Muscovite -Ukraine war latest news: at least 50 people killed in rocket attack at Kramatorsk

[Litwin]

one more pootin´s war crime, he must pay !!! many Moscow trolls all over internet spread information that it was an Ukrainian rocker , I hove we will keep our forum clean from them ... what we need to do its send to Ukraine the offensive weapons NOW!!

Czech Republic delivers armaments to Ukraine â as it happened

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Russia Ukraine war: Death toll rises to 50; over 100 injured at Kramatorsk station

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[Litwin]

 

[Donald H]

Whether or not Russia is responsible, there's no doubt that Russia will escalate to match and outdo the other side's efforts.
Russia could indeed reverse it's withdrawal on Kiev and then completely turn it into rubble.

The agreed upon rules of war are being reconsidered now, but it will still stop short of nuclear war for the immediate future.

A Ukraine attack on Russian soil will be seen by Russia as a US/Nato attack and that could be the escalation to nuclear war.

If war in Taiwan is fomented by the US, China may not dally with a limited war and instead get right to the point of attaining a quick and very deadly victory.

China is in no way unaware of America's plans for conquest in China's/Russia's sphere of influence.

 

[Rogue AI]

Russia is not fielding the weapon the Ukrainians are claiming was used. So why is Ukraine bombing Ukrainian children?

 

[Litwin]

Russia

 

[Litwin]

 

[kyzr]

The more Russia attacks civilians and children, the more modern and deadlier weapons countries send to Ukraine. Russia retreated from the Kyiv area. The battles now will be the east and south of Ukraine.


If Putin thinks he can win a war of attrition he's dumber than we thought.

 

[Lesh]

Whether or not Russia is responsible, there's no doubt that Russia will escalate to match and outdo the other side's efforts.
Russia could indeed reverse it's withdrawal on Kiev and then completely turn it into rubble.

The agreed upon rules of war are being reconsidered now, but it will still stop short of nuclear war for the immediate future.

A Ukraine attack on Russian soil will be seen by Russia as a US/Nato attack and that could be the escalation to nuclear war.

If war in Taiwan is fomented by the US, China may not dally with a limited war and instead get right to the point of attaining a quick and very deadly victory.

China is in no way unaware of America's plans for conquest in China's/Russia's sphere of influence.

Ukraine is well within their rights to attack inside Russia after being invaded by Russia

In fact they have already done so. They blew up a fuel storage depot in Russia north of Kiyv

 

[Litwin]

The more Russia attacks civilians and children, the more modern and deadlier weapons countries send to Ukraine. Russia retreated from the Kyiv area. The battles now will be the east and south of Ukraine.


If Putin thinks he can win a war of attrition he's dumber than we thought.

+1

 

[Lesh]

Ya know...in the beginning I only blamed Putin....but he's not the one pushing the button to fire those missiles that kill thousands

HE"S NOT THE ONE PULLING THE TRIGGERS THAT BLOW CIVILIANS HEADS APART.

 

[Donald H]

Ukraine is well within their rights to attack inside Russia after being invaded by Russia.

Ukraine's rights will be conditional on the rules of the war and the Ukraine will have very little to say about it.

In fact they have already done so. They blew up a fuel storage depot in Russia north of Kiyv

Russia has no right within the rules to attack the Ukraine on the suspicion that Ukrainian terrorists were responsible.

I'm simply saying that in this war, heavy artillery supplied by the US for attacking inside Russia's borders, will have to be agreed upon as consistent with the established rules for this war.

If Russia doesn't agree to tolerate that or any other escalated behaviour, they may escalate beyond the acceptable limits.

Don't forget that Russia is handicapped by their absolute refusal to lose this time.

Your comments, providing you can state your opinion rationally and politely?

 

[JWBooth]

Uke, not Russian missile.

Moon of Alabama

 

[Rigby5]

one more pootin´s war crime, he must pay !!! many Moscow trolls all over internet spread information that it was an Ukrainian rocker , I hove we will keep our forum clean from them ... what we need to do its send to Ukraine the offensive weapons NOW!!

