Moon Launch, NASA Space Program is because of Trump. Well done, Mr. President!

[jknowgood]

And then maybe move on the the haughty goals in the Obama directive.

Muslim math?

 

[RedrickTheCoat]

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What? You're really asking that? You got left out the memo? Never ask for a source. Just deny, say otherwise and lie. If you really want to be in the MAGA cult, that's what you need to do. Sources are fake news.

As for your sources, it's well established that Trump is trying to defund NASA:

Deja vu: Trump proposes cutting NASA science funding by 47% again

The proposed budget would cut NASA's overall funding by 23% and nearly halve its science portfolio.

www.space.com

I really don't know why you're surprised. Your party doesn't even believe in science....

The next argument you might go to, to redemn yourself in the eye's of MAGA is something like, 'They got rid of the waste!'.

 

[struth]

It’s nice and all but we are nowhere near having a lander so this doesn’t really add much of anything to momentum.

Trump just took us to in space where no man or woman, has ever been

Meanwhile, Obama destroyed the space program, and xiden abandoned Americans in space

Dems hate Americans, Dems hate progress

 

[BackAgain]

What? You're really asking that? You got left out the memo? Never ask for a source. Just deny, say otherwise and lie. If you really want to be in the MAGA cult, that's what you need to do. Sources are fake news.

As for your sources, it's well established that Trump is trying to defund NASA:

Deja vu: Trump proposes cutting NASA science funding by 47% again

The proposed budget would cut NASA's overall funding by 23% and nearly halve its science portfolio.

www.space.com

I really don't know why you're surprised. Your party doesn't even believe in science....

The next argument you might go to, to redemn yourself in the eye's of MAGA is something like, 'They got rid of the waste!'.

Your premises are false.

 

[Marener]

Run your ignorance down the road, Moron-er. Nothing happens in the space program that involves risks to humans happens without multiple tests. These landers will carry HUMANS. Now admit that you had your partisan-inspired BS shoved up your nose as you said, "It’s nice and all but we are nowhere near having a lander so this doesn’t really add much of anything to momentum." which I just proved is another BALD-FACED LIE. You're a typical democrat.

The landers in your link won’t carry humans.

Moron.

 

[RedrickTheCoat]

Your premises are false.

See mudwhistle? You should have just said something like this!

BackAgain, what do you think about the following:

https://www.axios.com/local/huntsville/2026/04/08/nasa-budget-cuts-congress-trump-huntsville

Is this fake news?

 

[BackAgain]

See mudwhistle? You should have just said something like this!

BackAgain, what do you think about the following:

https://www.axios.com/local/huntsville/2026/04/08/nasa-budget-cuts-congress-trump-huntsville

Is this fake news?

I was actually addressing some of what you had just posted. The nonsense like MAGA being a “cult.” Pure baseless rhetoric.

Also, you’re false claim that MAGA doesn’t believe in science.

Also, it isn’t clear that President Trump is gutting NASA funding. I’d say that he is merely recognizing that, given the “partnership” between commercial space flight entities (like Elon’s company, etc.) and the government’s space program, NASA doesn’t require the same funding level.

If that’s true, as I believe it is, then he’s within his rights and arguably his duty to cut duplicative spending.

 

[luiza]

If you've ever wondered why the historic Artemus Moon Launch is downplayed as the third or fourth story in the news cycle, despite being such an enormous event, understand it's because President Trump created it, and the leftwing media will never give him credit for anything.

ANOTHER NASA FAKE
Bit like Trumpfy himself .
Fake from Start to Finish .

But Munchers will not notice
The Fake Artemis Mission. This just keeps getting worse. Parachutes switching colours and losing stripes. Many additions throughout, worth rereading the whole paper.

 

[Concerned American]

The landers in your link won’t carry humans.

Moron.

No kidding -- what was your first clue? the word UNCREWED? SMFH. Typical democrat ignorance--testing is done, but the landers DO EXIST, stupid.

 

[RedrickTheCoat]

I was actually addressing some of what you had just posted. The nonsense like MAGA being a “cult.” Pure baseless rhetoric.

Also, you’re false claim that MAGA doesn’t believe in science.

Trump appointed RFK Jr to the head of the Department of Health and Human Services secretary? RFK, who is an anti-vaxxer.

Trump, right after he won the 2016 election appointed Scott Pruitt, a guy with fossil fuel ties, to the head of the EPA (Environmental Protection Agency)?

"The concept of global warming was created by and for the Chinese in order to make U.S. manufacturing non-competitive.!"
Do you want to guess what genius said that?

