My son may have ADHD

[Againsheila]

there are several myths about adhd

there are several myths about adhd that have become quite popular", default", but still to this day remain unproven.

Dispel the myths. There are several myths about adhd that have become quite popular, but still to this day remain unproven. Sadly, we continue to hear that parents are being told these same myths over and over again. Simply put, these myths are misinformation. Misinformation can cause confusion and frustration, and if heard enough times can cause a person to make the wrong choices.

Have you been told?

1. That there is an actual test to detect if your child has add/adhd?

answer: There is no test in existence to determine the diagnosis of adhd. there is no objective test (blood, urine, bodily fluids, bile, or brain) that a doctor can use as an indicator of add/adhd.

How we know this: In 1998 the national institute of health held a conference on adhd. At the end of this conference they issued this statement: “….we do not have an independent, valid test for adhd, and there are no data to indicate that adhd is due to a brain malfunction.”

2. Brain/pet scans as tests?

have you been told that there is a brain/pet scan that can determine that you child has adhd, but that this scan is so expensive that it is not affordable by the majority of people, and that insurance companies do not pay for it?

answer: There is no exact brain/pet scan that determines conclusively that a child has this disorder.

how we know this: On november 16-18, 1998, at the national institute of health consensus conference on adhd, it was revealed that the on-average, 10% brain atrophy, seen in adhd subjects, on mri (structural) scans, was due, not to the never-validated disease, adhd, but to the long-term methylphenidate/amphetamine “treatment” on all of the adhd subjects.”

there are several myths about adhd

okay, my information is older than this therefore, perhaps i'm wrong. There is nothing in the above that states adhd doesn't exist, and it ignores completely the blind studies where the children do better on the drug than off.

and now you reference more in-linked studies...there are studies that say steroid users run faster in your world it would seem logical to then assume before the drugs they had a medical muscular disorder...if you want to make the argument that there is nothing wrong with a little bit of speed to stay focused and get the job done you might have a case..but there is no case for ADHD is a brain disorder

The difference is that with the drug, it only works if the child IS ADHD. That's why the blind study. So the teachers nor the parents or even the doctor know if they are getting the drug that week or the placebo. After the test, they determine which week they did best, if it matches up with the drug then they are ADHD. Some people try the test again to be sure, I have no problems with that. My son couldn't sit still for 5 minutes without the drug when he was in 1st grade. I took him off it in 3rd grade due to side effects. There are other things to do to help, like behavioral modification and making sure they get plenty of exercise during recess, etc. My son's school didn't know and didn't suspect anything when I took him off the drug but boy were they made when a year and a 1/2 later they found out he was no longer on the drug. I was a pariah as far as they were concerned. And suddenly my son started having behavior problems again, problems he didn't have when they thought he was on the drug. I ended up removing him from that school and homeschooling him for a few years.

BTW, when my son was in 7th grade, I took him to a private psychiatrist and he was diagnosed with asperger's syndrome. Something I suspected back when he was in 2nd grade but of course, because I suggested it, he couldn't possibly have it. Oh, and hyperactivity, he still had that. So did my other Autistic son. For him, we paid a lot of money for a drug patch to keep him from being so hyper because it wasn't designed for that reason and the insurance company refused to pay for it even with a letter from his pediatric neurologist.

So we know Hyperactivity exists. Is it just the ADD part of it you believe is made up?

 

[eots]

okay, my information is older than this therefore, perhaps i'm wrong. There is nothing in the above that states adhd doesn't exist, and it ignores completely the blind studies where the children do better on the drug than off.

and now you reference more in-linked studies...there are studies that say steroid users run faster in your world it would seem logical to then assume before the drugs they had a medical muscular disorder...if you want to make the argument that there is nothing wrong with a little bit of speed to stay focused and get the job done you might have a case..but there is no case for ADHD is a brain disorder

The difference is that with the drug, it only works if the child IS ADHD. That's why the blind study. So the teachers nor the parents or even the doctor know if they are getting the drug that week or the placebo. After the test, they determine which week they did best, if it matches up with the drug then they are ADHD. Some people try the test again to be sure, I have no problems with that. My son couldn't sit still for 5 minutes without the drug when he was in 1st grade. I took him off it in 3rd grade due to side effects. There are other things to do to help, like behavioral modification and making sure they get plenty of exercise during recess, etc. My son's school didn't know and didn't suspect anything when I took him off the drug but boy were they made when a year and a 1/2 later they found out he was no longer on the drug. I was a pariah as far as they were concerned. And suddenly my son started having behavior problems again, problems he didn't have when they thought he was on the drug. I ended up removing him from that school and homeschooling him for a few years.

