And yet Texas more than doubles Illinois in gun deaths. Chicago does have tougher gun laws than Texas, but they don't have the most gun laws on the books. That's a myth. Not to mention that they border Indiana, which has very lax gun laws. If all you had to do was just cross the border to buy a gun, then how difficult is it to obtain one?
More evidence that more gun laws are not what is needed in the US
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And yet Texas more than doubles Illinois in gun deaths. Chicago does have tougher gun laws than Texas, but they don't have the most gun laws on the books. That's a myth. Not to mention that they border Indiana, which has very lax gun laws. If all you had to do was just cross the border to buy a gun, then how difficult is it to obtain one?
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The Left’s Phony War on Guns | National Review
Chicago has Wild West levels of homicide.
(Worse, in fact; the criminality and violence of the ungoverned West has been greatly exaggerated, and some of those old cow towns had lower per capita crime rates back when they had no formal government than they do today.)
Do you know what kind of crime illegal possession of a firearm is in the state of Illinois?
It is a misdemeanor.
A 2014 study conducted by the Chicago Sun-Times found that in most cases, Cook County judges handed down the minimum sentence for gun possession, and in most cases, the criminals ended up serving far less than that, doing only a few months.
Those charged with simple possession had an average of four prior arrests; those charged with the more serious crime of being a felon in possession of a firearm had an average of ten previous arrests.
Ten arrests, and the eleventh is for a gun-related crime.
One wonders how many undetected crimes are covered by such criminal careers.
Many in Illinois have argued that, given the state of crime there, stiffer sentences are warranted.
A bill was introduced to that end, and it was opposed by Democrats who argued that stiffer sentences for those actually committing crimes with guns would “unfairly target African-Americans,” as the Sun-Times put it.
The NRA, to its discredit, opposed that bill, too, arguing that the penalties for simple possession in absence of other criminal activity were too stiff.
But that’s an argument for liberalizing Illinois gun laws, not for forgoing the punishment of criminals.
The NRA did support harsher punishment for felons in possession of firearms, and for the use of firearms in crimes. Democrats have generally opposed them.
Chicago...
Downtown: Man on bond for gun charge accused of having another firearm during traffic crash
A man who was on bail while awaiting trial for illegal gun possession is charged with unlawful possession of another gun after paramedics allegedly found him sitting on a firearm, passed out behind the wheel of his car downtown.
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Prosecutors charged Alcala with aggravated unlawful use of a weapon and possession of a controlled substance.
In September, Alcala posted a $1,000 deposit bond to get out of jail after prosecutors charged him with another unlawful use of a weapon case, prosecutors said.
He was convicted of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon in 2017, according to the state.
Judge Charles Beach ordered Alcala held without bail for violating the terms of his September bail bond. Beach set bail in the new charge at $20,000 and ordered Alcala to go on electronic monitoring if he can post the mandatory 10% deposit bond.
Releasing 8,000 criminals in California....
Newsom Approves Plan to Release 8,000 Prisoners By August
If you live in California and feel safe inside your home during the coronavirus, that may soon change. Democratic Gov. Gavin Newsom plans on releasing 8,000 inmates, some currently serving time for serious felonies, from the California prison system by August. Democrats like Newsom have always wanted to release prisoners, but the Wuhan coronavirus has now given them an ostensible reason to do so.
Newsom believes prisoners, who broke criminal laws, will observe CDC guidelines and practice social distancing out of concern for their fellow man. In all fairness, the freed prisoners will likely wear face masks inside banks and liquor stores.
Three separate efforts aimed at releasing 8,000 prisoners by the end of August were recently approved by the governor.
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Democrats attacks on the police....Heather macdonald...
https://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2020/07/the-minneapolis-effect.php
Most violent cities, from the Washington Post attempt to prove Trump wrong.....they proved him right......
Washington Post ‘Analysis’ Tries To Debunk Trump Claim On Violent Democrat Cities. It Proves Him Right. | The Daily Wire
The Post then included a graphic (featured below) in their report that showed that overall 17 out of the top 20 cities with the most violent crime have Democrat mayors, while two have independent mayors, and one has a Republican mayor.
The graphic also showed that per capita, Democrats controlled 19 out of the top 20 most violent cities with independents controlling one and Republicans controlling none.
New York...
NYC disbanded its anti-crime unit. Guess what happened next
Almost a week ago, following calls from the streets for “police reform” in New York City, Mayor Bill de Blasio and his Police Chief responded by disbanding the city’s more than 600-person plainclothes anti-crime unit. (Because your go-to move when facing a rolling series of riots and arson attacks is to dump your anti-crime unit.) That seemed to please at least some of the anti-cop activists and agitators while scaring the bejesus out of homeowners and small businesses.
