My Solution to Address North Korea Provocations

[frigidweirdo]

We can't sit on our hands like Obama did for (8) years. Under his watch he allowed Iran and NK to continue their development of nuclear weapons thus putting America in harms way.

I have an idea...

We respond militarily

But first, we must take steps to mitigate loss of life in South Korea.

If NK launches, or conduct other ballistic/nuclear test, our order of progression should be;

1- We officially notify North Korea of our intent to destroy their assets relative to nuclear and ballistic development. Our response will be carried out if they conduct (1) more missile launch or test of any kind

2- We start the immediate evacuation (voluntary) of the South Korea. Yes, this will be a logistic nightmare beyond all compare. Hopefully, other Nations (certainly) our allies will assist in this massive operation.

3- Move our military troops off the Korean peninsula to an area where our rapid response, via airborne paratroopers, can be delivered. Ground invasion to follow

4- Move multiple Naval battle groups to the area for a massive conventional strike

We have to do something. The result of inaction WILL cost more lives than a pre-emptive strike.

We are at the crossroads and history will be our judge

-Geaux

So, are you willing to go to war with China? Yes or no would do, but an explanation of why, would do better.

I am definitely am not willing to take a nuke on the chin within the United States

-Geaux

So why does North Korea want to nuke the US? Why not Mexico? Why not Australia? Why the US?

Maybe this is a lesson for America to learn, if you don't go around annoying people, then they won't want to nuke you.

Anyway, North Korea almost certainly wants nukes to stop the US having the capabilities to invade North Korea.

Move to NK commie lover. Kim would welcome you

-Geaux

Which countries will go to war with Trump?

China doesn't want war, yet. It's not ready, but it would fight if it had to, and North Korea is right on its border, it's a long way from the US.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Is this not the job of the CIA? Assassinate Lil Kim and make it look like an accident or an inside job? Or is the CIA too busy spying on Americans in America

Thanks to Jimmy Carter and Frank Church, they don't do that anymore.

 

[flacaltenn]

We can't sit on our hands like Obama did for (8) years. Under his watch he allowed Iran and NK to continue their development of nuclear weapons thus putting America in harms way.

I have an idea...

We respond militarily

But first, we must take steps to mitigate loss of life in South Korea.

If NK launches, or conduct other ballistic/nuclear test, our order of progression should be;

1- We officially notify North Korea of our intent to destroy their assets relative to nuclear and ballistic development. Our response will be carried out if they conduct (1) more missile launch or test of any kind

2- We start the immediate evacuation (voluntary) of the South Korea. Yes, this will be a logistic nightmare beyond all compare. Hopefully, other Nations (certainly) our allies will assist in this massive operation.

3- Move our military troops off the Korean peninsula to an area where our rapid response, via airborne paratroopers, can be delivered. Ground invasion to follow

4- Move multiple Naval battle groups to the area for a massive conventional strike

We have to do something. The result of inaction WILL cost more lives than a pre-emptive strike.

We are at the crossroads and history will be our judge

-Geaux

North Korea has developed nuclear capabilities as a deterrent, as has every other country with nukes. What our allies in the area, South Korea and Japan, want is for US to stop provoking THEM further with increased saber rattling on our side of the border. This fuels NK's determination to protect itself. NK is not so unreasonable as to carry out a nuclear strike, since it would be suicide. US, Russia, China, Great Britain, France, Israel, India and Pakistan all have nuclear weapons. Are we having the vapors over any of them?
I think it would be wonderful if the nations of the world, working in unison, could dissuade NK from proceeding with its nuclear weapons program. I fear it's too late for that and what to do now is to approach them as a country that does, indeed, have nukes. Bring them back into the global discussion; show them how growing their nation's prosperity would be more helpful than fostering global destruction.

Does any of this SOUND like a nation who is simply developing "a deterrent"?? Or that they can be "brought back into the Global discussion"?? You remember the top finding of the 9/11 commission? The the US IGNORED a declaration of war on us. You go dismiss this maniac and his starving Millions..

North Korea threatens US and S Korea with nuclear strikes - BBC News


North Korea has threatened "indiscriminate" nuclear strikes on the US and South Korea as the two begin their largest ever military drills.
The exercises, Key Resolve and Foal Eagle, are an annual event and always generate tension.
The order for a "pre-emptive nuclear strike of justice" was made in a statement put out by Pyongyang.
Such rhetoric is not uncommon, and experts doubt the North's ability to put nuclear warheads on its missiles.
North Korea says it sees the annual US-South Korean war games as a rehearsal for invasion. Last year, it threatened to turn Washington into a "sea of fire".

