NASA admits they can't send a human to Mars

[Syriusly]

Not surprised that the usual partisan assholes don't care about the subject of the thread- just about attacking those they disagree with.

you should have seen all the democrats that worked at the prison. these losers could not even get to work on time! couldn't fill out paperwork, couldn't keep track of con movements, nothing.

LOL- I am not surprised you have spent most of your life at the prison.

I spent a little over six years working there and had my fill of the worthless lying incompetent democrats who worked there. And you are typical of the democrat liars. You say you are not surprised I have spent most of my life in prison, when you have no clue what I have done - making you just another typical lying thug.

Oh so it wasn't most of your life. Just 6 years working there.

I guess that does explain why you turned out to be such a miserable excuse for a human being.

 

[Montrovant]

Basically, NASA finally admits it's all been wishful thinking. They're not even close to being able to do it, and they won't be close in the foreseeable future. While they say it's all about money, it's far more than money. They just don't have the tech.

NASA finally admits it doesn’t have the funding to land humans on Mars

It doesn't help that they'll miss the best launch window. There a two 'launch window cycles' at play. There's the more important window, which comes every 2.2 years, when Earth is close to "catching up" with Mars. Every Mars launch happens in that window. And there's a less strong 16-year cycle, based on the eccentricity of each planet's orbit. That reaches a minimum in 2018. We'll miss that window, then it won't get that good again until the 2030's. It's maybe a 20% difference in flight time, but if you're trying to have your people not die from radiation, minimizing trip time is vital.

So, realistically, nothing until the 2030s, at the earliest. Maybe Chang-Díaz will have his VASIMR plasma drive working by then, which would help considerably. If it works, it would have much more power than the present Hall thruster plasma drives, and get twice the "gas mileage".

NASA’s longshot bet on a revolutionary rocket may be about to pay off

And another thing, it's been found the Martian soil is so toxic, it will kill all bacteria. Any bacterial life on Mars will have to be buried deep. The new European robot probe will bring a 2-meter drill.

Mars covered in toxic chemicals that can wipe out living organisms, tests reveal

Nasa already has ships that can get to mars in 3 days.

3 days, huh?

Non-gravitational speeds.

And NASA is hiding the ships traveling at "non-gravitational speeds" how and why?

 

[miketx]

Basically, NASA finally admits it's all been wishful thinking. They're not even close to being able to do it, and they won't be close in the foreseeable future. While they say it's all about money, it's far more than money. They just don't have the tech.

NASA finally admits it doesn’t have the funding to land humans on Mars

It doesn't help that they'll miss the best launch window. There a two 'launch window cycles' at play. There's the more important window, which comes every 2.2 years, when Earth is close to "catching up" with Mars. Every Mars launch happens in that window. And there's a less strong 16-year cycle, based on the eccentricity of each planet's orbit. That reaches a minimum in 2018. We'll miss that window, then it won't get that good again until the 2030's. It's maybe a 20% difference in flight time, but if you're trying to have your people not die from radiation, minimizing trip time is vital.

So, realistically, nothing until the 2030s, at the earliest. Maybe Chang-Díaz will have his VASIMR plasma drive working by then, which would help considerably. If it works, it would have much more power than the present Hall thruster plasma drives, and get twice the "gas mileage".

NASA’s longshot bet on a revolutionary rocket may be about to pay off

And another thing, it's been found the Martian soil is so toxic, it will kill all bacteria. Any bacterial life on Mars will have to be buried deep. The new European robot probe will bring a 2-meter drill.

Mars covered in toxic chemicals that can wipe out living organisms, tests reveal

Nasa already has ships that can get to mars in 3 days.

3 days, huh?

Non-gravitational speeds.

And NASA is hiding the ships traveling at "non-gravitational speeds" how and why?

The public, particularly popcorn sucking loons such as you just cannot take it right now. You do not have the temerity of reason.Wait until they reveal the the extra-solar object coming this way....

 

[Pete7469]

That's okay, I'm patient.

These people are amazing. They'll get there.
.

I don't share your optimism to a degree. I'm sure a lot of them are amazing and can get it done. It's the cost that concerns me. Gov't workers decades ago were budget conscious, at least according to the relics I ran into while in gov't service. They said we throw more money away deliberately in order to maintain the budget than we do on actually accomplishing shit these days. In some cases I saw a lot of waste and camouflaged well paid welfare recipients whose only function was to interfere with other people's efforts to complete their objectives.

Maybe NASA isn't full of petty, self righteous assholes who undermine the efforts of other people for various reasons.

I doubt it.

 

[Mac1958]

That's okay, I'm patient.

These people are amazing. They'll get there.
.