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Who could possibly have predicted this? The shootings, all of which took place in less than a week, included at least four murders in Brooklyn, the Bronx and East New York. That last one probably shouldn’t be too much of a surprise, since East New York resembles a war zone on the best of days. But the others have been taking place in neighborhoods where crime levels have been far more under control for years.
Chicago......
Two men — including convicted murderer — charged in Lincoln Park looting
Stevenson and Harris are charged with felony burglary.
Stevenson has seven prior felony convictions and seven prior misdemeanor convictions, according to statements made in bond court. Judge Arthur Willis released him on a recognizance bond after noting that no one specifically identified Stevenson as someone who ran from the store with merchandise.
Harris, who received a 25-year sentence for first-degree murder in 1999, told police that he knew the boxes of shoes were stolen, prosecutors said. His public defender highlighted the fact that Harris only said he knew the shoes were stolen but did not admit to taking them or breaking into the store.
He has been sent to prison for three felony drug convictions since being paroled in the murder case — once for four years in 2014 and two concurrent three-year sentences in 2016, prosecutors said.
Harris also has a pending felony criminal damage to government property case.
Willis set Harris’ bail at $5,000 for the burglary charge. He also ordered Harris held without bail for violating the terms of his bond in the pending criminal damage case.
Baltimore..
Analysis of murder data in Baltimore: 82% of Victims have criminal record, 81% of suspects have criminal record, average victim had 10.8 arrests
Clearly neither the victims nor perpetrators of murders are “normal” people — both groups are overwhelmingly criminals. Sixty-five percent of murders occurred for unknown reasons, and there were only 86 suspects for these 348 murders. Fifty-nine percent of murders occurred on the street.
Homicides in Baltimore largely involve criminals killing criminals. 82% of Victims have criminal record. The average victim had 10.8 arrests, with 4.1 of those being drug offenses. Sixty-seven percent had an arrest record for drugs. Forty-four percent had an arrest record for gun crimes. Twenty-nine percent of victims were clearly known by the police to be members of “drug crews or gang” members. Obviously, some of those 18% who didn’t have an arrest record were probably also engaging in or suspected of criminal activity.
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Man fatally shot one victim, wounded another while free on recognizance bond and electronic monitoring, prosecutors say
It’s been 18 months since Cook County Sheriff Tom Dart warned that he was “alarmed” by the number of accused gun offenders who were being released on their own recognizance, sometimes with electronic monitoring.
“This needs to get fixed quick,” Dart told the Sun-Times in Feb. 2018.
It hasn’t been fixed.
Yesterday, 18-year-old Antwane Lashley was in bond court, accused of shooting a man to death on Aug. 23. Prosecutors say he also shot and seriously wounded a woman at the same time. Lashley has been free on his own recognizance with electronic monitoring since prosecutors charged him with possessing a handgun illegally this spring.
Cook County Board President Toni Preckwinkle wasted no time criticizing Dart’s concerns last year.
“I believe it is our responsibility to keep these matters in context and not contribute to sensationalizing them,” Preckwinkle told Dart in a letter days later.
As recently as Friday, Preckwinkle called concerns about people committing violent crimes while free on affordable bail, a “fear tactic.” She has also defended easy bail conditions for gun possession. Some people who live in less-safe neighborhoods feel the need to carry guns for their own protection, she says.
A gun, freedom, then a murder
Around 7:30 p.m. on May 20th, cops in Humboldt Park saw Antwane Lashley walking quickly on the 3800 block of West Chicago. He saw police nearby and began running, holding his right pocket as he fled, a police spokesperson said last night.
Lashley took a handgun out of his pocket, threw it, and kept running, the spokesperson said. Officers caught him nearby while other cops retrieved the gun he allegedly threw.
Prosecutors charged Lashley with felony aggravated unlawful use of a weapon. He appeared in court the next afternoon and was set free on his own recognizance with an order to go onto electronic monitoring, according to court records.
Then, last Friday, Neal Sumrell and a woman were sitting in a car on the 4200 block of West Iowa in Humboldt Park. Around 8:15 p.m., someone walked up to their vehicle and opened fire. Sumrell, 34, was shot seven times in the upper body. He died. The woman tried to run away, police said. She was shot three times throughout her body, but managed to survive.
Lashley—on juvenile probation for aggravated battery causing great bodily harm—was arrested at his home Thursday evening, just one block from the murder scene. Police say he’s the gunman who killed Sumrell and injured the 28-year-old woman who tried to run away.
Prosecutors yesterday charged Lashley with first-degree murder, attempted first-degree murder, and aggravated battery by discharging a firearm. Judge Mary Marubio ordered him held without bail.
“Victims deserve better,” said Anthony Guglielmi, the police department’s chief communications officer early Sunday. “We are going to continue to be the voice for those who have been silenced by gun violence.”