BTW, when my son was in 7th grade, I took him to a private psychiatrist and he was diagnosed with asperger's syndrome. Something I suspected back when he was in 2nd grade but of course, because I suggested it, he couldn't possibly have it. Oh, and hyperactivity, he still had that. So did my other Autistic son. For him, we paid a lot of money for a drug patch to keep him from being so hyper because it wasn't designed for that reason and the insurance company refused to pay for it even with a letter from his pediatric neurologist.

So we know Hyperactivity exists. Is it just the ADD part of it you believe is made up?

the part that is made up is that it is a brain disorder..my sons so called hyperactivity..that was a problem in school is a gift in the real world..he often works 6 days a week..he comes home after a full days work at 3 has the house clean dinner ready for his girlfriend getting home ..then he ready to go out or work on a project..he will talk to anyone anywhere and always has something to say.. employers love him..all the qualities he is praised for his outgoing ways his out the box thinking, his humor.his high energy and talkativeness..his mufti-tasking..are all the traits they called his symptoms in a school setting

 

[eots]

aspbergers became the next big fad diagnosis after ADHD...

 

[eots]

Asperger's By Proxy

This article examines a troubling aspect of contemporary clinical psychology — it examines how parents control their children by pretending that psychology is more evidence-based and authoritative than it is. The ultimate victims are the children, who may enter adult life believing that authority, even faux authority, ranks higher than scientific evidence. In today's world, such a belief represents a terrible handicap.

In my other articles , example "The Myth of Mental Illness", I show that ethical considerations and the complexity of human behavior prevent theoretical psychology from performing the kinds of experiments that would place clinical psychology on a firm evidentiary footing, and that as a result clinical psychology must get along without a scientific grounding in testable, falsifiable theoretical principles. I would like to begin by restating that argument through a comparison of physics, mainstream medicine, and clinical psychology.

Asperger's By Proxy

 

[Againsheila]

and now you reference more in-linked studies...there are studies that say steroid users run faster in your world it would seem logical to then assume before the drugs they had a medical muscular disorder...if you want to make the argument that there is nothing wrong with a little bit of speed to stay focused and get the job done you might have a case..but there is no case for ADHD is a brain disorder

The difference is that with the drug, it only works if the child IS ADHD. That's why the blind study. So the teachers nor the parents or even the doctor know if they are getting the drug that week or the placebo. After the test, they determine which week they did best, if it matches up with the drug then they are ADHD. Some people try the test again to be sure, I have no problems with that. My son couldn't sit still for 5 minutes without the drug when he was in 1st grade. I took him off it in 3rd grade due to side effects. There are other things to do to help, like behavioral modification and making sure they get plenty of exercise during recess, etc. My son's school didn't know and didn't suspect anything when I took him off the drug but boy were they made when a year and a 1/2 later they found out he was no longer on the drug. I was a pariah as far as they were concerned. And suddenly my son started having behavior problems again, problems he didn't have when they thought he was on the drug. I ended up removing him from that school and homeschooling him for a few years.

BTW, when my son was in 7th grade, I took him to a private psychiatrist and he was diagnosed with asperger's syndrome. Something I suspected back when he was in 2nd grade but of course, because I suggested it, he couldn't possibly have it. Oh, and hyperactivity, he still had that. So did my other Autistic son. For him, we paid a lot of money for a drug patch to keep him from being so hyper because it wasn't designed for that reason and the insurance company refused to pay for it even with a letter from his pediatric neurologist.

So we know Hyperactivity exists. Is it just the ADD part of it you believe is made up?

the part that is made up is that it is a brain disorder..my sons so called hyperactivity..that was a problem in school is a gift in the real world..he often works 6 days a week..he comes home after a full days work at 3 has the house clean dinner ready for his girlfriend getting home ..then he ready to go out or work on a project..he will talk to anyone anywhere and always has something to say.. employers love him..all the qualities he is praised for his outgoing ways his out the box thinking, his humor.his high energy and talkativeness..his mufti-tasking..are all the traits they called his symptoms
in a school setting

You said it yourself, it was a problem in school. He's adjusted and he's living with it in the real world, that doesn't make it less of a brain disorder. He's turned it into a gift but few people can get jobs if they can't get an education and they can't get an education if they can't sit still enough to learn.

