Mr. President, you did not kill Bin Laden. America Did. ex Seals and CIA ad

[Nole]

lets not forget, we the people pay for and own the military. So in the big picture, we do deserve to know some facts.

 

[8537]

Yeah, Publius. Reagan's a fine example: When your military base in Lebanon is attacked, strike back (by invading a small island nation in the Caribbean.

 

[rightwinger]

Obama got his man

Bush hardly tried

 

[Publius1787]

I have no respect for the man currently in the Oval Office.

Have you examined your true motives for having no respect for the man?

I've met very few vets who know nothing about opsec. Certainly a bipartisan issue if you ask me.

 

[Pheonixops]

So the President claimed he killed bin Laden did he?

"..the United States has conducted an operation that killed Osama bin Laden, the leader of alQaeda,.."
Pre

So it's another typical lying campaign from the GOP supporters and repeaters.

Ho-hum.

Here's how it works with many of them;
When it's an unpopular thing like the American citizen who was taken out (Alwaki), Obama was responsible for that. When it's something popular like OBL's demise, then " NO!!!! Obwama had nothing to do with it!"

 

[Publius1787]

Yeah, Publius. Reagan's a fine example: When your military base in Lebanon is attacked, strike back (by invading a small island nation in the Caribbean.

A proud moment for the United States Marine Corps.

 

[8537]

Obama got his man

Bush hardly tried

Oh, I disagree. Bush got his man.

His man just happened to the leader of a nation with no WMD's, no support for AQ and no connection to Bin Laden or 9.11.

 

[8537]

Yeah, Publius. Reagan's a fine example: When your military base in Lebanon is attacked, strike back (by invading a small island nation in the Caribbean.

A proud moment for the United States Marine Corps.

Thanks to that action we got rid of the threat from the people who struck the Marine barracks.

Right?

 

[Lakhota]

yes indeed. Obama is the Commander in Chief, so if we follow the chain of command as it currently is. Obama deserves some credit. To even try and make this a political play is sort of disingenuous at best.

Why is this so hard to understand? if Reagen gets credit for the fall of the Soviet Union, then Obama is surly in order to take a claim of the death of our greatest enemy.

Reagan participated in the foreign policy and global media war against the USSR, openly thrashing them at every moment he could. Obama had an OBL unit on auto piolet where the experts informed him on their progress and requested permission to raid the OBL compound upon receipt of good intelligence. Obama then passed three times and, when he finally gave the order, he made it a conditional one, allowing room for the spec ops commander to take the fall if it went south. Disconnected leadership is not leadership.

Christ, you get dumber and more childish with each post. You'll probably be eating baby food by the end of this thread.

 

[rightwinger]

Obama got his man

Bush hardly tried

Oh, I disagree. Bush got his man.

His man just happened to the leader of a nation with no WMD's, no support for AQ and no connection to Bin Laden or 9.11.

I stand corrected

Osama bin Laden mocked America as Bush blundered his way through Iraq

 

[Publius1787]

Yeah, Publius. Reagan's a fine example: When your military base in Lebanon is attacked, strike back (by invading a small island nation in the Caribbean.

A proud moment for the United States Marine Corps.

Thanks to that action we got rid of the threat from the people who struck the Marine barracks.

Right?

No, their co leader and cofounder was attending dinners with our current President, who, had many words of priase. Rashid Khalidi - Discover the Networks

 

[Nole]

allowing room for the spec ops commander to take the fall if it went south.

nice straw man attempt. Fact is, the mission did not fail.

in your world, if this past Mars rover landing didn't go as planned, are you saying Obama would have blamed the UNIX software engineer who wrote the reentry target software???

you are living in a what if world. that's not going to fly good sir.

 

[Publius1787]

yes indeed. Obama is the Commander in Chief, so if we follow the chain of command as it currently is. Obama deserves some credit. To even try and make this a political play is sort of disingenuous at best.

Why is this so hard to understand? if Reagen gets credit for the fall of the Soviet Union, then Obama is surly in order to take a claim of the death of our greatest enemy.

