Name calling is killing honest political debate.

[RoshawnMarkwees]

It’s not name-calling if the shoe fits. Accusations of fascism and communism are often analysis. Especially when directed toward democrats.

 

[Donald H]

The constant labeling of political opponents as fascists, communists/Marxists, or simply resorting to name calling is lazy and destructive. In today’s debates, these terms are used as blunt weapons to shut down meaningful conversation. This kind of name-calling doesn’t clarify anything; it doesn’t help us understand each other or solve real problems. Instead, it creates division, fuels tribalism, and reduces complex ideas to childish insults. Most people don’t fit these extreme labels, yet we act as if they do because it’s easier than doing the hard work of honest dialogue. Maybe it’s time to stop the nonsense and start talking openly about ideas, not just throw around labels that don’t belong.

There's no baseline on this forum on which to begin. Be your own example and I'll try to help. First of all stop the meaningless banter with PChic. It makes you unworthy of anything better.

 

[Anomalism]

There's no baseline on this forum on which to begin. Be your own example and I'll try to help. First of all stop the meaningless banter with PChic. It makes you unworthy of anything better.

I'll admit I have been very stubborn in those threads. I'm trying to get a point across. That's not the same thing I think. I'm not name calling and refusing to have a conversation. I am trying to do the opposite of that.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

It's always cute when posters who use MAGA as the ultimate insult whine that they are being called names when their political views are referred to as Marxist

Beat me to it

 

[Anomalism]

It’s not name-calling if the shoe fits.

If you’re using those terms to shut down dialogue instead of explaining actual ideas, then yes; it’s still name calling. Real political discussion means engaging with arguments, not just throwing around labels to flatten discussions.

 

[postman]

It's always cute when posters who use MAGA as the ultimate insult whine that they are being called names when their political views are referred to as Marxist

I hate to point out that MAGA (registered trademark) is what they call themselves.

 

[theHawk]

You can't enthusiastically support Donald Trump after what happened on Jan 6 and not be a Nazi.

It is literally that simple.

You can’t enthusiastically support Obama after he was outted as being gay and not be a bundle of sticks.

 

[Concerned American]

Nope....I would never vote for a politician who tried to steal an election and tried to get other politicians killed during a riot.

I'm a decent person who believes in democracy....and you are not. And it is literally that simple.

And in the same breath you advocate the assassination of a candidate. That would be called hypocrisy if your claim in the ^^^ first paragraph was true--but it isn't.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

If you’re using those terms to shut down dialogue instead of explaining actual ideas, then yes; it’s still name calling. Real political discussion means engaging with arguments, not just throwing around labels to flatten discussions.

And I call a spade a spade. That puts in on the other to prove otherwise. Analysis. Democrats are de facto Marxists.

 

[Concerned American]

I hate to point out that MAGA (registered trademark) is what they call themselves.

Proudly. Do you have a problem with Make America Great Again or maybe you're proud of WOKE (registered trademark)

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Or maybe it’s just time to stop talking to the other side at all. Thsts ny preference.

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Me too. Maybe when they're all in high security psychiatric treatment, we can have real discussions.


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[Donald H]

I'll admit I have been very stubborn in those threads. I'm trying to get a point across. That's not the same thing I think. I'm not name calling and refusing to have a conversation. I am trying to do the opposite of that.

Try this for a challenge. Post a reply to her that doesn't get an answer back.

 

[Zincwarrior]

One side calls their opposition, traitors, Nazis, liars, cultists, stupid yet brilliantly manipulative, and murderous pedophiles.

The other side...says the exact same thing.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

stop the meaningless banter with PChic.

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Nope. You're not the boss.




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[SassyIrishLass]

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Nope. You're not the boss.




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Donald sits there... stunned

 

[Cellblock2429]

Blaming one side for starting it doesn't get us anywhere. Political problems aren’t playground fights. It doesn’t matter who did what 160 years ago. What matters is what we’re doing now.

/----/ But when Crepitus blamed Trump, you dummied up.
Crepitus said:
Thanks tRump.

 

[Seymour Flops]

The problem is that one particular group of the most radical of leftists have taken over the discourse of Democrats and "not Democrats." Those radical leftists take positions that would not last more than a few exchanges of honest debate.

Just as a single example, a "right-wing extremist" might say:

"Children's minds are not developed enough to make decisions about what to have for lunch, much less decide what gender they are and what medical treatments they should get if their gender does not match their bodies. Therefore it is wrong for profit-seeking doctors to inject them with hormones to stop their puberties in preparation to make them more closely resemble the opposite sex after surgery to remove their healthy genitals and secondary sex organs."

There is no logical refutation of that claim, so the Democrat or "not Democrat" falls back on:

"Stop bullying children, you Fascist!"

But sometimes the egg comes before the chicken. For example, there is an argument to be made for TANF benefits. Children need to be fed, or they have no chance of getting out of the poverty that led their parents to apply for those benefits. Here, the typical leftie poster has been instructed through example by their media mentors that insults are the first go-to. Rather than explain how TANF might benefit taxpayers as well as the recipients, they simply say:

"You want to starve children, you MAGAt!"

People on the right tend to want honest debate, while people on the left do not.

 

[Dr. Phosphorous]

And in the same breath you advocate the assassination of a candidate. That would be called hypocrisy if your claim in the ^^^ first paragraph was true--but it isn't.

What the **** are you talking about, dolt?

 

[Billiejeens]

its what happens when people can't actually defend their positions.

I would agree with that, in theory.

 

[Anomalism]

/----/ But when Crepitus blamed Trump, you dummied up.
Crepitus said:
Thanks tRump.

That's more a sign of my lack of faith in that poster sir, not me playing favorites.