More mass shootings than what makes the news

[Luddly Neddite]

This is obscene. Make all the excuses you want but really, there is nothing that anyone can say that makes this okay. All you who think you know what the framers of the Constitution were thinking - There is simply no way that this is what they had in mind.

Mass Shootings Since Newtown

Sept. 16, 2013 - Washington, D.C. - 13 dead (including gunman)

Defense contract employee and former Navy reservist Aaron Alexis, 34, allegedly opened fire shortly after 8 a.m. inside building 197 in the Washington Navy Yard, killing 12 people and wounding more than a dozen others. Alexis was slain in a gun battle with police.

Sept. 11, 2013 - Crab Orchard, Tenn. - 4 dead

Jacob Allen Bennett, 26, was arrested in the shooting deaths of a woman and three teenagers. Their bodies were found in a car about 50 miles west of Knoxville, Tenn.

August 14, 2013 - Oklahoma City, Okla. - 4 dead

Daniel Livingston Green, 40, was arrested on four counts of first-degree murder, after his mother, sister and her two children were discovered fatally shot inside their home.

August 11, 2013 - Omaha, Neb. - 4 dead

Nikko Jenkins, 26, was arrested for allegedly shooting four people in the head. Police say three of the four victims had no connection to Jenkins.

Aug. 7, 2013 - Dallas - 4 dead

Erbie Lee Bowser, 44, a former teacher and Dallas Mavericks hip-hop dancer, was charged with two counts of capital murder after police said he attacked the homes of his estranged wife and his girlfriend, killing both women and two of their children. Four additional people were wounded in the attacks.

July 26, 2013 - Hialeah, Fla. - 7 dead (including gunman)

Police say Pedro Vargas, 42, went on a shooting spree in his South Florida apartment complex, killing the building's two managers, a family of three, and a man returning from his son's boxing practice. Before the attack, Vargas called the police asking the dispatcher to run the license plate of a vehicle parked outside the building, after reporting he had been followed and threatened by people doing witchcraft.

Vargas was killed by a SWAT team after an eight-hour stand-off with police, during which he took two people hostage. The hostages were rescued when the SWAT team stormed the apartment.

July 26, 2013 - Clarksburg, W. Va. - 4 dead

Sidney Muller, 27, was arrested on four counts of first-degree murder for allegedly killing two individuals after a drug deal gone wrong. Muller allegedly then turned his weapon on two passersby, a father and his son who were delivering the local newspaper, killing them.

June 7, 2013 - Santa Monica, Calif. - 5 dead (including gunman)

Police say John Zawahri, 23, armed with a homemade assault rifle and high-capacity magazines, killed his brother and father at their home and then headed to Santa Monica College, where he carjacked a woman, ordering her to drive him around while he fired at other people. The woman escaped unharmed but two other people were gunned down.

Zawahri was confronted by police outside the school's library. They traded fire and police officers ultimately shot him dead.

May 11, 2013 - Waynesville, Ind. - 4 dead

Four bodies were discovered in a home after a vicious killing that authorities said was a drug-related crime. One victim's son returned home to find the bodies and reported them to 911. Police say Samuel Sallee, 55, is the prime suspect in the case.

May 10, 2013 - Fernley, Nev. - 5 dead

Jeremiah Bean, 25, was arrested days after allegedly killing an elderly couple in their home, then a newspaper delivery man and another couple nearby. Police say the first attack went undetected, giving Bean the opportunity to commit the three others. He was arraigned on 19 counts, including first-degree murder, arson and burglary.

April 24, 2013 - Manchester, Ill. - 5 dead

Rick Odell Smith, 43, allegedly stormed a home, killing five members of the same family. Smith had been in a dispute with at least one of the victims, potentially over the custody of a child, police said. The five victims included a grandmother, her granddaughter, the granddaughter's boyfriend and their two children.

April 21, 2013 - Federal Way, Wash. - 4 dead (including gunman)

A domestic-violence homicide claimed three additional lives before the gunman was killed by responding officers. Police say Dennis Clark III, 27, shot and killed his girlfriend in their shared apartment before killing two witnesses in the building's parking lot and a third victim in another apartment.

April 18, 2013 - Akron, Ohio - 4 dead

Derrick Brantley and Deshanon Haywood, both 21, were each charged for the murder of four adults, two men and two women, who had been found shot in the head in a townhouse basement. Police say two guns were used.

March 13, 2013 - Herkimer County, N.Y. - 4 dead

In a shooting rampage that spanned two upstate New York villages, Kurt Meyers, 64, allegedly took the lives of four people. Police say Meyers first opened fire in a barber shop in Mohawk, killing two customers, one a retired corrections officer. The gunman then fled to an auto care business in neighboring Herkimer and fatally shot an employee and a customer who was a 23-year veteran of the state Department of Corrections. According to authorities, the gunman had no money, no job and was maxed out on his credit cards.