Not the first
Lashley is hardly the first person to be accused of killing or trying to kill someone while free on the county's affordable bail program. Among similar cases reported by CWBChicago:
In May 2018, Daryl Williams was charged with fatally shooting a man in the back of the head. He was free on a recognizance bond at the time while awaiting trial for allegedly possessing a stolen firearm the previous November.
In June of last year, Carnell Morris was charged with being an armed habitual criminal after police said they found a gun in his car. He posted a $1,000 bond. Six months later, while awaiting trial for the gun case, Morris was charged with attempted murder after he allegedly shot a 51-year-old man.
Just three months ago, repeat gun offender Antawan Smith was charged with murdering a 15-year-old. He was free on a $6,000 deposit bond while awaiting trial for allegedly being an armed habitual criminal.
In Delaware, 71% of gun charges are dropped
From 2012 to 2014, more than 11,700 felony weapon charges were filed in Delaware, and in most cases, the weapon was a gun. Yet, 71 percent of those charges disappeared before trials began.
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Chicago.....
Man on house arrest for gun offense shoots, kills teen from outside his home: prosecutors
A man on house arrest for carrying a gun without a license allegedly shot and killed a 15-year-old boy who lived across the street from his Lawndale home, Cook County prosecutors say.
Dequawn Little, 21, was allegedly close enough to his electronic monitoring box, located in the dining room of the house, that he didn’t trigger a violation, according to a bond proffer prepared by the Cook County state’s attorney’s office.
Little faces a count of first-degree murder in an April 8 shooting of Demetrius Hardy, prosecutors said.
At the time of the shooting, Little was on electronic home monitoring for a December 2019 charge of carrying a loaded gun without a Firearm Owners Identification card, court records show. He has pleaded not guilty in that case
Top cop laments violence as 66 shot, 5 fatally, over long Fourth of July weekend
Between last Wednesday and Friday, 42 people were charged with felony gun-related offenses, he said, but only 15 remain in custody.
That lack of accountability for gun offenders has damaged the Police Department’s relationship with the communities most beset by violence, Johnson said, making victims of crimes less likely to cooperate with officers.
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“It’s not about mass incarceration. It’s not about having quotas. But when somebody has a demonstrated track record of being a violent gun offender, that should say something to the judges who are making decisions about bail. They shouldn’t be out on the street,” Lightfoot said. “We can’t keep our communities safe if people just keep cycling through the system because what that says to them is, I can do whatever I want, I can carry whatever I want, I can shoot up a crowd and I’m going to be back on the street. How does that make sense? It doesn’t.”
Criminal Justice Reform Comes Home to Roost
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======The democrat prosecutor let this monster loose.......
But Democrat State’s Attorney Julia Reitz cut a deal to let Robbie Patton, a sociopathic predator who will never contribute anything but sewage and sadness to our society, avoid serving hard time for attempted murder.
It’s true. Bad guys in prison don’t victimize the innocent. Florida had proven success with 10-20-Life sentencing enhancements for the use of a firearmwhile committing a violent crime. A court struck down the law in 2016. Under the law, Florida’s firearmviolent crime rate plummeted to the lowest levels in the Sunshine State’s recorded history.
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John Boch: Lock Them Up! - The Truth About Guns
When you lock up violent criminals, you prevent them from victimizing other innocents. Crime in America dipped almost 50%after America abandoned “soft on crime” attitudes of the 1970s. Of course, many soft-on-crime politicians like Reitz have once more taken a love to “diversion” programs. And that’s how we get Robbie Patton (above), a local crime celebrity of sorts.
In 2015, he had an altercation at a Champaign Steak ‘n Shake restaurant commonly frequented by my friends and me. While none of us were enjoying a milkshake or steakburger at 5:30pm, Robbie was.
Robbie found himself in an altercation inside the restaurant. He felt one of his friends had been “disrespected”, so little Robbie went outside. He waited for the other group to emerge, pulled out of gun and tried to kill those other people.
He missed, and fled the scene with an Illinois State Trooper in hot pursuit. After a short, high-speed chase in a stolen car, Robbie crashed and escaped on foot.
Cops caught up with him. Local prosecutor Julia Reitz then went soft on little Robbie. She let him go to “boot camp”, even though that sentencing option is not supposed to be available for violent offenders. And squeezing off a bunch of shots at other people, trying to kill them, pretty much fits the bill as a violent crime.
After serving eight months on an eight-year sentence, Robbie returned to the streets of Champaign-Urbana. In less than two days, cops arrested him again for drugs and who knows what else. Not even three weeks after that, he’s illegally got agun. When someone “disrespects” another one of Robbie’s friends, guess what he does? He pulls out the gun and fires shots at those he believes responsible.
