More winning-Obamacare on the ropes

[jc456]

Still waiting for the republicans' plans and solutions. They have had at least 30 years to come up with something. Where is it???

Wait-Obama was just in position to do that and he came up with something illegal. Don't blame just one side-they ALL suck on this.

Exactly

 

[emilynghiem]

The de-obamafication of America continues. We all knew Obamacare was unconstitutional.

Appeals Court Seems Skeptical About Constitutionality of Obamacare Mandate

I know that Hillary Clinton was working on solving our healthcare issues when her husband was president. President Obama tried to solve this issue during his presidency.

Where have the republicans been on this issue since the 1990s? Where are their proposals? Have republicans been working on this issue?

Why do the democrats want my money to solve their problem? I was good with my health care before obammy care teased it! To solve a 9% problem, they fkd 91% of us! You think that’s okay. Enough said.

BTW, wasn’t what obammy care touched what your praising slick Willy for? Too funny! You can’t find a lane

Dear jc456
They envision using the taxes they don't want to pay for foreign military expenses
in other countries, and the taxes they don't want to pay for the death penalty and
other prisons where they'd rather pay for teaching hospitals to treat the sick.

I say, let them redirect their taxes to what they agree to pay for.

Let others pay for the wall, military security and veteran benefits who believe
taxes and federal govt should focus there.

Let liberals invest their taxes into education, medical schools and health care
to replace ailing and failing prison and mental health systems, and rework
the domestic social programs internally.

Give taxpayers a choice of where to direct or deduct taxes.
And quit fighting already.

If you believe in prochoice, go fund those programs.
If you believe in prolife, go fund those.

If you believe in building schools, walls, prisons,
teaching hospitals, or military bases or campus towns
along the border for worker cooperatives and jobs,
go invest in those developments and let others do the same.

Give them what they ask, and let them fund it
with their own taxes. Let others do the same,
and where the budgets need to be reworked,
allow groups to borrow and lend between each other
based on business plans and investment terms they
AGREE to. So the plans have to be cost effective
and sustainable in order to earn support. And after
the best programs are proven to work, people will
agree to implement those publicly through govt.

Just prove it works first, by letting investors
and donors choose to participate and fund
those voluntarily. That's how nonprofits and
businesses build stable programs, it has to
make sense where people choose to patronize
them because they have a reputable record.

 

[Third Party]

The de-obamafication of America continues. We all knew Obamacare was unconstitutional.

Appeals Court Seems Skeptical About Constitutionality of Obamacare Mandate

I know that Hillary Clinton was working on solving our healthcare issues when her husband was president. President Obama tried to solve this issue during his presidency.

Where have the republicans been on this issue since the 1990s? Where are their proposals? Have republicans been working on this issue?

Why do the democrats want my money to solve their problem? I was good with my health care before obammy care teased it! To solve a 9% problem, they fkd 91% of us! You think that’s okay. Enough said.

BTW, wasn’t what obammy care touched what your praising slick Willy for? Too funny! You can’t find a lane

Dear jc456
They envision using the taxes they don't want to pay for foreign military expenses
in other countries, and the taxes they don't want to pay for the death penalty and
other prisons where they'd rather pay for teaching hospitals to treat the sick.

I say, let them redirect their taxes to what they agree to pay for.

Let others pay for the wall, military security and veteran benefits who believe
taxes and federal govt should focus there.

Let liberals invest their taxes into education, medical schools and health care
to replace ailing and failing prison and mental health systems, and rework
the domestic social programs internally.

Give taxpayers a choice of where to direct or deduct taxes.
And quit fighting already.

If you believe in prochoice, go fund those programs.
If you believe in prolife, go fund those.

If you believe in building schools, walls, prisons,
teaching hospitals, or military bases or campus towns
along the border for worker cooperatives and jobs,
go invest in those developments and let others do the same.

Give them what they ask, and let them fund it
with their own taxes. Let others do the same,
and where the budgets need to be reworked,
allow groups to borrow and lend between each other
based on business plans and investment terms they
AGREE to. So the plans have to be cost effective
and sustainable in order to earn support. And after
the best programs are proven to work, people will
agree to implement those publicly through govt.