Guess what? Savant-ism is a neurological disorder too. Do you know what that is? It's what gives certain people talents like photographic memories, etc. The fact that it's a good thing doesn't make it less of a brain disorder.

Interesting that you've gone from arguing that it doesn't exist to claiming it's not a disorder.....

 

[eots]

What's A Mental Disorder? Even Experts Can't Agree
"Epidemic of Asperger's." Frances edited the last edition of the DSM, and he's also the new DSM's most prominent critic.

Frances is the one who put the word Asperger's in the DSM in the first place, thereby making it an official mental disorder.

In the editions before Frances was editor, there was an entry for autism, but it was defined by severe symptoms. Frances says doctors felt the diagnosis for autism didn't cover a more mild disorder they were actually encountering.nd for Frances, the lesson of these experiences is clear. Once you put a new diagnosis in the DSM, there is no controlling what will happen to it. So there's only one thing to do:
"And so kids who previously might have been considered on the boundary, eccentric, socially shy, but bright and doing well in school would mainstream [into] regular classes," Frances says. "Now if they get the diagnosis of Asperger's disorder, [they] get into a special program where they may get $50,000 a year worth of educational services."

"Anticipate the worst. If something can be misused, it will be misused," Frances says. "If diagnosis can lead to overdiagnosis and overtreatment, that will happen. So you need to be very, very cautious in making changes that may open the door for a flood of fad diagnoses."

As far as Frances is concerned, the new DSM is proposing too many diagnoses that are written in too broad a way, meaning that ultimately a huge number of new people will be categorized as mentally ill.

What's A Mental Disorder? Even Experts Can't Agree : NPR

 

[eots]

The difference is that with the drug, it only works if the child IS ADHD. That's why the blind study. So the teachers nor the parents or even the doctor know if they are getting the drug that week or the placebo. After the test, they determine which week they did best, if it matches up with the drug then they are ADHD. Some people try the test again to be sure, I have no problems with that. My son couldn't sit still for 5 minutes without the drug when he was in 1st grade. I took him off it in 3rd grade due to side effects. There are other things to do to help, like behavioral modification and making sure they get plenty of exercise during recess, etc. My son's school didn't know and didn't suspect anything when I took him off the drug but boy were they made when a year and a 1/2 later they found out he was no longer on the drug. I was a pariah as far as they were concerned. And suddenly my son started having behavior problems again, problems he didn't have when they thought he was on the drug. I ended up removing him from that school and homeschooling him for a few years.

BTW, when my son was in 7th grade, I took him to a private psychiatrist and he was diagnosed with asperger's syndrome. Something I suspected back when he was in 2nd grade but of course, because I suggested it, he couldn't possibly have it. Oh, and hyperactivity, he still had that. So did my other Autistic son. For him, we paid a lot of money for a drug patch to keep him from being so hyper because it wasn't designed for that reason and the insurance company refused to pay for it even with a letter from his pediatric neurologist.

So we know Hyperactivity exists. Is it just the ADD part of it you believe is made up?

the part that is made up is that it is a brain disorder..my sons so called hyperactivity..that was a problem in school is a gift in the real world..he often works 6 days a week..he comes home after a full days work at 3 has the house clean dinner ready for his girlfriend getting home ..then he ready to go out or work on a project..he will talk to anyone anywhere and always has something to say.. employers love him..all the qualities he is praised for his outgoing ways his out the box thinking, his humor.his high energy and talkativeness..his mufti-tasking..are all the traits they called his symptoms
in a school setting

You said it yourself, it was a problem in school. He's adjusted and he's living with it in the real world, that doesn't make it less of a brain disorder. He's turned it into a gift but few people can get jobs if they can't get an education and they can't get an education if they can't sit still enough to learn.

Guess what? Savant-ism is a neurological disorder too. Do you know what that is? It's what gives certain people talents like photographic memories, etc. The fact that it's a good thing doesn't make it less of a brain disorder.

Interesting that you've gone from arguing that it doesn't exist to claiming it's not a disorder.....

it does not exists as a medical condition..it is a non-existent brain disorder
and i have not said otherwise..there a personality we describe with words like hyper..of course all kinds of complex personalities exists..but they are not medical conditions

 

[bayoubill]

I've always had trouble fitting into the various expectations of others...

I was a spacy kid growing up... parents and school folks kept telling me "we know you can do better"...


here I am now at 60 years old...

been a bumpy road...


last few years, I've had folks tell me they think I may have been "ADD" all along, or "high-functioning autistic"... or sumpin' else along those same lines...

back 50 years ago, if they had a fancy name for the way I was, they'd a' prolly called it sumpin' like "lazy white boy syndrome"...