He misses his intended targets, but in the busy University of Illinois campustown district, his errant, not-so-late-night rounds found four innocent people within a block or two. George Korchev, the recent nursing school graduate due to start his career as a registered nurse at a hospital in Libertyville, IL, the following Monday morning, was struck and killed a blockaway from one of Robbie’s bullets.
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Europe has those Australia has those and people still committed murder.
Just say our loud that you are for killing law abiding people
No one is claiming a criminal won't kill just because they don't have a gun. But it's a simple fact of logic that it'll be much harder to do so, in terms of frequency, ease and on a mass scale. Just open your eyes and look at the records of countries that don't have a gun issue.
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Darrell Brooks killed six with an suvNo one is claiming a criminal won't kill just because they don't have a gun. But it's a simple fact of logic that it'll be much harder to do so, in terms of frequency, ease and on a mass scale. Just open your eyes and look at the records of countries that don't have a gun issue.
That was an interesting read! If true, then there needs to be a serious investigation into how bail is handled in all these states. The question now is, how are the incidences of gun violence in places like Illinois and new york different from a place like Florida and Texas, which are supposedly "tough on crime" and don't have bail "reform." Florida is rated 19th in the country in gun violence, Texas is ranked 27th, IL is ranked 21 and New York is ranked 48. Looks to me like Florida and Texas don't have much on IL and NY is better than all 3 by far. You would think 2 red states with republican mayors, reps and governors and high gun ownership by supposedly law abiding citizens would have the least amount of crime or gun violence according to your own logic. What happened there?
And how many ppl are intentionally using cars to murder multiple people, even though this is probably much easier than doing it with a gun?
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Columbia has a lot of guns too, how is their gun crime rate on say murder?
Switzerland has a stunningly high rate of gun ownership — here's why it doesn't have mass shootings
Here's what the US can learn from Switzerland, which has nearly eliminated mass shootings while maintaining a high rate of gun ownership.www.yahoo.com
Switzerland has a stunningly high rate of gun ownership — here's why it doesn't have mass shootings
Here's what the US can learn from Switzerland, which has nearly eliminated mass shootings while maintaining a high rate of gun ownership.www.businessinsider.com
Switzerland hasn't had a mass shooting since 2001, when a man stormed the local parliament in Zug, killing 14 people and then himself.
The country has about 2 million privately owned guns in a nation of 8.3 million people. In 2016, the country had 47 attempted homicides with firearms. The country's overall murder rate is near zero.
The National Rifle Association often points to Switzerland to argue that more rules on gun ownership aren't necessary. In 2016, the NRA said on its blog that the European country had one of the lowest murder rates in the world while still having millions of privately owned guns and a few hunting weapons that don't even require a permit.
But the Swiss have some specific rules and regulations for gun use.
Insider took a look at the country's past with guns to see why it has lower rates of gun violence than the US, where after a mass shooting that killed 5 and injured 25 at an LGBTQ+ nightclub in Colorado, gun-death rates are now at their highest in more than 20 years, and the leading cause of death for children and adolescents.
Zurich's Knabenschiessen is a traditional annual festival that dates back to the 1600s.
Though the word roughly translates to "boys shooting" and the competition used to be only boys, teenage girls have been allowed in since 1991.
Kids in the country flock to the competition every September to compete in target shooting using Swiss army-service rifles. They're proud to show off how well they can shoot.
The competition values accuracy above all else, and officials crown a Schutzenkonig — a king or queen of marksmen — based on results.
The Swiss stance is one of "armed neutrality."
Switzerland hasn't taken part in any international armed conflict since 1815, but some Swiss soldiers help with peacekeeping missions around the world.
Many Swiss see gun ownership as part of a patriotic duty to protect their homeland.
Unlike the US, Switzerland has mandatory military service for men.
The government gives all men between the ages of 18 and 34 deemed "fit for service" a pistol or a rifle and training on how to use them.
After they've finished their service, the men can typically buy and keep their service weapons, but they have to get a permit for them.
In recent years, the Swiss government has voted to reduce the size of the country's armed forces.
Switzerland's borders are basically designed to blow up on command, with at least 3,000 demolition points on bridges, roads, rails, and tunnels around the landlocked European country.
John McPhee put it this way in his book "La Place de la Concorde Suisse":
"Near the German border of Switzerland, every railroad and highway tunnel has been prepared to pinch shut explosively. Nearby mountains have been made so porous that whole divisions can fit inside them."
In 2000, more than 25% of Swiss gun owners said they kept their weapon for military or police duty, while less than 5% of Americans said the same.
The Swiss government has estimated that about half of the privately owned guns in the country are former service rifles. But there are signs the Swiss gun-to-human ratio is dwindling.
In 2007, the Small Arms Survey found that Switzerland had the third-highest ratio of civilian firearms per 100 residents (46), outdone by only the US (89) and Yemen (55).