Just prove it works first, by letting investors
and donors choose to participate and fund
those voluntarily. That's how nonprofits and
businesses build stable programs, it has to
make sense where people choose to patronize
them because they have a reputable record.

Well put, Emily. What is a Constitutionalist/Universalist?

 

[Deno]

The de-obamafication of America continues. We all knew Obamacare was unconstitutional.

Appeals Court Seems Skeptical About Constitutionality of Obamacare Mandate

WINNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What I'd recommend DOTR and Deno
is to argue that the difference in coverage
should be paid for by the politicians, parties and taxpayers
who endorsed ACA because they BELIEVE in paying for health care through govt.

Whichever people violated the Constitution by passing
and enforcing this law through govt should be compelled
to pay the costs themselves to keep those provisions going
they set up for people as they promised.

So I'd start naming people and groups responsible
and assess the costs that should be charged to them.

Since judges can't write that into law, it may take
lawyers writing it up and asking for it as part
of the order.

The ACA and universal healthcare ins, is the thing of the future. Accept it. You can belong to anything you want, but when universal healthcare takes root, you will pay the taxes for it.

You Tards always want everyone else to pay for your shit...

I'm all for helping people that really need it....

But you don't need to take my insurance to do it....

You Tards fluck up everything you touch....

 

[Deno]

The de-obamafication of America continues. We all knew Obamacare was unconstitutional.

Appeals Court Seems Skeptical About Constitutionality of Obamacare Mandate

WINNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What I'd recommend DOTR and Deno
is to argue that the difference in coverage
should be paid for by the politicians, parties and taxpayers
who endorsed ACA because they BELIEVE in paying for health care through govt.

Whichever people violated the Constitution by passing
and enforcing this law through govt should be compelled
to pay the costs themselves to keep those provisions going
they set up for people as they promised.

So I'd start naming people and groups responsible
and assess the costs that should be charged to them.

Since judges can't write that into law, it may take
lawyers writing it up and asking for it as part
of the order.

The ACA and universal healthcare ins, is the thing of the future. Accept it. You can belong to anything you want, but when universal healthcare takes root, you will pay the taxes for it.

Dear Penelope
The best thing about the cooperatives
is you can have the federal programs you want
and that doesn't interfere with people choosing free market
services. You have the best of both choices, and don't
have to mandate either one through govt.

So if you want universal care with a public OPTION,
this is it.

I think you will just be shocked it can be done by
free choice and doesn't require mandating through govt.

Yes, people will GLADLY pay by FREE CHOICE to have
medical coverage including health insurance at half the current costs.

So there is no need to mandate through taxes.

If anything Penelope, because people on both left and right
would PREFER to have the freedom of choice that Cooperatives offer,
that means advocates and political leaders left AND right would
BOTH support 100% tax deductions for paying for health care
services AT COST through cooperatives or any other choice.

So that's better than govt controlling it: the taxpayers
can CHOOSE whether to register for govt funded programs
or other options, and by lobbying together we can set it up
where all that is paid for health care gets DEDUCTED
from taxes (not added).

Best of all worlds, Penelope.
You get your universal care, and paying for it gets fully
deducted from taxes (after left and right figure out this
plan UNITES everyone in agreement so we can change
the tax laws to allow 100% deduction for at cost health care)

Emily this is how you know you are dealing with evil and closed minds rather than simply a misguided concern for the poor. I have posted several times inviting leftists to explain why Mutualism, Distributism, Subsidiarity, Cooperativism are never discussed or offered as alternatives. With no response.
That the answer must always be a metastasizing government tells you that’s what they seek in and for itself...with poverty/hardship/medical needs being only the excuse or occasion to advance the growth of authoritarian government.
You only become a leftist after the soul dies. And it dies from not feeding it. They have never read Chesterton or Day or Belloc and they would, like animals, spit on Rerum novarum and Quadragesimo anno

Speaking of such...

Have you ever seen the documentary on saul alinsky, a wolf in sheep’s clothing?

I dare any liberal to watch it....

 

[DOTR]

The de-obamafication of America continues. We all knew Obamacare was unconstitutional.

