Mr. President, you did not kill Bin Laden. America Did. ex Seals and CIA ad

[8537]

No, their co leader and cofounder was attending dinners with our current President, who, had many words of priase. Rashid Khalidi - Discover the Networks

Tell us more about the co-leader of Islamic Jihad - because your link doesn't address that alleged connection.

The PIJ and the PLO are one in the same.

The Islamic Jihad that bombed the Barracks was not the Palestinian IJ. It was IJO, based in Lebanon.

 

[freedombecki]

Neither Obama nor anyone else in the room had to discuss the most obvious point: Obama would be placing his presidency on the line. If he ordered the mission to proceed and it succeeded, he would receive hurrahs. It could well boost his political standing.

Yet if the mission went sour—and American lives were lost, and the United States embarrassed—Obama would be denounced as hapless and incompetent. His right-wing critics would have evidence for their otherwise baseless contention that he was an amateur on national security. Obama and his aides were well aware that Desert One had reinforced the charge that President Carter, then contending with economic troubles, was feckless, and that the failed mission severely damaged his reelection prospects.

It was entirely possible—arguably probable—that Obama might never recover from such a failure. So much had to go exactly right for the raid to succeed; one accident or screwup (well beyond Obama’s control) could sink the operation—and his presidency. Obama was on the verge of taking the ultimate political risk.

Much More (Obama haters won't like it): How Obama Got Bin Laden: A Detailed Account From ‘Showdown’ by David Corn

Lakhota, most of us do not hate this president, we're just disappointed to have a man at the helm of this country who

Says bad things about our forefathers
Says and does bad things to and about our allies in the UK
Shuts down energy companies drilling opportunities unilaterally by edict and not by Congressional approval
Fails to discipline egregious repetitive errors in the DOJ
Breaches diplomatic protocol often
Displays hatred in the Bully Pulpit

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=li-9Lts-d-w]Obama knocks down podium - YouTube[/ame]
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[Dick Tuck]

Nice to have an adult as CINC.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PGmnz5Ow-o]Bush: Truly not concerned about bin Laden (short version) - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Lakhota]

Obama knew if the bin Laden raid failed that he would be blamed. He knew a failure would be leaked from any one of several sources - most definitely Pakistan. Since Obama never informed Pakistan of the raid in advance - he knew they would be pissed whether the mission succeeded or failed. Obama also knew if the mission failed and he tried to blame others that it would make his failure appear even worse and petty. President Obama is no dummy.

It took great courage to give the green light for this risky mission. I can't imagine why anyone would refuse to give President Obama, as Commander-in-Chief, the credit he deserves for getting bin Laden.

 

[freedombecki]

yes indeed. Obama is the Commander in Chief, so if we follow the chain of command as it currently is. Obama deserves some credit. To even try and make this a political play is sort of disingenuous at best.

Why is this so hard to understand? if Reagen gets credit for the fall of the Soviet Union, then Obama is surly in order to take a claim of the death of our greatest enemy.

Reagan participated in the foreign policy and global media war against the USSR, openly thrashing them at every moment he could. Obama had an OBL unit on auto piolet where the experts informed him on their progress and requested permission to raid the OBL compound upon receipt of good intelligence. Obama then passed three times and, when he finally gave the order, he made it a conditional one, allowing room for the spec ops commander to take the fall if it went south. Disconnected leadership is not leadership.

Christ, you get dumber and more childish with each post. You'll probably be eating baby food by the end of this thread.

Please remove your N-word link. It is inappropriate.

 

[freedombecki]

Obama knew if the bin Laden raid failed that he would be blamed. He knew a failure would be leaked from any one of several sources - most definitely Pakistan. Since Obama never informed Pakistan of the raid in advance - he knew they would be pissed whether the mission succeeded or failed. Obama also knew if the mission failed and he tried to blame others that it would make his failure appear even worse and petty. President Obama is no dummy.

