More Than 75% Of Americans Aged 17-24 Aren’t Fit For Military Service: DOD

[Doug1943]

That idea would be a windfall for republicans

But the dems would fire on Fort Sumter again before allowing it to become law

Hmmm... yes, veterans tend to lean conservative. But they might not turn out to be the sort of conservative with whom the Republican Party leadership would be comfortable.

Think about it: in the military, you're living under socialism. The government provides your meals, your housing, your clothes, your medical care and, sometimes, your foreign travel. (Try to avoid the foreign travel.)

So it should be easy to convince vets that we all need more of the same.

 

[Mac-7]

Hmmm... yes, veterans tend to lean conservative. But they might not turn out to be the sort of conservative with whom the Republican Party leadership would be comfortable.

Think about it: in the military, you're living under socialism. The government provides your meals, your housing, your clothes, your medical care and, sometimes, your foreign travel. (Try to avoid the foreign travel.)

So it should be easy to convince vets that we all need more of the same.

If the military didnt turn red since 1776, it wont be lured into socialism now unless only queers are signing up

 

[DGS49]

Little-known fact: Project 1000 was the initiative that resulted in Cassius Clay being drafted. He had scored under 15% on the AFQT, but when they lowered the minimum to 10% (roughly) he was called.

And for the remainder of his life, the myth of his intelligence prevailed, largely because of the bloviating praise of one Howard Cosell. Whenever he would say something stupid, rather than accepting it as the statement of a near-idiot, it was analyzed into the wisdom of the ages.

At least half of the U.S. population believes that the military draft is unconstitutional. I think they should bring it back just to show people that they DO owe something to their country, even if they constantly whine about it.

 

[Flash]

I suspect this is bullshit put out by Biden's military to hide the fact that Biden fucked military recruitment big time with his stupid program of wokeness.

Shortly after assuming office Potatohead let it be known that he didn't want White Patriots in the military. He wanted queers, affirmative action Negroes, transsexuals and unqualified women. Hell the military even ran recruitment advertisements targeting the diversity.

The fact is that Patriotic Whites from the South and Midwest have always been the backbone on the military but they are no longer welcome. Whites are being passed over for promotions and told that they are evil for being White in CRT training.

The military sucks nowadays because of the leadership of Potatohead. White Patriots need not apply.

Amazing isn't it that the Chinese were ecstatic with joy when Potatohead won. The guy they made rich is now screwing up the American military. It is like it is all part of plan, isn't it?

 

[Mushroom]

Little-known fact: Project 1000 was the initiative that resulted in Cassius Clay being drafted. He had scored under 15% on the AFQT, but when they lowered the minimum to 10% (roughly) he was called.

That was Project 100,000.

At least half of the U.S. population believes that the military draft is unconstitutional.

Does not matter at all what people believe. It is completely irrelevant to reality.

 

[Doug1943]

What's happening to the military is really alarming. You have to look not just at what the military is now, but the direction of motion ... what will it be like in ten or fifteen years.

AND ... what makes it alarming-squared or -cubed, is that the people running this country still act like the have a real military, like the one we had in Korea or Vietnam or Iraq or Afghanistan. That is, they're all over the world, shoving the Russians, daring the Chinese to retake their lost province, acting like it's 1993 instead of 2023.

If we were just going to slowly melt into a giant continental Denmark [nothing against the courageous Danes, it's just that they don't have to worry about leading the Free World in a big war], then no problem, provided we keep the nuclear deterrent. No one is going to invade us.

But if we're going to keep our 400 military bases around the world, commit to defending Japan and Australia and Latvia etc, have an 'African Command', etc ... with a 'woke' military ... .which may have to throw soldiers or Marines into real on-the-ground combat... the mind boggles..

There are some groups trying to push back on this, like StarrsUS.com ... but the Left control the Federal government, and they're determined to make the military 'woke'. (I doubt it's because they're in the pay of China or Russia [anyway, isn't Russia supposed to control our side?], but they might as well be.)

Just think about it: a Marine rifle company, with a gay platoon leader or two, some transgender or gender-fluid Gunnery sergeants ... but in compensation, each rifle squad will have one or two nublile young women! Just perfect for unit cohesion!!

Anyway, young patriots should go into ROTC if they can and do a spell in the military; patriots under 36 should join the National Guard or State Guard. And all patriots should, in their local organizations, get as 'close' to the military as they can. Volunteer for the USO if necessary.

 

[Ringo]

They are coming, be afraid, Putin!

 

[Jarlaxle]

Ha. Don't I know that. Basic Combat Training is the only diet program which is guaranteed to work.

The problem is, people with low IQs are a liability in combat. They get killed much more frequently, and get others killed as well. [ Project 100,000 - Wikipedia ]

Easy solution: make successful completion of military service a condition of being able to vote. (And allow absolutely anyone to be able to join the military.)

So...people who CANNOT serve can't vote? Fuck off.

 

[Doug1943]

So...people who CANNOT serve can't vote? Fuck off.

No. In a situation where you have to earn the right to vote, by military service, everyone must be allowed to undertake military service. I think I said that in my post.

 

[Jarlaxle]

What's happening to the military is really alarming. You have to look not just at what the military is now, but the direction of motion ... what will it be like in ten or fifteen years.