Jan. 19, 2013 - Albuquerque, N.M. - 5 dead

Nehemiah Griego, 15, is accused of killing both his parents and three younger siblings. According to police documents, Griego shot his mother while she slept, then killed his brother and sisters after they woke up. Griego told authorities he ambushed his father, who was returning home from work, with a semi-automatic rifle that his parents owned. All victims appeared to have gunshot wounds to the head. New Mexico authorities also report that the teen had planned to go to Walmart and randomly shoot people.

Jan. 7, 2013 - Tulsa, Okla. - 4 dead

Brothers Cedric Poore, 39, and James Poore, 32, are accused of killing four women, two of whom were twins. The victims, found in an apartment, were all mothers, and a 3-year-old boy was also found unharmed.

There Have Been More Mass Shootings Since Newtown Than You've Heard About (INFOGRAPHIC)

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Keep in mind that in order to be called a "mass shooting", there have to be at least 4 dead.

IOW, this doesn't count all the single murders or murders of 2 or 3 people.

This has gotten so commonplace, we now have rules for what we call various numbers of murder victims.

 

[PredFan]

It is obsene. And it won't stop until we address the real problem instead of pushing a stupid gun control aganda.

 

[Yurt]

whoever said this was ok and that this is what the founders wanted?

hint: no one, luddly is lying again

 

[TemplarKormac]

Yeah, just another excuse to take away guns from law abiding citizens.

Hint: It's the ones breaking the law we should be worried about.

 

[whitehall]

The radical left can't seem to get enough of them. The simple solution is to enforce the freaking laws on the books or fire the people in charge and get someone else to enforce the laws on the books. Every mass shooter was a democrat and they were all crazy. What does that tell you?

 

[Nosmo King]

I'm adopting the gun nut outlook on mass shootings. In other words, I'm going to be supremely indifferent to the phenomena. The piles of corpses no longer shock and revolt. As with the gun nuts, I accept the cost of gun lust as the lives of the innocent.

I will deny that there is such thing as an "assault weapon" because doing so relieves the guilt over doing nothing about them. I will use the 'logic' of the gun nut and claim that since there are so many assault weapons on the street, there can be no solution to the violence they create. I know that makes no sense, but something must act as an analgesic to the pain of mass shootings.

Bullets thumping into first and second graders at Christmas did nothing to illustrate the venal problem we have with guns in this country. Following other massacres in Colorado, sober responsible legislators tried to enact tougher gun laws. A recall election was held and the gun nuts had a little clam bake to celebrate their victory over responsibility.

So with dead children, dead innocent victims in schools, theaters, temples, workplaces and city streets, the gun nuts flaunt their lust for weapons better suited to the battlefield and not in private hands by first citing their constitutional right to wreck havoc on the innocent population. And then denying that the weapons of choice for the delusional and sane alike really exist at all.

I'm following the gun nuts lead on this current tragedy. I'm shrugging my shoulders, forgetting my morality and sticking an NRA sticker on my car. After all, life is a series of trade offs. A desire to be Rambo and carrying deadly weapons certainly trumps the lives of children and innocent adults at the hands of madmen with those unnecessarily lethal weapons. God and the constitution tell me so.

 

[whitehall]

The myth that the radical left promotes and apparently believes is that mass shootings are done by bubba right wing gun nuts and exactly the opposite is true. Anybody think that the orange haired nut case who shot up a theater was a "right wing extremist". The Tucson shooter was the son of card carrying democrats and likewise the Kindergarten shooter. The Navy Yard shooter was hardly a right wing gun nut. The dirty little secret is that the left wing encourages insane hatred and hides anti-social behavior. The lazy left seems to think more laws are the solution when they impede the enforcement of laws on the books.

 

[hortysir]

Keep in mind that in order to be called a "mass shooting", there have to be at least 4 dead.

IOW, this doesn't count all the single murders or murders of 2 or 3 people.

This has gotten so commonplace, we now have rules for what we call various numbers of murder victims.

You can sensationalize it all you want.
It IS tragic when even one life is lost.

But, statistically, these "mass murders" comprise a mere 1/10th of one percent of all murders in America

 

[PredFan]

Again, these atrocities will continue to happen as long as we ignore the real problem and try to take guns from the innocent. You lefties can't wait to wade into the blood of the victims and push your tyranny.

Fuck off dumbasses.


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[Samson]

Keep in mind that in order to be called a "mass shooting", there have to be at least 4 dead.

IOW, this doesn't count all the single murders or murders of 2 or 3 people.

This has gotten so commonplace, we now have rules for what we call various numbers of murder victims.

