My math was wrong and as a result 10% of all US cars and trucks will need 34% more electricity than being generated now.

[healthmyths]

I apologize. I used the same amount of electricity for cars as for trucks. And that's not correct.
An EV Car uses an average of 0.346 kWh to travel one mile. Source: Electric vs. Gas Cars: Is It Cheaper to Drive an EV?
An EV truck will use 4.3 kWh to travel one mile. Source:Battery capacity and recharging needs for electric buses in city transit service (Journal Article) | DOE PAGES
As a result the following information assuming just 10% of all cars/trucks are EVs the USA according to this source:
11,070 total power plants in usa generate 4.165 Trillion kWh per year. Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)
As a result just 10% more EV cars/trucks will need 1.429 Trillion kWh and to create the necessary 477 new nuclear power plants
to make up the difference will cost $3.335 Trillion !

 

[johngaltshrugged]

I vote for cold fusion powered Tesla coils that charge the atmosphere for our electric anti-gravity jetpacks that stay charged as we travel.

All we need is a carbon tax & a govt grant....

 

[okfine]

You should tell Elon Musk he's screwing everyone over for building and selling all those electric vehicles.

 

[ChemEngineer]

You forgot, you knucklehead. Lefties are anti-nuclear, anti-coal fired, anti-coal oil fired, and anti-natural gas fired power plants. They're Luddites who want to be like the Cubans, living in squalor, but the ONLY country in the world classified today as "sustainable."

 

[initforme]

Let's drill more and ensure not one drop leaves our shores.

 

[healthmyths]

You should tell Elon Musk he's screwing everyone over for building and selling all those electric vehicles.

The biggest idiot who doesn't seem to understand real numbers is this guy...
"I want you to look into my eyes, I guarantee We Are Going To Get Rid of Fossil Fuels”...



Think about the below... Car EVs use .346 kWh per mile BUT trucks will use 4.3kWh per mile and trucks will drive more miles!
Consequently just 10% more cars/trucks will overload current generation by nearly 25%... and 25% will overload by 46%
requiring 1,191 NEW generating plants that if nuclear cost $7 billion each and 10 years to plan and build.
The total amount needed to build these 1,191 NEW plants... $8,339,111,887,456 !
Where will that money come from? It will come from US! Our electricity bills could easily be increased by 50% or more.

But did the dummy who said "I want you to look into my eyes, I guarantee We Are Going To Get Rid of Fossil Fuels”...
think about the above? Of course not!

 

[ChemEngineer]

And the Woke audience cheered when the crooked leader said "I guarantee you we're going to end fossil fuel."

Commercial jet aircraft running on electricity.
Aircraft carriers, destroyers, escort vessels, transport ships carrying 7,000 containers
running on electricity.
Semi-tractor trailers running on electricity.
Earth movers weighing many tons running on electricity.
Farm combines and tractors running on electricity.
All of this electricity generated by solar and wind stations mind you.
This will "SAVE" mother earth, right? Because carbon dioxide is so very deadly.

 

[healthmyths]

And the Woke audience cheered when the crooked leader said "I guarantee you we're going to end fossil fuel."

Commercial jet aircraft running on electricity.
Aircraft carriers, destroyers, escort vessels, transport ships carrying 7,000 containers
running on electricity.
Semi-tractor trailers running on electricity.
Earth movers weighing many tons running on electricity.
Farm combines and tractors running on electricity.
All of this electricity generated by solar and wind stations mind you.
This will "SAVE" mother earth, right? Because carbon dioxide is so very deadly.

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I saw a Walmart delivery van proudly stating "100% electric"! Really? Do these truly dumb people comprehend on electricity is generated? For those kindergarten age mentally dummies:
All electricity that is used in America is generated by electric generating plants. ALL electricity used to charge
batteries comes from those plants.
How many plants in the USA generate electricity?
According to our government:
As of December 31, 2020, there were 23,417 electric generators at about
11,070 utility-scale electric power plants in the United States.

Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)

www.eia.gov

How many new electric generating plants being built today?
USA TODAY compiled its own list of 177 planned and proposed natural gas plants through August, using data from S&P Global Market Intelligence

As Earth faces climate catastrophe, US set to open nearly 200 power plants

There are as many as 177 natural gas power plants currently planned, under construction or announced in the United States.

www.usatoday.com

A standard 500 megawatt coal power plant produces 3.5 billion kWh per year,

How Much of Each Energy Source Does It Take to Power Your Home | 29th September 2017 | News

Powering our homes is of course an essential part of living our lives. We all need the right amount of energy to allow us to stay warm and utilise our various household appliances. Energy comes in many different forms, however, with numerous options available for providing the power the world

www.mcginley.co.uk

So at 177 planned power plants each doing 3.5 billion kWh that's a total of 620 billion kWh.
Add that to the 4,165,030,000,000 kWh generated today and that makes 4,785,030,000,000 kWh.
Hmmm... Still short 1,426,062,037,850 kWh if 10% of Americans' cars/trucks are EVs.
Blackouts will be common folks!

