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I wonder, what do they think...
Russia's Crackdown On 'Gay Propaganda' And Popular Illiberalism
Mark Adomanis
6/29/13
Over at The Nation, Alec Luhn recently wrote a quite good summary of the recently-passed ban on gay propaganda and the generally perilous state of gay rights in Russia. I encourage everyone to read the full article, particularly because it does an excellent job of showing that Russian gay rights activists are themselves deeply conflicted and divided about what to do next. Some, particularly those that get the most attention in the West, want to focus on holding large public demonstrations of gay pride. Others think that Russian gays should adopt a more cautious stance that is based on coming out to family and close friends and then gradually broadening out from there.*
The point is that Russias gays are not united in lockstep behind a particular issue, strategy, or goal, but are people with all of the messiness, bickering, and spontaneity that that entails. That might sound rather obvious or banal, but in discussions about the ban on gay propaganda there is an unfortunate tendency to lump Russias gays together into some homogeneous and undifferentiated mass.
But what really struck me about Luhns article, what really got me thinking, was the widespread popularity of anti-gay sentiment. The Duma bill banning gay propaganda passed unanimously. Not a single member of the official opposition felt comfortable voting against it. Obviously the opposition doesnt doesnt control the Duma, United Russia does, but the Communists, the LDPR, and other groups have no problem voting against various sorts of economic and fiscal policies. Yes the Duma is hardly a paragon of democratic accountability, but unanimous bills are still quite rare and it seems worth noting how quickly its deputies fell in line behind the legislation.
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Russia's Crackdown On 'Gay Propaganda' And Popular Illiberalism - Forbes
I wonder, what do they think...
Russia's Crackdown On 'Gay Propaganda' And Popular Illiberalism
Mark Adomanis
6/29/13
Over at The Nation, Alec Luhn recently wrote a quite good summary of the recently-passed ban on gay propaganda and the generally perilous state of gay rights in Russia. I encourage everyone to read the full article, particularly because it does an excellent job of showing that Russian gay rights activists are themselves deeply conflicted and divided about what to do next. Some, particularly those that get the most attention in the West, want to focus on holding large public demonstrations of gay pride. Others think that Russian gays should adopt a more cautious stance that is based on coming out to family and close friends and then gradually broadening out from there.*
The point is that Russias gays are not united in lockstep behind a particular issue, strategy, or goal, but are people with all of the messiness, bickering, and spontaneity that that entails. That might sound rather obvious or banal, but in discussions about the ban on gay propaganda there is an unfortunate tendency to lump Russias gays together into some homogeneous and undifferentiated mass.
But what really struck me about Luhns article, what really got me thinking, was the widespread popularity of anti-gay sentiment. The Duma bill banning gay propaganda passed unanimously. Not a single member of the official opposition felt comfortable voting against it. Obviously the opposition doesnt doesnt control the Duma, United Russia does, but the Communists, the LDPR, and other groups have no problem voting against various sorts of economic and fiscal policies. Yes the Duma is hardly a paragon of democratic accountability, but unanimous bills are still quite rare and it seems worth noting how quickly its deputies fell in line behind the legislation.
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Russia's Crackdown On 'Gay Propaganda' And Popular Illiberalism - Forbes
that its stupid to attack your own citizens.
Its you guys who LOVED Putin remember
The way conservatism has devolved into repressive policies toward medical care, constitutional protections and ability to vote for common folk...it may as well BE Authoritarianism...
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I wonder, what do they think...
Russia's Crackdown On 'Gay Propaganda' And Popular Illiberalism
Mark Adomanis
6/29/13
Over at The Nation, Alec Luhn recently wrote a quite good summary of the recently-passed ban on gay propaganda and the generally perilous state of gay rights in Russia. I encourage everyone to read the full article, particularly because it does an excellent job of showing that Russian gay rights activists are themselves deeply conflicted and divided about what to do next. Some, particularly those that get the most attention in the West, want to focus on holding large public demonstrations of gay pride. Others think that Russian gays should adopt a more cautious stance that is based on coming out to family and close friends and then gradually broadening out from there.*
The point is that Russias gays are not united in lockstep behind a particular issue, strategy, or goal, but are people with all of the messiness, bickering, and spontaneity that that entails. That might sound rather obvious or banal, but in discussions about the ban on gay propaganda there is an unfortunate tendency to lump Russias gays together into some homogeneous and undifferentiated mass.
But what really struck me about Luhns article, what really got me thinking, was the widespread popularity of anti-gay sentiment. The Duma bill banning gay propaganda passed unanimously. Not a single member of the official opposition felt comfortable voting against it. Obviously the opposition doesnt doesnt control the Duma, United Russia does, but the Communists, the LDPR, and other groups have no problem voting against various sorts of economic and fiscal policies. Yes the Duma is hardly a paragon of democratic accountability, but unanimous bills are still quite rare and it seems worth noting how quickly its deputies fell in line behind the legislation.
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Russia's Crackdown On 'Gay Propaganda' And Popular Illiberalism - Forbes
that its stupid to attack your own citizens.
Its you guys who LOVED Putin remember
Russia has never been a liberal country; it was a Communist country. While liberals and Communists share a common belief in Marxism, Communists are far more totalitarian and brutal.