But it seems that figure has dropped over the past decade. The University of Sydney now estimates that there's about one civilian gun for every three Swiss people.
All fascinating stuff.
But the Swiss has not been overrun with leftists like the US has. As a result, it does not have a government at war with half or more of it's citizens. The Swiss seem to value the Patriarchal family, they are proud of their culture and history and not ashamed of it as they try to eradicate it at all costs. Drugs are not flowing across an uncontrolled border and destroying society, etc.
They also have some of the most stringent immigration laws in the world.
Switzerland is like a right wing utopia.
So why does the Left seem to leave them the hell alone? You guessed it, all the corrupt Leftists put their money there.
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Sure, how many mass murders happened in New Zealand after they banned assault weapons?
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Again....Texas has a huge border with a narco state....and Florida is also an entry point for illegal drugs
New York?
And it is the blue cities in those states that drive the crime rates.......
In February 2022, CBS News published a report about cities with the highest homicide rate, "Murder map: Deadliest U.S. cities." Of the top 10 deadliest cities in the country, all of them are cities with Democratic mayors. Moreover, of the 65 cities on this list with the highest murder rates, the overwhelming majority had Democratic mayors. And, to quote Clinton, "that's just a fact."
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On Nov. 4, the Heritage Foundation released a study showing that "high-crime counties are governed largely by Democrats." It revealed that of the 30 cities with the highest murder rates in the country, 27 have Democratic mayors. Furthermore, of those 27 cities, nearly half (14) have radical left-wing prosecutors funded or inspired by affluent billionaire and leftist political activist George Soros and the Open Society Foundation.
"The high murder rate is almost exclusively cabined in cities run by Democrats and with Democrat district attorneys, many of whom are Soros bought-and-paid-for rogue prosecutors or inspired by Soros, groups like the egregiously misnamed Fair and Just Prosecution and other battering rams of the movement," the authors of the study stated.
Don't believe Democrats' lies — blue cities, not red states, have the violent crime problem
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From poster, Toobfreak.
I chose 58 cities as that was the largest number I could fit on a page. I then went through each city one by one to look up the major of every city. Aside from the fact that you can forget finding any pattern of cities in "red" states being the most with the highest crime as the idiot Marc tries to claim, but I went down the list marking all the mayors of the highest crimes cities in America in BRIGHT RED who were DEMOCRATS.
Look at what I found:
Every city above in red is RUN BY A DEMOCRAT!
Murder map: Deadliest U.S. cities
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The No. 1 state on Third Way’s list is Mississippi. Sure enough, the statewide vote in the 2020 election was for Trump. But within the state, Hinds County residents voted for Joe Biden, 3 to 1. Mississippi’s biggest city, Jackson, is in Hinds County. You know where this is going.
Reporting on Jackson last year, CNN declared it “one of the deadliest U.S. cities.”
The mayor of Jackson is Chokwe Antar Lumumba, a Democrat. The district attorney is Jody Owens, a Democrat.
No. 2 on the list is Louisiana. Trump won that state, too. But on the more local level, he lost Orleans, the parish that contains New Orleans, the state’s most populous city. Residents there went for Biden almost 8 to 1.
“New Orleans had the highest homicide rate of any major city so far this year, with about 41 homicides per 100,000 residents.”— The Wall Street Journal, Sep. 16, 2022
The mayor of New Orleans is LaToya Cantrell, a Democrat. The district attorney is Jason Williams, also a Democrat.
No. 3 on the list is Kentucky, another red state that voted to elect Trump. But Kentucky’s biggest city Louisville is in Jefferson County and 60 percent of those voters supported Biden.
This is from Kentucky-based think tank Pegasus Institute in August: “In the last decade, the city of Louisville has seen unprecedented increases in shootings and homicides. 2020 became Louisville’s deadliest year on record, and 2021 have proven to continue that trend.” The organization reported last year that Louisville’s homicide rate was competing with the likes of Chicago and Philadelphia.
The mayor of Louisville is Greg Fischer, a Democrat. The district attorney is Thomas B. Wine. He is also a Democrat.
Next is Alabama at No. 4, another 2020 red state. But Biden won the most votes in the most populous county, also called Jefferson. He won 56 percent to Trump’s 43. Within Jefferson is the city of Birmingham, which has the third-highest murder ratein all of the U.S.
The mayor of Birmingham is Randall Woodfin. He’s a Democrat, just like the district attorney, Danny Carr.
In slot No. 5 is Missouri. Again, a Trump state. And again, with the county containing its biggest city, St. Louis, going for Biden, 61 percent to Trump’s 37. St. Louis has the fourth-highest murder rate in the country.
Mayor: Tishaura Jones, Democrat.
County prosecuting attorney: Wesley Bell, same.