 

[mudwhistle]

N. Korea is using their nukes to blackmail other countries into giving them stuff.
It's the only reason they have them .
We aren't a threat to them.
Now, imagine what will happen when Iran gets nukes. They can shut down oil coming from the Middle-East. The Sauds control 40% of our refining capabilities. America would become a 3rd world country in a matter of weeks.
Little Kim only has one course of action. Blackmail us into electing a Democrat that will take it in the ass and give him anything he wants.

If it;s a matter of giving things to our enemies, Trump is the one asking for a list of things he can give Russia. No reason to believe he wouldn't give the same stuff to Korea if they agreed to do a few business deals with him.
A Trump-Putin meeting is happening next week in Germany
Report: Trump Wants List of 'Deliverables' to Offer Putin

Yeah.....Trump is also taking millions in donations from Russian interests and getting a cool mil for giving a speech.....just lke Hillary...

You idiots will believe anything the fake news tells you.

I'll wait until after the investigation to decide how much Trump is getting from Russia, but I'm pretty sure it's a lot.

CNN already admitted that the Russian collusion story was fake news.

Wake the **** up.

No. They did not.

Yes they did. They got it all on video...

 

[Geaux4it]

We can't sit on our hands like Obama did for (8) years. Under his watch he allowed Iran and NK to continue their development of nuclear weapons thus putting America in harms way.

I have an idea...

We respond militarily

But first, we must take steps to mitigate loss of life in South Korea.

If NK launches, or conduct other ballistic/nuclear test, our order of progression should be;

1- We officially notify North Korea of our intent to destroy their assets relative to nuclear and ballistic development. Our response will be carried out if they conduct (1) more missile launch or test of any kind

2- We start the immediate evacuation (voluntary) of the South Korea. Yes, this will be a logistic nightmare beyond all compare. Hopefully, other Nations (certainly) our allies will assist in this massive operation.

3- Move our military troops off the Korean peninsula to an area where our rapid response, via airborne paratroopers, can be delivered. Ground invasion to follow

4- Move multiple Naval battle groups to the area for a massive conventional strike

We have to do something. The result of inaction WILL cost more lives than a pre-emptive strike.

We are at the crossroads and history will be our judge

-Geaux

Do you think we can beat Russia china the middle East and North Korea?

You seem to forget our allies hate Trump. Don't look for a coalition of the willing especially after bush lied the rest of the world into Iraq.

This is what Republicans don't seem to realize. We're sort of on our own right now. That's what happens when we elect freaks like bush and Trump.

No its not. Whats getting ready to happen to Korea is most important. Couldn't count on that panty waste Obama to stop any incoming nukes

-Geaux

 

[LoneLaugher]

If it;s a matter of giving things to our enemies, Trump is the one asking for a list of things he can give Russia. No reason to believe he wouldn't give the same stuff to Korea if they agreed to do a few business deals with him.
A Trump-Putin meeting is happening next week in Germany
Report: Trump Wants List of 'Deliverables' to Offer Putin

Yeah.....Trump is also taking millions in donations from Russian interests and getting a cool mil for giving a speech.....just lke Hillary...

You idiots will believe anything the fake news tells you.

I'll wait until after the investigation to decide how much Trump is getting from Russia, but I'm pretty sure it's a lot.

CNN already admitted that the Russian collusion story was fake news.

Wake the **** up.

No. They did not.

Yes they did. They got it all on video...

CNN produced a video where they said the Russian collusion story, which is under investigation which has yet to be concluded, was fake news?

Come on Mud, post it.

 

[Geaux4it]

We can't sit on our hands like Obama did for (8) years. Under his watch he allowed Iran and NK to continue their development of nuclear weapons thus putting America in harms way.

I have an idea...

We respond militarily

But first, we must take steps to mitigate loss of life in South Korea.

If NK launches, or conduct other ballistic/nuclear test, our order of progression should be;

1- We officially notify North Korea of our intent to destroy their assets relative to nuclear and ballistic development. Our response will be carried out if they conduct (1) more missile launch or test of any kind

2- We start the immediate evacuation (voluntary) of the South Korea. Yes, this will be a logistic nightmare beyond all compare. Hopefully, other Nations (certainly) our allies will assist in this massive operation.