 

[Si modo]

I had a meeting with my son's teacher's and school psychologist, and they recommended I take him to a pediatrician that specializes in ADHD etc to be tested for ADHD. Many of you have might already know I have had my son in special programs since before he was two, and that they had diagnosed him with a sensory perception disorder when all this first started.

II have read some on it, but not a lot. The whole thing is scary at this point, for one I have no clue how I feel about medication, how to treat it, and even the diagnoses of ADHD. Feedback, recommendations, stories would be great. Thanks.

I'm sorry.

Here's what I would do...that's all I'm saying, and I could be totally wrong if I were to do it. Knowing that teachers LOVE chemically restraining children who cause them more work than they would prefer, the LAST thing I would do is take your cutie to the MD they recommend.

Talk to your boy's pediatrician for a reference for an examination, if you have good confidence in your pediatrician. If not, do some research on line, talk to trusted friends and neighbors, etc.

But, no; I would not take him to the 'specialist" the school recommends...last thing I would do.

 

[Katzndogz]

and now you reference more in-linked studies...there are studies that say steroid users run faster in your world it would seem logical to then assume before the drugs they had a medical muscular disorder...if you want to make the argument that there is nothing wrong with a little bit of speed to stay focused and get the job done you might have a case..but there is no case for ADHD is a brain disorder

The difference is that with the drug, it only works if the child IS ADHD. That's why the blind study. So the teachers nor the parents or even the doctor know if they are getting the drug that week or the placebo. After the test, they determine which week they did best, if it matches up with the drug then they are ADHD. Some people try the test again to be sure, I have no problems with that. My son couldn't sit still for 5 minutes without the drug when he was in 1st grade. I took him off it in 3rd grade due to side effects. There are other things to do to help, like behavioral modification and making sure they get plenty of exercise during recess, etc. My son's school didn't know and didn't suspect anything when I took him off the drug but boy were they made when a year and a 1/2 later they found out he was no longer on the drug. I was a pariah as far as they were concerned. And suddenly my son started having behavior problems again, problems he didn't have when they thought he was on the drug. I ended up removing him from that school and homeschooling him for a few years.

BTW, when my son was in 7th grade, I took him to a private psychiatrist and he was diagnosed with asperger's syndrome. Something I suspected back when he was in 2nd grade but of course, because I suggested it, he couldn't possibly have it. Oh, and hyperactivity, he still had that. So did my other Autistic son. For him, we paid a lot of money for a drug patch to keep him from being so hyper because it wasn't designed for that reason and the insurance company refused to pay for it even with a letter from his pediatric neurologist.

So we know Hyperactivity exists. Is it just the ADD part of it you believe is made up?

the part that is made up is that it is a brain disorder..my sons so called hyperactivity..that was a problem in school is a gift in the real world..he often works 6 days a week..he comes home after a full days work at 3 has the house clean dinner ready for his girlfriend getting home ..then he ready to go out or work on a project..he will talk to anyone anywhere and always has something to say.. employers love him..all the qualities he is praised for his outgoing ways his out the box thinking, his humor.his high energy and talkativeness..his mufti-tasking..are all the traits they called his symptoms in a school setting

Normalcy is a mental disorder. Especially in boys. Boys are not independent. They are actually dysfunctional girls and must be medicated to act more like girls.

Your experience is quite common. The ones who need to be drugged are often the most imaginative and creative. They are the hardest workers. But then being a "workaholic" is also a mental disorder that must be drugged out. Children that like to run or climb are hyperactive. Those that use creative ways of problem solving have ADD.

If you are a workaholic who likes to work. Never fear. There are drugs that can make you as lazy as the next guy.

The TRUTH About Workaholics | CareerCast.com

 

[Samson]

the part that is made up is that it is a brain disorder..my sons so called hyperactivity..that was a problem in school is a gift in the real world..he often works 6 days a week..he comes home after a full days work at 3 has the house clean dinner ready for his girlfriend getting home ..then he ready to go out or work on a project..he will talk to anyone anywhere and always has something to say.. employers love him..all the qualities he is praised for his outgoing ways his out the box thinking, his humor.his high energy and talkativeness..his mufti-tasking..are all the traits they called his symptoms
in a school setting

You said it yourself, it was a problem in school. He's adjusted and he's living with it in the real world, that doesn't make it less of a brain disorder. He's turned it into a gift but few people can get jobs if they can't get an education and they can't get an education if they can't sit still enough to learn.

