JimBowie1958
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I am amazed at all the 'professional' historians who say ridiculous things like 'There is no record of the Plagues, the Exodus or of a man named Moses.'
1) The Egyptian literature is full of horrible descriptions of their society from the First and Second Intermediary Periods. Here is an example:
The Thera eruption in 1575 BC or so probably produced effects exactly like those described in Exodus.
2) The mouth of the Gulf of Aqaba, AKA the straight of Tiron, is very shallow and narrow and would have been a perfect way to cross the Red Sea, in fact chariot wheels and other wreckage have been found there.
3) No one named Moses in Egypt? LOL, there were plenty of such people named Moses as it was a brief version of any number of nomens like Ahmose or Thutmose, etc, the first syllable being dropped and last syllable being converted to 'Moses'. There are recorded examples of this sort of thing. It is ridiculous to say there no examples of Moses, lolol. That is like saying we have had no Presidents named 'Ricky', lol.
4) Here is a plausible timeline for the Hebrew experience in Egypt.
a) Canaanite tribes migrate into Egypt: 1990 to 1800 BC - this wasn't just Israelites but all kinds of Canaanites. They settle into the area around the Eastern side of the Nile delta and east of it; the Land of Goshen.
b) Hyksos invade Egypt and take over the Canaanite area eastern Nile Delta, then expand to all of lower Egypt. 1650 BC
c) Hyksos king Khyan reigns powerfully over a wealthy Lower Egypt 1610–1580 BC (15th Dynasty)
.....Yanassi his son is mentioned, but no one knows what happened to him, he disappears
d) Thera Volcanic eruption 1575 - causes catastrophic events in Egypt and hastens the end of the Bronze Age civilizations. Egyptian records are full of short ruling kings and warfare in what is called the Second Intermediary Period. Chaos reigns.
e) Apepi reigns over a ruined Lower Egypt and is impoverished. Crowned 1575 BC dies childless in 1540 BC He cannot afford to have his own monuments built so he simply has his name copied over the monuments of other previous kings. Hebrews allowed to leave a ruined and impoverished Egypt.
f) Jericho falls in violent conquest, its walls collapsed outward and burned in fire in 1535 BC based on archeological evidence. The Hebrews had finished 40 years of wandering and arrived in Canaan.
g) The Merneptah Stele recording Israels defeat by Egypt in 1213-1203 BC, so this disproves any later dating after that range of dates.
Moses is referenced by dozens and dozens of ancient writings of many cultures.
To suggest he is purely myth requires the kind of 'thinking' one only finds in Academia.
1) The Egyptian literature is full of horrible descriptions of their society from the First and Second Intermediary Periods. Here is an example:
Nay, but the heart is violent. Plague stalks through the land and blood is everywhere. . . . Nay, but the river is blood. Does a man drink from it? As a human he rejects it. He thirsts for water. . . . Nay, but gates, columns and walls are consumed with fire. … Nay but men are few. He that lays his brother in the ground is everywhere. . . . Nay but the son of the high-born man is no longer to be recognized. . . . The stranger people from outside are come into Egypt. . . . Nay, but corn has perished everywhere. People are stripped of clothing, perfume, and oil. Everyone says “there is no more.” The storehouse is bare. . . . It has come to this. The king has been taken away by poor men. — Ipuwer Papyrus, Leiden Museum5
What do these knucklehead historians want? A timed and dated stamped document that spells out the Exodus by verse and text?The Thera eruption in 1575 BC or so probably produced effects exactly like those described in Exodus.
2) The mouth of the Gulf of Aqaba, AKA the straight of Tiron, is very shallow and narrow and would have been a perfect way to cross the Red Sea, in fact chariot wheels and other wreckage have been found there.
3) No one named Moses in Egypt? LOL, there were plenty of such people named Moses as it was a brief version of any number of nomens like Ahmose or Thutmose, etc, the first syllable being dropped and last syllable being converted to 'Moses'. There are recorded examples of this sort of thing. It is ridiculous to say there no examples of Moses, lolol. That is like saying we have had no Presidents named 'Ricky', lol.
4) Here is a plausible timeline for the Hebrew experience in Egypt.
a) Canaanite tribes migrate into Egypt: 1990 to 1800 BC - this wasn't just Israelites but all kinds of Canaanites. They settle into the area around the Eastern side of the Nile delta and east of it; the Land of Goshen.
b) Hyksos invade Egypt and take over the Canaanite area eastern Nile Delta, then expand to all of lower Egypt. 1650 BC
c) Hyksos king Khyan reigns powerfully over a wealthy Lower Egypt 1610–1580 BC (15th Dynasty)
.....Yanassi his son is mentioned, but no one knows what happened to him, he disappears
d) Thera Volcanic eruption 1575 - causes catastrophic events in Egypt and hastens the end of the Bronze Age civilizations. Egyptian records are full of short ruling kings and warfare in what is called the Second Intermediary Period. Chaos reigns.
e) Apepi reigns over a ruined Lower Egypt and is impoverished. Crowned 1575 BC dies childless in 1540 BC He cannot afford to have his own monuments built so he simply has his name copied over the monuments of other previous kings. Hebrews allowed to leave a ruined and impoverished Egypt.
f) Jericho falls in violent conquest, its walls collapsed outward and burned in fire in 1535 BC based on archeological evidence. The Hebrews had finished 40 years of wandering and arrived in Canaan.
g) The Merneptah Stele recording Israels defeat by Egypt in 1213-1203 BC, so this disproves any later dating after that range of dates.
Moses is referenced by dozens and dozens of ancient writings of many cultures.
To suggest he is purely myth requires the kind of 'thinking' one only finds in Academia.
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