3- Move our military troops off the Korean peninsula to an area where our rapid response, via airborne paratroopers, can be delivered. Ground invasion to follow

4- Move multiple Naval battle groups to the area for a massive conventional strike

We have to do something. The result of inaction WILL cost more lives than a pre-emptive strike.

We are at the crossroads and history will be our judge

-Geaux

So, are you willing to go to war with China? Yes or no would do, but an explanation of why, would do better.

I am definitely am not willing to take a nuke on the chin within the United States

-Geaux

So why does North Korea want to nuke the US? Why not Mexico? Why not Australia? Why the US?

Maybe this is a lesson for America to learn, if you don't go around annoying people, then they won't want to nuke you.

Anyway, North Korea almost certainly wants nukes to stop the US having the capabilities to invade North Korea.

Move to NK commie lover. Kim would welcome you

-Geaux

Which countries will go to war with Trump?

Get your popcorn and wait. Your POTUS has this handled

-Geaux

 

[sealybobo]

So, are you willing to go to war with China? Yes or no would do, but an explanation of why, would do better.

I am definitely am not willing to take a nuke on the chin within the United States

-Geaux

So why does North Korea want to nuke the US? Why not Mexico? Why not Australia? Why the US?

Maybe this is a lesson for America to learn, if you don't go around annoying people, then they won't want to nuke you.

Anyway, North Korea almost certainly wants nukes to stop the US having the capabilities to invade North Korea.

Move to NK commie lover. Kim would welcome you

-Geaux

Which countries will go to war with Trump?

Get your popcorn and wait. Your POTUS has this handled

-Geaux

I don't know how you can be so cocky after Iraq. And back then the rest of the world had our backs. Now it's us alone vs Russia, mexico, Cuba, china, North Korea and middle East.

How will they divide the USA after they defeat us? Will they drag Trump out of a fox hole like Saddam? Track down Trump's two boys like Saddam boys?

I can imagine ISIS sleeper cells, a million asian illegals, mexicans could be living among us we wouldn't know until d day

 

[sealybobo]

So, are you willing to go to war with China? Yes or no would do, but an explanation of why, would do better.

I am definitely am not willing to take a nuke on the chin within the United States

-Geaux

So why does North Korea want to nuke the US? Why not Mexico? Why not Australia? Why the US?

Maybe this is a lesson for America to learn, if you don't go around annoying people, then they won't want to nuke you.

Anyway, North Korea almost certainly wants nukes to stop the US having the capabilities to invade North Korea.

Move to NK commie lover. Kim would welcome you

-Geaux

Which countries will go to war with Trump?

China doesn't want war, yet. It's not ready, but it would fight if it had to, and North Korea is right on its border, it's a long way from the US.

China's ready.

 

[frigidweirdo]

So, are you willing to go to war with China? Yes or no would do, but an explanation of why, would do better.

I am definitely am not willing to take a nuke on the chin within the United States

-Geaux

So why does North Korea want to nuke the US? Why not Mexico? Why not Australia? Why the US?

Maybe this is a lesson for America to learn, if you don't go around annoying people, then they won't want to nuke you.

Anyway, North Korea almost certainly wants nukes to stop the US having the capabilities to invade North Korea.

Move to NK commie lover. Kim would welcome you

-Geaux

Which countries will go to war with Trump?

Get your popcorn and wait. Your POTUS has this handled

-Geaux

Yeah, right.

First he says he might invade. Then he says he won't invade. They he threatens again, but North Korea knows this is just bluff after bluff after bluff. They haven't stopped their missile program, they seem to be working harder on it, if anything.

 

[Divine Wind]

...2- We start the immediate evacuation (voluntary) of the South Korea. Yes, this will be a logistic nightmare beyond all compare. Hopefully, other Nations (certainly) our allies will assist in this massive operation....

You want to import up to 50,000,000 South Koreans?

 

[frigidweirdo]

I am definitely am not willing to take a nuke on the chin within the United States

-Geaux

So why does North Korea want to nuke the US? Why not Mexico? Why not Australia? Why the US?

Maybe this is a lesson for America to learn, if you don't go around annoying people, then they won't want to nuke you.