Guess what? Savant-ism is a neurological disorder too. Do you know what that is? It's what gives certain people talents like photographic memories, etc. The fact that it's a good thing doesn't make it less of a brain disorder.

Interesting that you've gone from arguing that it doesn't exist to claiming it's not a disorder.....

it does not exists as a medical condition..it is a non-existent brain disorder
and i have not said otherwise..there a personality we describe with words like hyper..of course all kinds of complex personalities exists..but they are not medical conditions

For something that does not exists as a medical condition it certainly has the attention of the CDC.

As you have no credentials to know anymore about the subject than the ballon of hot air that is your credablity, whether or not You believe it is a medical condition is irrelevant.

 

[Samson]

The difference is that with the drug, it only works if the child IS ADHD. That's why the blind study. So the teachers nor the parents or even the doctor know if they are getting the drug that week or the placebo. After the test, they determine which week they did best, if it matches up with the drug then they are ADHD. Some people try the test again to be sure, I have no problems with that. My son couldn't sit still for 5 minutes without the drug when he was in 1st grade. I took him off it in 3rd grade due to side effects. There are other things to do to help, like behavioral modification and making sure they get plenty of exercise during recess, etc. My son's school didn't know and didn't suspect anything when I took him off the drug but boy were they made when a year and a 1/2 later they found out he was no longer on the drug. I was a pariah as far as they were concerned. And suddenly my son started having behavior problems again, problems he didn't have when they thought he was on the drug. I ended up removing him from that school and homeschooling him for a few years.

BTW, when my son was in 7th grade, I took him to a private psychiatrist and he was diagnosed with asperger's syndrome. Something I suspected back when he was in 2nd grade but of course, because I suggested it, he couldn't possibly have it. Oh, and hyperactivity, he still had that. So did my other Autistic son. For him, we paid a lot of money for a drug patch to keep him from being so hyper because it wasn't designed for that reason and the insurance company refused to pay for it even with a letter from his pediatric neurologist.

So we know Hyperactivity exists. Is it just the ADD part of it you believe is made up?

the part that is made up is that it is a brain disorder..my sons so called hyperactivity..that was a problem in school is a gift in the real world..he often works 6 days a week..he comes home after a full days work at 3 has the house clean dinner ready for his girlfriend getting home ..then he ready to go out or work on a project..he will talk to anyone anywhere and always has something to say.. employers love him..all the qualities he is praised for his outgoing ways his out the box thinking, his humor.his high energy and talkativeness..his mufti-tasking..are all the traits they called his symptoms in a school setting

Normalcy is a mental disorder. Especially in boys. Boys are not independent. They are actually dysfunctional girls and must be medicated to act more like girls.

Your experience is quite common. The ones who need to be drugged are often the most imaginative and creative. They are the hardest workers. But then being a "workaholic" is also a mental disorder that must be drugged out. Children that like to run or climb are hyperactive. Those that use creative ways of problem solving have ADD.

If you are a workaholic who likes to work. Never fear. There are drugs that can make you as lazy as the next guy.

The TRUTH About Workaholics | CareerCast.com

This is certainly true in MANY diagnosis of ADHD, but it does not mean ADHD does not exist.

 

[eots]

You said it yourself, it was a problem in school. He's adjusted and he's living with it in the real world, that doesn't make it less of a brain disorder. He's turned it into a gift but few people can get jobs if they can't get an education and they can't get an education if they can't sit still enough to learn.

Guess what? Savant-ism is a neurological disorder too. Do you know what that is? It's what gives certain people talents like photographic memories, etc. The fact that it's a good thing doesn't make it less of a brain disorder.

Interesting that you've gone from arguing that it doesn't exist to claiming it's not a disorder.....

it does not exists as a medical condition..it is a non-existent brain disorder
and i have not said otherwise..there a personality we describe with words like hyper..of course all kinds of complex personalities exists..but they are not medical conditions

For something that does not exists as a medical condition it certainly has the attention of the CDC.

As you have no credentials to know anymore about the subject than the ballon of hot air that is your credablity, whether or not You believe it is a medical condition is irrelevant.

and 40 years a go they all knowingly drove ice picks in peoples brains ,listed homosexuality as a neurological disorder and appeal to authority types like yourself chimed very much the same responses to he critics as you do now

 

[Samson]

it does not exists as a medical condition..it is a non-existent brain disorder
and i have not said otherwise..there a personality we describe with words like hyper..of course all kinds of complex personalities exists..but they are not medical conditions

For something that does not exists as a medical condition it certainly has the attention of the CDC.