Reagan participated in the foreign policy and global media war against the USSR, openly thrashing them at every moment he could. Obama had an OBL unit on auto piolet where the experts informed him on their progress and requested permission to raid the OBL compound upon receipt of good intelligence. Obama then passed three times and, when he finally gave the order, he made it a conditional one, allowing room for the spec ops commander to take the fall if it went south. Disconnected leadership is not leadership.

Christ, you get dumber and more childish with each post. You'll probably be eating baby food by the end of this thread.

Selective responses I see.

 

[BreezeWood]

Does he deserve the credit ...

you are obsessed with denying the obvious ... to bad for you.


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[8537]

A proud moment for the United States Marine Corps.

Thanks to that action we got rid of the threat from the people who struck the Marine barracks.

Right?

No, their co leader and cofounder was attending dinners with our current President, who, had many words of priase. Rashid Khalidi - Discover the Networks

Tell us more about the co-leader of Islamic Jihad - because your link doesn't address that alleged connection.

 

[Publius1787]

Does he deserve the credit ...

you are obsessed with denying the obvious ... to bad for you.


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Well, there's the claim along with my edited earleyer comment.

 

[Lakhota]

Neither Obama nor anyone else in the room had to discuss the most obvious point: Obama would be placing his presidency on the line. If he ordered the mission to proceed and it succeeded, he would receive hurrahs. It could well boost his political standing.

Yet if the mission went sour—and American lives were lost, and the United States embarrassed—Obama would be denounced as hapless and incompetent. His right-wing critics would have evidence for their otherwise baseless contention that he was an amateur on national security. Obama and his aides were well aware that Desert One had reinforced the charge that President Carter, then contending with economic troubles, was feckless, and that the failed mission severely damaged his reelection prospects.

It was entirely possible—arguably probable—that Obama might never recover from such a failure. So much had to go exactly right for the raid to succeed; one accident or screwup (well beyond Obama’s control) could sink the operation—and his presidency. Obama was on the verge of taking the ultimate political risk.

Much More (Obama haters won't like it): How Obama Got Bin Laden: A Detailed Account From ‘Showdown’ by David Corn

 

[freedombecki]

You're so right on, tinydander. Obama took credit away from the Seals and heaped it upon himself.

He needs to apologize to the Seals for stealing their thunder. The Seals paid a price for all that braggadocio when their brother seals were shot down by angry terrorists who targeted them after it was leaked who did it. They're marked men who weren't killed in the helicopter attack after revelations were made by the Obamabot press.

You need to apologize to our nation for trying to turn our victory into a point of political contention.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

I'm so not surprised you think other people should not object to obnoxious things this president does, day in and day out. He's all you have for a model.

How dear leader handles answering dissenters questions

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q3SFXQfE4kk]Obama Kicks Door Open - YouTube[/ame]

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[Publius1787]

Thanks to that action we got rid of the threat from the people who struck the Marine barracks.

Right?

No, their co leader and cofounder was attending dinners with our current President, who, had many words of priase. Rashid Khalidi - Discover the Networks

Tell us more about the co-leader of Islamic Jihad - because your link doesn't address that alleged connection.

The PIJ and the PLO are one in the same.

 

[Publius1787]

Neither Obama nor anyone else in the room had to discuss the most obvious point: Obama would be placing his presidency on the line. If he ordered the mission to proceed and it succeeded, he would receive hurrahs. It could well boost his political standing.

Yet if the mission went sour—and American lives were lost, and the United States embarrassed—Obama would be denounced as hapless and incompetent. His right-wing critics would have evidence for their otherwise baseless contention that he was an amateur on national security. Obama and his aides were well aware that Desert One had reinforced the charge that President Carter, then contending with economic troubles, was feckless, and that the failed mission severely damaged his reelection prospects.

It was entirely possible—arguably probable—that Obama might never recover from such a failure. So much had to go exactly right for the raid to succeed; one accident or screwup (well beyond Obama’s control) could sink the operation—and his presidency. Obama was on the verge of taking the ultimate political risk.

Much More (Obama haters won't like it): How Obama Got Bin Laden: A Detailed Account From ‘Showdown’ by David Corn

Revealed: How White House 'planned to shield Obama by blaming Navy chief if bin Laden raid went wrong' | Mail Online

Once again, if a soldier gave as much informationas the white house did to make that article possible he would be serving consecutive life sentences.