Anyway, North Korea almost certainly wants nukes to stop the US having the capabilities to invade North Korea.

Move to NK commie lover. Kim would welcome you

-Geaux

Which countries will go to war with Trump?

China doesn't want war, yet. It's not ready, but it would fight if it had to, and North Korea is right on its border, it's a long way from the US.

China's ready.

No, it's not. You just say stuff based on nothing. You have no knowledge about this, which is why you wrote almost nothing.

 

[sealybobo]

So why does North Korea want to nuke the US? Why not Mexico? Why not Australia? Why the US?

Maybe this is a lesson for America to learn, if you don't go around annoying people, then they won't want to nuke you.

Anyway, North Korea almost certainly wants nukes to stop the US having the capabilities to invade North Korea.

Move to NK commie lover. Kim would welcome you

-Geaux

Which countries will go to war with Trump?

China doesn't want war, yet. It's not ready, but it would fight if it had to, and North Korea is right on its border, it's a long way from the US.

China's ready.

No, it's not. You just say stuff based on nothing. You have no knowledge about this, which is why you wrote almost nothing.

You neo cons haven't thought this one through.

A. China's playing chess Trump's plying checkers.

B. Trump pulled out of the Paris deal. He's made a lot of enemies.

C. How big is our army? China has 10 times that. We can't even win afganistan and Iraq

D. It's not impossible Russia china and middle East and North Korea have us isolated. Are we so arrogant we don't think we can be defeated?

 

[frigidweirdo]

Move to NK commie lover. Kim would welcome you

-Geaux

Which countries will go to war with Trump?

China doesn't want war, yet. It's not ready, but it would fight if it had to, and North Korea is right on its border, it's a long way from the US.

China's ready.

No, it's not. You just say stuff based on nothing. You have no knowledge about this, which is why you wrote almost nothing.

You neo cons haven't thought this one through.

A. China's playing chess Trump's plying checkers.

B. Trump pulled out of the Paris deal. He's made a lot of enemies.

C. How big is our army? China has 10 times that. We can't even win afganistan and Iraq

D. It's not impossible Russia china and middle East and North Korea have us isolated. Are we so arrogant we don't think we can be defeated?

Wow, I've not been called a neo-con before. I'm not even a conservative.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

We can't sit on our hands like Obama did for (8) years. Under his watch he allowed Iran and NK to continue their development of nuclear weapons thus putting America in harms way.

I have an idea...

We respond militarily

But first, we must take steps to mitigate loss of life in South Korea.

If NK launches, or conduct other ballistic/nuclear test, our order of progression should be;

1- We officially notify North Korea of our intent to destroy their assets relative to nuclear and ballistic development. Our response will be carried out if they conduct (1) more missile launch or test of any kind

2- We start the immediate evacuation (voluntary) of the South Korea. Yes, this will be a logistic nightmare beyond all compare. Hopefully, other Nations (certainly) our allies will assist in this massive operation.

3- Move our military troops off the Korean peninsula to an area where our rapid response, via airborne paratroopers, can be delivered. Ground invasion to follow

4- Move multiple Naval battle groups to the area for a massive conventional strike

We have to do something. The result of inaction WILL cost more lives than a pre-emptive strike.

We are at the crossroads and history will be our judge

-Geaux

Seoul Korea is with in artillery range of of North Korea and has a population of 10 million people. Even if it was possible to evacuate that many people the second you do North Korea would evade with one of the largest Armies in the world they will take over half of SK before the US and its allies could stop an advance. I've seen every scenario and the US wins but millions will die. Isolation is the key along with a strong missile defense. Use economic to force against China to rein in the North Korean leader.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

Move to NK commie lover. Kim would welcome you

-Geaux

Which countries will go to war with Trump?

China doesn't want war, yet. It's not ready, but it would fight if it had to, and North Korea is right on its border, it's a long way from the US.

China's ready.

No, it's not. You just say stuff based on nothing. You have no knowledge about this, which is why you wrote almost nothing.

You neo cons haven't thought this one through.

A. China's playing chess Trump's plying checkers.

B. Trump pulled out of the Paris deal. He's made a lot of enemies.

C. How big is our army? China has 10 times that. We can't even win afganistan and Iraq

D. It's not impossible Russia china and middle East and North Korea have us isolated. Are we so arrogant we don't think we can be defeated?