Trump has also described anthropogenic climate change as 'one of the greatest con jobs ever'. He also said: "Brutal and Extended Cold Blast could shatter ALL RECORDS – Whatever happened to Global Warming?"

"Healthy young child goes to doctor, gets pumped with massive shot of many vaccines, doesn't feel good and changes — AUTISM. Many such cases!" - Donald Trump

There are a lot more things I can bring up. Just look at some of the comments on this forum regarding science.

Also, it isn’t clear that President Trump is gutting NASA funding. I’d say that he is merely recognizing that, given the “partnership” between commercial space flight entities (like Elon’s company, etc.) and the government’s space program, NASA doesn’t require the same funding level.

It is clear that Turmp is attempting to gut NASA funding. He tried to do it in 2025, and he's trying again in 2026. It's like a 24% cut or something that Trump is going for. That's gutting funding. Sure, a partnership might help NASA, but it helps in a very narrow function, and I don't think it's justfies gutting an already underfunded agency. Also, doesn't it raise some flags that SpaceX, Trump's buddy, will be benefitting while NASA is cut?

NASA has such a great benefit in that it is not profit oriented. And I don't think NASA is something you can argue is overly inefficient. It has high respect and high quality work. It works towards things that can take a decade of work before it has any return.

 

[initforme]

Great Endeavor for america No Doubt. Good Endeavor for Science.

 

[Concerned American]

Trump appointed RFK Jr to the head of the Department of Health and Human Services secretary? RFK, who is an anti-vaxxer.

LOL, SCIENCE? I have vaccinated all my life, but after the democrat/big pharma BS push for the covid jab, I am not nearly as likely to take any new vaxx, but you do you and get as many of the clot shots as you want.

Trump has also described anthropogenic climate change as 'one of the greatest con jobs ever'. He also said: "Brutal and Extended Cold Blast could shatter ALL RECORDS – Whatever happened to Global Warming?"

And he is 100% correct. The democrats' attempt to weaponize the weather on a false pretext isn't that far afield of foisting covid on the world either.

It is clear that Turmp is attempting to gut NASA funding.

Sure, that's why NASA is in support of Trump. Try again. Educate yourself before the next time you post this type of partisan garbage.

NASA has been supportive of the Trump administration's initiatives to fund the U.S. return to the Moon, with significant budget allocations for the Artemis program aimed at landing astronauts by 2028 and establishing a lunar base. NASA Administrator Jared Isaacman has expressed strong support for these funding requests and the focus on human exploration.
spacepolicyonline.com aldailynews.com

 

[initforme]

science is always correct.

 

[RedrickTheCoat]

LOL, SCIENCE? I have vaccinated all my life, but after the democrat/big pharma BS push for the covid jab, I am not nearly as likely to take any new vaxx, but you do you and get as many of the clot shots as you want.

And he is 100% correct. The democrats' attempt to weaponize the weather on a false pretext isn't that far afield of foisting covid on the world either.

Sure, that's why NASA is in support of Trump. Try again. Educate yourself before the next time you post this type of partisan garbage.

NASA has been supportive of the Trump administration's initiatives to fund the U.S. return to the Moon, with significant budget allocations for the Artemis program aimed at landing astronauts by 2028 and establishing a lunar base. NASA Administrator Jared Isaacman has expressed strong support for these funding requests and the focus on human exploration.
spacepolicyonline.com aldailynews.com

See BackAgain

 

[initforme]

A big kudos to our potus for helping to make this happen. Well done!

 

[skews13]

If you've ever wondered why the historic Artemus Moon Launch is downplayed as the third or fourth story in the news cycle, despite being such an enormous event, understand it's because President Trump created it, and the leftwing media will never give him credit for anything.

Under 0bama, NASA had been reduced to mouthing climate change hoax propaganda. Its original mission, Space Exploration had been commandeered (along with its $19 billion budget) in favor of the Marxist agenda. This is consistent with left's distaste for actual science in favor of politically-motivated fake science. In 2010, Neil Armstrong, first man on the moon and the other Apollo 11 astronauts ripped 0bama in a scathing piece for destroying NASA.

Neil Armstrong | Obama's devastating Nasa cuts | Open letter

Open letter: Neil Armstrong, James Lovell and Eugene Cernan urge President Obama not to forfeit America's progress in space exploration

www.theguardian.com

President Trump vowed to change that, and he did in 2017 with the launch of the Artemus program. As with AI, Trump understands the vast potentional advantages of space exploration. The man always has his eyes to the future, looking for the best ways to help America and the world. Another promise made and kept. This is yet another notch in the Trump belt of greatness, building the case of his being the greatest president in American history.

