Musk says trump will crash the economy for our own good.

[Harpy Eagle]

Defense is actually in the Constitution.

Yes, defense is.

We do not need bases in more than 80 countries for defense.

 

[Arlette]

they are talking about MY medicare. not musks $$$$$$$$$$$$$$space toys.

You are taking advantage of government. I never figured you for one of those guys.

 

[Rawley]

He says High prices and economic collapse are the price of the trump agenda.

Are you guys really gonna vote for this just to "own the libs"?

It would be the biggest self-own in history to crash your own country's economy on purpose just to be able to say you won.

Elon Musk agrees: Trump’s economic plans will lead to ‘hardship’

The former president’s wealthy allies are promoting the idea of economic collapse and high prices as a necessary side effect of Trump’s economic agenda

www.the-independent.com

?? WHere's the part where he says Trump is going to "crash" and "collapse" the economy?

 

[JoeB131]

oh great. i can hardly wait.

check millei's economic miracle of trumpanomics in argentina for confirmation.

Okay, I've checked.


Argentina is on track for a 4% GDP Decline for 2024.

Argentina Economic Outlook. October 2024 | BBVA Research

The government maintains a firm commitment to fiscal balance while upholding a "zero monetary issuance" policy for all items arising from the public sector. The slowdown in inflation has stalled since May, remaining around 4% monthly, and economic activity shows signs that the recession may have...

www.bbvaresearch.com

 

[hadit]

did you not read the link in the OP?

Neither Trump nor Musk are known for "fine tuning", they are both blunt instruments.

They're going to propose drastic measures, Congress will shriek, run around with their hair on fire and ultimately everyone settles on trimming the growth of the federal budget at a lower percentage than baseline budgeting calls for. A few programs will be merged with other programs doing the same thing. Everyone will walk around saying they cut the budget to the bone and there's no more they can do. Then Congress will demand higher taxes because they need more revenue. Eventually our taxes go up and Congress immediately puts back all the spending they trimmed away and we're right back on course to the big crash.

Are you with me so far and do you realize your fear is misplaced?

 

[rampart]

You are taking advantage of government. I never figured you for one of those guys.

i get a social security check as well. what a taker!

 

[rampart]

Okay, I've checked.


Argentina is on track for a 4% GDP Decline for 2024.

Argentina Economic Outlook. October 2024 | BBVA Research

The government maintains a firm commitment to fiscal balance while upholding a "zero monetary issuance" policy for all items arising from the public sector. The slowdown in inflation has stalled since May, remaining around 4% monthly, and economic activity shows signs that the recession may have...

www.bbvaresearch.com

yesterday inflation is 209%. and unemployment rampant. maga would go nuts.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

They're going to propose drastic measures, Congress will shriek, run around with their hair on fire and ultimately everyone settles on trimming the growth of the federal budget at a lower percentage than baseline budgeting calls for. A few programs will be merged with other programs doing the same thing. Everyone will walk around saying they cut the budget to the bone and there's no more they can do. Then Congress will demand higher taxes because they need more revenue. Eventually our taxes go up and Congress immediately puts back all the spending they trimmed away and we're right back on course to the big crash.

Are you with me so far and do you realize your fear is misplaced?

I more or less said the same thing above, Congress will not go along with it.

Trump's biggest damage will come in the form of massive tariffs, which he needs no approval to do from Congress

 

[Arlette]

i get a social security check as well. what a taker!

OMG. You should be ashamed of yourself. If it weren't for a brave multi billionaire like Musk people like you would keep on eating three squares a day and never waste a thought on what's best for the country. Just eat and shit

 

[hadit]

I more or less said the same thing above, Congress will not go along with it.

Trump's biggest damage will come in the form of massive tariffs, which he needs no approval to do from Congress

Oh, that's right. He'll impose tariffs and STILL be accused of being a lackey for the leader of the countries affected.

 

[rampart]

OMG. You should be ashamed of yourself. If it weren't for a brave multi billionaire like Musk people like you would keep on eating three squares a day and never waste a thought on what's best for the country. Just eat and shit

me and the cats.

maybe i should self identify as "fuzzy?' what pronouns do tom cats use?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Oh, that's right. He'll impose tariffs and STILL be accused of being a lackey for the leader of the countries affected.

so, you are one of those people that thinks the other country pays for the tariff?

 

[hadit]

me and the cats.

maybe i should self identify as "fuzzy?' what pronouns do tom cats use?

I slash them.

 

[Lesh]

Wake up people. Musk is telling you what they plan to do. He’s so arrogant and he thinks you’re so stupid that he can do that and get away with it.

 

[Arlette]

me and the cats.

maybe i should self identify as "fuzzy?' what pronouns do tom cats use?

I can tell. You and your cats have no intention to quit your nasty habit of taking advantage of the government. Don't you wanna make America great again?

 

[hadit]

Yes, defense is.

We do not need bases in more than 80 countries for defense.

Agreed, but what do you think would happen? Let's pull out of Europe and watch the following happen:

1. The lavish nanny states go bankrupt. Rioting in the streets as people realize they'll have to work 5 days a week instead of 3 and won't get a month and a half of vacation every year on the taxpayers' dime.
2. European nations start ramping up defense spending as they don't trust Germany and Italy to stay in their borders.

Let's pull out of Asia and watch the following happen:

1. China ramps up defense spending in a bid to dominate the region.
2. Japan ramps up defense spending to keep China at bay and expand their influence.

Yeah, let's pull out worldwide and hunker down. We'd probably be safe from invasion, but the world would likely erupt. After the dust settles and the rest of the world's manufacturing bases are gone, we can relive the 50's and be the big dog on the block again.

 

[Lesh]

They're going to propose drastic measures, Congress will shriek, run around with their hair on fire and ultimately everyone settles on trimming the growth of the federal budget at a lower percentage than baseline budgeting calls for. A few programs will be merged with other programs doing the same thing. Everyone will walk around saying they cut the budget to the bone and there's no more they can do. Then Congress will demand higher taxes because they need more revenue. Eventually our taxes go up and Congress immediately puts back all the spending they trimmed away and we're right back on course to the big crash.

Are you with me so far and do you realize your fear is misplaced?

And it will CRASH the economy

 

[Nostra]

Wake up people. Musk is telling you what they plan to do. He’s so arrogant and he thinks you’re so stupid that he can do that and get away with it.

How dare he want to get govt spending under control!

 

[hadit]

so, you are one of those people that thinks the other country pays for the tariff?

Of course not. The other country will lose sales as American sales go up. That's the point of tariffs, after all, to erase a trade imbalance and give the host country's companies a better shot at being competitive. The result is higher prices, of course, but haven't we been hearing ad nauseum about those evil corporations sending jobs overseas? This is one way of bringing them back for our robots to do.

 

[hadit]

And it will CRASH the economy

Really? Increasing the budget by a smaller percentage will crash it?