As you have no credentials to know anymore about the subject than the ballon of hot air that is your credablity, whether or not You believe it is a medical condition is irrelevant.

and 40 years a go they all knowingly drove ice picks in peoples brains ,listed homosexuality as a neurological disorder and appeal to authority types like yourself chimed very much the same responses to he critics as you do now

Scarecrow much?

Try to focus on the subject......interesting this seems to be your issue in a thread about ADHD.

 

[eots]

For something that does not exists as a medical condition it certainly has the attention of the CDC.

As you have no credentials to know anymore about the subject than the ballon of hot air that is your credablity, whether or not You believe it is a medical condition is irrelevant.

and 40 years a go they all knowingly drove ice picks in peoples brains ,listed homosexuality as a neurological disorder and appeal to authority types like yourself chimed very much the same responses to he critics as you do now

Scarecrow much?

Try to focus on the subject......interesting this seems to be your issue in a thread about ADHD.

you where the one that invoked the value of psychatic crendenitials I am just putting that in prespective with some simple facts..something you clearly have difficulty with

 

[Samson]

and 40 years a go they all knowingly drove ice picks in peoples brains ,listed homosexuality as a neurological disorder and appeal to authority types like yourself chimed very much the same responses to he critics as you do now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHKHZ9Q5Wf0

Scarecrow much?

Try to focus on the subject......interesting this seems to be your issue in a thread about ADHD.

you where the one that invoked the value of psychatic crendenitials I am just putting that in prespective with some simple facts..something you clearly have difficulty with

Ok,


I agree with your "psychatic credentials"

 

[Si modo]

Scarecrow much?

Try to focus on the subject......interesting this seems to be your issue in a thread about ADHD.

you where the one that invoked the value of psychatic crendenitials I am just putting that in prespective with some simple facts..something you clearly have difficulty with

Ok,


I agree with your "psychatic credentials"

ADHD Is Over-Diagnosed, Experts Say

Mar. 30, 2012 — What experts and the public have already long suspected is now supported by representative data collected by researchers at Ruhr-Universität Bochum (RUB) and University of Basel: ADHD, attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, is over-diagnosed. The study showed that child and adolescent psychotherapists and psychiatrists tend to give a diagnosis based on heuristics, unclear rules of thumb, rather than adhering to recognized diagnostic criteria. Boys in particular are substantially more often misdiagnosed compared to girls.

....​

Science Daily

 

[Dante]

The fact that this thread has gone on this long has me rethinking my opinion of ADHD

who can deny the evidence right before our very own eyes?

 

[Samson]

you where the one that invoked the value of psychatic crendenitials I am just putting that in prespective with some simple facts..something you clearly have difficulty with

Ok,


I agree with your "psychatic credentials"

ADHD Is Over-Diagnosed, Experts Say

Mar. 30, 2012 — What experts and the public have already long suspected is now supported by representative data collected by researchers at Ruhr-Universität Bochum (RUB) and University of Basel: ADHD, attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, is over-diagnosed. The study showed that child and adolescent psychotherapists and psychiatrists tend to give a diagnosis based on heuristics, unclear rules of thumb, rather than adhering to recognized diagnostic criteria. Boys in particular are substantially more often misdiagnosed compared to girls.

....​

Science Daily

No one ever disputed that it was over diagnosed.

What was in dispute was the moronic position that it simply did not exist.

it does not exists as a medical condition..it is a non-existent brain disorder
and i have not said otherwise..there a personality we describe with words like hyper..of course all kinds of complex personalities exists..but they are not medical conditions

 

[Si modo]

Ok,


I agree with your "psychatic credentials"

ADHD Is Over-Diagnosed, Experts Say

Mar. 30, 2012 — What experts and the public have already long suspected is now supported by representative data collected by researchers at Ruhr-Universität Bochum (RUB) and University of Basel: ADHD, attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, is over-diagnosed. The study showed that child and adolescent psychotherapists and psychiatrists tend to give a diagnosis based on heuristics, unclear rules of thumb, rather than adhering to recognized diagnostic criteria. Boys in particular are substantially more often misdiagnosed compared to girls.

....​

Science Daily

No one ever disputed that it was over diagnosed.

What was in dispute was the moronic position that it simply did not exist.

it does not exists as a medical condition..it is a non-existent brain disorder
and i have not said otherwise..there a personality we describe with words like hyper..of course all kinds of complex personalities exists..but they are not medical conditions

K. Gotcha.