Orangecat
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I already have a small carbon footprint (size 10).
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I already have a small carbon footprint (size 10).
Actually, that is my point. We have to mitigate the vagaries of nature or its effects.incorrect,, if you plan on walking or driving you need salt because of the ice,,
whats that got to do with what I said??Actually, that is my point. We have to mitigate the vagaries of nature or its effects.
You suggested that what happens in nature is 'normal'. I'm suggesting that we 'have benevolent dominion over nature' to the extent possible.whats that got to do with what I said??
go back and read it again,,You suggested that what happens in nature is 'normal'. I'm suggesting that we 'have benevolent dominion over nature' to the extent possible.
You said, "how do we know whats happening isnt the normal course??"go back and read it again,,
exactly,, you left out the first part that explained why I asked the question,,You said, "how do we know whats happening isnt the normal course??"
Sounds more like an argument than a question.
Their models can't distinguish between warming from CO2 and natural warming so they assume all warming is from CO2 which is one of the flaws of their models.Supposedly there are "mountains of evidence" that the additional wisp of CO2 added since 1850 will kill all life on Earth. Let's put aside that mankind's contribution to this additional CO2 is less than a rounding error.
If I were a climate scientist, I would test varying levels of CO2 to measure the effect on temperature. Take Earth atmosphere with 280PPM in a controlled lab, what's the temperature? Then add 20PPM increments and measure the temperature. What happens if adding 20PPM raises temperature 5F? That would be amazing information, right?
So, what are the numbers? Can someone post one of these mountains?
Spoiler alert: you have no such data.The control is Mars.
Spoiler alert: Mars has been warming too.
And you have no repeatable physical experiments, quantification, nor falsification.Spoiler alert: you have no such data.