Trump's fingerprints are so profound, I would like to see a movement to rename the Kennedy Space Center after the great man. Even NASA itself is crediting President Trump for this launch:

“Today’s launch marks a defining moment for our nation and for all who believe in exploration. Artemis II builds on the vision set by President Donald J. Trump, returning humanity to the Moon for the first time in more than 50 years and opening the next chapter of lunar exploration beyond Apollo."

Liftoff! NASA Launches Astronauts on Historic Artemis Moon Mission - NASA

Spurred by American ingenuity, astronauts on NASA’s Artemis II mission are in flight, preparing for the first crewed lunar flyby in more than 50 years.

www.nasa.gov

That's straight from the horse's mouth, folks.

Wrong.

Originally legislated by the NASA Authorization Act of 2005, as the retirement of the Space Shuttle drew near, the Constellation program included the development of the Ares I and Ares V rockets along with the Orion spacecraft.

In May 2009, U.S. president Barack Obama established the Augustine Committee to take into account several objectives including support for the International Space Station, development of missions beyond low Earth orbit (including the Moon, Mars, and near-Earth objects), and use of the commercial space industry within defined budget limits.

The committee concluded that the Constellation program was massively underfunded and that a 2020 Moon landing was impossible. Constellation was subsequently put on hold.

On April 15, 2010, President Obama spoke at the Kennedy Space Center, announcing the administration's plans for NASA and cancelling the non-Orion elements of Constellation, saying that the program was not viable.

He instead proposed US$6 billion in additional funding and called for the development of a new heavy-lift rocket program to be ready for construction by 2015 with crewed missions to Mars orbit by the mid-2030s.

On October 11, 2010, President Obama signed into law the NASA Authorization Act of 2010, which included requirements for the immediate development of the SLS rocket and the Orion spacecraft to support missions beyond low Earth orbit starting in 2016, while making use of the workforce, assets, and capabilities of the Space Shuttle program, Constellation program, and other NASA programs. The law also invested in space technologies and robotics capabilities tied to the overall space exploration framework, ensured continued support for Commercial Orbital Transportation Services, Commercial Resupply Services, and expanded the Commercial Crew Development program.

On June 30, 2017, President Donald Trump signed an executive order to re-establish the National Space Council, chaired by Vice President Mike Pence.

The administration's first budget request kept Obama-era human spaceflight programs in place:

Commercial Resupply Services, Commercial Crew Development, the Space Launch System, and the Orion spacecraft for deep space missions, while reducing Earth science research and calling for the elimination of NASA's education office.

Artemis program - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[BackAgain]

Support Space Flight. The Budget refocuses the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) funding on beating China back to the Moon and on putting the first human on Mars. By allocating over $7 billion for lunar exploration and introducing $1 billion in new investments for Mars-focused programs, it ensures that America’s human space exploration efforts remain unparalleled, innovative, and efficient. To achieve these objectives, the Budget would streamline the NASA workforce, IT services, NASA Center operations, facility maintenance, and construction and environmental compliance activities. The Budget also eliminates “green aviation” and other climate scam programs as well as failing space propulsion projects.

The White House Office of Management and Budget Releases the President’s Fiscal Year 2026 Skinny Budget

Washington, D.C.--Today, the Office of Management and Budget (OMB) sent President Trump’s topline discretionary Budget request for fiscal year 2026 to the

www.whitehouse.gov

I believe that this policy based set of reasons is real.

Trump appointed RFK Jr to the head of the Department of Health and Human Services secretary? RFK, who is an anti-vaxxer.

It is not “anti science” to oppose some vaccinations, especially ones coerced by the government.

Trump, right after he won the 2016 election appointed Scott Pruitt, a guy with fossil fuel ties, to the head of the EPA?

So what? Our President is a skeptic about “AGW.” That doesn’t qualify as anti-science.

"The concept of global warming was created by and for the Chinese in order to make U.S. manufacturing non-competitive.!"
Do you want to guess what genius said that?

So? There is a great deal of support for the

Trump has also described anthropogenic climate change as 'one of the greatest con jobs ever'. He also said: "Brutal and Extended Cold Blast could shatter ALL RECORDS – Whatever happened to Global Warming?"

That may demonstrate a little ignorance to a degree. But that’s not “anti science,” either.

"Healthy young child goes to doctor, gets pumped with massive shot of many vaccines, doesn't feel good and changes — AUTISM. Many such cases!" - Donald Trump

I personally don’t ascribe “autism” to vaccines. But there is a legitimate question about some preservatives used in those shots.

