as unvaccinated people.

So, 74% of the fully vaccinated getting covid seems to indicate the “vaccine” is not very effective. Not only that, but it seems that mother nature has a way of providing better protection to those who do get infected!

See Previous COVID-19 may cut risk of reinfection 84%

Apr 12, 2021

”People who had COVID-19 had an 84% lower risk of becoming reinfected and a 93% lower risk of symptomatic infection during 7 months of follow-up, according to findings from a large, multicenter study published late last week in The Lancet.”

The article goes on to point out "the findings of the authors suggest that infection and the development of an antibody response provides protection similar to or even better than currently used SARS-CoV-2 vaccines.”

From the mountain of material I have read over the past two years, I am beginning to think the vaccine is probably a useful tool for those at high risk of seriously complications should they get covid, and that allowing nature to take its course with those at low risk of serious complications from covid, i.e., letting their body create a natural immunity to covid, may very well be the proper course of action, at least, the evidence seems to suggest this.

One thing for certain, NYC's one size fits all _ No Vax, No Service _ is not only absurd, but destructive to the general welfare of the community.

JWK

The Democrat Party Leadership, once an advocate for hard working American citizens and their families, is now their worst nightmare.

This is probably true but I wouldn't recommend testing fate by purposely catching the virus to obtain this level of protection.

It does point getting the vaccination the importance of getting vaccinated even if you have had the virus though