Appeals Court Seems Skeptical About Constitutionality of Obamacare Mandate

WINNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What I'd recommend DOTR and Deno
is to argue that the difference in coverage
should be paid for by the politicians, parties and taxpayers
who endorsed ACA because they BELIEVE in paying for health care through govt.

Whichever people violated the Constitution by passing
and enforcing this law through govt should be compelled
to pay the costs themselves to keep those provisions going
they set up for people as they promised.

So I'd start naming people and groups responsible
and assess the costs that should be charged to them.

Since judges can't write that into law, it may take
lawyers writing it up and asking for it as part
of the order.

Thats what I have always advocated. If Nancy Pelosi wants free healthcare the first 120 million should come from her. Then the next 100 million from Hillary. The next 100 million from Bernie Sanders. And so on. Of course they got to be worth hundreds of millions of dollars by giving YOUR money away rather than theirs.

Alternatively we could attack the problem from the other end by going back to the foundation of this country and good government by saying say that without skin in the game you dont vote. Only allowing net taxpayers to vote would create a much better system because it is impossible to bribe people with their own money.

No Representation without Taxation!

 

[Toronado3800]

The de-obamafication of America continues. We all knew Obamacare was unconstitutional.

Appeals Court Seems Skeptical About Constitutionality of Obamacare Mandate

Yeah, a great idea but probably unconstitutional.

Still though, Donald might not want to get the courts all riled up on non-liberal constitutional interpretations of executive powers so I don't know if I'd call it winning.

Unless you want hospitals to throw those who can't pay out in the street still bleeding more than you want a border wall or tanks at a parade.

Some other arrangements must be made-we can't go on this way. How are the Dems coming with their fix as promised in the 2018 elections?

Fix which part of it?

The constitutionality? I don't think the D's won enough seats for a Constitutional Amendment.

 

[Toronado3800]

Unless you want hospitals to throw those who can't pay out in the street still bleeding more than you want a border wall or tanks at a parade.

Hospitals have never done any such thing

What are you saying Dont Taz Me Bro? That we've had socialized medicine since hospitals have been worth going to?

 

[DOTR]

When will you assfucks learn what socialized healthcare really is.

Golfing Gator is aroused.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

When will you assfucks learn what socialized healthcare really is.

Golfing Gator is aroused.

Once again having sexual fantasies about me, this is becoming commonplace.

You might want to seek professional assistance

 

[francoHFW]

The de-obamafication of America continues. We all knew Obamacare was unconstitutional.

Appeals Court Seems Skeptical About Constitutionality of Obamacare Mandate

Yeah, a great idea but probably unconstitutional.

Still though, Donald might not want to get the courts all riled up on non-liberal constitutional interpretations of executive powers so I don't know if I'd call it winning.

Unless you want hospitals to throw those who can't pay out in the street still bleeding more than you want a border wall or tanks at a parade.

Some other arrangements must be made-we can't go on this way. How are the Dems coming with their fix as promised in the 2018 elections?

Trump’s still president

The Dems said they would fix what the Republicans did not-where is it? Or did they over promise?

Right now right now they are trying to stop the GOP from destroying the country for crying out loud LOL. We're going to fix everything after 2021. Next time we'll use the nuclear option and pass Health Care daycare living wage paid parental leave one-month vacation great infrastructure, ID card to end illegal immigration, cheap college and training, and mainly will tax the rich and help the non rich 4 a change.... Yes I am running. LOL

 

[francoHFW]

Still waiting for the republicans' plans and solutions. They have had at least 30 years to come up with something. Where is it???

Wait-Obama was just in position to do that and he came up with something illegal. Don't blame just one side-they ALL suck on this.

Exactly

Actually Obama did not want a mandate nor did he want changes of doctors and plans. The Democratic Congress changed that and then the Democrats had to take the Senate version because Massachusetts elected Scott Brown like morons LOL... Why don't you Chumps change what you want to with it and stop trying to throw the baby out with the bathwater...all Trump does is promise stuff and then not do anything about it. Great for the dupes but...

 

[Third Party]

The de-obamafication of America continues. We all knew Obamacare was unconstitutional.

Appeals Court Seems Skeptical About Constitutionality of Obamacare Mandate

Yeah, a great idea but probably unconstitutional.