No. 6 is South Carolina. Trump won that state, but Charleston County, with the city of North Charleston, went for Biden with 56 percent of the vote. North Charleston has the highest murder rate in the state.
Finally, here we have a city with a mayor, Keith Summey, from the Republican Party. The county solicitor — Charleston does not have a district attorney — is Scarlett Wilson, also a Republican.
Not that we’re keeping score, but that brings the number on this list of Republicans who might feasibly be held accountable for raging crime in their cities to a grand total of two. For Democrats, it’s so far 10.
The next two states on Third Way’s report, New Mexico and Georgia, went blue in 2020, so we’ll skip those.
No. 9 is Arkansas, which was red. But again, Pulaski County, with the state’s biggest city of Little Rock, went blue with 60 percent of voters choosing Biden. That city reportedly has one of the highest violent crime rates in the state. The mayor of Little Rock is Frank Scott, a Democrat. The county prosecutor, Larry Jegley, is a Democrat as well.
Lastly, at No. 10, is Tennessee. Another red state with a major blue county that went for Biden. That county here would be Shelby, with 64 percent of the vote going to the president. In Shelby is the city of Memphis, which, according to The New York Times, “is often ranked among the nation’s most violent cities.”
The mayor of Memphis is Jim Strickland, a Democrat. Steve Mulroy, a Democrat, is the recently-elected district attorney.
To recap, of the eight red states listed in Third Way’s report as being among the top 10 with the highest murder rate, the cities where all that murder is happening are run almost exclusively by Democrats. All but one had a Democrat mayor. And all but one had a Democrat responsible for pursuing criminal prosecutions.
The Left's Funny New Lie: It's The 'Red States' With More Crime!
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They didn't have mass shootings before that last one anyway...so their banning rifles was just stupid.
You moron.....the last mass public shooting in New Zealand before 2019 was in 1997....and the gun used was a sawn off shotgun you dope....
They banned guns for no reason.
List of massacres in New Zealand - Wikipedia
Again....Texas has a huge border with a narco state....and Florida is also an entry point for illegal drugs
New York?
And it is the blue cities in those states that drive the crime rates.......
In February 2022, CBS News published a report about cities with the highest homicide rate, "Murder map: Deadliest U.S. cities." Of the top 10 deadliest cities in the country, all of them are cities with Democratic mayors. Moreover, of the 65 cities on this list with the highest murder rates, the overwhelming majority had Democratic mayors. And, to quote Clinton, "that's just a fact."
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On Nov. 4, the Heritage Foundation released a study showing that "high-crime counties are governed largely by Democrats." It revealed that of the 30 cities with the highest murder rates in the country, 27 have Democratic mayors. Furthermore, of those 27 cities, nearly half (14) have radical left-wing prosecutors funded or inspired by affluent billionaire and leftist political activist George Soros and the Open Society Foundation.
"The high murder rate is almost exclusively cabined in cities run by Democrats and with Democrat district attorneys, many of whom are Soros bought-and-paid-for rogue prosecutors or inspired by Soros, groups like the egregiously misnamed Fair and Just Prosecution and other battering rams of the movement," the authors of the study stated.
Don't believe Democrats' lies — blue cities, not red states, have the violent crime problem
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From poster, Toobfreak.
I chose 58 cities as that was the largest number I could fit on a page. I then went through each city one by one to look up the major of every city. Aside from the fact that you can forget finding any pattern of cities in "red" states being the most with the highest crime as the idiot Marc tries to claim, but I went down the list marking all the mayors of the highest crimes cities in America in BRIGHT RED who were DEMOCRATS.
Look at what I found:
Every city above in red is RUN BY A DEMOCRAT!
Murder map: Deadliest U.S. cities
Also.....
The No. 1 state on Third Way’s list is Mississippi. Sure enough, the statewide vote in the 2020 election was for Trump. But within the state, Hinds County residents voted for Joe Biden, 3 to 1. Mississippi’s biggest city, Jackson, is in Hinds County. You know where this is going.
Reporting on Jackson last year, CNN declared it “one of the deadliest U.S. cities.”
The mayor of Jackson is Chokwe Antar Lumumba, a Democrat. The district attorney is Jody Owens, a Democrat.
No. 2 on the list is Louisiana. Trump won that state, too. But on the more local level, he lost Orleans, the parish that contains New Orleans, the state’s most populous city. Residents there went for Biden almost 8 to 1.
“New Orleans had the highest homicide rate of any major city so far this year, with about 41 homicides per 100,000 residents.”— The Wall Street Journal, Sep. 16, 2022
The mayor of New Orleans is LaToya Cantrell, a Democrat. The district attorney is Jason Williams, also a Democrat.