I don't share your optimism to a degree. I'm sure a lot of them are amazing and can get it done. It's the cost that concerns me. Gov't workers decades ago were budget conscious, at least according to the relics I ran into while in gov't service. They said we throw more money away deliberately in order to maintain the budget than we do on actually accomplishing shit these days. In some cases I saw a lot of waste and camouflaged well paid welfare recipients whose only function was to interfere with other people's efforts to complete their objectives.

Maybe NASA isn't full of petty, self righteous assholes who undermine the efforts of other people for various reasons.

I doubt it.

Once we lose our curiosity and our humility, we're done.

It's already happened with our politics, I'd sure hate to see it happen with our science.

I'll even pay extra for it.
.

 

[rightwinger]

We have better things to do with our money

We have a wall to build

 

[Divine Wind]

Basically, NASA finally admits it's all been wishful thinking. They're not even close to being able to do it, and they won't be close in the foreseeable future. While they say it's all about money, it's far more than money. They just don't have the tech.

NASA finally admits it doesn’t have the funding to land humans on Mars

It doesn't help that they'll miss the best launch window. There a two 'launch window cycles' at play. There's the more important window, which comes every 2.2 years, when Earth is close to "catching up" with Mars. Every Mars launch happens in that window. And there's a less strong 16-year cycle, based on the eccentricity of each planet's orbit. That reaches a minimum in 2018. We'll miss that window, then it won't get that good again until the 2030's. It's maybe a 20% difference in flight time, but if you're trying to have your people not die from radiation, minimizing trip time is vital.

So, realistically, nothing until the 2030s, at the earliest. Maybe Chang-Díaz will have his VASIMR plasma drive working by then, which would help considerably. If it works, it would have much more power than the present Hall thruster plasma drives, and get twice the "gas mileage".

NASA’s longshot bet on a revolutionary rocket may be about to pay off

And another thing, it's been found the Martian soil is so toxic, it will kill all bacteria. Any bacterial life on Mars will have to be buried deep. The new European robot probe will bring a 2-meter drill.

Mars covered in toxic chemicals that can wipe out living organisms, tests reveal

Despite all the politicians trying to repeat JFK's moon speech, you are correct: We don't have the tech....and we won't ever have the tech unless we keep working on it. One way to do so is to look at an L-5 or Lunar colony. It's also a step to launching manned interplanetary missions.

 

[Divine Wind]

We have better things to do with our money...

Which is exactly what the Democrats said in killing the Apollo program.

 

[Pete7469]

Once we lose our curiosity and our humility, we're done.

It's already happened with our politics, I'd sure hate to see it happen with our science.

I'll even pay extra for it.
.

So will people with billions of dollars who feel the urge to get off this rock. If the right people are involved I have no doubt it can be done.

 

[Divine Wind]

Bezos will send first human sacrifices to Mars.

Science (and Freedom) isn't Free.

Lots of people have died seeking knowledge. It's a good way to go. Much better than sitting on a porch in a wheelchair sucking on an oxygen canister for 15 years then strapped to bed and filled with tubes for another 5.

 

[fncceo]

As incredible a feat as was the Apollo Program and man's bold adventure to the moon, it was done for all the wrong reasons.

The main mission of the Apollo Program was to beat Russia to the moon in the name of national pride. It was done in the cheapest, fastest and non-sustainable way. Once the Russians had been beaten to the moon, there was no reason to return.

The once proud and dedicated NASA no longer had a meaningful mission. This is why humans who were able to land on the moon haven't left low-earth orbit in over 40 years and have no plans to doing so for at least another 20. America has no manned space vehicles either in service or under construction. More money is being spent on 'Star Wars' movies than actually manned space flight.

NASA has declined into a useless appendage whose main mission in life is to fabricate global warming data. A federally funded Sierra Club.

 

[rightwinger]

We have better things to do with our money...

Which is exactly what the Democrats said in killing the Apollo program.

What is a man going to do on Mars that a thousand rovers cannot?

 

[rightwinger]

As incredible a feat as was the Apollo Program and man's bold adventure to the moon, it was done for all the wrong reasons.

The main mission of the Apollo Program was to beat Russia to the moon in the name of national pride. It was done in the cheapest, fastest and non-sustainable way. Once the Russians had been beaten to the moon, there was no reason to return.

The once proud and dedicated NASA no longer had a meaningful mission. This is why humans who were able to land on the moon haven't left low-earth orbit in over 40 years and have no plans to doing so for at least another 20. America has no manned space vehicles either in service or under construction. More money is being spent on 'Star Wars' movies than actually manned space flight.

NASA has declined into a useless appendage whose main mission in life is to fabricate global warming data. A federally funded Sierra Club.

NASA has done some neat stuff
Hubble Telescope viewing the far reaches of space
Probes on Mars
Flying outside our solar system
Flying by every planet

The future of space travel is R2D2 not Han Solo and Chewey

 

[miketx]

We have better things to do with our money

We have a wall to build

Have you ever noticed how you blow hot and cold all the time?