AND ... what makes it alarming-squared or -cubed, is that the people running this country still act like the have a real military, like the one we had in Korea or Vietnam or Iraq or Afghanistan. That is, they're all over the world, shoving the Russians, daring the Chinese to retake their lost province, acting like it's 1993 instead of 2023.

If we were just going to slowly melt into a giant continental Denmark [nothing against the courageous Danes, it's just that they don't have to worry about leading the Free World in a big war], then no problem, provided we keep the nuclear deterrent. No one is going to invade us.

But if we're going to keep our 400 military bases around the world, commit to defending Japan and Australia and Latvia etc, have an 'African Command', etc ... with a 'woke' military ... .which may have to throw soldiers or Marines into real on-the-ground combat... the mind boggles..

There are some groups trying to push back on this, like StarrsUS.com ... but the Left control the Federal government, and they're determined to make the military 'woke'. (I doubt it's because they're in the pay of China or Russia [anyway, isn't Russia supposed to control our side?], but they might as well be.)

Just think about it: a Marine rifle company, with a gay platoon leader or two, some transgender or gender-fluid Gunnery sergeants ... but in compensation, each rifle squad will have one or two nublile young women! Just perfect for unit cohesion!!

Anyway, young patriots should go into ROTC if they can and do a spell in the military; patriots under 36 should join the National Guard or State Guard. And all patriots should, in their local organizations, get as 'close' to the military as they can. Volunteer for the USO if necessary.

Time to walk away. Tell the rest of the world they're on their own, close all bases, remove all troops outside the United States except Embassy and consulate personnel.

 

[Jarlaxle]

No. In a situation where you have to earn the right to vote, by military service, everyone must be allowed to undertake military service. I think I said that in my post.

So...you'll have a guy with one leg serving? A dude with MS? A diabetic? An asthmatic?

 

[Mushroom]

No. In a situation where you have to earn the right to vote, by military service, everyone must be allowed to undertake military service. I think I said that in my post.

 

[Ringo]

If you want to understand the degree of illiteracy of a person, you can watch videos on YouTube of americans on the street answering questions on, for example, geography, but the best way to determine the degree of illiteracy of a person is when he puts Hitler and Stalin in the same position as criminals...

 

[Mushroom]

the best way to determine the degree of illiteracy of a person is when he puts Hitler and Stalin in the same position as criminals

I see, so obviously you do not consider them to be criminals.

 

[Ringo]

I see, so obviously you do not consider them to be criminals.

Stalin as leader of the USSR and as Supreme Commander-in-Chief defeated Hitler and saved the lives of millions of people destined by German Nazism to be slaves or the dead.
Stalin liberated the еuropeans from nazism and for that, they will always hate him.

 

[Mushroom]

Stalin as leader of the USSR and as Supreme Commander-in-Chief defeated Hitler and saved the lives of millions of people destined by German Nazism to be slaves or the dead.
Stalin liberated the еuropeans from nazism and for that, they will always hate him.

Which has nothing to do with anything but your hero worship of the guy.

Stick to reality, not to your fantasies. Both were Totalitarian leaders who supported huge armies as a way to remain in power.

And wait, you condemned me for comparing Hitler and Stalin to criminals. So in reality, you are only upset I put your hero in the same category.

 

[Doug1943]

So...you'll have a guy with one leg serving? A dude with MS? A diabetic? An asthmatic?

Yes. In a society where military service is a necessary precondition to voting, it is only fair to allow everyone -- even a quadrapeligic -- to serve.

However, if your idea of military service is derived from Hollywood -- from whence most Americans get their worldview -- then of course this sounds crazy. But the reality is, only a small fraction of a military will be pulling triggers, even in a shooting war. However, a movie about people driving forklifts, or approving requests for extended leave, or filling in spreadsheet cells with orders for toilet paper, wouldn't sell tickets.

So we'll just have to find some way for the quadrapeligic to risk his life, even if only notionally.

 

[DudleySmith]

I thought all those 'hardworking' illegal aliens and their anchor babies were going to change all that. Obviously not eh?

 

[Doug1943]

So you believe Stalin and Hitler wanted an electorate of responsible voters, people who by their previous actions had shown that they were willing to put the interests of the state ahead of their own? (Which is the idea behind making voluntary military service the sole requirement for having the franchise.)

No, both of these men had societies in which everyone 'voted' occasionally, and where 98 or 99% of the vote was, supposedly, for the ruling party. The totalitarian mentality requires unanimity, which is the idea underlying the 'woke' persecution of those who commit thoughtcrime.

 

[Mushroom]

So you believe Stalin and Hitler wanted an electorate of responsible voters, people who by their previous actions had shown that they were willing to put the interests of the state ahead of their own? (Which is the idea behind making voluntary military service the sole requirement for having the franchise.)

Wow, you almost perfectly nailed the definition of "Socialism" there, something that both of them believed in.

But tell me, if your dream came true, how are we going to handle if say half of those aged 18-24 if they want to join the military? That is over 30 million people, so if only half decided to join for that vote, what is the military going to do with over 15 million more people in uniform?

You are aware that is over 4 million larger than the US military in WWII, right?

No, I am laughing as it is absolutely impossible. And if most are not fit for service now, what do we do? Make the military accept them?