No. 3 on the list is Kentucky, another red state that voted to elect Trump. But Kentucky’s biggest city Louisville is in Jefferson County and 60 percent of those voters supported Biden.
This is from Kentucky-based think tank Pegasus Institute in August: “In the last decade, the city of Louisville has seen unprecedented increases in shootings and homicides. 2020 became Louisville’s deadliest year on record, and 2021 have proven to continue that trend.” The organization reported last year that Louisville’s homicide rate was competing with the likes of Chicago and Philadelphia.
The mayor of Louisville is Greg Fischer, a Democrat. The district attorney is Thomas B. Wine. He is also a Democrat.
Next is Alabama at No. 4, another 2020 red state. But Biden won the most votes in the most populous county, also called Jefferson. He won 56 percent to Trump’s 43. Within Jefferson is the city of Birmingham, which has the third-highest murder ratein all of the U.S.
The mayor of Birmingham is Randall Woodfin. He’s a Democrat, just like the district attorney, Danny Carr.
In slot No. 5 is Missouri. Again, a Trump state. And again, with the county containing its biggest city, St. Louis, going for Biden, 61 percent to Trump’s 37. St. Louis has the fourth-highest murder rate in the country.
Mayor: Tishaura Jones, Democrat.
County prosecuting attorney: Wesley Bell, same.
No. 6 is South Carolina. Trump won that state, but Charleston County, with the city of North Charleston, went for Biden with 56 percent of the vote. North Charleston has the highest murder rate in the state.
Finally, here we have a city with a mayor, Keith Summey, from the Republican Party. The county solicitor — Charleston does not have a district attorney — is Scarlett Wilson, also a Republican.
Not that we’re keeping score, but that brings the number on this list of Republicans who might feasibly be held accountable for raging crime in their cities to a grand total of two. For Democrats, it’s so far 10.
The next two states on Third Way’s report, New Mexico and Georgia, went blue in 2020, so we’ll skip those.
No. 9 is Arkansas, which was red. But again, Pulaski County, with the state’s biggest city of Little Rock, went blue with 60 percent of voters choosing Biden. That city reportedly has one of the highest violent crime rates in the state. The mayor of Little Rock is Frank Scott, a Democrat. The county prosecutor, Larry Jegley, is a Democrat as well.
Lastly, at No. 10, is Tennessee. Another red state with a major blue county that went for Biden. That county here would be Shelby, with 64 percent of the vote going to the president. In Shelby is the city of Memphis, which, according to The New York Times, “is often ranked among the nation’s most violent cities.”
The mayor of Memphis is Jim Strickland, a Democrat. Steve Mulroy, a Democrat, is the recently-elected district attorney.
To recap, of the eight red states listed in Third Way’s report as being among the top 10 with the highest murder rate, the cities where all that murder is happening are run almost exclusively by Democrats. All but one had a Democrat mayor. And all but one had a Democrat responsible for pursuing criminal prosecutions.
The Left's Funny New Lie: It's The 'Red States' With More Crime!
You're hilarious. Nearly all the states those cities reside in, have some of the loosest gun laws in the country with a few exceptions. Permitless open carry, permitless purchase from private sellers, no background checks, no waiting periods,, no ban on assault weapons, no limit on magazine size, etc, etc. are very common gun "control" laws you'll see in a great deal of them. You've basically made my entire argument for me, thank you!! Citizens in those states can buy all the guns they want, and what's the end result of these loose gun laws? Has crime been deterred? Has gun violence been deterred? Nope. If anything the opposite has happened. You're entire hypothesis is that if we have more guns we'll be safer, correct? So why are all the states you've listed experiencing so much gun crime? Why is texas and florida, two of the reddest states in the country, having the same issue and getting worse by year? What is the most basic common denominator? Lack of gun common sense restriction, dumb dumb.
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Moron……….
the one actually shooting people aren’t able to legally buy, own or carry any gun..……….the problem…again….you idiot….is the democrat party releasing those same violent criminals over and over again…….after repeated felony convictions………
You refuse to understand the problem….you simply hate that normal people can own and carry guns even though they aren’t the ones using them for crime…..
another example….from today….
New York City is amongst some of the top crime-ridden places in the U.S., thanks to soft-on-crime policies and Democrat-run leaders.
A new law is forcing prosecutors to release suspects, putting them back on the street sans consequences, only making the city’s crime problem heighten.
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In 2019, the year new “discovery” rules were adopted by state lawmakers, 44 percent of cases were dismissed, rising to 69 percent by mid-October 2021, according to the Manhattan Institute.
For misdemeanor cases, the rate increased from 49 percent to 82 percent during the same period.
This as New York City crime rates shot up to record levels in just the last two years.
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In 2019, the year new “discovery” rules were adopted by state lawmakers, 44 percent of cases were dismissed, rising to 69 percent by mid-October 2021, according to the Manhattan Institute.