It took great courage to give the green light for this risky mission. I can't imagine why anyone would refuse to give President Obama, as Commander-in-Chief, the credit he deserves for getting bin Laden.

Obama didn't get bin Laden. American military men did.

 

[Lakhota]

Obama knew if the bin Laden raid failed that he would be blamed. He knew a failure would be leaked from any one of several sources - most definitely Pakistan. Since Obama never informed Pakistan of the raid in advance - he knew they would be pissed whether the mission succeeded or failed. Obama also knew if the mission failed and he tried to blame others that it would make his failure appear even worse and petty. President Obama is no dummy.

It took great courage to give the green light for this risky mission. I can't imagine why anyone would refuse to give President Obama, as Commander-in-Chief, the credit he deserves for getting bin Laden.

Obama didn't get bin Laden. American military men did.

Are you a registered idiot - or just a freelancer?

 

[freedombecki]

Obama knew if the bin Laden raid failed that he would be blamed. He knew a failure would be leaked from any one of several sources - most definitely Pakistan. Since Obama never informed Pakistan of the raid in advance - he knew they would be pissed whether the mission succeeded or failed. Obama also knew if the mission failed and he tried to blame others that it would make his failure appear even worse and petty. President Obama is no dummy.

It took great courage to give the green light for this risky mission. I can't imagine why anyone would refuse to give President Obama, as Commander-in-Chief, the credit he deserves for getting bin Laden.

Obama didn't get bin Laden. American military men did.

Are you a registered idiot - or just a freelancer?

Don't earn my angst, madam.

 

[francoHFW]

DUH. But he had the guts to have it as a goal, and to order it despite the risks.

 

[rightwinger]

Obama knew if the bin Laden raid failed that he would be blamed. He knew a failure would be leaked from any one of several sources - most definitely Pakistan. Since Obama never informed Pakistan of the raid in advance - he knew they would be pissed whether the mission succeeded or failed. Obama also knew if the mission failed and he tried to blame others that it would make his failure appear even worse and petty. President Obama is no dummy.

It took great courage to give the green light for this risky mission. I can't imagine why anyone would refuse to give President Obama, as Commander-in-Chief, the credit he deserves for getting bin Laden.

Obama didn't get bin Laden. American military men did.

If that's the case..

Lincoln didn't free the slaves
Teddy Roosevelt didn't build the Panama Canal
JFK didn't get us to the moon
IKE didn't build the interstate highway system

And Bin Laden didn't attack us on 9-11

 

[Lakhota]

Obama didn't get bin Laden. American military men did.

Are you a registered idiot - or just a freelancer?

Don't earn my angst, madam.

Honey, negs are all you wingnuts have, so do what makes you feel superior.

 

[8537]

Obama knew if the bin Laden raid failed that he would be blamed. He knew a failure would be leaked from any one of several sources - most definitely Pakistan. Since Obama never informed Pakistan of the raid in advance - he knew they would be pissed whether the mission succeeded or failed. Obama also knew if the mission failed and he tried to blame others that it would make his failure appear even worse and petty. President Obama is no dummy.

It took great courage to give the green light for this risky mission. I can't imagine why anyone would refuse to give President Obama, as Commander-in-Chief, the credit he deserves for getting bin Laden.

Obama didn't get bin Laden. American military men did.

If that's the case..

Lincoln didn't free the slaves
Teddy Roosevelt didn't build the Panama Canal
JFK didn't get us to the moon
IKE didn't build the interstate highway system

And Bin Laden didn't attack us on 9-11

...Reagan didn't get the Grenadans

 

[Vast LWC]

If that's the case..

Lincoln didn't free the slaves
Teddy Roosevelt didn't build the Panama Canal
JFK didn't get us to the moon
IKE didn't build the interstate highway system

And Bin Laden didn't attack us on 9-11

Survey says:

Ding ding ding! That's the #1 answer.