You can sensationalize it all you want.
It IS tragic when even one life is lost.

But, statistically, these "mass murders" comprise a mere 1/10th of one percent of all murders in America

How did four (4) murders become the magic number for "mass murders?"


Answer: Five (5) would not allow the Stats to be inflated for Luddley's agenda.

 

[bodecea]

Keep in mind that in order to be called a "mass shooting", there have to be at least 4 dead.

IOW, this doesn't count all the single murders or murders of 2 or 3 people.

This has gotten so commonplace, we now have rules for what we call various numbers of murder victims.

Solution. Let's not call it a "mass shooting" unless there are 10 or more victims. Problem solved.

 

[percysunshine]

Luddlys straw men are not lasting as long as they use to. Must be age.

 

[Nosmo King]

We cannot insist on through back ground checks or waiting periods for assault weapons because those measures aren't 100% effective, so why try? Besides, they present an infringement of our rights to carry the same weapons soldiers do. We call ourselves "responsible gun owners" because our weapons aren't used in mass shootings. But we will do nothing to ban their manufacture, sale, distribution and possession because that will impact the bottom line of the merchants of death, er, ah, gun makers.


We simply have to adjust our arcane morality and accept the fact that the mentally addled, the criminal and the psychopath must be assured the same rights as us, the responsible gun owners.

Our collective complacency will surely serve to expand the availability of weapons to the lucid and the insane alike. So long as those gun makers pull in heavy profits, all we gun nuts see is sunny skies, and the occasional community memorial service. But hey! Someone has to make the candles for all those crybabies! Maybe along with gun and ammo stock in my portfolio, I should include funeral services and memorial candle makers.

 

[Steven_R]

We simply have to adjust our arcane morality and accept the fact that the mentally addled, the criminal and the psychopath must be assured the same rights as us, the responsible gun owners.

This is where your sarcasm fails. Virtually no one on the pro-gun side of the equation is saying violent felons and nutjobs should be able to have more access to guns. If anything, a revolving door justice system and gutting the mental illness laws in the 70s and 80s is part of the problem we have now. What we're saying is background check laws don't work (or else convicted felons and crazy people wouldn't keep being in these stories) and that treating the law abiding like we're all criminals in waiting isn't the answer either.

 

[Harry Dresden]

I'm adopting the gun nut outlook on mass shootings. In other words, I'm going to be supremely indifferent to the phenomena. The piles of corpses no longer shock and revolt. As with the gun nuts, I accept the cost of gun lust as the lives of the innocent.

I will deny that there is such thing as an "assault weapon" because doing so relieves the guilt over doing nothing about them. I will use the 'logic' of the gun nut and claim that since there are so many assault weapons on the street, there can be no solution to the violence they create. I know that makes no sense, but something must act as an analgesic to the pain of mass shootings.

Bullets thumping into first and second graders at Christmas did nothing to illustrate the venal problem we have with guns in this country. Following other massacres in Colorado, sober responsible legislators tried to enact tougher gun laws. A recall election was held and the gun nuts had a little clam bake to celebrate their victory over responsibility.

So with dead children, dead innocent victims in schools, theaters, temples, workplaces and city streets, the gun nuts flaunt their lust for weapons better suited to the battlefield and not in private hands by first citing their constitutional right to wreck havoc on the innocent population. And then denying that the weapons of choice for the delusional and sane alike really exist at all.

I'm following the gun nuts lead on this current tragedy. I'm shrugging my shoulders, forgetting my morality and sticking an NRA sticker on my car. After all, life is a series of trade offs. A desire to be Rambo and carrying deadly weapons certainly trumps the lives of children and innocent adults at the hands of madmen with those unnecessarily lethal weapons. God and the constitution tell me so.

Bullets thumping into first and second graders at Christmas did nothing to illustrate the venal problem we have with guns in this country.

why should it?.....little kids have been getting shot in the inner cities long before that incidence and nothing has been done about that....why is a bunch of white kids getting shot any different then a bunch black and brown kids?......

 

[Nosmo King]

I'm adopting the gun nut outlook on mass shootings. In other words, I'm going to be supremely indifferent to the phenomena. The piles of corpses no longer shock and revolt. As with the gun nuts, I accept the cost of gun lust as the lives of the innocent.

I will deny that there is such thing as an "assault weapon" because doing so relieves the guilt over doing nothing about them. I will use the 'logic' of the gun nut and claim that since there are so many assault weapons on the street, there can be no solution to the violence they create. I know that makes no sense, but something must act as an analgesic to the pain of mass shootings.

Bullets thumping into first and second graders at Christmas did nothing to illustrate the venal problem we have with guns in this country. Following other massacres in Colorado, sober responsible legislators tried to enact tougher gun laws. A recall election was held and the gun nuts had a little clam bake to celebrate their victory over responsibility.