Still though, Donald might not want to get the courts all riled up on non-liberal constitutional interpretations of executive powers so I don't know if I'd call it winning.

Unless you want hospitals to throw those who can't pay out in the street still bleeding more than you want a border wall or tanks at a parade.

Some other arrangements must be made-we can't go on this way. How are the Dems coming with their fix as promised in the 2018 elections?

Trump’s still president

The Dems said they would fix what the Republicans did not-where is it? Or did they over promise?

Right now right now they are trying to stop the GOP from destroying the country for crying out loud LOL. We're going to fix everything after 2021. Next time we'll use the nuclear option and pass Health Care daycare living wage paid parental leave one-month vacation great infrastructure, ID card to end illegal immigration, cheap college and training, and mainly will tax the rich and help the non rich 4 a change.... Yes I am running. LOL

Great paragraph, but you forgot to answer the question-WHERE IS THE DEMOCRAT FIX ON HEALTHCARE?

 

[Third Party]

Still waiting for the republicans' plans and solutions. They have had at least 30 years to come up with something. Where is it???

Wait-Obama was just in position to do that and he came up with something illegal. Don't blame just one side-they ALL suck on this.

Exactly

Actually Obama did not want a mandate nor did he want changes of doctors and plans. The Democratic Congress changed that and then the Democrats had to take the Senate version because Massachusetts elected Scott Brown like morons LOL... Why don't you Chumps change what you want to with it and stop trying to throw the baby out with the bathwater...all Trump does is promise stuff and then not do anything about it. Great for the dupes but...

Like I said ALL suck on this.

 

[RealDave]

The de-obamafication of America continues. We all knew Obamacare was unconstitutional.

Appeals Court Seems Skeptical About Constitutionality of Obamacare Mandate

WINNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What I'd recommend DOTR and Deno
is to argue that the difference in coverage
should be paid for by the politicians, parties and taxpayers
who endorsed ACA because they BELIEVE in paying for health care through govt.

Whichever people violated the Constitution by passing
and enforcing this law through govt should be compelled
to pay the costs themselves to keep those provisions going
they set up for people as they promised.

So I'd start naming people and groups responsible
and assess the costs that should be charged to them.

Since judges can't write that into law, it may take
lawyers writing it up and asking for it as part
of the order.

The ACA and universal healthcare ins, is the thing of the future. Accept it. You can belong to anything you want, but when universal healthcare takes root, you will pay the taxes for it.

You Tards always want everyone else to pay for your shit...

I'm all for helping people that really need it....

But you don't need to take my insurance to do it....

You Tards fluck up everything you touch....

Your employer likely carrires your fat ass. So don't pretend you pay for it.

 

[Dana7360]

The de-obamafication of America continues. We all knew Obamacare was unconstitutional.

Appeals Court Seems Skeptical About Constitutionality of Obamacare Mandate

So you're happy with the prospect of millions of Americans losing their insurance and dying.

I've had employer provided insurance for over 30 years. It was through my ex and his work.

I got divorced. The law allows me to stay on that insurance through COBRA for 3 years. That 3 years will expire at the end of this year.

Cancer was removed from both of my breasts in 2011. I had the audacity to fight with everything I have and won.

Because of that I'm now preexisting condition.

The cancer I had was receptive at 100% to 2 hormones my body naturally produces. Which means my own body chemistry is programmed to be the food for that cancer to live and grow. Which means that the question isn't if but when the cancer returns.

If you get your way, I will die. Just as 4 women in my family died of the same cancer before me.

It doesn't have to be that way. You don't have to take insurance from me. I paid into that fund for decades and now, I lose all that money I paid into it to cover my medical expenses. On top of that you want to make sure I will never be able to buy insurance again which will kill me.

I'm not surprised by your actions.

I'm disgusted and sickened.

 

[Deno]

The de-obamafication of America continues. We all knew Obamacare was unconstitutional.

Appeals Court Seems Skeptical About Constitutionality of Obamacare Mandate

WINNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What I'd recommend DOTR and Deno
is to argue that the difference in coverage
should be paid for by the politicians, parties and taxpayers
who endorsed ACA because they BELIEVE in paying for health care through govt.