 

[beautress]

I apologize. I used the same amount of electricity for cars as for trucks. And that's not correct.
An EV Car uses an average of 0.346 kWh to travel one mile. Source: Electric vs. Gas Cars: Is It Cheaper to Drive an EV?
An EV truck will use 4.3 kWh to travel one mile. Source:Battery capacity and recharging needs for electric buses in city transit service (Journal Article) | DOE PAGES
As a result the following information assuming just 10% of all cars/trucks are EVs the USA according to this source:
11,070 total power plants in usa generate 4.165 Trillion kWh per year. Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)
As a result just 10% more EV cars/trucks will need 1.429 Trillion kWh and to create the necessary 477 new nuclear power plants
to make up the difference will cost $3.335 Trillion !
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I tried to tell the board that more fossil fuels would be used generating electricity for cars than was being used now due to two reasons--the ones you brought up and the inefficiency of long highwires where electricity loses its goal purpose as it inefficiently jumps off the wires and into the air. If animals or birds frequent the wires, even more is lost than should be. For a lot of reasons, running twice as much electricity is used raises the rate of fossil fuels such as coal-generated electricity and other factors, doubling usage to make EVs work would be necessary. We were better off planning for electricity for homes and industries rather than to populate the highways and byways with inefficient electricity. Thanks for the information.

I had the joy of being an electrical engineer's wife, and I learned a lot from he and his professional engineer's society, bless them. They are an organization of very professional men and women who not only are wizard mathematicians, as supporters to their different lines of engineering, the electrical guys had to be super efficient, because lives depended on their math for safety conditions on the job in every avenue. There are fewer power electrocutions when they go to safety meetings once a week. My husband made sure nobody died on his 25-year watch.

Professional engineers are amazing people, although nobody can quite follow their out of space vocabularies because it is quite complex. Safety up there on a 40-ft. pole in minus 50 degree weather to get a town back in power so elderly and infants don't die is a task those in the northern states must engage. Safety saved 20 lives in one area when a wise Professional Engineer lays out the work ethic to his men who without safety would be not if but when they got electrocuted in many years past. God bless the brotherhood and societies of engineers who care about people.

 

[kyzr]

I saw a Walmart delivery van proudly stating "100% electric"! Really? Do these truly dumb people comprehend on electricity is generated? For those kindergarten age mentally dummies:
All electricity that is used in America is generated by electric generating plants. ALL electricity used to charge
batteries comes from those plants.
How many plants in the USA generate electricity?
According to our government:
As of December 31, 2020, there were 23,417 electric generators at about
11,070 utility-scale electric power plants in the United States.
How many new electric generating plants being built today?
USA TODAY compiled its own list of 177 planned and proposed natural gas plants through August, using data from S&P Global Market Intelligence
A standard 500 megawatt coal power plant produces 3.5 billion kWh per year,
So at 177 planned power plants each doing 3.5 billion kWh that's a total of 620 billion kWh.
Add that to the 4,165,030,000,000 kWh generated today and that makes 4,785,030,000,000 kWh.
Hmmm... Still short 1,426,062,037,850 kWh if 10% of Americans' cars/trucks are EVs.
Blackouts will be common folks!

You also need to add in the replacement capacity needed for retiring nuclear and coal fired powerplants.
28% of coal fired powerplants will be decommissioned in the coming years
Nuclear powerplants are also retiring significant MW of capacity.

Locations of Power Reactor Sites Undergoing Decommissioning

Locations of Power Reactor Sites Undergoing Decommissioning

www.nrc.gov

 

[healthmyths]

You also need to add in the replacement capacity needed for retiring nuclear and coal fired powerplants.
28% of coal fired powerplants will be decommissioned in the coming years
Nuclear powerplants are also retiring significant MW of capacity.

Locations of Power Reactor Sites Undergoing Decommissioning

Locations of Power Reactor Sites Undergoing Decommissioning

www.nrc.gov

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Thanks you are right! Appreciate your substantiation.