Liberal governments allow multiple parties and political viewpoints.
One of the "features" of Communism is that neither of those are allowed.
Additionally, capitalism is also a Liberal construct.
Russia has never been a liberal country; it was a Communist country. While liberals and Communists share a common belief in Marxism, Communists are far more totalitarian and brutal.
Liberal governments allow multiple parties and political viewpoints.
One of the "features" of Communism is that neither of those are allowed.
Additionally, capitalism is also a Liberal construct.
Is that why liberals in this country are trying to get radio, tv, newsprint and internet to comply with a "fairness doctrine?"
Is that why liberals don't tolerate Jews and Christians in this country?
Is that why liberals are forcing Americans to by insurance or be fined?
Today's liberals don't fit the definition of liberals in Kennedy's day, they have become warped and advance tyranny, not freedom.
Russia today is rounding up anyone in Crimea and Russia that speaks out against their illegal invasion of Ukraine.
Liberals deep down support arresting people for their speech that is counter to liberal views...
If it ain't a Harley...it's just not a real motorcycle.Putin's Angels: Inside Russia's Most Infamous Motorcycle Club
The Night Wolves are backed by the Kremlin, fighting in Ukraine and hellbent on restoring the empire
By Damon Tabor October 8, 2015
The Night Wolves, Russia's largest motorcycle gang, are led by their president the Surgeon and backed by their country's president, Vladimir Putin.
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After his swim, the Surgeon strides over to a replica World War II fighter plane. A battle tank, imported from a film studio in Kazakhstan, sits parked nearby in the scrub grass. Both would be incorporated into the Night Wolves' bike show in several weeks — a phantasmagorical spectacle celebrating the Red Army's victory over Hitler and intended to feed Russia's growing Soviet nostalgia. "I'm very excited by the topic of war at the moment," the Surgeon says. "I'm not fucking interested in show just for show. I'm a warrior. I'm fighting for my country, for my history. I'm talking about what Russia is facing now. Especially America, putting the shit on it."
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I had traveled to Russia in July to learn about the vision of the Surgeon and his fellow Nochniye Volki. A charismatic showman with a penchant for provocative bombast, the motorcycle club's leader is perhaps Russia's most recognizable nationalist star. Over the past decade, he has transformed a once-underground biker gang into a self-styled vanguard of patriotic holy warriors, reportedly 5,000 strong, with close ties to the Kremlin. In the Russian media, he can regularly be heard trumpeting the country's greatness while warning that its enemies — America, Europe, homosexuals, liberals, traitorous "fifth columnists" — intend to undermine Mother Russia. He and the other Night Wolves often hold motorcycle rallies to promote Russian patriotism and Orthodox Christianity, making rumbling pilgrimages to churches and holy sites. He has vowed to defend the Kremlin from Maidan-inspired protesters and has pledged to die for Vladimir Putin, the country's president. He has famously declared that "wherever the Night Wolves are, that should be considered Russia." Recently, the club held a three-day anti-NATO rally in Slovakia. Lately, the Surgeon has taken to praising Stalin.
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Page 8 of Putin's Angels: Inside Russia's Most Infamous Motorcycle Club | Rolling Stone
ANd evidently communists are more CONSERVATIVE than liberals.Russia has never been a liberal country; it was a Communist country. While liberals and Communists share a common belief in Marxism, Communists are far more totalitarian and brutal.
See the pretty colored lights dancing against your window pane? Its the cops coming to take you away...soon there will be a knock on the door and away you go...They have come to rescue the world from YOU.Russia has seen what the normalization of homosexuality has done to the United States, how destructive the force is, and will not tolerate its promotion. Good for them. Someone has to stand up the gay mafia.
Someone has to stop obama. Russia stepped up in WWII to stop another mad man from his world wide ambitions. They are stepping up again today.
Russia Boosts Mediterranean Flotilla as U.S. Weighs Syria Strike - Bloomberg
Russia is sending two destroyers, including the Nastoichivy, the flagship of the Baltic Fleet, and the Moskva missile cruiser to the region, Interfax reported today, citing an unidentified Navy official. That follows last weeks dispatch of a reconnaissance ship to the eastern Mediterranean, four days after the deployment of an anti-submarine ship and a missile cruiser to the area, which were reported by Interfax.
Russia is sending a strong signal that the conflict surrounding Syria touches on its interests, to ensure that international law is upheld and there is no bypassing the UN Security Council, Ivan Safranchuk, deputy director of the Foreign Ministrys Institute of Contemporary International Studies in Moscow, said by phone.
Yes, obama is a madman, just like Hitler was a madman. They both thought they were dragging along an ungrateful world into the utopia of their own ambitions.
^ Pretty much gone full bore Russian supporter against her own country.
It's a shame that my own country has become so evil, so depraved, and become ruled by an utterly corrupt madman intent on his own gratification.
I never thought I would see the United States actually become what we fought against for over 200 years.
No I will not support perversion. I will not support a crazy person who imagines they are God. The only person to say "The State, I AM the State" and get away with it was King Louie XVIII. obama isn't entitled.
We need rescuing.