 

[fncceo]

As incredible a feat as was the Apollo Program and man's bold adventure to the moon, it was done for all the wrong reasons.

The main mission of the Apollo Program was to beat Russia to the moon in the name of national pride. It was done in the cheapest, fastest and non-sustainable way. Once the Russians had been beaten to the moon, there was no reason to return.

The once proud and dedicated NASA no longer had a meaningful mission. This is why humans who were able to land on the moon haven't left low-earth orbit in over 40 years and have no plans to doing so for at least another 20. America has no manned space vehicles either in service or under construction. More money is being spent on 'Star Wars' movies than actually manned space flight.

NASA has declined into a useless appendage whose main mission in life is to fabricate global warming data. A federally funded Sierra Club.

NASA has done some neat stuff
Hubble Telescope viewing the far reaches of space
Probes on Mars
Flying outside our solar system
Flying by every planet

The future of space travel is R2D2 not Han Solo and Chewey

What is the point of going into space if machines have all the fun ...?

 

[Divine Wind]

As incredible a feat as was the Apollo Program and man's bold adventure to the moon, it was done for all the wrong reasons.

The main mission of the Apollo Program was to beat Russia to the moon in the name of national pride. It was done in the cheapest, fastest and non-sustainable way. Once the Russians had been beaten to the moon, there was no reason to return.

The once proud and dedicated NASA no longer had a meaningful mission. This is why humans who were able to land on the moon haven't left low-earth orbit in over 40 years and have no plans to doing so for at least another 20. America has no manned space vehicles either in service or under construction. More money is being spent on 'Star Wars' movies than actually manned space flight.

NASA has declined into a useless appendage whose main mission in life is to fabricate global warming data. A federally funded Sierra Club.

Disagreed that NASA doesn't have a meaningful mission but readily agreed that the primary purpose of the first Moon mission was to beat the Russian. The secondary purposes are still highly relevant. The problem is that it's expensive and Democrats want to spend the money on entitlements and freebies. The latest one being "free college".

 

[miketx]

As incredible a feat as was the Apollo Program and man's bold adventure to the moon, it was done for all the wrong reasons.

The main mission of the Apollo Program was to beat Russia to the moon in the name of national pride. It was done in the cheapest, fastest and non-sustainable way. Once the Russians had been beaten to the moon, there was no reason to return.

The once proud and dedicated NASA no longer had a meaningful mission. This is why humans who were able to land on the moon haven't left low-earth orbit in over 40 years and have no plans to doing so for at least another 20. America has no manned space vehicles either in service or under construction. More money is being spent on 'Star Wars' movies than actually manned space flight.

NASA has declined into a useless appendage whose main mission in life is to fabricate global warming data. A federally funded Sierra Club.

NASA has done some neat stuff
Hubble Telescope viewing the far reaches of space
Probes on Mars
Flying outside our solar system
Flying by every planet

The future of space travel is R2D2 not Han Solo and Chewey

Nothing flies in space junior. Gravity pulls it.

 

[Divine Wind]

We have better things to do with our money...

Which is exactly what the Democrats said in killing the Apollo program.

What is a man going to do on Mars that a thousand rovers cannot?

Save the human race when a big rock hits Earth, a nuclear war starts or a supervolcano erupts.

 

[rightwinger]

As incredible a feat as was the Apollo Program and man's bold adventure to the moon, it was done for all the wrong reasons.

The main mission of the Apollo Program was to beat Russia to the moon in the name of national pride. It was done in the cheapest, fastest and non-sustainable way. Once the Russians had been beaten to the moon, there was no reason to return.

The once proud and dedicated NASA no longer had a meaningful mission. This is why humans who were able to land on the moon haven't left low-earth orbit in over 40 years and have no plans to doing so for at least another 20. America has no manned space vehicles either in service or under construction. More money is being spent on 'Star Wars' movies than actually manned space flight.

NASA has declined into a useless appendage whose main mission in life is to fabricate global warming data. A federally funded Sierra Club.

NASA has done some neat stuff
Hubble Telescope viewing the far reaches of space
Probes on Mars
Flying outside our solar system
Flying by every planet

The future of space travel is R2D2 not Han Solo and Chewey

Nothing flies in space junior. Gravity pulls it.

Gravity sucks

 

[rightwinger]

We have better things to do with our money...

Which is exactly what the Democrats said in killing the Apollo program.

What is a man going to do on Mars that a thousand rovers cannot?

Save the human race when a big rock hits Earth, a nuclear war starts or a supervolcano erupts.

We cannot logistically sustain a colony on a distant planet. The cost would be prohibitive for the value received
Might as well start a colony on the bottom of the ocean.....it is closer