There are a lot more things I can bring up. Just look at some of the comments on this forum regarding science.

None of which make MAGA “anti-science.”

It is clear that Turmp is attempting to gut NASA funding. He tried to do it in 2025, and he's trying again in 2026. It's like a 24% cut or something that Trump is going for. That's gutting funding. Sure, a partnership might help NASA, but it helps in a very narrow function, and I don't think it's justfies gutting an already underfunded agency. Also, doesn't it raise some flags that SpaceX, Trump's buddy, will be benefitting while NASA is cut?

You have your opinion. I don’t see it as reasonable or as factually supported.

NASA has such a great benefit in that it is not profit oriented. And I don't think NASA is something you can argue is overly inefficient. It has high respect and high quality work. It works towards things that can take a decade of work before it has any return.

I am thrilled with NASA, overall. I am not, however, on that basis willing to say that it is or should be impervious to proper Administration which includes a review of its budget.

 

[BackAgain]

See BackAgain

Why?

 

[Winco]

That is certainly one benefit. I’m not sure it’s the biggest one.

I suspect that this is not the right thread to offer a laundry list of the benefits of our Space Program — but that might prove to be an illuminating stand-alone thread.

I have vaccinated all my life

As a Concerned American Myself, I need to know what BackAgain and Concerned American think about the 1969 so-called Moon Landing.

Real or Fake?

BackAgain ?
Concerned American ?

I predict that both of these CUCKS will refuse to state, right NOW, their true beliefs about the Moon Landing.

Did we land on the moon or is it a hoax?

 

[RedrickTheCoat]

I am thrilled with NASA, overall. I am not, however, on that basis willing to say that it is or should be impervious to proper Administration which includes a review of its budget.

But your Ok with the 1.5 Trillion dollar military budget? Up from what? 800 billion or so?

The White House Office of Management and Budget Releases the President’s Fiscal Year 2026 Skinny Budget

Washington, D.C.--Today, the Office of Management and Budget (OMB) sent President Trump’s topline discretionary Budget request for fiscal year 2026 to the

www.whitehouse.gov

This is a fantastic link and shows just what a sellout you are. Remember how Trump raised the deficit? By a lot? But he is cutting all these things? So why is the deficit rising do you think? Why do you think that is?

So what? Our President is a skeptic about “AGW.” That doesn’t qualify as anti-science.

Oh yea, the President is just a skeptic? From your own link, they say the following:
"The Budget also eliminates “green aviation” and other climate scam programs as well as failing space propulsion projects."

It also says:
"guts a weaponized deep state while providing historic increases for defense and border security."

It guts a weaponized deep state? WTF does that even mean? God, they are treating you like idiots. They can just say anything, and you'll believe it.

"Defund the Harmful Woke, Marxist Agenda. Every single agency across the Federal Government was engaged in funding and advancing DEI and other radical, harmful ideologies such as: $315 million for grant programs to push “intersectionality,” “racial equity,” and LGBTQIA+ programming for preschoolers; housing grants that funded activities such as an “Equity Audit” to reverse “land use patterns that have roots in systemically racist policies in L.A. County; and “addressing White Supremacy in the STEM profession.” The Budget ends all of that."

"This is the lowest non-defense spending level since 2017."
- notice how they say non-defense?
This is the United States of America White House claiming that there are climate scam programs? Clown shit. How is being so anti man-made climate change not qualifying as anti-science? When world wide science is clear that it isn't a scam? The white house is actually releasing statements that it's a scam? And you think this administration doesn't qualify as anti-science? Why is the White House speaking on matters in this way? And you want me to believe that they don't qualify as anti-science? Are you serious?

You know, do you not think it would be fair if California, instead of paying back the federal government 2+ billion per year more than it receives, that it just keeps that 2+ billion for itself? Becuase that feels like something that would fair, no? For how much the right complains about California, don't you think that would be fair?

You have your opinion. I don’t see it as reasonable or as factually supported.

You don't see it factually supported that cutting 24% of the budget is gutting it? Or you don't think that is actually happening?

I am thrilled with NASA, overall. I am not, however, on that basis willing to say that it is or should be impervious to proper Administration which includes a review of its budget.

And you trust that this adminsitration is doing just that? Cutting an already underfunded agency in NASA by 24% is just proper administration?

None of which make MAGA “anti-science.”

Let me confirm this before I go further. Are you really trying to stand on the fact that MAGA isn't anti-science? Is that what you are saying here? Do you really want to stand on that? God damn, you MAGA continue to surprise me.