Whichever people violated the Constitution by passing
and enforcing this law through govt should be compelled
to pay the costs themselves to keep those provisions going
they set up for people as they promised.

So I'd start naming people and groups responsible
and assess the costs that should be charged to them.

Since judges can't write that into law, it may take
lawyers writing it up and asking for it as part
of the order.

The ACA and universal healthcare ins, is the thing of the future. Accept it. You can belong to anything you want, but when universal healthcare takes root, you will pay the taxes for it.

You Tards always want everyone else to pay for your shit...

I'm all for helping people that really need it....

But you don't need to take my insurance to do it....

You Tards fluck up everything you touch....

Your employer likely carrires your fat ass. So don't pretend you pay for it.

I weigh 165 pounds dip shit....

I could work your dumb ass in the ground.

 

[francoHFW]

Yeah, a great idea but probably unconstitutional.

Still though, Donald might not want to get the courts all riled up on non-liberal constitutional interpretations of executive powers so I don't know if I'd call it winning.

Unless you want hospitals to throw those who can't pay out in the street still bleeding more than you want a border wall or tanks at a parade.

Some other arrangements must be made-we can't go on this way. How are the Dems coming with their fix as promised in the 2018 elections?

Trump’s still president

The Dems said they would fix what the Republicans did not-where is it? Or did they over promise?

Right now right now they are trying to stop the GOP from destroying the country for crying out loud LOL. We're going to fix everything after 2021. Next time we'll use the nuclear option and pass Health Care daycare living wage paid parental leave one-month vacation great infrastructure, ID card to end illegal immigration, cheap college and training, and mainly will tax the rich and help the non rich 4 a change.... Yes I am running. LOL

Great paragraph, but you forgot to answer the question-WHERE IS THE DEMOCRAT FIX ON HEALTHCARE?

It is being blocked by bought off hypocrite Republicans as always of course duh. Since Reagan that has happened LOL next time we should do the nuclear option.

 

[francoHFW]

Still waiting for the republicans' plans and solutions. They have had at least 30 years to come up with something. Where is it???

Wait-Obama was just in position to do that and he came up with something illegal. Don't blame just one side-they ALL suck on this.

Exactly

Actually Obama did not want a mandate nor did he want changes of doctors and plans. The Democratic Congress changed that and then the Democrats had to take the Senate version because Massachusetts elected Scott Brown like morons LOL... Why don't you Chumps change what you want to with it and stop trying to throw the baby out with the bathwater...all Trump does is promise stuff and then not do anything about it. Great for the dupes but...

Like I said ALL suck on this.

no the Republicans do great with their reconciliation law in cutting taxes on the rich and giant corporations and screwing everybody else-all they want.. they only need 51 votes in the Senate with reconciliation their law from 1974- thanks tricky dick. But the Democrats need 60 votes for reform -clever scam... And this filibuster has got to go. Nuclear option from now on. then people will know what Democrats actually want for a change, especially dupes....

 

[francoHFW]

WINNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What I'd recommend DOTR and Deno
is to argue that the difference in coverage
should be paid for by the politicians, parties and taxpayers
who endorsed ACA because they BELIEVE in paying for health care through govt.

Whichever people violated the Constitution by passing
and enforcing this law through govt should be compelled
to pay the costs themselves to keep those provisions going
they set up for people as they promised.

So I'd start naming people and groups responsible
and assess the costs that should be charged to them.

Since judges can't write that into law, it may take
lawyers writing it up and asking for it as part
of the order.

The ACA and universal healthcare ins, is the thing of the future. Accept it. You can belong to anything you want, but when universal healthcare takes root, you will pay the taxes for it.

You Tards always want everyone else to pay for your shit...

I'm all for helping people that really need it....

But you don't need to take my insurance to do it....

You Tards fluck up everything you touch....

Your employer likely carrires your fat ass. So don't pretend you pay for it.

I weigh 165 pounds dip shit....

I could work your dumb ass in the ground.

boys boys, you do know that politics comes from policy and that is what we're supposed to be debating.... You doops never ever ever think about policy, just phony scandals and free stuff and the poor Rich having to pay so much in taxes LOL wrong.