For misdemeanor cases, the rate increased from 49 percent to 82 percent during the same period.
This as New York City crime rates shot up to record levels in just the last two years.
“In New York City, adult felony arrests fell by 14 percent between 2019 and 2021, while NYC shootings rose by 102 percent and murders rose by over 51 percent,” the study noted.
The study blamed the impending “clerical burden” prosecutors face who have to “assemble and redact limitless…documents and videos” for defense lawyers as part of the process known as “discovery.”
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I gave you a list of the cities with the highest murder rates and all except a few were controlled by democrats and their policies…….you name two states that are known cartel access coridors where the democrat party, in control of our border, refuses to stop illegal entry into the country and where they are shipping illegal aliens……you are an idiot….where it is known that the cartels are running wild because of the democrats not securing the border……you dope.
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Hey….dipshit…….address my facts…..
Europe took guns away from their people, then in 6 years the governments of Europe murdered 15 million innocent men, women and children…..
6 years….15 million murdered.
In 246 years of gun murder in the U.S.?
2,460,000. And the victims are majority criminals, not innocent people.
You keep ignoring that fact
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The 1.1 million Americans who use their guns to stop rapes, robberies, murders, beatings, stabbings, kidnappings, and mass public shootings are safer for having those guns…..and so far, our government hasn’t murdered 15 million of us in forests and death camps because of those guns…..you dope.
1.1 million times a year……..lives saved……vs around 10,000 majority criminals murdered with guns ……
Can you tell which number is bigger?
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Exactly
Right wingers confuse what they want with regulated training for firearm use and possession
It’s about regulating any dangerous implement from automobiles, to ladders to hand tools.
A firearm is a dangerous hand tool with one basic expressed use.....to kill (and the threat of killing.) All of its other uses are extraneous. It’s a tool that requires strict regulation.
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Hey....dipshit......
Houston, Texas, vs. Chicago, Illinois...
Texas.....gun stores on every corner, open and concealed carry....and a border with the Narco state of Mexico....
2021 murder number....
473 in a population of 2.288 million
Chicago......the most extreme gun control, no gun stores or gun ranges allowed in city limits, does not have a border with the narco state of Mexico...
2021 murder number.....
797 in a population of 2.697 million....
You have no argument, you have no point, you doofus....
Houston finishes 2021 with the most homicides the city has seen in decades
Homicides were up 71% in 2021 compared to 2019.
www.khou.com
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population of houston
population of chicago
2021 Ends as Chicago's Deadliest Year in a Quarter Century
The year of 2021 ended as one of the most violent on record in Chicago, as a rise in the number of shootings left more people dead than in any single year in a quarter century, according to statistics released by the police department on Saturday.
www.nbcchicago.com
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You don't know what you are talking about....you have to explain this....
Over 27 years, from 1993 to the year 2015, we went from 200 million guns in private hands in the 1990s and 4.7 million people carrying guns for self defense in 1997...to close to 400-600 million guns in private hands and over 19.4 million people carrying guns for self defense in 2019 (in 2020 that number is 21.52 million)...guess what happened...
New Concealed Carry Report For 2020: 19.48 Million Permit Holders, 820,000 More Than Last Year despite many states shutting down issuing permits because of the Coronavirus - Crime Prevention Research Center
-- gun murder down 49%
--gun crime down 75%
--violent crime down 72%
Gun Homicide Rate Down 49% Since 1993 Peak; Public Unaware
Compared with 1993, the peak of U.S. gun homicides, the firearm homicide rate was 49% lower in 2010, and there were fewer deaths, even though the nation’s population grew. The victimization rate for other violent crimes with a firearm—assaults, robberies and sex crimes—was 75% lower in 2011 than in 1993. Violent non-fatal crime victimization overall (with or without a firearm) also is down markedly (72%) over two decades.
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The gun murder and gun suicide rates in the U.S. both remain below their peak levels. There were 6.2 gun murders per 100,000 people in 2020, below the rate of 7.2 recorded in 1974.
What the data says about gun deaths in the U.S.
Paper...why crime declined in the 90s
https://pricetheory.uchicago.edu/levitt/Papers/LevittUnderstandingWhyCrime2004.pdf
This means that access to guns does not create gun crime........
Why do our democrat party controlled cities have gun crime problems?
What changed in 2015?
The democrat party did 3 things...
1) they began a war on the police that forced officers to stop pro active police work, allowing criminals to run wild.
2) they began to release the most violent and dangerous gun offenders over and over again, not matter how many times they had been arrested for gun crimes
3) they used their brown shirts, blm/antifa to burn, loot and murder for 7 months in primarily black neighborhoods while the democrat party mayors ordered the police to stand down and not stop them......in order to hurt Trump during the election.
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