 

[Nole]

Obama didn't get bin Laden. American military men did.

krist! you do understand Obama is the Commander in Chief, hes the boss. He deserves a portion of the credit, leaving all politics out of it.

 

[freedombecki]

Obama knew if the bin Laden raid failed that he would be blamed. He knew a failure would be leaked from any one of several sources - most definitely Pakistan. Since Obama never informed Pakistan of the raid in advance - he knew they would be pissed whether the mission succeeded or failed. Obama also knew if the mission failed and he tried to blame others that it would make his failure appear even worse and petty. President Obama is no dummy.

It took great courage to give the green light for this risky mission. I can't imagine why anyone would refuse to give President Obama, as Commander-in-Chief, the credit he deserves for getting bin Laden.

Obama didn't get bin Laden. American military men did.

If that's the case..

Lincoln didn't free the slaves
Teddy Roosevelt didn't build the Panama Canal
JFK didn't get us to the moon
IKE didn't build the interstate highway system
And Bin Laden didn't attack us on 9-11

Your points are all well-spoken and well-taken.

It's too bad nobody on your side is taking the military guys' case. For their risky operation in Pakistan, their fellow Seals were targeted for a huge hit. They're sad, they're sorry, and they're not happy about what brought their fellow Seals down--too much bragging and not enough discretion to protect them from being moving targets.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXylZ4mLubE]Ex-SEALs & CIA Agents Documentary 'Dishonorable DIsclosures' Details Obama Leaking Secrets - YouTube[/ame]
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[freedombecki]

Are you a registered idiot - or just a freelancer?

Don't earn my angst, madam.

Honey, negs are all you wingnuts have, so do what makes you feel superior.

Honey, I don't need to neg someone who constantly disgraces herself.

 

[emptystep]

Hey lookie, ES has a green beret. Take it from me if you believe everything we say. Bush stretched special units way too thin and got a lot of good peope killed. Obama is on the right track.

 

[geauxtohell]

Tacky is as tacky does.

I am sure that the guys who were actually on the raid appreciate people on both sides politicizing their blood, sweat, and tears.

And that is exactly what this ad is doing.

 

[AmyNation]

Obama didn't get bin Laden. American military men did.

If that's the case..

Lincoln didn't free the slaves
Teddy Roosevelt didn't build the Panama Canal
JFK didn't get us to the moon
IKE didn't build the interstate highway system
And Bin Laden didn't attack us on 9-11

Your points are all well-spoken and well-taken.

It's too bad nobody on your side is taking the military guys' case. For their risky operation in Pakistan, their fellow Seals were targeted for a huge hit. They're sad, they're sorry, and they're not happy about what brought their fellow Seals down--too much bragging and not enough discretion to protect them from being moving targets.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXylZ4mLubE]Ex-SEALs & CIA Agents Documentary 'Dishonorable DIsclosures' Details Obama Leaking Secrets - YouTube[/ame]
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I know, it's quite shocking, those who serve in the military can also be partisan.

 

[tinydancer]

Valerie Jarrett apparently got Obama to put off striking the compound 3 times I believe according to the author of this new book. She really has a great deal of influence with the President. More than I'm comfortable with.

One thing is for sure. I bet they are so angry at themselves that they didn't wait to kill Osama until October 2012. I can hear them bitching now. "Shit the bounce didn't last".

According to ”Leading From Behind: The Reluctant President and the Advisors Who Decide for Him," President Obama canceled the raid to kill Osama bin Laden three times at the urging of Valerie Jarrett, the Daily Caller reported Sunday.

Richard Miniter, the author of the new book, said that Obama canceled the raid in "January 2011, again in February, and a third time in March," David Martosko wrote.

When Obama finally gave the order in early May, he waited 16 hours to do so, the Daily Mail reported.

New book: Obama canceled bin Laden raid three times at urging of Valerie Jarrett - National Policy & Issues | Examiner.com