That is deceptive.
The Ukraine deliberately started this war, under orders and bribes from the US.
They stole billions in oil, violated treaties, massacred ethnic Russians, tried to put NATO nukes on Russia's border, cut off negotiations, etc.

When the Ukraine starts a war and puts armed civilians in harms way, it is a war crime by the Ukraine, not Russia.

 

[Rigby5]

Russia has no right within the rules to attack the Ukraine on the suspicion that Ukrainian terrorists were responsible.

Yes they do.
The Ukraine has arming and training illegal, racist, terrorists to murder ethnic Russians for decades, so now is legally responsible for their terrorist attacks.
The Ukraine has deliberately committed many acts of war, like stealing oil, terrorist attacks, violating treaties, trying to put NATO nukes on Russia's border, etc., so there is no longer anything that Russia could not be justified in doing, short of rape.
The Polish, Mongol, and Cossack civilian population of the Ukraine has openly supported war crimes for decades, and now must pay the price.

 

[Rigby5]

+1

The Bucha massacre was likely the fascist Ukrainians murdering anyone with a Russian accent, after the Russians left.

 

[Rigby5]

The more Russia attacks civilians and children, the more modern and deadlier weapons countries send to Ukraine. Russia retreated from the Kyiv area. The battles now will be the east and south of Ukraine.


If Putin thinks he can win a war of attrition he's dumber than we thought.

Putin has already won.
The Ukraine is totally shut down, and will soon be starving.
The Ukrainians are just too stupid to realize it yet.

 

[Rigby5]

Ukraine is well within their rights to attack inside Russia after being invaded by Russia

In fact they have already done so. They blew up a fuel storage depot in Russia north of Kiyv

The war is entirely the fault of the Ukraine, who deliberately committed acts of war for decades, like stealing oil, violating treaties, massacring ethnic Russians, etc.
This war was specifically started by the Ukraine cutting off negotiations.
So then the Ukraine is not justified in ANYTHING it has done.
But if you want to start targeting civilian locations like fuel storage depots, then go ahead.
I am sure Russia can easily find similar targets in the Ukraine to start retaliating on.

 

[Rigby5]

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More Evidence That Ukraine Fired The Missile Which Killed Dozens In Kramatorsk​

This is a follow on to yesterday's Ukrainian Tochka-U missile strike on the Kramatorsk railway station. Russia no longer has Tochka missiles while the Ukraine, Belarus and several other states still use them.

There is now additional evidence that the missile was fired by Ukrainian forces. The facts do not matter in 'western' media who stick to whatever story they are told to produce. Still, I do believe that facts matter at least in the long term and that there is a historic value in documenting them.

The Tochka-U is a tactical missile with a maximum range of some 120 kilometer. It is typically fired from a transporter, erector, launcher vehicle (TEL) with little need of preparations.

The TEL vehicle for the Tochka is a six wheeled BAZ 5921 /5922. These are amphibious floating hull chassis. The picture below shows a BAZ TEL in parade mode with a Tochka missile slightly erected. In the normal transport mode the missile lies horizontally under a protective roof.
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[Rigby5]

one more pootin´s war crime, he must pay !!! many Moscow trolls all over internet spread information that it was an Ukrainian rocker , I hove we will keep our forum clean from them ... what we need to do its send to Ukraine the offensive weapons NOW!!

Czech Republic delivers armaments to Ukraine â as it happened

This blog is closed

www.theguardian.com

Russia Ukraine war: Death toll rises to 50; over 100 injured at Kramatorsk station

www.republicworld.com

Nonsense.
The Ukraine deliberately started this war with illegal acts of war starting decades ago.
Like stealing oil, violating treaties, trying to put NATO nukes on Russia's border, etc.
The Ukraine deliberately forced the war by cutting off negotiations.
The war could instantly end any time the Ukraine wanted to.
But then the US bribes would stop.
So this is totally on the Ukraine.

 

[Rigby5]

Russia has not had any Tochka missiles for over a decade.
Those had to be Ukrainian missiles that hit the train station.