China's economy depends on ours. They are not stupid.

The Paris deal is restraint on the US. The worst polluters China and India do not have to start following reductions of emissions until 2030 if they do at all the agreement is nonbinding.

Even if the Chinese military is 10 times larger than ours (Its not) no country could field and supply an army that size your talking about 10 million or more soldiers just not happening. Afghanistan and Iraq are not conventional wars one with China would be. Material wise we far out pace the Chinese.

 

[P@triot]

2- We start the immediate evacuation (voluntary) of the South Korea. Yes, this will be a logistic nightmare beyond all compare. Hopefully, other Nations (certainly) our allies will assist in this massive operation.

We don't need to evacuate South Korea (it couldn't even be done). We have the anti-ballistic missile defense systems we need. We can knock out of the sky anything they launch.

 

[P@triot]

I'm with you Geaux4it in terms of being proactive - but I don't believe we need a massive military strike. It should be much simpler than that right now...

1. Get an international coalition to place enormous pressure on North Korea

2. While #1 is under way, work on assassinating Kim Jong Un. Should be very easy to achieve.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Which countries will go to war with Trump?

China doesn't want war, yet. It's not ready, but it would fight if it had to, and North Korea is right on its border, it's a long way from the US.

China's ready.

No, it's not. You just say stuff based on nothing. You have no knowledge about this, which is why you wrote almost nothing.

You neo cons haven't thought this one through.

A. China's playing chess Trump's plying checkers.

B. Trump pulled out of the Paris deal. He's made a lot of enemies.

C. How big is our army? China has 10 times that. We can't even win afganistan and Iraq

D. It's not impossible Russia china and middle East and North Korea have us isolated. Are we so arrogant we don't think we can be defeated?

China's economy depends on ours. They are not stupid.

The Paris deal is restraint on the US. The worst polluters China and India do not have to start following reductions of emissions until 2030 if they do at all the agreement is nonbinding.

Even if the Chinese military is 10 times larger than ours (Its not) no country could field and supply an army that size your talking about 10 million or more soldiers just not happening. Afghanistan and Iraq are not conventional wars one with China would be. Material wise we far out pace the Chinese.

China exports the most to the US, but beyond that it exports nearly as much to the EU.

https://www.uschina.org/sites/default/files/USCBC 2017 State Export Report (Final).pdf

Then again the US exports $46 billion to China.

Top goods are Oilseeds and Grains, that's $15 billion for the farmers, who are going to tell their Congressmen what they think.

$14 billion for Aerospace products and parts, a very influential group. They like their wars, but not with their business partners.

Then you have Motor Vehicles at $8 billion.

Yes, China has more to lose, but China also has intelligent and stable government, and is willing to hold on to its principles and will play Chicken harder than the US ever could. Because China doesn't have to worry much about pissing its people off, the US does.

 

[frigidweirdo]

We can't sit on our hands like Obama did for (8) years. Under his watch he allowed Iran and NK to continue their development of nuclear weapons thus putting America in harms way.

I have an idea...

We respond militarily

But first, we must take steps to mitigate loss of life in South Korea.

If NK launches, or conduct other ballistic/nuclear test, our order of progression should be;

1- We officially notify North Korea of our intent to destroy their assets relative to nuclear and ballistic development. Our response will be carried out if they conduct (1) more missile launch or test of any kind

2- We start the immediate evacuation (voluntary) of the South Korea. Yes, this will be a logistic nightmare beyond all compare. Hopefully, other Nations (certainly) our allies will assist in this massive operation.

3- Move our military troops off the Korean peninsula to an area where our rapid response, via airborne paratroopers, can be delivered. Ground invasion to follow

4- Move multiple Naval battle groups to the area for a massive conventional strike

We have to do something. The result of inaction WILL cost more lives than a pre-emptive strike.

We are at the crossroads and history will be our judge

-Geaux

Seoul Korea is with in artillery range of of North Korea and has a population of 10 million people. Even if it was possible to evacuate that many people the second you do North Korea would evade with one of the largest Armies in the world they will take over half of SK before the US and its allies could stop an advance. I've seen every scenario and the US wins but millions will die. Isolation is the key along with a strong missile defense. Use economic to force against China to rein in the North Korean leader.

Yes, war isn't going to be pretty, war will ONLY come when there's no other solution and China steps back and say, go get him. But that won't happen.