So with dead children, dead innocent victims in schools, theaters, temples, workplaces and city streets, the gun nuts flaunt their lust for weapons better suited to the battlefield and not in private hands by first citing their constitutional right to wreck havoc on the innocent population. And then denying that the weapons of choice for the delusional and sane alike really exist at all.

I'm following the gun nuts lead on this current tragedy. I'm shrugging my shoulders, forgetting my morality and sticking an NRA sticker on my car. After all, life is a series of trade offs. A desire to be Rambo and carrying deadly weapons certainly trumps the lives of children and innocent adults at the hands of madmen with those unnecessarily lethal weapons. God and the constitution tell me so.

Bullets thumping into first and second graders at Christmas did nothing to illustrate the venal problem we have with guns in this country.

why should it?.....little kids have been getting shot in the inner cities long before that incidence and nothing has been done about that....why is a bunch of white kids getting shot any different then a bunch black and brown kids?......

Workers died in industrial accidents before the Triangle Shirtwaist fire. But that horrific event showed the country the true danger and exploitation of the system set up as it was. And the nation reacted.

The total indifference and the moral rationalization that the guns nuts tried after Newtown showed us two important things about the gun nuts and their warped, juvenile 'culture': 1) They are heartless and feckless and cruel and selfish. 2) they will rationalize any tragedy to justify their gun lust, even the multiple deaths of innocent children.

A pox upon those who are so glib in the face of death and tragedy.

 

[Harry Dresden]

I'm adopting the gun nut outlook on mass shootings. In other words, I'm going to be supremely indifferent to the phenomena. The piles of corpses no longer shock and revolt. As with the gun nuts, I accept the cost of gun lust as the lives of the innocent.

I will deny that there is such thing as an "assault weapon" because doing so relieves the guilt over doing nothing about them. I will use the 'logic' of the gun nut and claim that since there are so many assault weapons on the street, there can be no solution to the violence they create. I know that makes no sense, but something must act as an analgesic to the pain of mass shootings.

Bullets thumping into first and second graders at Christmas did nothing to illustrate the venal problem we have with guns in this country. Following other massacres in Colorado, sober responsible legislators tried to enact tougher gun laws. A recall election was held and the gun nuts had a little clam bake to celebrate their victory over responsibility.

So with dead children, dead innocent victims in schools, theaters, temples, workplaces and city streets, the gun nuts flaunt their lust for weapons better suited to the battlefield and not in private hands by first citing their constitutional right to wreck havoc on the innocent population. And then denying that the weapons of choice for the delusional and sane alike really exist at all.

I'm following the gun nuts lead on this current tragedy. I'm shrugging my shoulders, forgetting my morality and sticking an NRA sticker on my car. After all, life is a series of trade offs. A desire to be Rambo and carrying deadly weapons certainly trumps the lives of children and innocent adults at the hands of madmen with those unnecessarily lethal weapons. God and the constitution tell me so.

Bullets thumping into first and second graders at Christmas did nothing to illustrate the venal problem we have with guns in this country.

why should it?.....little kids have been getting shot in the inner cities long before that incidence and nothing has been done about that....why is a bunch of white kids getting shot any different then a bunch black and brown kids?......

Workers died in industrial accidents before the Triangle Shirtwaist fire. But that horrific event showed the country the true danger and exploitation of the system set up as it was. And the nation reacted.

The total indifference and the moral rationalization that the guns nuts tried after Newtown showed us two important things about the gun nuts and their warped, juvenile 'culture': 1) They are heartless and feckless and cruel and selfish. 2) they will rationalize any tragedy to justify their gun lust, even the multiple deaths of innocent children.

A pox upon those who are so glib in the face of death and tragedy.

sure as hell doesnt answer what i said does it?.....now why are their deaths supposed to make everyone suddenly become aware of gun violence when kids in the inner cities have been dying weekly for years due to gun violence?.....why dont you just come out and say it.....the darkies kids dont matter as much as the wealthier white kids do.....

 

[Noomi]

Yeah, just another excuse to take away guns from law abiding citizens.

Hint: It's the ones breaking the law we should be worried about.

That is all well and good, but you can't do anything about that until they actually kill someone, which is why you need BACKGROUND CHECKS!

 

[TemplarKormac]

Yeah, just another excuse to take away guns from law abiding citizens.

Hint: It's the ones breaking the law we should be worried about.

That is all well and good, but you can't do anything about that until they actually kill someone, which is why you need BACKGROUND CHECKS!

Sure, but these people don't adhere to background checks. There will always, I repeat, ALWAYS be those who slip the system. Remember, an utter disdain for the law is what makes a criminal not obey gun laws, Noomi. Tis the essence of being a criminal.